What if the USSR Never Existed
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What if the Bolshevik Revolution failed and the Soviet Union Never existed?
This video is an alternate timeline where the Tsar continues to rule Russia instead of the USSR
Thanks to @Chiefofficerhenrywilde6556 for the idea
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Music
Hearts of Iron II - Achtung, Panzer!
Hearts of Iron III - Well Oiled War Machine
Hearts of Iron III - They Are Bombing Us
Hearts Of Iron III - Epicbattle
Hearts of Iron II - Rise and Fall of Evil
Speech
Lenin Speech
Kaiser Wilhelm II.'s speech about WWI
HITLER ADDRESSES STEEL HELMENTS AT HELHEIM - SOUND
Polands Final message 1939
FDR and Policing the World Hitler's Threat
Winston S Churchill We Shall Fight on the Beaches
mussolini-vincere e vinceremo
Hitler Speech at Siemens Factory I was one of you
Stalin Speaks on Red Square (1941)
Goebbels - Do you want Total War TOTALEN KRIEG
Winston Churchill announces victory (1945)
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Rare images of italian mapper not making a video about ww2:
@Ajochi
4 ай бұрын
Yeah there's a wW2
@shorenadarcmelidze7199
4 ай бұрын
Ahh wild nature
@gabrielbernardes9290
4 ай бұрын
Too soon
@andreascarabelli826
4 ай бұрын
Bruh, he made 3/4 of the video about ww2 💀💀💀 he tricked us
@Galacticuser
2 ай бұрын
He also not talking about cold war and modern world ☠️
Petition for Italian Mapper to do WW1 Fuhrerreich 👇
Damn, these videos are the best for my friends and i to watch! Keep making these videos mn ❤
I’ll just have to assume February was cut out, given it was already the Russian Republic by the time of Lenins revolution
@Bolitadewien
Ай бұрын
Iba a comentar eso
Small Error: The Treaty of London which made Italy join the war was known only by Italy, Russia, France and the UK, with no Russian Revolution, the Treaty of London would have remained a secret and so, the USA would not have opposed the Italian claim to all of Dalmatia.
If anything the Russians would likely be stronger by the time WW2 came around than the Soviet Union was, especially given the show trial purges. This would've seen them likely do better against blitzkrieg, potentially stopping the German advance roughly aroudn about Minsk and along the river in Latvia, and stopping them at the Dnipro, also they'd do much better against Finland without the purges
@Hamstorian
4 ай бұрын
Without the soviets, the Russians wouldn't have Industrialized Fast enough to stop the germans.
@bwmasterr
4 ай бұрын
bro forgot about 30 million mobilized soldiers
@FodaseNaoLigo
3 ай бұрын
Russian empire would mobilize even more given that many died in the civil war@@bwmasterr
@CJFashi
2 ай бұрын
Do you forget that stalin was solely responsible for the industrialization of russia? It most likely would have been worse off without socialism.
@under6075
2 ай бұрын
what about industrialization? stopping the German advance around minsk the latvia river and dnipro might require the russians to be industrialized enough
Автор даже не старался. Просто сделал историю ПМВ и ВМВ, только зачеркнул СССР и написал Российскую империю.
@user-bz5yg8tr1h
2 ай бұрын
А смысл? Мобилизовать треть населения может каждый, не только вождь народов божий сын Сталин. Так что РИ не как не отличится от СССР
@OmskiV
11 күн бұрын
@@user-bz5yg8tr1hникак не отличается, говоришь? Ну-ну, 95% всего что построено в снг, было построено большевиками, а не самодержавным царьком всея Руси.
