What If Caesar Wasn't Assassinated?
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Caesar did not die. He escaped to argentina and lived until the late 80s.
@poutykeiki2574
Ай бұрын
And he drove the green falcon
@goku277db
Ай бұрын
He was Italian after all
@Evonas4
29 күн бұрын
Señor Cesar
Ceaser, the character that you kill early in the movie to start the plot
@KaiHung-wv3ul
2 ай бұрын
Literally Shakespeare.
@minestar2247
2 ай бұрын
Well, technically, it's the mid series shake up
@vampiregamingyt8754
2 ай бұрын
Not in Assissins Creed origins.
@Mayflower-Yev
2 ай бұрын
@@minestar2247 The Ceasar arch came first then the company made the prequels.
@wandiriswan6116
2 ай бұрын
Ned stark ass
Great video on if Caesar wasn't assassinated, now do a video on if Caesar was assassinated.
@fonsie_games
2 ай бұрын
how are 14 hours-
@ohmygodjustchilllmao
2 ай бұрын
how the hell is 15 hours-
@Austenthor
2 ай бұрын
@@fonsie_gamesno no he’s right how-
@pohmot9933
2 ай бұрын
@@ohmygodjustchilllmao patreon
@pohmot9933
2 ай бұрын
@@Austenthorpatreon
Re: Caesar supposedly having a plan to conquer Parthia, it's always worth remembering: Plutarch's Parallel Lives was a history-themed self-help book. Every biography was paired up with one Greek and one Roman and the two were compared, and Caesar is paired up with Alexander so we maybe shouldn't be entirely surprised that in a story which is being compared to Alexander we suddenly find that Caesar wants to conquer Persia. In fairness, Caesar's story in the book is one of the most "neutral", but it is the one that's about the uncle/father of the first Emperor, and the current Emperor's great-great-great-grandfather-in-law, so like all of Plutarch's writings you need to take it with a metric ton of salt for anything more than "second century romans probably thought this sounded right".
@primesonic4459
2 ай бұрын
Wait this is the 1st time im hearing about the Roman to Greek aspiring part Cam you list/link the other pairings (if humanity knows them) ?
@fruitshuit
2 ай бұрын
@@primesonic4459 There's 25 pairs and we have all of them at least in part except for one pair. A lot of the pairs include one person who is "less famous", in the sense that you won't have heard of them unless you're really into greek and roman history beyond the stuff that usually gets covered (and that's probably why the pairing doesn't come up in casual reference). For example, Pompey is paired up with Dion, a tyrant who ruled Syracuse. There's a full list of pairs on Wikipedia but notable pairs are Theseus and Romulus, Phyrrus and Marius, and Lysander and Sulla.
@occam7382
2 ай бұрын
@@fruitshuit, I definitely don't think Caesar wanted to conquer Parthia (because that would be ridiculous), but smacking them around a bit, taking some territory in northern Mesopotamia, and reclaiming the legionary standards that were lost at Carrhae would make some golden PR for him when he got back to Rome.
@fruitshuit
2 ай бұрын
@@occam7382 oh yeah, definitely, I agree! that’s pretty much Suetonius’ assessment of the situation and seems much more plausible.
@occam7382
2 ай бұрын
@@fruitshuit, of course, that's assuming he makes it to Parthia within his proposed timeframe. Given the absolute nightmare that Octavius and Agrippa faced during the Illyrian Campaign following Caesar's assassination, I wouldn't be surprised if Caesar spent at least one of his two years pacifying Illyria before he even made a move on Dacia.
I don't know about anyone else, but the whole thing about Octavius' "Great Test" just seems cool as hell. A Mediterranean war for the ages.
What if Caesar was a salad? (Please do a what if everything went perfect for Norway scenario)
@Rex-mr8bw
2 ай бұрын
Western Sweden*
@HornedPandaWasTaken
2 ай бұрын
@@Rex-mr8bw Norway is much cooler than Sweden, sorry
@trevorpapineau7302
2 ай бұрын
I don’t see the connection between Caesar being a salad, and how that would make Norway perfect.
