What If South Africa Collapsed? | Alternate History
What If Following The End Of Apartheid, South Africa Had Collapsed, And Divided Into Multiple Nations Just Like The Soviet Union, And Yugoslavia The Same Year In 1991?
#AlternateHistory #MonsieurZ #SouthAfrica
New Videos Every Wednesday At 2:30 PM EST
__
Website: usofz.com/
__
Patreon: / monsieurz
__
Merchandise: teespring.com/stores/monsieur-z
__
Music Used: • Dramatic Tribal Backgr...
__
Guest Stars:
Пікірлер: 543
What if Japan never annexed Korea What if Germany was dismantled after ww1 What if the heavenly kingdom won What if England won the hundred years war What if the aztec empire survived
@bt3lfer10
5 жыл бұрын
Heavenly kingdom, yes
@johnericedwards6495
5 жыл бұрын
This "what if England won the 100 yrs wars" narrative is really irritating. We won all the battles but only slightly lost the war because of the incompetence in our leadership. Who needs territories in France anyway. We did fine without the frogs across the Channel and created the greatest empire in the history of mankind.
@Dad-lu1oi
4 жыл бұрын
John Eric Edwards the United Kingdom sucks
@duskpede5146
3 жыл бұрын
germany was dismantled. it lost all its colonys and parts of poland, there just was a limit to how much they could take since it was all already filled with germans
@johnnyscifi
2 жыл бұрын
But Germany was dismantled after ww1. It's just the mainland Germany that wasn't...ie: South West Africa...
What if youtube didn't oppress its creators?
@salusoutlook2266
5 жыл бұрын
peace on earth would be achieved
@papastalin1736
4 жыл бұрын
I like your pfp
@travishillsthedarkangelbun504
3 жыл бұрын
It would still be a generation of kids that would make a living off of being KZreadrs. It's unfortunate that the mass censorship is now ruining everything.
@bruhz_089
3 жыл бұрын
They don’t
@zapre2284
Жыл бұрын
Biden wouldnt be in the Whitehouse ?
Implying we haven't collapsed yet...
@mr.terrific601
5 жыл бұрын
*Whites are not entitled to any type of land nor any kind of ethnostate country in Africa especially in South Africa*
@johneli1707
5 жыл бұрын
@@mr.terrific601 I completely agree with you
@shawnrileywest2826
5 жыл бұрын
Cause the white work on there
@BikingVikingHH
5 жыл бұрын
FBI boom *!
@anuvisraa5786
5 жыл бұрын
why not we all come from africa.
As a South African I have to commend you on a very accurate predicative video. A lot of the sentiments are dead accurate. Good job!!
@anura_og
Жыл бұрын
Some definitely not accurate at all
This won't be alternate history for long
@kronosbach5263
4 жыл бұрын
I hope not.
@lmc4355
3 жыл бұрын
Funny how you people speak like this only on the internet
@JustinianG
3 жыл бұрын
You might be interested in this timeline I made where I discuss a possible breakup of south africa (don't let the title fool you) kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4Sol7quaKjIkto.html
@JustinianG
3 жыл бұрын
@@kronosbach5263 You might be interested in this timeline I made where I discuss a possible breakup of south africa (don't let the title fool you) kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4Sol7quaKjIkto.html
@JustinianG
3 жыл бұрын
@Apu The Boer You might be interested in this timeline I made where I discuss a possible breakup of south africa (don't let the title fool you) kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4Sol7quaKjIkto.html
Britain: *boston massacre* America: *rebels* Britain: *kills south africans* South Africa: *rebels* Britain: seriously wtf
@Infernal460
5 жыл бұрын
The "Boston Massacre" was guards defending themselves from deadly force. It was named "massacre" for political means, a justified reason for rebellion.