@Wanderer48207
10 күн бұрын
Он ещё забыл Российскую Республику 💀💀💀
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6:03 unrealistic, Tsarist russia was industrialising faster than USSR. this is because the USSR killed and imprissoned Russia's most experianced and effective industrialists, and exiled foreign aide. A Tsarist Russia would not only continue to rapidly expand their industry due to both their own internal industrialists and investment from the british, french and americans, like IRL. but it would be even higher than pre-ww1 levels as the Tsarists recignised during the first world war that their industry was not sufficient and one of their goals was to further increase their rate of industrialisation. But ALSO a Tsarist russia in the timeline provided would have war reparations, almost certainly in the form of industrial investment, due to staying in the war and being on the winning side. AND it wouldn't have the damage to repair from civil war that the USSR had. furthermore, it has been calculated that the disarerous soviet policies like collectivisation pushed back their ecconomic development by atleast 24%. even the most conservative estimates for the size of Tsarist industry in the 1940s is still slightly larger than the USSR in the OTL. and that's assuming a reduction of ecconomic development. a maintaining of Tsarist growth leads to about 33-50% more industry in 1940 than the USSR. and using extrapolations based off of similar ecconomies to the Tsarist russia that maintained a market ecconomy we see one potentially double the indsutrialisation of the USSR (depending on how far they go) one of the reasons the germans were eager for war with russia in ww1 was because they wanted to beat them before they overtook the germans ecconomically and industrially. (main source: Ricón, José Luis, “The Soviet Union: From farm to factory. Stalin's Industrial Revolution”, Nintil (2017-02-04)) the other major unrealistic elements: 1) the success of the germans against the ussr at the begining was largely a result of the USSR's forward deployment of their divisions allowing easy large encirclements at the start of the war and the dismanteling of the 'stalin line' as the ussr shifted to a more agressive stance to the germans. If the Tsarists are less industrial then there is noway they would do this shift, ie in your scenario they would still do better. 2) without loss of land to the soviets poland would not gain territory from germany. the allies gave german territory to poland after ww2 as compensation for land lost to the ussr. furthermore the western allies were against forced migration. 2.1) speaking of poland, if they were in a commonwealth treaty with Russia they would not have gotten the polish corridor or atleast Danzig would remain part of germany that was set up to give poland access to the sea via a friendly/free port. since Russia is the friendly port in this timeline that doesn't happen. there is also no way that poland gains eastern Galicia, as russia already annexed that during the war (proclaiming liberation of the Ruthenians of Galicia), there is no way a Russia on the side of the victorious powers would seceed that without a fight, speaking of... 2.2) there is no way the polish win against the russians so quickly or at all. historically the polsih BARELY defeated a soviet invasion. the russian army would be stronger, and the poles would have less time to prepare, and the russians wouldn't be invading but already deployed in their country. You also have the intervension of the league of nations who will be interested in actually keeping the peace since they are not overtly anti-russian (OTL they were anti-soviet) 3) Assuming Russia even breaks up into Ukraine/etc (already unlikely, those only broke away from ussr after the soviet coup in the 90s, they originally voted to stay united with Russia) Crimea would be part of Russia. it was only transfered to Ukraine by the USSR. no USSR means no Ukrainian Crimea. Without USSR it is either independant or part of russia. 4) Russia would have been brought back as a monarchy just like other occupied monarchies. if it changes to a republic later on thats another story. 5) the ww1 peacedeal is just in general unrealistic for a 1919 surrender. 1919 surrender means massive american involvement, meaning more american say in how the peacedeals go down. meaning the 14 points are actually followed. so no sudentenland in Czechsolovakia, Italy doesn't get all of South Tirol, only the italian population bit. no Carpatho Ruthenia in Slovakia (but part of russia), a less harsh treaty for hungary. no prevention of austria and germany uniting. this more conistant peace, and no ussr takes alot of wind out of nazi sails. its likely that germany becomes monarchist or austrio-fascist rather than nazis. they are also unlikely to start ww2 at all. 5.1) ww2 is much more likely to be the result of a french civil war being escalted by italy. the french almost had a civil war in the 1940s and only the threat of germany united them. without an agressive germany, the french fall into civil war, probably while the spainish one is still on going. and the italians intervene. 6) then there is the question of if the tsarist government can even survive staying in ww1.
@jamessparkes4215
18 күн бұрын
Bro I agree with u 100% but no way anyone reading that
@TerraSlimeS
14 күн бұрын
This might be THE Historian.
@OmskiV
11 күн бұрын
Man, if you really think that RE would industrialize faster, than USSR, I have very sad news. Up to the Bolsheviks, Russia was a backward agrarian country, since the tsars did not benefit from any industrialization. That is why the First World War was so devastatingly lost by the Russian side.but I completely agree with your statement that this video has flaws. The Russian Empire after the Second World War would not only have been unable to maintain power, it would have collapsed in a similar way to 1917. because there were no purges of the staff, which removed traitors and ineffective persons from their posts
Just so you know, the only reason the Soviets lost against Finland is beacuse Stalin purged his good generals, while the Tsar wouldn't do that. Just some food for thought...