@oppionatedindividual8256
2 ай бұрын
@@HornedPandaWasTaken Danmark >>> Norway >>> Sverige
@mrsillytacos
2 ай бұрын
@Rex-mr8bw keep your Ikeas out of the viking lands bruh
I found a comment that Cesar was thinking to move the capital to Egypt, say Alexandria. Shifting the focus towards the India Ocean and the development of Red Sea Ports and the exploration of Africa. No invasion of Britain or Germania.
@gengarzilla1685
2 ай бұрын
Interesting.
@user-fl5mq9kp7g
2 ай бұрын
Caesar: Romans from the Middle East ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@gamemasterultima
2 ай бұрын
Caesar said I want that 💰
@misaelfraga8196
2 ай бұрын
Would have made the Republic richer Britain always was a financial drain to the empire despite some mines present
@deputyvillageidiot
2 ай бұрын
He also wanted to deflate the Senate
I feel like an "what if everything went perfectly for the Roman Empire" video HAS to start with Caesar surviving, conquering Dacia and then maybe obtaining a medium-level conquest of Persia. Not all of it, but I feel like Rome carving out mesopotamia early on would be both doable and MASSIVELY benefitial (and yes count me as one of the ones who think Hadrian not keeping it was a giant missed opportunity; give up Britain if you need to, it pales in comparison) as it would be a very rich province that would break the parthian trading monopoly (assuming the Romans built a fleet on the persian gulf), colossally weakening any threat from the persian plateau in the future, and further buffer the rich eastern provinces from any persian armies (who could now be much easier stopped in the first place if the romans properly anchor their defensives along the passes through the zagros mountains). From there, have Caesar (after returning to Rome and squashing any resurgent opposition) start the conquest of germania, die after attaining some great victory together with Antony, and have Octavian/Augustus have an easy time both in solidifying his control over Rome and finishing up the conquest up to the Elbe river and (thanks to Dacia) the Carpathian mountains as the Empire's permanent borders, live as long as he did IRL and settle the East militarily after Cleopatra and Caesarion "conveniently" fall out of a window/choke on a fish bone. Oh, and have one of his grandsons survive so that the state keeps being well-led for at least a generation after the first princeps dies. No empire lasts forever, but with the northern borders more secure (with the Rhine and Danube now acting as secondary lines if any force breaches the Elbe/Carpathian lines), the persians weakened and contained on the other side of the Zagros (and poorer without the eastern trade monopoly), and without the massive civil wars that Rome faced IRL after Caesar's death (there'd still be some off course, but not on the scale of 43-30 BC), the Empire is set pretty good to have an even better 1st and 2nd centuries AD than it had in our timeline.
@freewyvern707
2 ай бұрын
For the Roman Empire, probably, but for Rome as a whole I think it starts with Sulla. Specifically, Sulla not setting the precedent for military rule in Rome, which without, Rome would last much longer without its militaristic power struggles.
@irmaosmatos4026
2 ай бұрын
I think it would affect the religious landscape too, with Manichaeism and Zoroastrianism more present in Rome, and a very different christianity in territorial terms. Maybe the gnostics could be more perilous in this timeline. And maybe Christianity expands up to Persia, if the Empire still becomes Christian. No England too, in this timeline, unless something crazy still happens.
@user-fl5mq9kp7g
2 ай бұрын
@@irmaosmatos4026Man, the sect of Mithrid was widespread. The stupid Roman soldiers thought that Mithrid in Persia was a god.
@kairon5249
2 ай бұрын
@@freewyvern707 well, the precedent for military rule was started with Marius, not sulla, when he reformed the army from an army of part-time, land owning plebeians to professional full-time soldiers who had more allegiance to their general than anyone else. What is hard to stomach is that this was a necessary change in order to create the Roman empire, as part time citizen armies weren't capable of establishing and defending rome's massive borders
@thedrinkinggamemaker9749
Ай бұрын
What's to say that after dealing with Caesarion and Sextus, aware of the growing elite opposition, Dictator Octavian won't still look to the brutal wisdom of Sulla?
