What if America and Britain Went to War in 1933?

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  • @BurneraccountXD69
    @BurneraccountXD693 күн бұрын

    In a similar vain, here's a thought, what if France and Britain refused to back down during the Suez crisis, and The US and The Soviet Union decided to collaborate militarily against them?

  • @anowarjibbali

    @anowarjibbali

    3 күн бұрын

    *vein. Interesting idea, though.

  • @Turkmenimexican

    @Turkmenimexican

    3 күн бұрын

    It sounds like the Biafra War during the Cold War.

  • @bnw5435

    @bnw5435

    3 күн бұрын

    I think it would just be nuclear war... One of the big reasons for the USA standing on the side of Egypt was because the USSR was threatening NUCLEAR WAR. It may well have been a bluff, but you can imagine the USA would rather risk losing its closest ally than letting said ally bring about the potential end of human civilisation. With hindsight, it was a bit of a dick move by the US, but absolutely was the lesser of two evils. As an interesting side note, another reason the US supported Egypt was the fact that they wanted to leave the door open for nurturing closer ties with the Middle East in future, to keep them away from the Soviets. Of course, with hindsight we now know that such reasoning was pointless years later.

  • @SunilDachmann-mg7mm

    @SunilDachmann-mg7mm

    3 күн бұрын

    Sounds interesting I hope he sees that

  • @coloniser.-

    @coloniser.-

    3 күн бұрын

    i like this idea a lot

  • @Pieteer052
    @Pieteer0523 күн бұрын

    Every Modern Empire isn't even on the list anymore 😭😭😭😭😭

  • @Ulti47

    @Ulti47

    3 күн бұрын

    Is there a timestamp?

  • @The_whales

    @The_whales

    3 күн бұрын

    7:36 it does say it’s still open to change

  • @stryke5729

    @stryke5729

    3 күн бұрын

    We need to make our petition

  • @Ulti47

    @Ulti47

    3 күн бұрын

    @@The_whales Thank you

  • @Maxzes_

    @Maxzes_

    3 күн бұрын

    And the danelaw

  • @SandboxRaptor
    @SandboxRaptor3 күн бұрын

    The UK: You underestimate my power! The US: Don't try it

  • @user-bo6ru6rk3d

    @user-bo6ru6rk3d

    3 күн бұрын

    Britain never really had power after ww1, even in 1939, hence why France fell incredibly quickly during ww1. in realty, both nations lacked any real power on the world stage

  • @SandboxRaptor

    @SandboxRaptor

    3 күн бұрын

    @@user-bo6ru6rk3d Britain did have power just not a lot due to the short time they had, They had a navy that could protect the isle and the RAF to stop the Germans in the battle of Britain i wouldn't say that they were very powerful but they where the 3rd most powerful on the allied side

  • @Noahshistoryandmapping

    @Noahshistoryandmapping

    3 күн бұрын

    ⁠@@SandboxRaptorthe only reason America and the USSR were strong after the war is because America had money given to it by Britain and free france because the ussr was only around 6th strongest on earth and the USA was around 5th

  • @justinsutton5005

    @justinsutton5005

    3 күн бұрын

    ​@Noahshistoryandmapping you got that backwards. The US has to offer massive discounts to Britain before the US joined. The US is fabulously rich.

  • @countryballsfan-ph

    @countryballsfan-ph

    Күн бұрын

    Can anyone please share me a link to possible history discord

  • @Slashkig
    @Slashkig3 күн бұрын

    Wake up babe, new Possible History just dropped

  • @void_fruit212

    @void_fruit212

    3 күн бұрын

    Bro what are you talking about I'm your roommate

  • @gwynnfawkx

    @gwynnfawkx

    3 күн бұрын

    ​@@void_fruit212 talking about me dw

  • @ciklopapakklo7002

    @ciklopapakklo7002

    3 күн бұрын

    oke

  • @countryballsfan-ph

    @countryballsfan-ph

    Күн бұрын

    Can anyone please share me link to possible history discord

  • @wouter-jansen
    @wouter-jansen3 күн бұрын

    It's just too late for Britain. Sure, they were at their territorial peak, but the British Empire was already in decline for a long time before that, whilst the US was on the rise.

