What if China made a Toyota Avalon? Meet the GAC Trumpchi GA8
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
For the past 15 years or so, it seems like more or less every Chinese automaker has declared their intention to enter the American market. Generally speaking, these plans didn’t seem to amount to much more than writing a press release with a vague timeline, followed by a whole lot of silence when that timeline came and went. But there have been a few Chinese automakers that really seemed to take the matter seriously. Perhaps none more so than this one, Trumpchi. So, today we’re going to have a go with this Trumpchi GA8 and find what, if anything, Americans are missing out on.
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wow, I descovered your channel last night, I've already watched almost all your videos, even if your channel is new (3 months old) the quality of the videos and editing are very very good, also the way you talk and express your opinions are very good. I really hope you keep doing the reviews, i would like to see a review of various great wall models, more electric cars and the quirks and features from those cars. in my opinion, you will turn into the doug de muro of the chinese car industry. cheers from Colombia.
Wow, this is actually a really good looking sedan
@stupid0nut
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I'm surprised!
@lilwilly5265
3 жыл бұрын
wait until it falls apart after 5 years
@ComradeMario
3 жыл бұрын
@@lilwilly5265 I personaly know a engineer at GAC's user research department, and they take their products seriousily.
@begood14
2 жыл бұрын
It's just looking good Engine performance worst
@omaralkayal7598
2 жыл бұрын
In my eyes all sedans look beautiful Unlike bread and butter SUV’s 💀
Instantly subscribed bro... This is like discovering a whole new side of cars I never knew about.
@GerinHarada
3 жыл бұрын
Wow...😆😆 Good.
Chinese car brands really need to hire a brand naming consultancy to rename their models for the western markets. Do what the Koreans brands did and westernize their model names (Santa Fe, Soul...)
@johankhadka7157
3 жыл бұрын
they even need someone to design their logos
@senagst6510
3 жыл бұрын
@Packo_ Hubu nice troll
@youngz13o
3 жыл бұрын
As an American Chinese, I couldn’t agree more. The names are just so weird. I’ve been saying it for years
@cliffkachina3355
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree with you
@williamwatitwa3534
3 жыл бұрын
western brands name their cars in a western manner , let Chinese brands name them in Chinese . quality is all you need the rest is just sounds .
All I’m hearing is that the brand is called “Trump Cheap”.😂
@onethirdmayo8556
3 жыл бұрын
IKR XD
@haoruchen4216
3 жыл бұрын
“Trump cheat” is what I heard
@nickthomas181
3 жыл бұрын
A decent car they used to be based on Alfas with a new skin of tin this is according to Top Gear who went to China to try one
@dokingjonson6173
3 жыл бұрын
hahahahhahahahha
@user-su2mq1yk9l
3 жыл бұрын
Haha , that's true . It reads like Chuanqi = Trump cheat
I think you got a good thing going by being a car review channel on youtube that focus on Chinese cars; none of the other channels are doing it and honestly, I think your market will grow within the next years as more and more people buy chinese cars.
@lukehuang7821
3 жыл бұрын
No other English-speaking channels, you mean.
@zdme4864
2 жыл бұрын
Chinese cars are the obvious final harbinger of the Death of Detroit on wheels.
Good quality video and presentation again! Good job!
One thing you forgot to mention is that GAC is partner manufacturer of Toyota,honda and many other Japanese brands in China, the development of trumpchi evolved around huge technological knowledge gained by GAC , over the years by manufacturing Toyota and Honda cars in China, basically we can say trumpchi is an offspring of Toyota and Honda 😁
The use of that waist pack is the result of a bet that you lost? Lol Nice channel and video production. Cheers from Brazil.
GAC sells this car here in the Philippines, it is notable though that they've dropped all mentions of the name "Trumpchi" in the branding for our market (I guess obvious reasons). It sells for between 41- 48k USD over here and to put it kindly...it does not sell very well.