Suggestion: What if claudius son Brittanicus wasnt assasianted and instead nero died?
@NickZ-zu8jf
2 ай бұрын
They never make a series on brittanicus. He was nobody. I dont even know what are you talking about.
@mappingshaman5280
2 ай бұрын
@NickZ-zu8jf brittanicus was nero's half brother. He tried to rebel against nero as soon as claudius died but he lost and nero killed him
@JastwatchingYT
2 ай бұрын
Nero had no long term effects on Rome, Infact the supposes inadequacies of the emperor are greatly exaggerated. Other than Rome burning (not Nero's fault) it is hard to find physical evidence of anything changing under his reign.
@DistantRainbow
2 ай бұрын
Britannicus was way too young, way too inexperienced when he was killed. A blank slate. Without knowing what kind of man he would have developed into, that question is way too open-ended for a proper prediction.
@John-qd5of
2 ай бұрын
@@NickZ-zu8jf Racine wrote a French play about Britannicus, a talented young man cut down in his prime. He would have been a better emperor. In the play, Britannicus does not see Nero coming for him.
Do what if everything went perfectly for modern Greece
@fonsie_games
2 ай бұрын
how-
@zekdopa591
2 ай бұрын
@@fonsie_games patreons get early access to videos
@Cantfindaname917
2 ай бұрын
@@fonsie_games MEMBER 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@redcrown5154
2 ай бұрын
@@fonsie_games what if they weren't scammed by an international bank
@somehistorynerd
2 ай бұрын
"WE DON'T HVAE CRIPPLING DEBT LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO" - Megali, alt timeline
What if everything went perfectly for Austria after Francis I declared himself Emperor?
@Farrighthungarian
2 ай бұрын
The problem with that is that it's way too predictable : *Danube*
Mad props for pronouncing Cicero right.
I love the fact that I recognise a picture from my Latin test yesterday about Cicero at multiple moments in the video like 9:50.
Great video, I love how balanced it is that it basically means an earlier Roman Empire but it doesn't have everything devolving into a harsh dictatorship like some people say. Although maybe people say that more if the plot is halted at the last second like you mentioned it first.
@occam7382
2 ай бұрын
Caesar wasn't actually that bad of a leader. He made numerous reforms that benefitted the people of Rome, he was incredibly magnanimous towards his rivals (although that was more for practical reasons than idealistic ones), and his time as Dictator was the most stable time in the Roman Republic since the 1st Servile War up until the founding of the Empire under Augustus. What a lot of people didn't like about Caesar was that he basically tried to fashion himself as a king in all but name, and made it pretty obvious. That was something Augustus was much smarter in handling.
BABE WAKE UP POSSIBLE HISTORY JUST DROPPED A VIDEO AND ITS ABOUT THE ROMAN EMPIRE!! 🗣️ 🔥 💯
What a great birthday present, keep up the great work!
@ThatRandomGuy0
2 ай бұрын
Damn, it's my birthday too? Just what I was thinking
Bro this is what i needed im at work dude I appreciate it I love your videos keep up the great work
Crazy! Last night I was looking up videos about this exact subject because of a game I’m playing. You’re always on point with what I need ❤️
@BlackOps2543x
2 ай бұрын
What game made you think of it?
@thelemonofgaming6303
2 ай бұрын
Imperator: Rome?
@frostyonair
2 ай бұрын
I was playing Mount and Blade: Bannerlord, mod with Rome
@BlackOps2543x
2 ай бұрын
@@thelemonofgaming6303 that was my first thought too, but I wasn't sure
>incredibly dictatorial (probably incestuous) dynasty in heavily entrenched power, to the point competing politicians only compete to get favors from them, not even to usurp them. >rulers are old as hell when they die >still have no heirs >civil wars every time a ruler dies >massive waxing and waning of imperial power from ruler to ruler This is CK3 in real life, I love it
What if Hungary won the 1956 revolution. (militarily because it is even more unlikely and that scenario could get even more weird)
@AdvancedGamer-
2 ай бұрын
No because that’s not possible literally
@butterbutter891
2 ай бұрын
Well pp made several unrealistic scenarios for fun@@AdvancedGamer-
@ATeTortenelemPuskad
2 ай бұрын
@@AdvancedGamer- I know, that's the point. Also Althistory isn't realistic anyway so that doesn't matter in my opinion.