  • @alfieskubala2004

    @alfieskubala2004

    3 күн бұрын

    Check your spelling please 😂

  • @MCLegend13

    @MCLegend13

    3 күн бұрын

    That’s irrelevant the Americans are fighting against Britain and Japan combined in a two front naval war. Navy’s number 1 and 3 would easily decimate number 2 before it ever could hope to reach number 1. That’s not even taking into account the possibility of France’s entry.

  • @kurocchi5190

    @kurocchi5190

    3 күн бұрын

    @@MCLegend13And that gives them the opportunity to properly win the war in America how? That gives them the opportunity to retake Canada?

  • @kurocchi5190

    @kurocchi5190

    3 күн бұрын

    Despite the importance of Canada America wasn’t completely an overseas America, even if the UK and Japan win the Naval war it overall would be an unnecessary war

  • @MCLegend13

    @MCLegend13

    3 күн бұрын

    @@kurocchi5190 they couldn’t retake Canada but what I’m saying is it’s impossible for America to take anything else. Britain would enforce a naval Blockade of the Atlantic and America couldn’t send its entire navy to break the blockade as Japan would be making repaid gains in the pacific. And if France joins the war it seals the deal for America on the seas their global trade would be devastated. In the end both sides would be to sick of the war and sue for a peace Britain would loose Canada in exchange Britain and France gain the American Caribbean and Japan gets the Philippines and splits the American pacific holdings with the dominions of Australia and Newzealand.

  • @paulharveu526
    @paulharveu5263 күн бұрын

    Please do a scenario where as part of the Russian sale of Alaska, the US and Russia sign a mutual defense pact against UK and Japan. People don't realize that Russia and US both had concerns about both, and that the UK and Japan where very close between the 1870s and 1920s

  • @paulharveu526

    @paulharveu526

    3 күн бұрын

    This would really go smooth until the Russo-Japan war; and the constant thread of the UK joining in.

  • @Joobaiyes

    @Joobaiyes

    3 күн бұрын

    Yeah, it’s kinda ironic looking back at the closeness of two natioms who today despise eachother

  • @RockSolitude

    @RockSolitude

    3 күн бұрын

    @@Joobaiyes OP didn't say Russia and US were close. He said they had "mutual concerns" which means a hot load of nothing in reality.

  • @kalash1167

    @kalash1167

    3 күн бұрын

    ​@@Joobaiyes Britain and Japan, Japan and China, USA and the Soviet Union. Etc.

  • @_jawad.jabir.

    @_jawad.jabir.

    3 күн бұрын

    @@Joobaiyesthey only despise each other thanks to the USSR

  • @lynxgirlpaws
    @lynxgirlpaws3 күн бұрын

    "This video explores a purely hypothetical scenario" yes,,, this is an alternate history video,,, this is what I am here for king

  • @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV
    @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV3 күн бұрын

    When there's a really unrealistic scenario I always imagine someone timetravelling specifically to change it. This was for sure done by a bunch of drunk interns from America, England, Canada and one guy from Portugal who were arguing about who'd win and happened to be just lucky and persuasive enough to test it out.

  • @The_Only_Pickle
    @The_Only_Pickle3 күн бұрын

    Dude I love how the maps look I don’t even know how to explain it, they just tingle my brain so much

  • @abewright1713

    @abewright1713

    2 күн бұрын

    Real

  • @countryballsfan-ph

    @countryballsfan-ph

    Күн бұрын

    Can anyone please share me link to possible history discord

  • @perturabo7825
    @perturabo78253 күн бұрын

    Imagine in this timeline Germany invites America to the axis due to their mutual enemies instead of Japan.

  • @raedwulf7623

    @raedwulf7623

    Күн бұрын

    More likely the UK allied with Germany

  • @Stuffedcrust10

    @Stuffedcrust10

    14 сағат бұрын

    And then Japan joins allies, China joins axis 😮. Wonder how this changes the Pacific and Soviet-German war