Back in 2017 or 2018 (can't remember) I went to the Detroit Autoshow and sat in a few GAC's. The stunning thing is that in every single one, the interior was a parts bin, with designs from a bunch of different manufacturers, as shown here. Buick wheel, Mercedes screen, dash and sonsole, etc Not that it's a bad thing... But still
Great review, i like the car and the reviewer
MG launched an SUV known as GLOSTER some months back in India.... it had a pretty nice Brochure to show but its not able to climb even a simple hill with all those gears and buzz
This model was started around 2015, so they didn't think about having a super high-end transmission system yet. (However the GM8 minivan received a new 8-speed gearbox for the 2020 refresh. Weird.) I'm pretty sure that with GAC's heavy attention to the BEV market, it won't be long before they ditch this model in favor of a similarly sized AION sedan to conveniently compete with the BYD Han, XPeng P7 or the Tesla Model 3. And I'm sure the AION will look much more futuristic.
Great channel, subscribed.
I'm really thinking of buying it, but how about its quality? is it good? would it last at least 7 years fully functional?
Really great review..thank you
Cars like this would do wonders for Chinese automakers' rep in Western markets. For some reason they continue to only export bargain basement models.
If this was sold in Canada, I'd definitely check it out.
All gac ga8 accessories are excellent And excellent powerful engines There is only a slight flaw, the hole is narrow The accelerator pedal and somewhat in the rear suspension of the average rear passengers when bumps and the length of the car is suitable for men Business
Love your review! Unique series of vehicles reviews too! Keep it up! Got a request if u guys don't mind , Can u do a review a sportscar from chinese brand? Already watched ur Lynk and Co reviews, maybe another car / brands? Cheers!
@Wheelsboy
3 жыл бұрын
Chinese sports cars are few and far between these days, but rest assured that we'll be sure to test any that we can get our hands on! We have driven some pretty quick stuff, though, like the BYD Tang. It's definitely not a sports car, but 0-60 in less than 4.5 seconds ain't bad!
@gluttonousmaximus9048
3 жыл бұрын
There's the Qiantu K50 maybe
@Darkest_matter
3 жыл бұрын
China HAS HUGE TAXES on big engines.
the interior is beautiful
Love your videos guys. I genuinely think chinese car brands are the dark horse of the world. This thing looks incredible. Strange how the world has almost no knowledge and recognition of these amazingly futuristic cars! I've never seen such cool lights in a car before. I if you sold these in the west they would break the car market
It looks beautiful
That front grille is BYD esque
Here in Dubai Jac has a model called jac-8 or something, its similar size as an s-class and offers similar features for the price of a Toyota Camry base model.
You are good at talking and fannypacks. Subscribed.
Have you considered reviewing the nio es8?
@Wheelsboy
3 жыл бұрын
Michael Metz Definitely on the short list of cars we want to review, though we’re partial to the ES6, since it’s the same powertrain in a (albeit slightly) smaller package. Which means MORE SPEED!
they literally should consider changing the brand's name
@user-yi9ls5uf3v
3 жыл бұрын
Now is bidenchi
@JaniahOnfroy
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-yi9ls5uf3v lmaooo
@terranempire2
3 жыл бұрын
Notgoichi
@goodboysady
3 жыл бұрын
@@terranempire2 just make it chi chi
Great looking Sedan
I’m not gonna lie here, the name “Trumpchi” gives me Top Gear vibes. Does anyone remember that episode?
@jjohnson9775
3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Good times
@hansyang1697
3 жыл бұрын
Stig's Chinese cousin😂😂😂
@prototype615h
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, when the Stigs Chinese cousin was kicking Clarkson and May
This is a freaking nice car!
I can't take anyone who wears a fanny pack seriously. 😆 🤣 😂
Interior design that i liked the most.
Is that an Elantra XXL?
Wow. It actually looks way better than a Toyota. I've been looking at an "older" Avalon, quite frankly i hate the Toyota's new looks and design.
while is cheap i hope GAC don't sell it for that aspect no one should think its cheap but be surprised that it is , it should be market as a reasonably priced car instead of a chep one, people just has a disdain for a cheap reputation, it should be focus on first time buyers looking for something mature
car has nice logo, i think ill buy it
Please, tell me what price?