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
Russia didn't industrilize with the monarchy so the army had a serious disadvantage, and the tsar would possibly get not as professional generals
@FuntimeVictimerFNAF
4 ай бұрын
@@Italian_MapperThe industry of the Russian Empire in the First World War Despite the ordeals during the First World War, the industry of the Russian Empire continued to grow. Compared to 1913, industrial production grew by 21.5%. For example, in the same time period, industrial production in the UK decreased by 11%, and in Germany it decreased as much as 36%.[17] At the same time, the volume of engineering production in Russia increased 4.76 times over these three years, metal processing 3.01 times, the chemical industry 2.52 times[18] Also, in 1915-1917, a large-scale modernization of industry was carried out, and, unlike the pre-war period, most part of the equipment was produced by domestic enterprises. On the eve of the revolution, the country's national income was 16.4 billion rubles (7.4% of the world total). According to this indicator, the Russian Empire ranked fourth after the United States, Germany and the British Empire.[20] According to Orlov, Georgieva, Georgiev the development of industry reached the peak both in quantitative and in qualitative terms towards the end of the existence of the Russian Empire, on the eve of the February Revolution.[citation needed] Subsequent industrialization was carried out in the USSR in the late 1920s using administrative-command methods based on five-year plans under totalitarianism.[21] By Wikipedia. If the RI survived,It would be far stronger than the soviet Union in 1939.
@FuntimeVictimerFNAF
4 ай бұрын
@@Italian_MapperThe February and October Revolutions in 1917 ignited hope in the Grand Duchy of Finland. After the abdication of Tsar Nicholas II on 2 March (15 March N.S.) 1917, the personal union between Russia and Finland lost its legal base - at least according to the view in Helsinki - as he was the Grand Duke of Finland. Negotiations began between the Russian Provisional Government and Finnish authorities. -wikipedia. So yeah,there would not be an winter War on the First place without the abdication of Nich II.
@FuntimeVictimerFNAF
4 ай бұрын
@@Italian_Mapperwrong, Stalin purged even people like tukhachevsky (So skilled that he was known as the Red Napoleon),so even If the Tsar didnt have many skilled generals,It would be better to have them than to have people with no experience. Aside from the fact that there would be no winter War,ofc. Edit: actually, the RI wouldnt have purged people like tukhachevsky,so yeah,still more powerful than the soviets.
@bogdancirovic1217
4 ай бұрын
@@Italian_MapperBtw Russia was industrializing under the monarchy with Tsar Nicholas II. Yes, the process would be slower, but it would be better in the long term as the Tsar wouldn't get rid of the kulaks like the Soviets did. Again, just some food for thought...
That was pretty good 👍
This would happened if nicolas II actually learn how to control the country
You should expand this 👍
6:53 Волгоград при монархии назывался Царицын, а Санкт-Петербург с начала первой мировой Петроград так-как Санкт-Петербург звучал слишком по немецкий
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
The excuse of this being an alternate timeline could justify why they were named that way but you are right
@fun_production228xd
4 ай бұрын
@@Italian_Mapper мне кажется, что в подобных видео события до момента старта, видео должны идти так же, как и в реальности
Finally, Mapper Have a WW1 Video
Good video!
The history would be another if that had happened. Not only in Europe, but in the entire world.
rare non ww2 scenario
Damn bro ur so good ❤
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
Thanks
Unrealistic af but still good
@Hamstorian
4 ай бұрын
What's so Unrealistic About the scenario?
@yovan2530
3 ай бұрын
@@Hamstorianthe german defeats in ww2
@AntonBoymer
2 ай бұрын
@@HamstorianRussia's loss in the war with Poland and the Baltic States and in the winter war. If there had not been a civil war in Russia, then these countries would have had no chance of victory. And also, if the monarchy had been preserved, Russia would have received Constantinople and the lands of Germany and Austria-Hungary under the terms of the Versailles Peace. And the Allied victory over the Third Reich after the defeat of Russia was impossible
Nice video
Nice video! Can you make the pt3 of ww2 struggle on Europe? I've been waiting for months for the next pt.
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
Thanks but struggle of europe is not a series that i still persue since the idea became too chaotic and the views range isn't much high
Can you do a video: What if Austria-Hungary participated in WW2?
6:03 "Russia is not fully industrialized because of the Monarchy, their army is wiped out" I thought similar back at the botched winter war with Finland but if Russia was under-industrialized then how the did the reich manage to do as well as in reality without the secret military cooperation with the USSR?
7:31 RIP Nicolas II, cause of death were *killed by german soldier* 🫡
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
possible
@subforpopcorn4695
4 ай бұрын
Ohhhhh he died in 1917
@Hamstorian
4 ай бұрын
@@Italian_Mapper It could me More Likely he Died of old Age in the city of Perm.