  • @epiclazerpie1630
    @epiclazerpie16303 күн бұрын

    this 100% needs a continuation, what a dope scenario

  • @savedata1987

    @savedata1987

    3 күн бұрын

    What really needs a continuation is the WW2 three way war video

  • @riazortho

    @riazortho

    3 күн бұрын

    More like what a sad scenario

  • @guycrew3973

    @guycrew3973

    3 күн бұрын

    @@savedata1987threesome*

  • @MCLegend13

    @MCLegend13

    3 күн бұрын

    It’s very inaccurate if you understand basic naval history and military logistics. Also America after taking Canada and causing the Indian to revolt for independence they would eventually just wait till Britain exhausts itself and just force them to sign a peace Britain would be. Il give you my continuation. Britain after loosing Canada and India would fall to Facsim under King Edward The 8th and Oswald Mosley. The British Empire would ally with the Third Reich and Italian state in order for them to maintain their still massive African, Middle Eastern and Far Eastern empire. The dominions of Australia and Newzealand have similar government changes as does South Africa. The 3 remaining dominions form their own alliance with Britain and the weakened but still not quite out Japan who now are just as extremist as Europe. France would fall under civil war shortly after Spains one finished but the Facist would win easily thanks to being militarily aided by Spain, Italy, Germany and Britain. All 4 European Facists along side Spain, Greece, Portugal Hungary, and Bulgaria, all form the Axis. And begin planning their expansion goals. They would adjust borders of Europe with French expansion into Belgium and Luxembourg, German Expansion into Austria, Czechoslovakia, Denmark and Poland, Italian Expansion into Yugoslavia and most of Albania. British Expansion into Ireland, Iceland and Norway, which Sweden too would take some of. Bulgarian expansion into Macedonia and parts of Romania. And Greek expansion into parts of Yugoslavia and the rest of Albania. And Hungarian expansion into the rest of Yugoslavia and Transylvania. WW2 would officially begin as the Euro Soviet War With Japan siding with Europe against the Soviets. And America would remain neutral but possibly eventually join after British and Japanese do an attack on the pacific fleet at Pearl Harbour and the Atlantic fleet in US Occupied former British colony of Bermuda. Americas Navy on both coasts is completely knocked out of the war for atleast half a year allowing for Britain and Japan to go rampant in the Atlantic and pacific. Not sure how to go from there give me some ideas?

  • @Canada_Goose
    @Canada_Goose3 күн бұрын

    What if Alaska was sold to Lichtenstein. Russia originally offeres Alaska to the landlocked(at the time, it is now double landlocked meaning it only borders landlocked nations) micro nation of Lichenstein, and they understandably declined.

  • @bobbytate3969
    @bobbytate39693 күн бұрын

    If the americans avoid a naval battle wouldn't britian just raid the coast so if they protect the coast a naval battle would happen , I believe that the USA wouldn't have a wipeout win especially if japan is helping. I believe that at least, this would be a 1816 scenario

  • @sovietdominion

    @sovietdominion

    3 күн бұрын

    I would surely see the UK try a Pearl harbour style attack

  • @smc912

    @smc912

    3 күн бұрын

    you mean 1812?

  • @somerandompersonidk2272

    @somerandompersonidk2272

    3 күн бұрын

    @@sovietdominion Which, is what they did against Italy OTL at Taranto before Pearl Harbour.

  • @sovietdominion

    @sovietdominion

    3 күн бұрын

    @@somerandompersonidk2272 exactly

  • @RandyrheBlackKnight

    @RandyrheBlackKnight

    2 күн бұрын

    The reason that wouldn't happen is the British Fleet was too Heavy, they'd doctrinally married themselves to the Idea of a Decisive battle. And bringing their Heavy ships that close to the East Coast which was already dotted with Air Bases would just be suicide. And because they'd focused so much effort on the Heavy ships. They didn't have enough Crusiers and down (which was a MASSIVE part of lend lease that gets overlooked) meaning detaching enough of those ships for that kind of raid would leave them in the same scenario. Their Heavyweights completely exposed to American retaliation. It's the same reason they got mauled by the IJN in WWII the British hyperfocus on large Decisive Battles left their fleet without the ability to actually adapt and dangerously vulnerable to anyone who didn't want to play that game. Which being fair to the British here, was the right choice, as their navy at the time was mostly focused on Countering the German Navy who were equally obsessed over Decisive Battles. The Royal Navy as policy had a "Do Not get into that fight" stance on the IJN and USN. As for the Japanese here, it's basically just the Pacific Front half a decade earlier. The IJN of 1936 had the exact same issues as the IJN WWII, they've just got more logistical wiggle room here. War Plan Orange, already called for just cutting off the IJA and IJN and letting them wither on the Vine, except here there's not really a massive Logistical Wack a Mole for the USN to deal with in the Atlantic. In fact Potential History is being VERY Generous with the British here, because their IRL plan wasn't just "Don't reinforce Canada" it was "Bribe the US with Canada so we don't have to fight them." THAT'S how poorly British High Command actually rated their chances of winning a Prolonged War with the US at the time.