@porchofgeese_crockpot
4 жыл бұрын
@@Infernal460 Oh yes, Defend yourself from people throwing snowballs at you by shooting them
@bruh1762
4 жыл бұрын
@@porchofgeese_crockpot Oh yes, Defend yourself from people throwing rocks and making one of your men fall down by being hit then have the same man hit with a cudgel along with your captain with a crowd taunting you to fire at them which could be misconstrued as an order from said captain
@papastalin1736
4 жыл бұрын
Rhodesian Patriot lol I like your name
@porchofgeese_crockpot
4 жыл бұрын
@@papastalin1736 Thank you. I like yours too
The collaps started in 1990, still gathering momentum. The planning for this started somewhere around 1948.
Lets change the title to "when south Africa collapses"
Implying it hasn't already? The UN even admitted south Africa is declining faster than several nations currently at war. The biggest example is how the SADF has gone from the ninth-best army in 1991to one of the world worst. Hell one of the elite military units had its horse confiscated because the soldiers had been selling off the horse feed for years.
@Caleb6000
Жыл бұрын
Exactly how the fuck has SA collapsed??😂 You white folks are hilarious in your online echo chambers.
3:20 "Today the nation is a mess." Understatement.
What if Apartheid remained in South Africa?
@mr.terrific601
5 жыл бұрын
*Whites are not entitled to any type of land nor any kind of ethnostate country in Africa especially in South Africa, if you are racist white South African you need to leave that country*
@esaug644
5 жыл бұрын
@@mr.terrific601 well then the same argument can be made towards blacks living in Europe its a really dumb argument can't blame people because of the actions of their forefathers
@esaug644
5 жыл бұрын
@@mr.terrific601 you're very right I don't advocate for those presumptions too
@beurteilung713
5 жыл бұрын
@@mr.terrific601 I like how you call me racist but them say you want to genocide white people in other comments. Get a FUCKING GRIP LOSER. You call me racist, but the ones who are the accusers are usually just projecting. And you fucking wonder why blacks aren't well received in many parts of the world. Childish self-entitled fucks like you give them a bad name.
@JL-ti3us
5 жыл бұрын
@@mr.terrific601 Black Manta as a South African we are trying to work towards a society which isnt defined by the colour of our skin, so please before you sow hate the seeds of violence; consider the benefits of moving forward to a better tomorrow instead of ruining today to tomorrows generation
What if Bolivar and San Martín's vision of "The United Provinces of South America" was fully realized?
I'm South African. Agree with a lot you said but think that the war wouldn't be so bad as a lot of the population were already changing views on apartheid in the late 80's.
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb
7 ай бұрын
Today the world is calling for apartheid, wonder why that is!
What if the Soviet Afghan war never happened
@Josh-qx8sq
3 жыл бұрын
nothing
Please turn on the subs
Please keep on asking the questions that other people do not dare to.
@JL-ti3us
5 жыл бұрын
We need more people willing to ask the controversial questions in the world
@jancovanderwesthuizen8070
5 жыл бұрын
Like Was 1970s South Africa that bad?
*sees "Zimbabwe" on the map at **0:44* It's called R H O D E S I A
@apotato5567
3 жыл бұрын
No it's not
@guccigoldberg5303
3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a racist brony
@sabercat2178
3 жыл бұрын
@@guccigoldberg5303 it's a meme dude
What if Karl Marx moved to the USA instead of England?
@Matrix_985
5 жыл бұрын
then he would have a taste of "The American Dream" lol
@mojungle3054
5 жыл бұрын
@@Matrix_985 and yet, Marx wouldn't be satisfied
@markhenley3097
5 жыл бұрын
Then he wouldn't be a commie.
@alphagamer9505
3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps communism would appear in latin America first instead of europe
@MrMirville
2 жыл бұрын
He would have kept the same ideas more or less but he would have identified with the Republican Radicals to the point he would have become a Republican leader and maybe won over the presidency under that banner, though not for very long. The Republican Party would have remained decidedly left-wing.
Let's see how California ends up, too.
Great Video!!!!
