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@marshalmarrs3269

Жыл бұрын

What if eastern hunter gatherers never existed?

@JTL1776

Жыл бұрын

@Marshal Marrs better idea what if a mega sunami hit china's Yangtze River Valley during the beginning of agriculture.

@concept5631

Жыл бұрын

What if Bukharin took control of the USSR instead of Stalin?

@santiagoalcantara3806

Жыл бұрын

Star wars program was a disaster. It was a fantasy dream that technology of the time can't reach. Regan was a mediocre politician, he don't make the URSS fall, the URSS fall by it self because of economic and political stagnation during the Brezhnev era. In fact Regan star the deindustrialization with the industry export to China.

@JmKrokY

Жыл бұрын

Always bro 👍🏼

In many ways, this alternative Soviet Union is a lot more like the United States of America. A winner of the Cold War who had a difficult time maintaining it's hegemonic status from all kinds of issues

@Killertiller01

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's never easy being on top.

@user-Erimej

Жыл бұрын

@@Killertiller01 especially against rising new powers

@yungyahweh

Жыл бұрын

@@user-Erimej they probably would do better that the current US against Russia and China

@jonathanjuarez5544

Жыл бұрын

In other words, regardless of ideology as long as there's a lust to be the most powerful conflict will always follow.

@user-Erimej

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathanjuarez5544 and with great power comes great responsibility

The amount of detail put into it is beyond impressive

@TheRealBillBob

Жыл бұрын

facts

@JmKrokY

Жыл бұрын

Yeah

@YaBoiBaxter2024

Жыл бұрын

Indeed

@yj4003

Жыл бұрын

Q

@Tattletale97

9 ай бұрын

That was kinda the point of this video.

A Pro-Soviet take from someone that lived in the USSR leading up to WWII is even more captivating. Read Anna Louise Strong’s “The Soviets Expected It”. She experienced a much different USSR than we understand in the US. She actually worked with Stalin and has another perspective.

@realsouljaboy3927

Жыл бұрын

That book is very good I do recommend it aswell.

@me67galaxylife

Жыл бұрын

Captivating as in how delusional it is ?

@Derf1OO

Жыл бұрын

@@me67galaxylife Could you elaborate?

@me67galaxylife

Жыл бұрын

@@Derf1OO do i really need to elaborate on how a pro soviet take is bad ? even more so coming from one that worked with stalin ? really ? EDIT : i did elaborate for you lobotomized tankies that somehow need it right below in my other comments. stop pretending not to see it.

@G0TIMAN

Жыл бұрын

@@me67galaxylife great argument dude XD

So, basically, "What if everything went in favor of the Soviets"

@concept5631

Жыл бұрын

"What if the Soviets rolled 20 every single time"

@deathlord2083

Жыл бұрын

@@concept5631 yes😂

@user-qi6pv9jh7o

Жыл бұрын

Kinda, things happen because they have a reason to happen

@user-qi6pv9jh7o

Жыл бұрын

And in determined world, history just doesn't become alternative

@user-qi6pv9jh7o

Жыл бұрын

@@50Steaks68 who is devs? What flaws?

I doubt the US would keep pressing decolonization in a world where they're on par with the Soviets, knowing each independent state could easily fall under Soviet influence(as many did in our timeline) and swing the balance the wrong way. There was little chance for this in our timeline due to the dilapidated state of the Soviet economy(and a non-existent Chinese): the US could easily outbid any offer the Soviets made or use brute force if necessary and the half broken empires of Europe would pose no real threat to the USA. It would be far mor important to keep them allied and use their colonies as bases of operation, than force them to give up their colonies.

@mcjon5477

Жыл бұрын

Based

@dechlancarr5775

Жыл бұрын

​@@mcjon5477 difference between a cup of coffee and your opinion is I asked for coffee

@mcjon5477

Жыл бұрын

@@dechlancarr5775 bruh was I talking to you?

@Prororo

Жыл бұрын

The soviets had no problem until Gorbachev messed up

@boxcarz

Жыл бұрын

@@dechlancarr5775 Oh, fuck off. People aren't allowed to be correct anymore?

I think this is a really good scenario, but there is one major problem. Abolishing the SSRs would actually massively increase instability and probably cause multiple secessionist wars. Part of what made the soviet union so appealing to many of the people's of the country was that it ended the russian chauvinistic policies of the russian empire. Kazakhs had their own Kazakhstan, rather than just a few extra oblasts of Russia. Of course, how much the ussr actually adhered to this brotherhood of nationalities varied in practice depending on the time, but the fact is this system was key in winning over the non russian population.