@under6075
2 ай бұрын
@@Hamstorian how old would he have been by the time of the 1940's because old age seems far more likely
@Hamstorian
2 ай бұрын
@@under6075 Exactly.
1:45 We shall never forget the dreadful asd event.
Great video bro. Could you do a modern day scenario USA vs the world with US victory? I feel like that’d be fun to watch. Appreciate your work
Do a video of WW1:Red Flood (Every days)
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
Red Flood is too chaotic and i just quit making those scenarios 😿
I want to watch this video already pls release it
what if free territory won and russia fell into anarchy
@DreerKarler
Ай бұрын
how could the free territory win?
@DreerKarler
Күн бұрын
maype just suddenly uprising
What if Italy didn't join Russia, France and Great Britain and stayed in the Central Powers
@user-bn8du3eg2k
4 ай бұрын
France allying with Germany makes no sense
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
they still lose italy is weak
@skyguyxninja5650
4 ай бұрын
how do you know @@Italian_Mapper
@GuiM2
4 ай бұрын
@@Italian_MapperI think this would help the Central Powers positionally, since Austria-Hungary wouldn't need to send thousands of soldiers to the Italian front, and could help more on the western front, adding 100k soldiers to a front changes a lot
@skyguyxninja5650
4 ай бұрын
Yes, probably France was not able to hold the line@@GuiM2
Probably best timeline. No 30,000,000 dead at the hands of the communists. Great quality and work! Amazing!
@knn310
4 ай бұрын
And no cold war (I think) no Chechen war no catastrophic 1990s and no Ukrainian war no Korean war no communist china.Russia is probably more liberal no Stalin purge no deportation no holodomor
@spartacus936
3 ай бұрын
Do you realize that Hitler won the Second World War in this timeline, right?
@user-ep5cd2hc9j
3 ай бұрын
@@spartacus936 and? They were never remotely bad as the communist genocidal regime. The Germans were liberators, and you are clearly not educated when you say that "Hitler" and not A nation won. When that happens I know you're brainwashed
@spartacus936
3 ай бұрын
@@user-ep5cd2hc9jLol, you said that the Germans were liberators, and I'm the brainwashed one? Sure bro, as you say I guess.
@joekaputt4415
3 ай бұрын
@@user-ep5cd2hc9j Germans wanted to genocide slavs and jews but soviets also accidentally genocided slavs and jews
Here before the premire
Can you make about WW3 between Germany and puppets on europe and africa vs Japan and its allies (maybe Pacific Country) if Axis Won WW2?
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
Maybe
@ledieudesdieux4353
4 ай бұрын
@@Italian_Mapper With two scenarios ?
Where you did animation?
@Italian_Mapper
28 күн бұрын
paint .net
So fun to watch
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
Thanks
Ah, yes Asd the best description...
I think Russia being non-communist would probably influence all of europe. A lot of national socialist ideology in Germany was focused around The struggle against the slavic hordes and especially communism. A lot of the ideology came from White émigrés from the russian civil war, especially Baltic Germans, spreading their ideas of the communists. Now they wouldnt flee, since the communists didnt win. It would probably be a significant change. Since now Germany wouldnt have a politcaly polar oppoisite enemy (the USSR) its ideology would change. A lot of Hitler's cabinet, especially before coming to power, were monarchists and nationalists.
Where is kerensky 💀
How about cold war scenario?
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
Maybe
@Hamstorian
4 ай бұрын
@@Italian_Mapper Man! do it! that be great!!
"wanna break from the ww2 videos?" Get your Italian membership now!
I would feel that by 1940, Nicholas would be dead as he would be over 70 years old. Alexei would have taken his place by then as tsar
Why is there two permire vids
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
yes
L ending
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
Bro why 😿
@Dwight.DEisenHower
4 ай бұрын
Wehraboo
@skyguyxninja5650
4 ай бұрын
because its weird@@Italian_Mapper
@skyguyxninja5650
4 ай бұрын
And when Germany conquered all of the Caucasus and the land before the Volga river, Russia should really have surrended at this point. And we all should know Russia would have not been so strong as the UdSSR
Fps?
What? How realistic they countered the revolution this easily? Just asking Of course I read the name of the video, but... how?