The title "What If South Africa Collapsed?" does not make clear whether it is an alternate history or a hypothetical future.
What if emperor nero lived what if Britain stayed Roman what if the mongol empire never
Thanks for the great content to come home from a shitty day to :)
2:24 n- ni- n- ... nice?
1990's: Most turbulent decade in American history. 2020's: Hold my beer.
I'm really interested as to why you divided the map like that. Was it based on ethnic lines?
@dieafrikaner3932
5 жыл бұрын
Luthando Nqakala nope, sommer net 😂
Once a certain demographic takes over ...things seem to go to shit.
Hi Monsieur Z, just coming here to ask if you could revisit the 'what if Rome never fell' scenario because for some reason it has been blocked in my domain (no idea why though), just bringing it up. Thanks for the content Also I would like to see a scenario of 'what if Britain stayed Roman', I would like your take on it after seeing a series by OfficiallyDevin on Total War Attila called the 'Fields of Mars'
@shonenjumpmagneto
2 жыл бұрын
Code Geass is an anime that basically is "what if Great Brittain stayed Roman?" So... They start like modern day UK, they decide they want their last Colonies back & invade 1 at a time. World news big deal, then they start renaming all them as numbers. So it's not British Malay it's "4". After annexing past Colonies theu expand from each eventually bringing down world powers like Japan AKA "11". Story goes off from there more or less taking place there.
Monsieur Z: "Death toll of 69." Me: Nice
*turns on news* What do you mean "what if"?
Ain’t it funny how stuff like this always winds up? Really, *really* makes you think.
so the massacre was a mistake? wow. that changes my perspective completely
I'm subscribed to your channel, I watch your videos. How did I never see this? Scary...
AHM.... 2021 Shit is getting hard...
I dream about this while cuddling my bok body pillow every night before I fall asleep
South Africa might be partitioned. The ANC was given an opportunity to run South Africa and look how well they have done with the nation.
This definitely won’t be “alternate history” for long! Especially with how BRICS recently started.
Implying the Bantus are native to S. Africa, lul.
@bruhtonbruhkkinson6848
5 жыл бұрын
@@silvergriffin2585 The Bantus were only able to migrate southwards at all due to the conquest, enslavement and genocide of the Khoisan. I'm not refuting the facts though.
@JL-ti3us
5 жыл бұрын
Maybe 2000 years in the far northern province of Limpopo; but Bantu peoples only began to migrate from the North-eastern portions of South Africa west around the same time the Europeans were migrating east; meeting at the Great Fish River in the Eastern Cape where im from
@angevdw2887
5 жыл бұрын
@@silvergriffin2585 No, they weren't.
@mansonwalker5815
5 жыл бұрын
Ok they still African aren’t they
@mansonwalker5815
5 жыл бұрын
Malekith the Witch-King even if that’s true it’s not a moral justification for imperialism.
1. What if Russia defeats the German Empire and the Ottoman Empire during the WW1? 2. What if Goguryeo success to unified the Korean Peninsula during the three kingdoms of Korea? 3. What if South Korea won the Korean War? (1950-1953) 4. What if the Korean Empire never fails? 5. What if the Russian Empire won the Crimean War? 6. What if the French won the French and Indian War? 7: What if Mongolian army success to invade Japan? 8. What if North Korea was collapsed at Arduous March in 1996? 9. What if South Vietnam was won the Vietnam War? 10. What if Goguryeo success to conquered whole China? 11. What if Poland won the WW2? 12. What if Finland won the Winter War? 13. What if reptilians are real? 14. What if Dinosaur never extinct? 15. What if Deep Ones are real? 16. What if Soviet Union and China went war in 1969? 17. What if White army of Russia won the Russian Civil war? 18. What if Ireland join the central powers? 19. What if Charlottesville riot causes the civil war in the USA? 20. What if the operation bay of pigs has successful? 21. What if Israel won the Yom Kippur War? 22. What if Venezuela went civil war in 2019? 23. What if Spain won the Spanish American War? 24. What if British lose the Falkland war? 25. What if China was collapse at The Great Leap Forward Movement in 1961 or 1962? 26. What if the Italian Army was good in WW2? 27. What if China won the Sino Japanese War in 1937? 28. What if Russia won the Sino-Russian border conflicts in 1652-1689?