@Username-je7of

7 ай бұрын

I was going to point that out. Imagine if Yugoslavia declared itself to be the "Croatian Republic", there'd likely be some tension. Although that comparison may have been a bit unfair, considering the differences in population. I thought PH was going to lead to the creation of practically autonomous or actually free regions in Central Asia, the Caucus, and the Baltics, + Ukraine. Although this is a great scenario and good food for thought otherwise!

@piyo744

5 ай бұрын

It's also weird that Stalin would do this, because Stalin was influential in making the USSR the... well, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. His treatise called "Marxism and the National Question" was very influential in Bolshevik thought. He was given the profile of the People's Commissar for Nationalities for this reason.

@cheetosjumboenjoyer6833

3 ай бұрын

I agree. The best option would be to keep the republics in name, but remove much of their powers to, as pointed out in the video, reduce infighting and corruption.

@ChrisKunix

3 ай бұрын

@@cheetosjumboenjoyer6833 It is said in the original uncut version of the scenario that's in a link. Stalin's "autonomisation plan" is implement that the other Soviet republics would remain as autonomous units but Lenin was against this obviously as he saw it as inviting back Great Russian chauvinism and I doubt after the USSR was just made in the span of a few years that they would really want to do this, regardless of if Stalin got into power earlier. But to be honest, I still like a centralized state would've been better in certain respects.

What I really love about this scenario is just how many things have to go right for the Soviets for them to win the cold war

@notme8232

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I felt like he was making a lot of heavyhanded changes, many of which would probably have happened anyway because of a butterfly effect.

@ivanserov1846

Жыл бұрын

Well, as an author of the scenario, I will say A single change over the period of internal and external struggle of superpowers of 40 years wouldn't be enough, even with the wildest possible chain reaction, would not be enough to radically change the geopolitical course. A single change wouldn't be enough to make the superpower which experienced nothing but prosperity for 100 years collapse.

@concept5631

Жыл бұрын

The US outclasses the USSR to such a great extent that the Soviets outright winning the Cold War like the US did is almost impossible.

@marysartr

Жыл бұрын

@@concept5631 no, that's not it, it's because the only real way to change geopolitics its drastically is to change a lot of things and not only one

@YaBoiBaxter2024

Жыл бұрын

​@@ivanserov1846 Eyyyyyyyyy :D

Although they tend to be quite extreme and somewhat implausible scenarios compared to a lot of other alt history channels, your videos are really enjoyable! Keep it up!

@againsttheriver3657

Жыл бұрын

This is actually reaserched and detailed scenario instead of most of alt hist yourubers going "muh, evil USSR bad, no way they win"

@saccorhytus

Жыл бұрын

Tbh this is probably a very realistic take

@againsttheriver3657

Жыл бұрын

@@saccorhytus kinda

@againsttheriver3657

Жыл бұрын

@@saccorhytus it is more of a reality projection, which shows lack of deeper knowledge

@tableswithoutchairs1168

9 ай бұрын

@@againsttheriver3657the guy said that this was like, a third of what was in the original document. There probably was deeper understanding but the video would have been too long if he included everything

The scenario is pretty good, but the idea of turning the entire USSR into RSFSR is a bit dumb. Stalin barely had to deal with national movements and taking away the (perceived, as there was barely any) autonomy would heavily hit the image of the USSR that he was trying to build. Moreover, the national republics inside of the USSR gave the country more representatives on the international stage, while still being controlled from Moscow. Respect for mentioning OGAS though

@possiblehistory

Жыл бұрын

Fully understand where you are coming from, but Stalin did actually plan to do this in our own timeline during Lenin's time, but he lost the internal struggle for centralization/decentralization. Stalin in 1924 going back on this debate would indeed be seen as a shock for the internal power dynamics in the newly established USSR, but if our timeline's Stalin came to power earlier this would actually have happened. Adding to this the national republics were only useful on the world stage starting with the UN post-WW2, so wouldn't impact his Stalin's decision making in the 1920s.

@AYANAMlREl

Жыл бұрын

@@possiblehistory stalin was a leninist and lenin believed in national self determination thus gave republics or autonomy to every minorty, stalin continued that, he wasn't even russian why would he want to unite every country under one republic

@Chikanuk

Жыл бұрын

@@AYANAMlREl Stalin was a "russian" in a way, in russian its translate in a 2 ways. Stalin was all about centralisation and "imperial glory", he was stricktly oppose any separatism in USSR, but in our timeline cannot abolish core movements. So yeah, PH idea in this video was very historical.