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
Well I cam't say in details but as the Tsar its still in charge it means the february revolution didnt happen meaning that hw was able to satisfy the people allowing the mass to not rebel
@miguelhs6045
4 ай бұрын
@@Italian_Mapper well... this is plausible, so nice imagination ;)
not the German add that sponsors War Thunder Showing a Panzer 2A5 Main Battle Tank😭😭😭💀💀💀
@Italian_Mapper Romania was promissed after ww1 bessarabia and Bukowina
@Italian_Mapper
Күн бұрын
not bessarabia only transylvania and bukovina
Why is The Führer's Portrait blurred?
@Italian_Mapper
3 ай бұрын
to avoid further complications with youtube policies
@DavidHoaglandOfficial
2 ай бұрын
@@Italian_Mapper I wonder why youtube has these policies...
@Speed249
2 ай бұрын
@@DavidHoaglandOfficial Because they are trying to censor and erase history, you know so that the little ones never know about this.
@francisesquilon4712
2 ай бұрын
Remember history shall not be censored its a sign of direspect of the historical leaders
@Posidon09
Ай бұрын
@Italian_Mapper, it's stupid by KZread to censor history. I get it if it's gory, but just a picture of a man being blurred is unnecessary, not like it's your fault, but it's KZread
Inaccurate as hell
Т.к это был уже не срветский союз , то он не мог так же колопсироваться , во 1 у россий федариции бы не было такой системы как республик , что государство состояло бы союз нескольких других , по этому белорусь и украина вообще не как не могли бы отсоедениться без вооруженного востания , что мало вероятно, тк тут бы не развивалась эдэнтичнойсть отдельных народов как в ссср , где напримую они назывались белорось и ураина. И так же причиной колапса экономики СССР был сильный военный бюджет , что при демократичной России было бы мало вероятно, т.к не было бы холодно войны и правешему верху это было сложне.А тут даже холодной войны не может быть и речь , т.к России не контролирует даже близко таких теритой варшавского договора , что не говорить о поддержке режимов коммунистов по всему миру.Так же маловероятен был бы приход Путина и Ельцина к власти без колапса
So... just like real world then?
7:21 asd?
where did comrade Nicholas go after 1942?
@Italian_Mapper
8 күн бұрын
deposed
Wow this is actually the stop of ww2 drug addiction great😊😊😊😊😊😊 (But everyone not knowing that this is a start of a new addiction)
No offense, but the Baltics would remain Russian and Poland is given semi-autonomy, Russia will gain Galicia from Austria-Hungary and incorporate it into the Semi-Autonomous Poland, and Germany loses all of East Prussia to Russia basically destroying any hopes of German revenge
Why Finland didnt joined operation Barbarrosa as OTL if russian finnis war, more if Finland won ?
Can you do what if ww3 happend in the 60s showing Soviet victory and USA victory showing casualties an China getting involved
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
too much
@hasibrazak5484
4 ай бұрын
Even if I still don,t like the wwii addiction even this is to much
@Romanball5677
4 ай бұрын
@@Italian_Mapper come on bro you always doing ww2. Can you do something else
Why did the tsar not change
Czechoslovakia 😔
You have NO RIZZ, you pull ZERO maidens, your Jordan are FAKE, and the cool guy sticker isn't even that COOL. (edit) Btw this is pure irony I do NOT watch skibidi toilet or something
@thegermanicunionmapping
4 ай бұрын
😭
@randommappr
4 ай бұрын
💀
@VinoProduction192
4 ай бұрын
What💀
@RAIBISHU
4 ай бұрын
💀
@BritishEditor1922
4 ай бұрын
I’m worried for the next generation
What if the world was extremely based:
румыния врядли бы напал на РИ
ммм, речь Сталина на 6:33 У нас же нету тут СССР
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
Its cool
Sorry for my english Video is cool but very unrealistic Bolshevik revolution is impossible without February revolution, because their popularity began to grown only after mistakes of the provisional government. If February revolution didn't happen, then Russian army discipline isn't falling. Russian Empire planned major offensive in 1917. I think in that scenario, Great war would have ended in autumn 1917 - summer 1918. Also polish and romanian army couldnt resist russian army Loser of World War II Russia is really fuuny, because Russian economy and army potential without Civil War is mooooore beter than Soviet
@FuntimeVictimerFNAF
4 ай бұрын
And another unrealistic part is independent Finland, since they were in a personal union with Russia.