6 speed Asin(Toyota) trans? If the engine holds up, that could be a winner in terms of the sedan market in terms of reliability.
Please review GAC GS5!
Nice looking car.
This car's exterior looks like a VW Passat, not so much like an Avalon. Inside, it somewhat reminds me of a Genesis G90, but with much less quality of materials and luxurious appearance. As far as the performance goes, it's way below current standards for acceleration. Also, how does it do in crash tests? That's really important in the market. It's a sedan. I don't see many going for it in the USA.
Love your channel. Good quality. Maybe better with less "third person" talking.
The front looks like a 2017-18 Elantra Sport jeez 😂
Please make a review for GAC GS8 Hybrid please
Steve Jobs: "Picasso had a saying -- 'good artists copy; great artists steal' -- and we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."
@SNORKYMEDIA
3 жыл бұрын
and now his products are all made in china
looks good no more vw turbo or DSG for me I learned$$$$
Did anyone note that somewhat flying bicycle at 0:52
It looks like a cross between a Toyota Camry/Avalon and a Volkswagen Passat. The interior looks classy, and the quality, at least on the surface, looks really good. The price is astonishing. Too bad they can't import their vehicles, because they would do what the Koreans have done ...selling impressive cars for less.
If u want an Audi grille but think its too lavish and love your VW passat rear and want a Mercedes benz or sort imterior this is the car for u
I'm subscriber #686.
250hp and 10s to 60mph? how?
@Wheelsboy
3 жыл бұрын
Looks like that was a typo in the script, should have said it had an official 0-100 kmh time of 9 seconds, though media tests put it closer to 8.2 seconds.
@codingcat1836
3 жыл бұрын
That transmission is probably shit. Chinese automakers are late in the game so engine and transmission are probably their weaknesses. They put up more efforts in electric vehicles now than investing too much on techs that are phasing out.
@lukerinderknecht2982
3 жыл бұрын
@@codingcat1836 4:30 he says it's a 6 speed Asin transmission, which is majority owned by Toyota. Quite a reputable company, not some random crap transmission.
Outside, that grille looks gross. Very impressive interior though. Your channel is awesome, keep up the work. What's your story? How come you ended up in China?
@Wheelsboy
3 жыл бұрын
Ethan has been living in China for about 6 years now, brought here by the fact that his efforts to study Chinese were muuuuuch more successful than his efforts at Spanish.
@devilsrighthandman769
3 жыл бұрын
@@Wheelsboy si necesita ayuda con Español, aviseme! Keep up the great work. Awesome channel.
This the Trumpchi that Jeremy Clarkson mocked during TopGear first trip to China
It looks like Audi A4 from the outside, Merc from the inside. Well, it’s good start. Well, build a factory in Mexico 😂
@promiseye4974
3 жыл бұрын
Well.. The interior team of trumpchi are from Mercedes 😂Their team leader also was a part of the team of Mercedes eqs and s series 10years ago
Gorgeous car
Do you know how to change the language?
I never doubt china inovation and technology, my only concern is the reliablility.
@kosia1972
3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry about that you get so many things in your households made by the Chinese
The main thing that Chinese automakers need to enter in the US market is crash safety. If the cars have good structural design they have almost everything covered to enter the US market
@gwsheipang
3 жыл бұрын
I think the recalls will kill them,if not well prepared. It's no joke entering US market.
THIRTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS! And here i was eyeing up Kia and how far they have come as far as value for money goes. This is pretty neat.. Alas i drive a 15 year old Toyota Avalon because i cannot afford a 30 thousand dollar car at the moment haha.
Not complaining cheap plastic bottons. Think about the price you pay for it. A few thousands more for aluminium ones? Sure, go get it.
#1 requirement for success in the American market is proper marketing, and a name like "Trumpchi" is never going to fly.
It all looks and sounds like good value. However, how long will it hold together?. How cheap and poor are the parts you cannot see. Will it fall apart in five years. Is so, then it ain't no Camry challenger.