  • @danever159
    @danever1593 күн бұрын

    Man this format worked.

  • @LegionCinema
    @LegionCinema3 күн бұрын

    What if France held on to it's Colonial empire

  • @eddie2913

    @eddie2913

    3 күн бұрын

    it has

  • @Tommuli_Haudankaivaja

    @Tommuli_Haudankaivaja

    3 күн бұрын

    Even harder?

  • @savedata1987

    @savedata1987

    3 күн бұрын

    @@Tommuli_HaudankaivajaIm hard

  • @carterlok

    @carterlok

    3 күн бұрын

    ​@@savedata1987why are you and eddie white

  • @JohnRandoSmith

    @JohnRandoSmith

    3 күн бұрын

    A best case scenario might start with a big colonial reform right after WW1. It could be motivated by realpolitk and recognition of colonial troops achievements in the war. Avoiding the humiliation of capitulation in WW2 is a must have. Temporarily moving the capital in Alger would mitigate this issue and justify further reforms for the French colonial Empire. By playing its cards right, France could end up with some sort of loose commonwealth of Nations in Africa / Asia. Keeping Algeria as proper France would be hard, but possible IMO. Especially if France is ready to only keep parts of it. It would involve recognising and dividing the local Arabs/Berbers, increasing european settlement and maybe giving up chunks of the country preventively : idealy by keeping the coastline and adding Arab / Kabyles / Minor Berber states to the aforementioned commonwealth.

  • @Lekuwadian
    @Lekuwadian3 күн бұрын

    Possible history has just posted another video (my day has been made)

  • @atesemireltutar6661
    @atesemireltutar66613 күн бұрын

    You should have considered an alternative Axis with Brtiain.

  • @Jacky-zt5ch
    @Jacky-zt5ch3 күн бұрын

    US and UK: Went to War in 1933 Hitler who just came to power: bruh

  • @MCLegend13

    @MCLegend13

    3 күн бұрын

    Want a fun fact he actually thought this would actually happen but wanted Britain to win.

  • @randombritishperson.

    @randombritishperson.

    Күн бұрын

    ​@@MCLegend13He also thought we would be allied with him.

  • @frogmann9540
    @frogmann95403 күн бұрын

    I believe that some of the naval aspects of this sanario are inaccurate. One of these is the absence of the Panama canal, which would have been needed to transfer the US naval units from each seabord. The other is that the shipbuilding graph ignores the difference in size of drydocks which limits what can be built. This means that in terms of capital ships it is likely that the uk and Japan can keep up which with their fleet dispersed means an atlantic campaign by the Americans l would be less decisive than indicated by this video.

  • @stargazer-elite

    @stargazer-elite

    3 күн бұрын

    The US still controlled the Panama Canal

  • @mihel1640

    @mihel1640

    3 күн бұрын

    ​​​@@stargazer-eliteBut the british could seize the Panama canal early on.

  • @stargazer-elite

    @stargazer-elite

    3 күн бұрын

    @@mihel1640 this would be on Americas side of the pond they would already have it fortified

  • @Phrogoid

    @Phrogoid

    3 күн бұрын

    @@stargazer-eliteIf Britain invades the Panama Canal very early in the war, it’ll cause 1 of 2 scenarios to happen: 1. The US Fleet sails out to meet the British Fleet, successfully creating the conditions for the decisive naval battle Britain was looking for. 2. The US doesn’t attempt to contest the British fleet, resulting in the canal falling and the US fleet being effectively split in half. Neither scenario is good for the US

  • @MCLegend13

    @MCLegend13

    3 күн бұрын

    @@Phrogoid well said sir well said. Yeah if this war happened a decade later I 100% agree with all the points Possible history said but this is the early 1930s not the 1940s.

  • @RockSolitude
    @RockSolitude3 күн бұрын

    It wouldn't be a Possible History video if it didn't get half the things wrong :x

  • @SquidMonke4

    @SquidMonke4

    3 күн бұрын

    Whats wrong with

  • @imlivingunderyourbed7845

    @imlivingunderyourbed7845

    3 күн бұрын

    ​@@SquidMonke4He never mentioned the Panama canal, and blocking it would cut the US Navy in half and deprive the Atlantic fleet from a lot of reinforcements since most of the US's ship building are in the West coast.