@AYANAMlREl

Жыл бұрын

@@Chikanuk okay now prove all of this shit that you made up. stalin was a leninist thus making him a believer of self determination and didn't abolish the republics that are created by lenin even though he could easily do that according to your perception of stalin's power.

@saccorhytus

Жыл бұрын

@@AYANAMlREl I guess he could create a new ethnicity/republic. Probably just make everyone a Soviet rather than a Russian

This is basically "What if Stalin was actually good?" Lol

@Servus_Severin

Жыл бұрын

True

@dontforgettonerfthepig3322

Жыл бұрын

Thing is, he was good

@germanballmapping1962

Жыл бұрын

@@dontforgettonerfthepig3322 ...

@Testingthisname

Жыл бұрын

@@dontforgettonerfthepig3322 30 IQ take

@KozelPraiseGOELRO

Жыл бұрын

He was autoritarian in the name of progress, it is harder to differenciate where the good part ends and the bad part starts. Maybe if he could live longer, he could get his redemption, hard times in the early Soviet Union gave no much option but terror as power. But at least we could have a kind of democracy we don't know today, as time passes and some descontent with the regime would be born in autoritarian states. I don't think it could be much worse than US interventions.

I’m not typically a big fan of “great man” history but I’m curious on your take of a scenario if J. Edgar Hoover were to die or be taken down in the 30s. The guy was crucial for the anti worker and anti civil rights efforts of the FBI. Be interesting to see the American labor movement staying strong post 1970s

@southernlegends8594

Жыл бұрын

He also may have had a hand in Kennedy being shot

@robertortiz-wilson1588

8 ай бұрын

He also took down Fascist cells and spies, KKK cells, armed militias, The Black Panthers, Black Supremacist/Separatists, Communist spies, Communist Party sympathizers, fought the Weather Underground, etc. Not a savory figure by any means, but I would definitely argue one that was necessary when it came to most of the people he was going after or simply monitoring.

@amk4956

8 ай бұрын

@@robertortiz-wilson1588 going after civil rights leaders, like telling MLK to kill himself, as well as the FBI likely the main player in the death of Fred Hampton, MLK, Malcom X and probably JFK was only possible under Hoovers fbi. The black panthers were peaceful btw. Not to mention this is supposed to be a free country, why did we purge communist and socialist from society? They were loyal to the republic during WW2

@longfineel2630

5 ай бұрын

​@@robertortiz-wilson1588The black Panthers and the communists were great though? Those WERE the civil rights and workers movements.

@robertortiz-wilson1588

5 ай бұрын

@@longfineel2630 the Black Panthers in the communist were scum of the Earth. Both thought the idealized goal was the USA getting overthrown or subverted into some sort of socialist state. I can support plenty of other civil rights groups and worker organizations (though definitely not always individual members) that don’t involve thuggish black panther separatist gangs and communists.

Truly a glorious achievement of the Potential Proletariat.

@themrfredgold1891

Жыл бұрын

Cool scenario. One question, how many people did ussr lost in ww2?

@ivanserov1846

Жыл бұрын

@@themrfredgold1891 OTL: 14 million civilians and around 12 million soldiers Pax Sovietica: 4 million civilians and around 5 million soldiers

@ivanserov1846

Жыл бұрын

@@themrfredgold1891 But q huge part of the losses came in Poland, whose population, especially a large portion of the jews were exterminated

@Sammyfarel

Жыл бұрын

​@@ivanserov1846 can you make the continuation of pax sovietica if you wanted, i read all the 92 pages for 8 Times because Its addicting maybe a continuation? From economic politics the situation in us an more. But if you wanted

@abvgded933

Жыл бұрын

@@themrfredgold1891 USSR in WW2 was incompetent in the start of the war, most of the soldiers died as POWs. USSR didn’t know how to fight at summer. And who took berlin?

Not super realistic (there's no way removing Trotsky would prevent the infighting following Lenin's death) but this is a really fun and imaginative scenario.

@ivanserov1846

Жыл бұрын

Well, I didn't said that the infighting are completely prevented, but they are instead much less intense.

@Mayabichi

Жыл бұрын

The collapse of america seems ridiculous to me

@volumist

Жыл бұрын

By the fact with no Trotsky Stalin cannot get in power.

@poopman4263

Жыл бұрын

even then, trotsky was extremely influential due to his many victories in the russian civil war, which granted him high status within the soviet government. Stalin was batshit crazy, nothing would change that. Due to stalin being coocoo for coco puffs, he would still purge a lot of the red army, as essentially anyone who even talked to trotsky was put on trial. And ofc changing who and who doesn’t get assassinated is stepping into the realm of fantasy. But still super interesting scenario, got me thinking abt how my life would be like in this world.