come on you can't not have a sequel to this
I can see the Gen Constand Viljoen uptake a leadership position in this timeline
Please make a part 2
I don't think this is going to stay alternate-history for long
Bra this is one dope ass what if scenario bro like u nailed my country's collapse
ethnostate when?
@johneli1707
5 жыл бұрын
*Whites are not entitled to any type of land nor any kind of ethnostate country in Africa especially in South Africa*
@atlas5653
3 жыл бұрын
@@johneli1707 No one is entitled to anything, you only get what you are willing to take. SA will collapse. It's only a matter of time. The boers will have their chance. Will they take it? I don't know.
I can’t help but notice the background song sounds just like the halo reach song
What if the events of the Modern Warfare timeline occured?
South Africa was really strong in apartheid
Lmao, maybe this wont be an alternate history after all.
Just to let you know; Black Identity was fostered after the Black Conciousness movement under Steve Biko in the 1970's in my country; so i think the segregation of black states within south africa instead of a unifed state is unrealistic. More likely that the ANC would take control of african zones; having traditionally run tribal lands (which do still exist) being granted more automy under chiefs.
Great video, I would just add that there was a report that without interference the old SAW(Boer Army) would have been able to take entire Africa in a matter of months , thus I believe that if there was a war it would have been swift and brutal and if the Boers had retained the army and weapons, would have destroyed the black ethnic states quite quickly, also we would have focused on the Kwazulu Natal as it was the only powerful black nation(military wise) and they did not as you suggested have a close alliance with the ANC , they had their interests in the ANC but would have not have let Mandela lead them, their King would have
@shaddythewiz3836
3 жыл бұрын
U mean southern Africa. I would understand that ,but not the whole of Africa as northern eastern western Africa had kingdoms and empire far stronger and advance than the zulu or any empire in southern africa. they had guns from trading with European and had big cities which the zulu empire lacked.
@Francois_vanderMerwe
3 жыл бұрын
@@shaddythewiz3836 No in the 1970's I mean. Without outside interference, there was a study done, that simulated such a scenario, in the 1970s there was no nation in Africa close to South Africa, not even Egypt.
@shaddythewiz3836
3 жыл бұрын
@@Francois_vanderMerwe in 1970. Still by then every African country will have modern weapons so it will be a bloody process and it will hurt South Africa more and then it will help. at that time I'm more realistic model is probably taking all a southern Africa and possibly in getting to East and Central Africa. Because by then multiple coalitions would who began against South Africa and would force a lot of these nations to either develop a very strong military to counter it something african armies didn't do . Also it would probably unite these countries even more if South Africa did it then at the time as they have a new common enemy and it's not each other but South Africa. U
@Francois_vanderMerwe
3 жыл бұрын
@@shaddythewiz3836 I agree with you on a lot there but their technology was far behind ours, the rest I agree with. But it talks about the military capabilities of the South African army against African nations, even if they stood together, without outside help they would have lost, if you look at the start of the Angolan war we walked over the Angolans. There was just no nation that would have stood a chance against us without the communist block help.