  • @761sttankbattalion

    @761sttankbattalion

    3 күн бұрын

    ​@@imlivingunderyourbed7845 with Canada Invasion, surely they would plan to fortify Panama Canal and UK would have more on their hands than attempting a distant invasion under US Naval supremacy. So Panama Canal can be left out I guess

  • @imlivingunderyourbed7845

    @imlivingunderyourbed7845

    3 күн бұрын

    @@761sttankbattalion They don't need to land troops into Panama. Just blockading the canal even from one side is enough to freeze the flow of ships there.

  • @beanymcgill8360

    @beanymcgill8360

    3 күн бұрын

    theres literally no way he can 100% accurately predict what would have happened because it didn’t happen, THATS THE POINT

  • @lucasmackay8958
    @lucasmackay89583 күн бұрын

    So basically, Asia gets the good ending and Europe gets the bad ending

  • @JLAvey

    @JLAvey

    3 күн бұрын

    I think Europe was always going to get a bad ending.

  • @ayeeeeeeee6240

    @ayeeeeeeee6240

    3 күн бұрын

    Asia and America tbh

  • @MCLegend13

    @MCLegend13

    3 күн бұрын

    If you understand naval history and infrastructure you’d understand that America didn’t start their huge build up thill the early 40s this is still the early 30s so it’s hardly accurate plus Britain and Japan combined easily would out match the American navy of the 30s.

  • @mrsillytacos

    @mrsillytacos

    3 күн бұрын

    @@ayeeeeeeee6240 nah at least Trudeau wouldn't become president, would take Biden over him any day.

  • @MegaDuck3

    @MegaDuck3

    3 күн бұрын

    @@MCLegend13 Lime detected

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado34303 күн бұрын

    Oh boy. Britain is in for a ROUGH time

  • @MCLegend13

    @MCLegend13

    3 күн бұрын

    On land yes but on sea ask the Germans French, or Spanish what happens

  • @Kakarot64.

    @Kakarot64.

    3 күн бұрын

    ​@@MCLegend13 Plus how much of America's industry and population centers were in battleship shelling range at the time pre 1940's America still needs time to ramp up its capabilities that will be seriously hampered if they get shelled.

  • @MCLegend13

    @MCLegend13

    3 күн бұрын

    @@Kakarot64. exactly pre 1940s America needs at least half a decade or more to fully ramp up. And let’s not even begin to talk about American logistics at this period.

  • @mrsillytacos

    @mrsillytacos

    3 күн бұрын

    @@MCLegend13 Still, Britain can basically only win the naval war, and the RAF can't bomb much of the U.S. Industry. Also, even if Britain destroyed the navy, the U.S. would just rebuild the navy, and as said, makes it a more and more unwinnable war for the British.

  • @MCLegend13

    @MCLegend13

    3 күн бұрын

    @@mrsillytacos I mean most of the american build up didnt happen untill the early 40s. and if Japans on Britains side that equalises the gap even if America builds up massivley. not to mention britain has the most advanced and Experienced Naval Infrastucture in the world. they too could easily respond to any american build up in the same way they did with Germany. and thats before you even take into account the japanese 8 8 program. Britain alone sure they may loose but the Anglo Japanese Alliance easliy could win you will never be able to convince me other wise.

  • @reubenwagner
    @reubenwagner3 күн бұрын

    Genuinely love how your maps get increasing detailed each video as you have more time to increase accuracy

  • @_Zof
    @_Zof3 күн бұрын

    What if the uk built an indestructible bridge to france in 1935?

  • @DinoRicky

    @DinoRicky

    3 күн бұрын

    Whatcha mean

  • @_Zof

    @_Zof

    3 күн бұрын

    With land

  • @DinoRicky

    @DinoRicky

    3 күн бұрын

    @@_Zofwell…… Wouldn’t it be invaded before the world wars and not exist?

  • @_Zof

    @_Zof

    3 күн бұрын

    @@DinoRickychanged it

  • @alicorn3924

    @alicorn3924

    3 күн бұрын

    I don't think that's... y'know, Possible History..?

  • @Roman-fg4nf
    @Roman-fg4nf3 күн бұрын

    The problem i see with this scenario is that yes, the Americans have a better industry, but since it was mainly on the coast or directly bordering Canada, it could have been crippled at the beginning of the conflict. And if the US were the one attacking, the probability for Britain getting support from other countries would be greater.