@volumist

Жыл бұрын

@@poopman4263 History L. Generally you can say, that Trotsky was influential, until Stalin rose to power and took majority of the votes in the party, and started anti-trotskist campaign.

Thank you so much for posting weekly I am loving your videos! ❤

This goes against Stalin's own writings and beliefs. It's basically a "what if Stalin wasn't Stalin and wasn't a Leninist?".

Brilliant video bro, Ive been binging your videos recently (although have forgotten to comment on all), but keep up the great work! Cant wait for us to collab like we planned!

One part of this scenario that is unrealistic is the failed assassination of Kennedy. The problems caused by the Vietnam War were caused in a very large part by LBJ's ineffective policies, such as large scale involvement and conscription. If Kennedy lived, he would most likely have had 2 terms and his reforms of the US military would continue. Crucially, they would not draft large numbers for the war and would likely continue their much more successful policies and may even win. In addition, Kennedy was a VERY charismatic man, and would likely motivate America to push forwards in the space race, potentially allowing the US to win (though not necessarily). The prevention of his assassination would be a very large boon for the US, especially if they do not commit large numbers of troops and money to Vietnam. JFK after finishing his terms would likely continue to be a major voice in US politics, likely being a somewhat divisive but altogether stabilizing force in US politics for decades. I think that Kennedy has to be assassinated in this scenario, because in my opinion he is a key figure in history and preventing his assassination strengthens the United States.

@kingdedede333

Жыл бұрын

the cia killed jfk

@jeebusthegreat8819

Жыл бұрын

iirc this scenario has Goldwater winning in '64 and Goldwater absolutely would have done everything LBJ did

@endurovro

Жыл бұрын

Only “one part” is unrealistic? If the Soviet Union won the civil war in that strong of a position, WWII would have been All of Europe vs the USSR with France and Britain not bothering to guarantee Poland just to support Germany against the USSR so Germany can contain the much more imminent communist threat doing the fighting for the West. The reason why the Western powers focused on Germany as a greater threat than the USSR in our timeline is due to how devastating the Civil War was for the USSR and not being able to win against Poland or fully annex Finland. Germany had the ability to threaten Britain and France but the USSR didn't yet, in this timeline they absolutely do.

@boxcarz

Жыл бұрын

@@endurovro True, actually, I hadn't thought of that.

@saccorhytus

Жыл бұрын

Kennedy actually supported the idea of a joint American-Soviet space program I believe

This guy's FBI agent looking at his history. How does the soviet union works How to make communism work How to start a successful communist revolution in Iran How to start a successful Communist revolution in several African nations How to dissolve the US and turn half of it Communist How to spread communism in South America How to elect a Communist into France and the UK How to dissolve nato

@noobymooby-ty8gh

11 күн бұрын

You do know that someone else made this scenario right?

Joe Biden would be kinda sad idk

@Adriaticus

9 ай бұрын

😢

Amazing scenario and content! I’m a writer and I’ve been wanting to branch into alt history for a while and watching your videos I increasing want to do this. Great work as always.

I was thinking of a scenario a while ago where no war no peace didn’t occur. So cool to see it in an actual video

Loving the longer videos as of late :)

This is one of The Best what if Cold wat scenario i have ever seen Comrade Seraph did a great job Bravo👏

Instead of calling it the ''Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic'' It should be called ''Socialist Republic of Eurasia'' That would've been a better name.

@octavianusLeEmperorid6os

2 ай бұрын

Yes but it would be a much more unrealistic name

One of the best written Alternate Histories I've ever seen. Good job, Serov.

What if Rudolf, crown prince of Austria -Hungary didn't commit suicide ? What if Catherine the Great had intervene on the side of the British during the American revolution ? What if Mary I had given birth to A son ? What if Edward V had lived ?

@benjaminbethell8912

Жыл бұрын

I like the Russia helping England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 in the us revolution

@wilhelmbaur

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I think Catherine The Great siding with The 13 colonies Is more realistic. Catherine The Great did NOT like the British and even illegally sent the 13 colonies trade goods during the blockade of Boston. Catherine The Great also increased trade with America over Britian and made It clear to America they favored them over the British. The POD (Point Of Divergence) for this scenario would probably be either Catherine The Great just really wants to get revenge on the British, Russia joins Amerixa when France and Spain join, or Britain goes to war with Russia because they defied Britain.