@draycoeternal2876
3 жыл бұрын
@@Francois_vanderMerwe from a military perspective it is true that SA boer was advanced and had numerous capabilities to take over the SADC region but it would be almost impossible to maintain these newly acquired territories without having to fully wipe out the ethic majorities on these areas . In SA the boer already had a tough time fully controlling the local Bantu populations and there’s been numerous instances of racial clashes or racialized attacks on both sides . And also taking into consideration that the boers / whites in general were a minority group , and still are today . How do you realistically expect to maintain a strong influence over these regions? Especially when it is guaranteed the black MAJORITY will definitely resist and undermine your rule . I agree you would have the military capability of conquering these regions but I think you’d soon quickly loose these regions anyway. Plus you’d be giving the black ethic tribes along these regions the precise reason for them to overlook their differences and to unify against a common enemy (the white man) which in itself may have led to a massive race war with numerous casualties on both sides , due to whites having lesser numbers and black Bantu having a lot more to spare , it could completely back fire for you weakening your position and furthermore thinning out your resources , and eventually lead to you not only loosing your SADC territories but you loosing a strong hold over SA , pushing you into a corner of only being able to have control over a small province instead of half a continent , you also don’t take into consideration the influence of the soviet commies who had interests in Africa and spreading African Communism , the black majority may pledge allegiance to the soviets in return for funding, training and being equipped by them and because your boer/white military would be spread thin throughout the SADC region it would be virtually impossible to fully control/monitor and regulate these areas effectively, preventing the entrance of these “weapons” . If the Boer/white minority in SA today had to attempt a war on the majority black Bantu population , I believe it would end badly for both sides , but particularly for the boers , A lot of black Bantu have a lot of resentment for whites , due to the land being stolen and historical discrimination. They want nothing more than to launch a full massacre on the white population settling old scores . And if You start it but the Bantu finish it , I don’t The western world would intervene for your sake , as you will be seen as white , racist nationalists who betrayed the charity of the local natives who gave you a chance at redemption and reconciliation, but you sought out to rip open old wounds. The only real influence White minority in SA have is over economic issues , with white elite ( not all whites , middle class white and poor whites excluded ) still owning and controlling majority of the country’s wealth , that’s where it ends . And in the modern day Bantu basically control the SANDF , even though it’s not as strong as it was during apartheid, but it’s strong enough to completely wipe out any white resistance or military coup also taking into consideration other black countries will happily support SA Bantu as a lot of black Africans have strong silent hatred for the former white oppressors and colonizers , but play nice as the western world would place a lot of life crippling sanctions on these countries if they were to ethnically remove white but if u had to start the war it would give the black countries all the reason the need to carry out these heinous crimes.Theres no way the boers , TODAY , can reestablish a boer republic without outwardly buying land from the government or pushing for cape Succession, both which are unlikely options as it doesn’t suit economic opportunities for the White elite , being a part of SA and cohabitating with black Bantu serve their economic interests , most customers , employees and partners of major white companies are majority black Bantu , hence a race war , won’t serve them , even tho the poor whites and middle class white would probably benefit from it , reestablishing their priority in the work place and other societal areas , I think it’s safe to say if you want the return of white rule , you’d probably have to come back to Europe or the States , it’s unlikely that whites will ever completely rule in Africa again.
Dude, what do you mean, just wait a decade more or so.
I , as a young South African, would basically rather live in any other country in the world cause South Africa isn’t a rainbow nation and is as broken as can be, the only somewhat good part is the natural part.
@JustinianG
3 жыл бұрын
I think you would like this timeline I made where I discuss a possible breakup of south africa (don't let the title fool you) kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4Sol7quaKjIkto.html
What if Florence or some other major Italian state during Da Vinci's time took interest in Da Vinci's inventions and managed to unite Italy by mass producing them, causing an Industrial Revolution in Renaissance Italy. Da Vinci was a mastermind, he had plans for what was basically a tank with cannons on all side, he had plans for cannons in a time when cannons didn't exist, an aerial screw that acted like a helicopter, and more inventions.
@hardlineamerican8495
5 жыл бұрын
Da Vinci had many more inventions such as diving suits, parachutes, a triple barreled cannon, a cart that moved on its own, he connected human waste to disease and drew plans for sewers, giant crossbows, and even a machine-gun like cannon known as the 33-barreled Organ.
@carinaslima
7 ай бұрын
@@hardlineamerican8495nice
I think we are watching it happen in real time.