Despite if the russian empire collapsed or not,poland always gets divided in 1939
Пусть и так, за то будем жить нормально, без "величия"
7:51 EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
So, which country will be enemy’s usa in cold war
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
Maybe russia would still be hostile or some other organziation but hard to say
Damnn thats one of the best timelines ever
Kaiserreich vibes
Plz do a Tutorial on mobile tho plz
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
I dont use mobile
@Palestineball_edits
4 ай бұрын
Oh ok
1 germany not can win russian empire 2 if germany win allies too not can win.
The Russian Empire becomes the Russian Republic in 15 March 1917
“Germany is starting to lose steam everyone front” remove the freaking “is”
ok ending
I don’t think that Vladimir Putin would be born in this reality.
*There is no russian empire after feb 1917 Revolution. Where is Russian Republic? :'D*
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
*if i started the video in february everyone would quit so have it that way*
can we see a alternate ending in this please the ending we have it's suck the video is super good man but ending suck and axis still lose ww2 and why didn't allied power just make peace with germany or something
@karelangeovillafuerte9828
4 ай бұрын
@@Mapping_brasil6281 what ?
@Dwight.DEisenHower
4 ай бұрын
because the germans wouldn't stand a chance against combined allied bombardement and the hegemon that is the US industry
@gabrieleitor280
4 ай бұрын
People will never accept and even if it, almost no one has the mind to imagine an Axis victory they are just too much brainwashed with Usa culture, Etc, Its something really basic even the French said its 100% impossible that Germany wins against them, then with Ussr and then even that they would not handle 2 fronts at once, Axis did won against France, Almost destroyed Ussr's armies in a few months and handled various fronts for at least half year or even more, so.. If you still ask why din't allies do peace beacuse people only likes allies to win and even if so they don't know what axis plans were at all
@ivruge
4 ай бұрын
Hello, the beta version of the Toronto accord@@Mapping_brasil6281
@Cheesburger1009
4 ай бұрын
Even in OTL (Original timeline) the allies will not make peace with Germany at any cause.
What if USA stayed neutral in ww1
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
why would they
@yeegi123
4 ай бұрын
@@Italian_Mapper why should communists be calm in your video?
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
@@yeegi123 the tsar doesnt make the mistakes they did irl and the civil population doesnt rebel in mass
This is just ww2 axis victory with russia different name
You do realize that Finland declared independence because the Tsar was no longer in charge, right? 💀 u just did the same events as ww2 except use the Russian Empire
Да да,Россия выстояла на 2 фронта в первой мировой, но проиграла каким-то бомжам с палками под руководством Пилсудского.
In This Alternative Universe the October Revolution Was Failed Russian Empire Continues make way To Germany USA Enters Ww1 German Empire Has Fallen Ending Ww1
Бро, в октябре 1917 Николай 2 не был у власти. Монархия пала уже в феврале. Ну и странно вообще, что Россия проиграла Польше, Румынии и не смогла подавить восстание в Прибалтике, хотя до этого одолела Германию, несравненно более сильную. Еще в стране при отсутствии гражданской войны не было бы таких человеческих потерь, а также не был бы разорен экономический потенциал. В 1930 не было бы такой жесткой коллективизации и индустриализации, а наоборот: все прошло бы довольно гладко. Соответственно, не следовало бы ожидать и репрессий против офицерства, то есть к войне Россия была бы куда лучше подготовлена как в плане экономики, так и в плане армии. И поражение в Великой Отечественной в таком случае представляется очень нереалистичным. Да, командная экономика и советский тоталитарный режим, без сомнения, поспособствовали победе в войне, но делать эту роль решающей странно, при учете уже перечисленных плюсов.
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i hate This timeline Cuz Russia Doesnt Do Steiner 2
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Romanian troops will always into Budapest
@PyzhRav_SGP
13 күн бұрын
Even today this phrase holds true, given Orbán's scarf
Ah, yes M i n k
frogot Alexei
it is not that accrute the germans would have won with 2 million men bc the russian empire is weak by the year 1941 so the germans aregoting to defeat the allies
What if spanish empire never collapsed?
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
idk dawg
So inaccurate
Ha putin didn't do anything as russian empire
Why putin is leader in that world
bye comunism rsuai???? Win war orope uno.
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Глупое видео откровенно говоря.
@Italian_Mapper
4 ай бұрын
Explain yourself i want to understand your point
@cak76spiral50
4 ай бұрын
@@Italian_Mapper Понимаете все дело,в том что если бы царский самодержавный строй устоял,то Россия победила бы в первой мировой войне сохранившись,в +-тех же границах каковых она была до самой войны. Гитлер навряд ли пришел бы ко власти.
Это одно из самых кринжовых что я видел