@alexthedemon2203

Жыл бұрын

@@benjaminbethell8912 so you don't want Americans to have freedom?

@dontforgettonerfthepig3322

Жыл бұрын

@@alexthedemon2203 so you support British separatists?

@redellafestafd1084

Жыл бұрын

LOL no USA = no problems It would have happened if the tsars were actually smart

its kinda shocking how good of a industrialist Stalin was

@POSSIBLE HISTORY. What if america went full manifest destiny. Purchase of Greenland. Purchase and state hood of English carribean and English Belize and English Guyana. Purchase of western Canada. Annexation of northern Canada.

@MrAsianPie

Жыл бұрын

The dream....

@buzter8135

Жыл бұрын

Pax Americana

@JTL1776

Жыл бұрын

@MrAsianPie no the dream is Greenland to Panama. Plus, the islands in Mediterranean and South China sea

@JTL1776

Жыл бұрын

Edit not Annexation of northern canada Not Canada Typo meant mexico.

@attilawilhelmliubei8954

Жыл бұрын

would possibly make the philippine commonwealth a state

Ok. This video single-handely convinced me to subscribe to this channel

This was a really cool scenario! I can really tell the creator put a lot of thought into making it believable but engaging

This the best scenario ever, i wish there was a hoi4 mod about this cause gooodamm Serov possible history you guys out did yourselves.👍

@mappingshaman5280

Жыл бұрын

Look up red world fan fork. Roughly the same scenario as the end of the video is established in that mod.

@kv2games1414

9 ай бұрын

Hoi 4 iron curtain has left the chat

The USSR's victory in World War II alone surpasses all the victories of all countries in history combined. It was unprecedented in scale and unprecedented in the benefits gained. It’s interesting if this is considered on a par with the Russian-Georgian conflict, which lasted 6 days.

@michaelarmstrong5065

6 ай бұрын

Not for eastern europe

"To make the Soviets win, give Stalin more power and make the union explicitly Russian and not a union anymore" I feel like this isn't very realistic, but cool video anyway

@quantisticman8415

10 ай бұрын

Yea,the best way to make the Soviet Union win the cold war is giving Trotsky the power

@americanmapping832

10 ай бұрын

​@@quantisticman8415Trotsky was the idiot that let Germany take soo much land in ww1. The soviet union would not only be weaker under him, but would make stupid decisions

@FerdarPleaseSubscribe

9 ай бұрын

@@americanmapping832 That was just one decision, and the USSR didnt have any other option

@americanmapping832

9 ай бұрын

@@FerdarPleaseSubscribe that one decision cemented him as an idiot who couldn't be allowed to lead. And yes there was another option. Do literally anything but what he did. Preferably, agree to the peace terms.

@FerdarPleaseSubscribe

9 ай бұрын

@@americanmapping832 It was just one bad decision amongst countless genius decisions, after all he led the Bolsheviks to victory in the civil war

Cool video, will defiantly read the full scenario!

Very refreshing to hear an alt history KZreadr be actually knowledgeable about Stalin, especially his later plans for the ussr.

@remington2216

Жыл бұрын

What would you recommend to read to know about stalin?

@volumist

Жыл бұрын

​@@remington2216 I would recommend to find information about how he wanted to relocate supply routes and build forest-lines to prevent drought and famines. Stalin wasn't really a fan of making people suffer from hunger, he was likely to not care about farmers and peasants until the end of the war.

@obsessivefanboy

7 ай бұрын

​@@remington2216"Another View of Stalin" by Ludo Martens and "History and Critique of a Black Legend" by Domenico Losurdo would be good books on Stalin

Don’t threaten me with a good time

This is so detailed man, maybe someone should make this scenario a HOI4 mod

@obrnenydrevokocur9344

9 ай бұрын

it already is, "the red world"

Perfect, one word - PERFECT

Really do love ur work keep it up

This was excellent. Also, a novel set in this world would be interesting. Keep up the great work and Peace. ✌🏻

@yeetyeet5079

11 ай бұрын

Maybe it could take place during the 2nd American civil war from the perspective of a Soviet soldier that is helping the west coast communists

Y'know this channel is pretty underrated, I love your content man!

@Possible History I feel like the fact that there was no territoriale compensation for the east in poland or no agreement between poland and the soviets about the eastern border (which also failed irl), because protests in poland and its independence was one of the main reasons for the fall of the eastern block. I feel like in an alt timeline where the soviets didnt lose that hard against poland the tensions between the states would have been way less. So I could imagine a less paranoid stalin could come to some agreements. Idk this would kinda fit to the theme of the soviets not making the mistakes they made. What are your thoughts on this.