What if Mexican stayed as an empire when it declared its independence from Spain
Can you make a video on the other nations
South africa should be split in two.
The State of Cape (Coloureds). The South African Republic. (Afrikaners) The Bantu Empire (Blacks). New India. (Indians) That's the 4 South African states.
What if the banks collapsed in 2008?
What if the Rurikids stayed true to Rurik's original goal and never adopted Slavic culture and religion? What if the Mongols discovered America by going through Russia into Alaska? Not very realistic but what if several pagan groups adopted Satanism instead of traditional Christianity?
Please make sure to increase your mic volume next video.
WHEN will South Africa collapse*
@liampetersen7548
4 жыл бұрын
Who knows maybe in a few years
@JustinianG
3 жыл бұрын
I think you would like this timeline I made where I discuss a possible breakup of south africa (don't let the title fool you) kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4Sol7quaKjIkto.html
@JustinianG
3 жыл бұрын
@FranciscoMendez I think you would like this timeline I made where I discuss a possible breakup of south africa (don't let the title fool you) kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4Sol7quaKjIkto.html
@JustinianG
3 жыл бұрын
@@liampetersen7548 I think you would like this timeline I made where I discuss a possible breakup of south africa (don't let the title fool you) kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4Sol7quaKjIkto.html
This channel is lowkey better than alternate history hub
@JustinianG
3 жыл бұрын
I think you would like this timeline I made where I discuss a possible breakup of south africa (don't let the title fool you) kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4Sol7quaKjIkto.html
Holy shit I’ve never been so early to a video ever
'Specifically in the year 1992 LA Riots' oh boi that aged well
What if Guy Fawkes was able to blow up parliament?
Just saying, your first ethnostate map of South Africa at 3:52 is far more accurate than the one at 4:45
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb
10 ай бұрын
That map is factually incorrect... South Africa has four provinces + 2 Rhodesia which was given to Anglo-Saxons and the South West... So it was the Cape, Natal, Transvaal and Freestste
@joemaloney1019
Ай бұрын
You could draw a line North to South cutting off the west third of the country and call it Cape Africa, that is where most of the Whites and coloured live. Only the coast towns and Joberg have white communities. The Boer farmers are outnumbered in the restcof the country.
Make a part 2
What if the Inca Empire survived?
What if Spain tried to retake it’s old colonies in 1825 after the Monroe Doctrine was declared?
Also the transkei kwazulu thing wouldn't happen as in the 90s there was a lot of poltical violence between the ANC and IFP - who are the zulu nationalist party.
I think you have a made a fundamental error at the beginning of your assumption which increased the size of the error at the end. Assuming everything happened that led to the breakup of the country, there is no way Transkei would have been able to exert dominance on the Zulu. The breakup would have followed far more ethnic lines, in Black South Africa, and Zulu military dominance over Xhosa populated Transkei would have been a foregone conclusion. Needing sea access and being able to revive treaties between the Boer and the Zulu, Zululand would become an ally with The Boer Republic. With crime increasing in Zululand, there would be flow of migration of English speaking South Africans, to the Cape. Having lost Afrikaner support, from the Boer Republic, De Klerk would last no more than 1 term in office, with the Democratic Party taking over leadership of the Cape. Meanwhile, in Transkei Mandela would make the same mistakes he made as President of SA, and not forget his Friends, Gadaffi, Cuba, China etc, and more in-line with Communism, as he needs the Communist party, and trade union support, in Transkei to maintain power, and therefore move further away from US support. China was not yet an economic powerhouse, and would not have much interest in Transkei due to lack of natural resources. This would leave Zululand, who under the leadership of Buthelezi would have adopted a more federalist western friendly system of Government. Remember, even today, the IFP have policies more inline with US values, small Government, lower taxes, flexible labour laws etc. coupled with a large Indian population, they would also be allies with India, who are US regional allies. US money pouring into Zululand, would require technical expertise, that the Boer Republic would be happy to provide, thereby increasing co-operation between the Zulu and the Boers, with neither having an interest in the other one failing. Any sanctions on the Boer republic would be negated by Afrikaner ingenuity, much the same as during apartheid, only this time, with more support from countries like India and Zululand itself. However, as the Boer republic would not need a race based system, due to larger population, there would be no reason for sanctions. Military speaking, the Boers would have a slight upper hand over the Cape, but would have no interest over stretching their resources. Cooperation would therefore be the most sensible part to play, by the Cape. There would also be valuable trade between the two states, as a large part of the Cape is Semi desert, the Boer would have a greater crop yield. The Transkei would slowly turn into the basket case of the region, as current ANC run South Africa is full of corruption and nepotism. Without the tax base to fund these acts, or natural resources, they will fall apart far sooner. They would have also been reliant on the Boers for Electrical supply, and other functions from non existent or failing infrastructure. The Cape, Zululand and Boer republic, will therefore need to cooperate against illegal immigration and crime from across their Borders with Transkei.