@AdvancedGamer-
2 ай бұрын
@@ATeTortenelemPuskad I know but that just would never happen unlike other things that actually could
@AdvancedGamer-
2 ай бұрын
@@butterbutter891 ok but then the video shouldn’t be seen as like an actual not joking Alt history though
He would probably become emperor but mostly likely died from complications of his epilepsy because without any modern medication epilepsy can be fatal.His sizures would only increase in strength until he passed in his sleep and think a read somewhere that was exactly what was starting to happen.
Suggestion for the future video: What if the Roman Empire collapsed because of the Crisis of the Third Century?
This history is very possible. (Possible History certified.)
@paulus121212
Ай бұрын
not really octavia would not of been heir but ceasars son with cleopatra
@thefpstester1293
27 күн бұрын
When the history is conceivable
Good job bro 👍👍
Ah yes The perfect world
What if the Romans invented the printing press (and had access to the supply chain of it) 1. It would be make Rome much more linguistically unified, reducing the various Roman dialects. 2. It would be much more culturally unified as well. 3. It would make the empire deeply integrated in an economic and military sense. 4. The empire would be more enlightened due to lack of dialects and how information can be more widespread with ease. 5. The empire might not have crumbled like in our timeline and might also live into the modern day.
@thefederalbureauofinvestig6467
Ай бұрын
broo what if the frankish empire invented the cell phone
@Jp-ew4mp
Ай бұрын
@@thefederalbureauofinvestig6467You might think of it as a pipe dream, but it actually isn't such an absurd proposal. At this time, China was alredy experimenting with printing prototypes. It's not unlikely that with increased trade between the two, some of these ideas, and maybe some of the actual devices, would have made their way to Rome, where they would probably find greater sucess in, given that the romans lacked the cultural reverence towards caligraphy that was present in China, meaning they probably would have been more willing to work with the idea.
what would have happened had Tsar Alexander III of russia lived longer? Had he lived longer could he prevent the Russo-Japanese War?
@NickZ-zu8jf
2 ай бұрын
Then there would have been anothrr “ alexander the great”. 😊😊😊
I tend to find a lot of what-ifs pretty masturbatory, especially given how unpredictable history can be; like no-one would have guessed Caesar's Great Nephew would have become the First Roman Emperor, likewise no-one could have predicted an Arabic Merchant would form what would become the second largest Religion in the world. You even often find times where genuinely capable leaders fuck-up like Harald Godwinson who otherwise up to losing to William the Conqueror succeeded in nearly endeavour he took up in life. So perhaps Caesar could have succeeded in wide scale campaigns, or perhaps a random arrow would take his life, who knows; in some alternative timeline we'd be asking what would have happened if Caesar was assassinated, we'd never be able to predict it's outcome.
@freewyvern707
2 ай бұрын
nature of the what-of fun exercises. At the end of the day, its just a bit of fun paired with some historical exploration, and it shouldn't be taken too seriously. More than anything, its simply a tool for story telling. Just look at how Kaiserreich: Legacy of the Weltkreig utilises their what-if. Its absolutely "masturbatory" how good the Reichspakt went and how poorly the Entente went (given the syndies), however it creates great gameplay and story telling potential.
yes! more ancient alt-hist please!!!!
thank you for this video 🙏 youre the new alt-history goat
hopium: during octavians rule before he would get the ceasar treatment, a breakthrough in research is suddenly reached leading to the discovery of the steam engine octavian takes credit, making him almost ceasar levels popular weakening his opposition considerably. the industrial revolution kicks of. romes enemies couldnt even pray to god because christianity ist around yet...