I really like this scenario, mad respect!

Love your videos. The alternative history is so well developed and thought out. The creation of the Russian Federation would have solved a lot of future headaches for the leaders and unite the different peoples without the need to relocate families. Bigger population, bigger workforce. Having no purge might change the dynamics of the Red Army. It would be a large, well led juggernaut. The German attack might be bogged down faster than in our current lifetime, the army being led by competent and capable soldiers.

@pasindupereraSL

Жыл бұрын

Before the purges, it was said that the red army was the largest and one of the most advanced armies in the world due to its experiences in the civil war and reconquests. The german attack would have definitely been bogged down early one. One thing people should realize is how different the cold war would have been if 1. Stalin didn't do the purges and 2. If stalin was more proactive in stopping the german invasion (in our timeline stalin refused to believe the germans would invade at the time.) If those two options the soviets would have experienced a less destructive world war 2 and would have had not have a huge hit to their homeland cities and demographics. That was the main issue during the cold war where the USSR didn't properly invest to rebuild after WW2 and instead spent more on the cold war, while the US only had pearl harbor.

@casualjoe1264

Жыл бұрын

​@@pasindupereraSL Wait, you're saying that killing all of your generals because you had a bad dream ISNT a good idea? Man I gotta rethink life after this

@pasindupereraSL

Жыл бұрын

@@casualjoe1264 I know right? Who would have guessed.

@christianmeyer3622

Жыл бұрын

Only that it's questionable whether Germany had invaded in 1941 under these circumstances. One major reason why Hitler rushed that invasion instead of using these resources against Great Britain and trying to end the war in the West first was the embarassment and self-humiliation Russia inflicted on themselves in the Winter War. If they had looked halfway competent there things might have gone very very different...

@pasindupereraSL

Жыл бұрын

@@christianmeyer3622 True, if those circumstances were there though, it would only mean that the longer germany waits, the more of a threat the soviets would be. Prior to ww2, the soviet population was increasing. I believe it was just about to go into the range of 200 million. The soviets with a combination of a fully developed industry/ economy and a massive population to utilize the endless natural resources would have been unstoppable. Thats why for me personally, I see Russia as potentially the bigger threat to the US hegemony (Of course anything can happen as politics is unpredictable). Because russia has the unlimited resources, if it focused more at home to build its industry and economy like Stalin did, and boost its population, it would be a bigger threat. The thing with China is that, while it has money and people, it doesn't have those vast resources. Especially with the situation of the change in our climates, it will be interesting to see how Russia and China come out of this.

I love how it's all serious and invested and then I hear "funny mustache man happens"

I really enjoyed the video.

Konstantin Semin part made me laugh real good

What a fantastic scenario! So well thought out and justified.

@libertarian_man

11 ай бұрын

Those Soviet had extreme plot armor💀

@noobymooby-ty8gh

3 ай бұрын

​@@libertarian_manthe same can be said for america if you put your logic into OTL.

I think that person (creator of the scenario, not the video itself) also forgot that after annexing Finland soviets now have more frontlines (additional frontline in Finland-Norway border) but, probably, Germany thought that terrible climate and supply issues won't let the soviets to advance to Norway and take really important port of Narvik. Unluckily for germans, the Soviets are attacking and advancing really well, capturing Narvik and disrupting their iron trade with Sweden, what causes a lot of problems for them. After soviets captures all of Norway, Germany must use all of their fleet to support naval superiority on Northern and Baltic seas, if they don't want for soviets landing in Schleswig-Holstein or Denmark. Also Soviets can Try to invade Hokkaido after capturing Karafuto and Kuril islands. As United States are still trying to capture islands like Iwo Jima or Okinawa, soviets are advancing into Japan, probably taking Hokkaido from them and turning them to the puppet after the war aswell.

Thanks for a vid ❤

I am russian communist. The Constantin Syomin line just killed me💀💀💀

@dis99n64

10 ай бұрын

в СССР запретят игры?

@romawar

10 ай бұрын

@@dis99n64 Да

@ivanserov1846

10 ай бұрын

Я как автор под конец решил: А че нет, Костя умелые журналист, демагог, знает как работать с людьми, как манипулировать, если пойдёт в партийную политику, то успех ему будет.

stalin breathes... MASSIVELY SUCESSFUL

I'm really enjoying these alternative scenarios

hi Love your vids!