@JustinianG
3 жыл бұрын
I think you would like this timeline I made where I discuss a possible breakup of south africa (don't let the title fool you) kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4Sol7quaKjIkto.html
man u were 4yrs ahead
If things keep going the way theyre going this isnt going to be an alternate history
Can you do a video on the domination of the draka
What if the Soviet Union joined the Axis What if Trosky wasn’t assassinated What if both the USSR and USA collapsed after the Cold War What if Japan joined the Allies What if the Soviet Union became Syndicalist instead
I got a suggestion, could you make a episode where Pangea never broke up and stayed together how would nations work? And would there be peace or war for full control? Also if you think it’s a nation then no it was the first large land mass or continent in the world.
@paleozoey
5 жыл бұрын
the breakup of pangea was necessary to even allow large dinosaurs to rise during the jurassic (the interior desert climate was too much). biogeography and geology would be changed incredibly to the point where the later mesozoic is unrecognizable and the metorite impact perhaps isn't even as lethal. even if it still wipes out the dinosaurs, there's a slim chance anything similar to our own cenozoic even happens, and the evolution of apes and eventually upright ones was dependent on the formation of the himalayas and african rift valley- tectonic processes that would halt if pangea still existed. tl;dr the world is so different mankind simply doesn't evolve at all
So much of this playlist is hidden or taken down.... Rhodesia for example is taken down.
Saffer here. One would have to consider the water, resource, labour and electricity scarcity of living in the Kalahari desert, which is what the majority of the western part of the country consists of. Orania is situated on the banks of the Orange river and as such has become a successful agrarian community, but apart from Uranian mining and fracking , the Northern Cape region is still uncharted territory for those wishing to exploit its resources. The Afrikaner state would have to make a lot of concessions in agreements with the various other states to (for example) gain access to coal generated electricity. It would initially be overreliant on imports...and considering the 5 year drought we now have in South Africa, it would also be hardpressed to feed the populace. The question of unskilled labour is also a very pressing issue for Afrikaners, as they've since the founding of the Boer Republics relied heavily on black labour. To suddenly sweep that rug from beneath them would create a major disruption, especially in the fields like agriculture and construction. That's where the real life Orania has made quite a big departure from the other states. In Orania both skilled and unskilled labour are done by Afrikaners. My speculation is that segregation based on race, at least in the white parts of the country would be short lived. Apartheid South Africa was still a western economy and could not afford limiting its labour pool to only whites if it had wanted to sustain the various parts of its government, including the military - which had fought the communists for decades longer than America had spent in Vietnam. The projects needed to tame the Kalahari and create a consumer market would potentially require a lot of labour and imported resources.