Me: (looks at thumbnail) Also me: “nah I think you were playing it safe”
Very interesting analysis
Hoi, Possible History. Ik kijk jouw video’s erg lang en ik vind ze erg leuk en interessant. Ik zit nu in 4vwo en ik wil graag geschiedenis studeren. Bij welke universiteit/hbo studeer jij geschiedenis of studeer je wat anders? En wat doe je bij de universiteit? Ik weet namelijk nog niet waar ik geschiedenis zou willen studeren en wat het inhoud. Waarschijnlijk lees je dit niet, maar ik zou het leuk vinden als hierop kan reageren Groetjes van Sander
Really good depiction of Parthia, it's not often you'll see people display it's tributaries.
This was Great 👍
That was a great video, PH. I absolutely want to seek a follow-up to this scenario following the "Our-Timeline Augustus" path.
Great video
Nope. That's a perfect image! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yes i enjoyed it ❤
Can you do "what if everything went perfectly for italy?" Next?
Nice video
Ok now THIS is epic
Nah this video bout to be fire🗿
What if Operation Valkyrie had succeeded? What if Japan never joined WW2? What if the Romanovs won the Russian Civil War? What if the U.S conquered all of Mexico? What if Japan won the battle of Midway? What if Colonialism never happened?
@dulguunjargal1199
2 ай бұрын
3 Of these are Outright Impossible but would be cool to think about
@ForTheBrotherhood
2 ай бұрын
Romanovs wouldn't win. They had little to no support. They'd have to defeat both sides of the cw.
Ay please do a perfect italy scenario!
rip caesar
Oh thats an interesting topic
Very good
Okay, we’re getting serious Ps: i love your vids theyre really good
Great video as always! Could you please make a video to the question what would happen, if Hitlers assassination by Stauffenberg succeeded?
Week 1 of asking for what if everything went perfectly for Mexico
Please do a what if the ancient kingdom of Israel survived to modern day
Suggestion: what if sigismund III united Sweden and Poland
Had to come watch this on the Ides of March
Could you do a video on what if everything went perfect for Carthage?
Suggestion: what if there was something we could do (Napoleon goes back to france from st helena and wins the 8th coalition)
@user-fl5mq9kp7g
2 ай бұрын
How did he lose most of his army? His army when he was fighting Russia was 700,000 soldiers, and when he withdrew, it was 100,000.
And just when I thought I was out of the thinking-about-Rome phase, they pull me back in
Possible history I have an interesting idea for a possible series you could do basically it would be like this what if insert nation restored the Byzantine Empire like for example what if the Bulgarian Restored Byzantium or if Trebizond was able to restore Byzantium
"I told him, `Julie, don't go!'"
I think there was a time when Byzantium and the Sassanids could have been "friends" during Justinian's time. If I remember correctly the future king of the Sassanids was living in the court of Constantinople when Justinian was there and the Romans offended him and his family something fierce and that probably lead to war later on. So an interesting timeline would be: What if Justinian and Khosrow became friends during his stay in Constantinople? It's not far fetched and it would have changed history a lot since the Sassanid/Byzantine war was a big reason Islam could conquer so much of their lands. Also it would surely help Justinian in his western Rome conquests as well
Love alternative history! I've always wanted to make a Kori style strategy game based on alternative history of America's if Europeans didn't arrive in 16th history.
Make what if everything went perfect for Iran/Persia
Do a If everything went perfect for sweden
Do what if my father came back?
I feel like the question of the initial assassination should be explored, and determined, more thoroughly before you can really explore the rest. If the plot never happens, what then happens with Brutus and the other cospirators? Do they live normal lives from then on, how do Brutus and Octavian interact and does this possibly influence Octavian's relations with Caesar's biological child in Egypt? If the plot happens but fails the dacian and partian campaigns would surely be delayed, maybe not by much but maybe for enough time that the dacians have sorted their own stuff out in relation to the assassineted king and are therefore a tougher challenge, therefore delaying the parthian campaign further. At that point perhaps Caesar dies in Parthia, being older and the Parthians being a very different enemy from the forests of Gaul and the hills of the Balkans.