Man, this ai geopolitic creepy pasta be trippin me out 😂 but the line about the KGB becoming an anti-corruption institution had me in stitches

@user-yx1wp2bl8d

8 ай бұрын

ai?

@IamaCosmonaut

7 ай бұрын

@user-yx1wp2bl8d Considering how ridiculous and unrealistic the events in this scenario are, it might aswell be written by AI.

I think it would be cool if we saw a what if about Winston Churchill growing up in America

Feels like in a strategy games where even when different leaders get elected they still do the same things

Very good video!

I think the UK would be with the commonwealth and build it up stronger after having a rift due to the falkland islands with America, and acting as its own neutral faction.

@jihangirastra3851

5 ай бұрын

The sues crisis already proved by then that the UK could no longer function without American financial assistance. With the shared culture as cushioning, there is little the Uk could do to move away from American control in this scenario

It seems all the pictures in Serov's document are missing.

Even though this is a cliche scenario this absolutely amazing

I dont see how the US just collapses, the US has a far more stable political system than the soviet union ever did, in fact they have one of the most stable political systems in the world with a 250 year continuous run of presidents and governemnt from its inception, something few other major powers can say aside from Britain itself. they also didnt have to deal with any major wars or conflict on their soil, or mass famine, genocide, starvation or any of that sort. Put it simply, there was less to be discontent about, and there was no reason to overthrow the government when you can just elect a new one. Plus they also werent a repressive, totalitarian regime that relied military force to keep people in line.

@chrisgaming9567

6 ай бұрын

"I dont see how the US just collapses, the US has a far more stable political system than the soviet union ever did" This is true, the video should've focused more on revolutionary movements in the US and what events could've turned things more in their favour. "with a 250 year continuous run of presidents and governemnt from its inception" Not how I'd describe it, considering that there was a civil war midway through that. "they also didnt have to deal with any major wars or conflict on their soil, or mass famine, genocide, starvation or any of that sort." Take out the "genocide" bit and this is true. "there was no reason to overthrow the government when you can just elect a new one." That's not how capitalist politics works. Although, the fact so much of the working class believed this probably played a big role. "Plus they also werent a repressive, totalitarian regime that relied military force to keep people in line." I wish they weren't.

When I saw Konstantin Semin as the leader of the USSR, I had a good laugh.

I seriously want to see a sequel for this tbh

What an interesting and refreshing scenario.

I feel like the Soviet Union taking Alaska is too much. But other than that, it's a great scenario.

@user-yx1wp2bl8d

8 ай бұрын

​@@yanniskarageorgiou6947Wow i really wanted to know thatin this video about the cold war and the USSR

@purpleblastoise

8 ай бұрын

Independent Alaska because it's big enough to be its own country.

Except that by any metric the USSR planned economy was able to rebuild everything pretty fast. The problem never was the USSR economy but rather the fact that the US wasn't destroyed during ww2 like the USSR was.

@tetraxis3011

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@IamaCosmonaut

7 ай бұрын

While not getting bombed did help USA massively, the problem with USSR was that after the rebuilding their planned economy stagnated for decades. It's easy to plan the rebuilding of something that already existed, while it's pretty damn hard to plan wide scale innovation to prevent your economy from stagnating.

Excellent job!!!

After watching the what if everything went perfect videos, this user suggestion is basically that but under a different name

This was great

@Kropotkino

2 ай бұрын

Hehehaha

Why would there be a war in Afghanistan? The reason for the war in our timeline was opposition by the Soviet revisionists to the "hardline" anti-revisionist Afghani government. Specifically the hardline "Khalqist" faction had overthrown the Soviet aligned "Parcham" faction. But in this timeline, where the revisionist forces headed by Khrushchev never take control of the USSR, the Khalqists would naturally align themselves with the USSR in the first place, leading to no war.

@chrisgaming9567

6 ай бұрын

I didn't know this, where can I find out more?

nice work and video

Great vid 🎉

I'd speaking Russian instead of English as a second language right now.

Alternate Title: What if stalin was less concerned about political opponents

@pee_0656

Жыл бұрын

Easy, then USSR falls after a coup and becomes revisionist way earlier with a socdem type of politics or even a full restoration of capitalism which would be 90s but 60 years earlier

I liked this! I am curious what would be happening in Canada?

@blizyon30fps86

Жыл бұрын

Canada would be desperate since the fall of the us would leave Canada unprotected and their economy in ruin, so they would turn to soviet aid much like europe

@ivanserov1846

11 ай бұрын

As author of the scenario, 3 way polarization Eastern coast sees many American refugees, with region getting more and more right wing The center in Ottawa, trying a balance line between America and RSFSR And Quebec, drifting more and more towards Socialism Civil War is around the corner

But for suggestion of your own content I think it'd be cooler if you made more North American what if content like what if Texas remained independent and became backed by France and joined the side of the Confederacy possibly involving France in the American civil war and then possibly having a stronger Mexico join the side of the US possibly creating a alternate first world war ?