  • @MCLegend13

    @MCLegend13

    3 күн бұрын

    Tbh even if the Canadians started conflict the Americans genuinely planned to use chemical weapons against the civilian targets so Britain would at least get France on its side maybe if promised some of the American Caribbean holdings. And potentially Italy if promised that Britain and France wouldn’t oppose any Italian expansion into Yugoslavia, or Albania or Abyssinia. Japan is for sure joining to get the Philippines and as much of the American Pacific as possible. And as for Germany the Austrian painter saw war between Britain and America as inevitable but wanted Britain to win. So yeah Britains fine. 4 of the big 5 of the Washington naval treaty even if America has its huge naval build up to eclipse Britain. But Britain and Japan together easily stand a chance and adding in France and Italy would easily tip the balance. Thats not even taking into account that the 🇬🇧 Royal Navy, 🇯🇵 Imperial Navy, 🇮🇹 Regia Marina and 🇫🇷 Marine National would all be responding with ships of their own. not to mention with everyone distracted with America Germany would be quietly building away and making the 🇩🇪 Kreigsmarine larger too tho probably not by much as their infrastructure couldn’t support much. And who knows maybe even they join just to show good will to Britain and in order to distract them from their own plans. It wouldn’t be a fun war for America even if it’s just Britain and Japan alone if just one other European country allies with Britain it becomes a nightmare Let alone multiple European countries.

  • @JahkiCary

    @JahkiCary

    3 күн бұрын

    ​@@MCLegend13is it possible for the Soviet union to join on America's side in this war?

  • @JahkiCary

    @JahkiCary

    3 күн бұрын

    ​@@MCLegend13and I think it would be more like china, us, Soviet union vs Britain, Canada, France, Italy and Germany.

  • @MCLegend13

    @MCLegend13

    3 күн бұрын

    @@JahkiCaryand Japan

  • @MCLegend13

    @MCLegend13

    3 күн бұрын

    @@JahkiCarytbh if that happened the war would be such a stalemate that in the end everyone would get so exhausted everyone would just call for a cease fire because. Yes The USA, USSR, China and possibly the recently a rebelling India are huge in population and land area but the other side inn doubtably has the larger navy and adding all of Europes factory’s they are probably the bigger industry too. So it would just end up being a huge stalemate with millions upon millions dead.

  • @gilanorodrigues7049
    @gilanorodrigues70493 күн бұрын

    This is absolutely great i am hyped for the Next episodes

  • @geo.m1639

    @geo.m1639

    3 күн бұрын

    Yes apart from the fact where America magically makes a huge Navy about a decade before the could in ww2 and during the Great Depression…

  • @MCLegend13

    @MCLegend13

    3 күн бұрын

    @@geo.m1639 exactly the two ocean naval act wasn’t even a thing until after Japan left the Second London Naval Treaty in 1937 using the escalator cause. Also the new built ship yards and dockyards and other infrastructure wouldn’t be properly finished and constructed till the early 40s and This is 1933. Half of the newer American ships wouldn’t have even begun construction yet and as for Britain the only ships they wouldn’t have access to is the KGVs as they too didn’t begin construction till a few years later.

  • @gilanorodrigues7049

    @gilanorodrigues7049

    2 күн бұрын

    Dang Your right​@@MCLegend13

  • @LT.KiraHertling1701
    @LT.KiraHertling17013 күн бұрын

    This was very good here. It might be interesting to explore later some of the other colorful war plans of the United States, such as War Plan Orange against the Empire of Japan and War Plan Black against the German Empire. Or the war plans for the invasion of the United States and the United Kingdom by the German Empire.

  • @Mega417
    @Mega4173 күн бұрын

    Please continue this its super interesting

  • @PhilosoShysGameChannel
    @PhilosoShysGameChannel3 күн бұрын

    Love It! More Of This Timeline Please! ^^

  • @Depressugar
    @Depressugar3 күн бұрын

    UK: Is seen as the bad guy for invading Ireland Canada getting invaded by the US at the start of the war for no reason: Am I a joke to you?

  • @stargazer-elite
    @stargazer-elite3 күн бұрын

    This would lead to a very different and interesting world perhaps a part 2 to explore this idea?