GAC 😍
the front looks like audi a8!!😎😎👍👍👍
Inmo, Aisin transmission ( made by toyota ) is more reliable than DCT. I hope they source the engine in japan ( like toyota or mazda ) instead of GM engine.
Nothing can beat Toyota reliability, nothing
Looks great inside, better than merc
@sheilashineleofany822
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but he said the quality is still much behind the merc. Only looks
@MrMangeced
3 жыл бұрын
The new S class looks awesome inside, but Mercedes don't make the best insides right now, but new hope with the s class
@yes8032
3 жыл бұрын
MrMangeced oh 😯
How well does it perform in a crash Test? This is what why Chinese cars had problems in the past. Have they finally addressed this issue?
It has Aisin transmission. Great choice.
Like for the outfit!
I think it looks a lot like a Passat.
“TRUMP CHEAT” 😂 🤣
Front of byd song max
do long term
Chinese version of Toyota Avalon but cheaper in comparison I like it. 👍
WTF?..why does Stellantis import and rebadge is fledgling carline.?? Or import Citroen/Peugeots??????
Trumpchi sound like something made by Donald Trump
If this is compared to the Avalon, then this annihilated the Avalon looks
@marlondavis1230
3 жыл бұрын
Nope.
It’s a good looking car but it probably has dollar store quality and also Benz copy cat... which is a total shame because they don’t have their own design language. Outside is copies from Audi/Toyota inside from Benz. They need original design language to be successful and not get sued outside or China
I don't think that I could bring myself to ever buy a car made in China.
@talkinghead8014
3 жыл бұрын
That's what people said about Japanese cars in the 60's and 70's. Who would have thought that now the bestselling car in the US would be Toyota Camry. When the Japan auto industry was starting many people thought they were crazy to try and compete with the mighty US industry. Same deal with Korean cars in the 80s. Absolute trash, now winning awards.
The best part about this car is the Aisin transmission. Japanese (Aisin is specifically Toyota) transmissions are some of the most bulletproof transmissions ever made
Wow, un sac banane en 2020 ? Un voyageur temporel ?
@lukerinderknecht2982
3 жыл бұрын
"Fanny pack" est vraisment "sac banane" en Français? 😂 (Je ne parle pas Français beaucoup)
@Antoineforum
3 жыл бұрын
@@lukerinderknecht2982 Bonjour, oui tout à fait ;-) mais on ne le dit plus du tout depuis la fin des années 90's
@lukerinderknecht2982
3 жыл бұрын
@@Antoineforum merci, je ne savais pas. Je trouve ce mot très drole. 🍌
Can you put a 2020 Toyota Avalon
@ruthosuna7085
3 жыл бұрын
*Next to it
Super beautiful Super,,, super,,,super,,,
hongqi pls!
Great looks.. Avalon and Octavia merged together.
@Kayshots
3 жыл бұрын
Us doesn’t have Skoda lol
Some VW Passat influence at the side and rear..... why aren't the Chinese capable of innovation and orginality? They always just copy.
If an Audi A4 and a VW Arteon had a baby
this looks like a rep off of Lexus
@eriksantoso1741
3 жыл бұрын
But eventually is partnership between toyota and gac.
lmao i dont know how the company translated "Chuan qi“ into "Trump chi" 😂😂😂😂😂
@edwindyap1616
3 жыл бұрын
Because when people see "Chuan" they will pronounce it in many different ways, and "Trump" is really easy to pronounce.
Awesome all GAC sedans used the alfa romeo 166 platform until these days.. i can recognize the shock absorber dome which is the same from the 166. This platforum is really outdated ! It goes back to the alfa 164 the last one sold to the united states ! i understand why those cars are soo cheap..
Chinese are still far behind to come into competition with japanese , german and Korean brands.
It's basically toyota so it can't compromised about reliability
I can see the Mercedes rearend
The question is . Would you get one if you used your own money ?
that thing makes you funny looking.
Trumpchi-bai!
In related news, fanny packs are coming back, I guess.