Imagine love this
It would be better if the music was a little quieter. Other than that great video!
Do a what if everything went perfect for Portugal
Oxtavian would have to make the triumvirate permeate by making the office of Imperator head of state but working with the two counsels and all three offices elective.
There's a beautiful series by Schwerpunkt on Caesar that I strongly recommend
@Kiddo5010
2 ай бұрын
Ill check it out
Idea for another Rome video, what if Ceasar died with Labienus at the battle of Munda?
@occam7382
2 ай бұрын
I mean, then all of the chaos between 44 BCE and 30 BCE just gets move up a year, basically.
Imagine Julius Caesar vs Alexander the Great
what if Novgorod united Russia.
What if Belisarius saved Byzantium?
@user-fl5mq9kp7g
2 ай бұрын
He lost against King Khosrow the Persian, so Justinian expelled him
I have a video idea and i have absolutely no idea if it would even be possible for this to happen, but the idea is: "What if Austria had remained a small german state/ What if Austria hadn't become an empire."
I know Agrippa was a great general but I think in this case it would totaly depent on how unite the opposition would work together.
Pictures made by AI are creepy
I think he would study the defeat of Crassus and invent a formation of legionaries supported by archers and slingers to destry Parthian horse-archers. Also once he notice the capabilities of heavy cataphracts he would implement massivly this unit in roman army. I think Rome would have no more trouble fighting nomad nation.
Could you do a video on what if Austria Hungary survived ww1
For an alt history video idea What if spanish conquest of China was a success
this boutta be a great video also suggestion: what if russia won the russian civil war and allied with the west and cold war never happend/was between russia and usa competing for the strongest democracy
@gregoryturk1275
2 ай бұрын
Didn’t Russia win the Russian civil war???
As historically relevant as Ceasar was, one should ask in its stead what if Alexander II (the Great) had not died in Babylon at 32. Might anyone extrapolate the historical impact of an alternate Alexander who died in his bed at 67? At the very least, upon returning to Macedon, victorious, he would possibly turn his eyes toward the Italic peninsula and Carthage... What would the world look like today?
Invading Dacia was really hard for Trajan , at the height of Roman power. During Burebista , the Dacian "kingdom" was at it's historixal peak. It would not have been so easy.
Great video. Rome expanding that much would have caused an even bigger collapse
Im happy to get here early
I would be interested in a exenshon to this video , sea how the time line goes
But if Caesar survived, I'll have to translate even MORE of that guy in Latin. (it's a pain) Good video tho
Empire vid plz
What songs did you use?
YES THIS IS GOOD!!!!!!!!!!
I don't want a realistic depiction of Caesar not being assassinated, I want to revel in the perfection of what could have been. Would Arminius have been captured and adopted? Would the Illyrian rebellion happen? Could Germania have been pacified under Augustus?
Do what if Sweden won The (Second) Great Northern War
For your consideration: this idea may be too niche to cover in an actual video, maybe a YT short instead, but here it goes. What if European minorities had their own states (like Sorbs, Sami, Cossacks, Donauschwaben, and/or Rromani) Maybe the idea of those cultures getting their own nations becomes more popular after America become more influential in a post-war peace conference, pushing ideas of popular sovereignty? Idk that's just my first inclination to how it might happen, but I'm sure you could come up with something better!
6:52 I know they are the roman empire and all that but what mkaes you think they would be able to win against that irani empire if they ahd previously lost
Happy Idus of March! Coming soon to your calendar... 🤣
What if everything went perfect for brazil?
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When are you gonna do your every late Modern Empire Video?
If Julius Caeser were an Emperor, he would have been the best. Or at least top 3.
@user-fl5mq9kp7g
2 ай бұрын
You mean the worst because he was the first to make military coups that would continue until the fall of the Romans 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