So Canada is basically just Belarus in this timeline

A realistic and ideal scenario looking at a bright future for the people!

Love this!

are you going to do a viewer senario contest again

Basically "How to make Whatifalthist dies of cringe"

@jolt9484

7 ай бұрын

That's a bad thing??

@Atykhros

7 ай бұрын

@@jolt9484 no its a good thing infact

@jolt9484

7 ай бұрын

@@Atykhros 100% Facts and true.

@chrisgaming9567

6 ай бұрын

@@jolt9484 Glad we're all in agreement

Slight correction. The Republicans were largely in support of civil rights bills leading up to the the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Kennedy actually represented a change internally within the Democrat party on the issue of civil rights. What Kennedy's assassination did was force the national Democrat party to rally in relative unity on several issues, including then civil rights. I don't see how the successes of the Soviets would have prevented Kennedy's assassination, but even if it did it wouldn't have changed much regarding civil rights and racial tensions. The broad public support Kennedy is _seen_ as having is actually a result of the assassination. At the time of his re-election wasn't guaranteed. It is entirely possible that without his assassination he loses re-election, and that without passing a civil rights bill the Democrats lose one or two national elections. But the national Dems would fairly quickly change their position on civil rights as the opinions of Americans were changing on the issue. As LBJ saw it, it was simply electorally untenable to be in support or even just neutral towards segregation just to keep some Southern Democrat politicians happy. In order for there be significant tensions around the change of Kennedy's assassination: Kennedy would have to lose re-election > the Dems take that as meaning a pro-civil rights stance is not worth it > National Dems double down on ambiguity on civil rights > Dems lose several elections > poor Southern Democrat workers feel alienated from their national party and from the wider country > dissident Southern Dems are funded by the Soviets and link up with other dissident worker movements in Northern cities. But that's just trying to make Kennedy not being assassinated significant in the way you want it to be.

this was really great

Quite late to the comments here but what happened to: Australia and Japan in the alternate 2000s and 2010s?

I really like this scenario. It does sell how the US might lose well. Especially the Mexico intervention and following guerilla war there that does nothing but bleed America of money. Sort of like Afghanistan for the Soviets. It's still a little far-fetched, but no side is acting like to big idiots.

This entire video is just me doing the walter White Fall every five seconds😭😭💀

@18:40 a timeline where Patrice Lumumba lives would be great news not only for the Congo but Africa & PanAfricanism in general.

This is a nice video

I have to wonder if Japan would really be left untouched by the USSR in this scenario lol

Проорался с генсека Сёмина, спасибо

@justnothin1283

9 ай бұрын

лучше остаться в нынешней реальности, чем с генсеком трулём)

@nick5699

9 ай бұрын

@@justnothin1283 естественно

Very Nice Video

love the video

8:16, What if Yugoslavia was actually just an inland sea?

Blessed timeline

fantastic video but one thing, how do you know china wouldn’t push for border disputes with india?

Cool video

You lost me at the USSR getting Mexico. The PRI was the perfect dictatorship for the entire duration of the cold war and with it being US's Southern border the PRI would get massive support in the name of stopping communism making the end of the system and a coup impossible. Explaining how the PRI fails during the cold war will be a video longer than this one. You could have argued that the USSR uses the PRI to make Mexico a non-aligned nation and that making the US do some dumb thing. But certainly there would be no communsit revolution in Mexico

@ivanserov1846

Жыл бұрын

Comrade PH slightly fucked the scenario in some places, Mexico was one of them. The point of turbulence in Mexico, is the Mexican Financial Crisis of 94, which is made a bit worse in the scenario, alongside Soviet efforts og building a wider left coalition and finally-Soviet aid in the economic reconstruction all of which drove Mexico closer to RSFSR.

@duckling3615

Жыл бұрын

@@ivanserov1846 Gotcha

@napoleonfeanor

6 ай бұрын

It's generally a "my favorite country wins everything" scenario

It's was funny to watch, but you are simply using U.S format to reflect it on CCCP. At the end i can't see Soviets caring much about the multipolarism in the same way the U.S hegemom does, since internationalism is pretty much one of the basics communism ideology. In a way it's not about win aganist other nations but aganist the ideology of imperialism.