As a South African I need to give you my opinin for a more accurate alternative history. First of all the NP (National Party) was the considered a or the conservative party of South Africa. The Conservative Party (Konservatiewe Party) was the Conservative. That being said they where also not the most liberal party. They where in between. Second of all. If the Boer republic formed and white South Africans (especially Afrikaners) had to move then they would have kicked FW De Klerk out as the leader of the state and would have definitely gone for someone much more radical. They would not however fight the other nations especially if the US backed Transkei. Boer's are angry but not Stupid. It would probably have been the start of a second help mekasr era. However inside the Boer republic it would have probably been hell if you where deemed not white for the first twenty years. After that I believe internal Social Justice warriors and the internet would have helped with relations such as coloureds. Remember white South Africans did vote for apartheid to end!
is this the same narrator from alternative history?
This guy is fucking based holy shit
Ooo and also you could do a what if latin america (specially south america) got involved in ww1 or ww2
What if Southafrica had adopted the cult of Makima, Revy, Cutie Honey, Marin Kitagawa, Trixie Tang, Judy Neutron, Marge Simpson, Wendy Corduroy, Lois Griffin, Sailor Moon and Maddie Fenton instead of Abrahamic shit?
What if the aussies won the emu war
4:00 They did the math on that one...
What if Venus and Mars were habitable and this was clearly noticeably with early telescopes? I am talking clearly visible oceans, clouds and green landscapes, ect.
Can you look into OGAS ?
Option 1: Alternate History: What if Germany and their allies didn't surrender in WW1? Option 2: Alternate History: What if communism replaced democracy in the 19th century?
@Benjamin-Franklin
5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@SuperZombieBros
5 жыл бұрын
Option 1 sounds cool! Also I like your Paper Mario profile.
Its pronounce "Sue-two" btw
Before I continue, I'd like to thank you for even covering South Africa...TWICE. I've begged other people like Cody on Alt. History Hub to do something in Africa instead of always focusing on Europe and America. If you can, look into the history of the Swahili on of the Swahili coast. What if the Swahili became as "modernised" (for lack of a better word) as they're trading Islamic trading partners. Or what if Great Zimbabwe became an empire? Or what if the Bantu-Nguni tribes of the Xhosa or Zulu had come into contact with guns before the Dutch colonised? As stow aways have been recorded to have washed up ashore of these two tribes and married into them too. So possibility of transfer of knowledge was probably high. But I have said what I wanted to say. Let me watch the video.
What if Russia won the battle of tannenberg
You just had to stretch it to 10 minutes
No views Three likes Nine comments Good job KZread
@jesus2639
5 жыл бұрын
You're the hero we need
What if Rome and Carthage allied and expanded North and South respectively until the formed one giant mega empire or fought each other a bunch
I think you meant "when" not "what if"
Texas becomes a country worth it!
@yowsg8421
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry ain’t gonna happen if you do the rest of the south is coming with texas
@thedoctorairsoft6813
3 жыл бұрын
@@yowsg8421 Ew we don't want the rest of the nasty south.
@janko7245
3 жыл бұрын
@@thedoctorairsoft6813 florida is cool tho
@thedoctorairsoft6813
3 жыл бұрын
@@janko7245 That is Great. But Texan Nationalists are not wanting another confederate or united states, But rather just a Republic of Texas.
@natebox4550
Жыл бұрын
@@thedoctorairsoft6813 it’s not gonna happen, your better off in the stars anyways.
The discription given about the sharp villeins massacre is not the same as the one given In my school, it's sad how they would bend the truth to suit a narrative
South Africa is collapsing aka its Zimbabwe 2.0 when they kicked out the boer farmers there were famines
@JL-ti3us
5 жыл бұрын
No famines yet here; nor have they been kicked out yet; but we'll see what happens after the March 8 Elections
@ducklinguini6029
5 жыл бұрын
Malekith the Witch-King I’m talking about Zimbabwe
@JL-ti3us
5 жыл бұрын
@@ducklinguini6029 oh, fair enough, my mom was born in Zimbabwe by the way and she, well, my oupa fled here with his children around the time Mugabe came to power