  • @lordInquisitor

    @lordInquisitor

    3 күн бұрын

    He mentioned at the end that that he will continue the scenario with the focus being a nazi vs soviet war without us intervention

  • @MCLegend13

    @MCLegend13

    3 күн бұрын

    @@lordInquisitorBritain would be Facist as they would be vengeful at America for the loss of Canada and India. under pro German king Edward the 8th and pro German and Italian prime minister Oswald Mosley. They would want to maintain their still vast African + Middle and Far Eastern Empire. Also forget the part where he said America would strip Australia and New Zealand away from the empire they would realistically just give up the war after Taking Canada and causing India’s independence and just fight till Britain eventually exhausts itself and backs off. France would become facist too as they are surrounded by Fascists in Germany, Italy, Spain and now Britain too. The French would likely fall under a civil war similar to Spain as they were pretty unstable at the time. But because they are surrounded the Facist would win in France. Europe would be a completely facist or nationalist continent apart from Ireland, Poland, the Baltics, Benelux, and Scandinavia. As the only surviving democracy’s left.

  • @abewright1713
    @abewright17132 күн бұрын

    Great video

  • @PintoBeean
    @PintoBeean3 күн бұрын

    What if you continued this alternate universe and explore a different world war 2 and cold war

  • @WafSyir
    @WafSyir3 күн бұрын

    You should really continue this scenario! It seems like it would make a great video

  • @horatiuscocles8052
    @horatiuscocles80523 күн бұрын

    You HAVE to continue this scenario !!

  • @Turkmenimexican
    @Turkmenimexican3 күн бұрын

    We need “If history Went perfect for Mexico”!

  • @demarcomixon

    @demarcomixon

    3 күн бұрын

    It would be annexed into America. Lol

  • @Turkmenimexican

    @Turkmenimexican

    3 күн бұрын

    @@demarcomixon with the crazy amount of Mexicans in the US, I think that will not be possible

  • @Turkmenimexican

    @Turkmenimexican

    3 күн бұрын

    @@demarcomixon cuz we are proud cartellians

  • @Turkmenimexican

    @Turkmenimexican

    3 күн бұрын

    @@demarcomixon 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽

  • @Waffles435

    @Waffles435

    3 күн бұрын

    ⁠@@Turkmenimexicanproud cartels more like 😂

  • @sanchez3138
    @sanchez31382 күн бұрын

    Really interesting scenario that could be explored more if it wasn't so hard to predict what could happen next. Honestly still my favorite alt-history channel since I discovered you about a year ago.

  • @LesRealLlama
    @LesRealLlama3 күн бұрын

    What a fun video to watch first thing in the afternoon! W ❤️

  • @Aflac7020
    @Aflac70203 күн бұрын

    7:34 what if estonia had captured st.petersburg thank you for putting that on the planning board ive personally wanted a video about that for a while

  • @tenshihinanawi4546

    @tenshihinanawi4546

    3 күн бұрын

    I'd liked to see that scenario. It wouldn't make the whites win the civic war so easy, since most of the red moved to Moscow, and most of industrial capacity were in central Russia, but it will cripple their morale and naval force, whom played first role in revolution, and not last in fight in the Baltic

  • @catherineharrison8626

    @catherineharrison8626

    2 күн бұрын

    @@tenshihinanawi4546 When Estonia was nearing St. Petersburg, the civil war had already ended. The soviets had won and wanted to retake Estonia, but many White Russians defected to Estonia, which helped them push close to the city. It may have restarted the civil war however.

  • @ooeysi
    @ooeysi3 күн бұрын

    2:58 Is that a Serbian flag in the corner of the waving flag?

  • @moderpiglin2174

    @moderpiglin2174

    3 күн бұрын

    True looks like it

  • @kjmaps
    @kjmaps3 күн бұрын

    Great video!

  • @fishwithagodcomplex
    @fishwithagodcomplex3 күн бұрын

    i need a part 2 plz papa possible 🙏😭

  • @rewriting-history
    @rewriting-history3 күн бұрын

    Bulgariaaaa

  • @MericaMaps

    @MericaMaps

    3 күн бұрын

    Bulgariaaaaa

  • @Hahatomato

    @Hahatomato

    3 күн бұрын

    Bulgariaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  • @bird5993

    @bird5993

    3 күн бұрын

    Bulgaria :)

  • @loui2bolus265

    @loui2bolus265

    3 күн бұрын

    Nah but bulgaria is cooked in that world😭

  • @4realm8rusirius

    @4realm8rusirius

    3 күн бұрын

    What the fuck is political stabilityyyyyy!? 🦁🦁🦁

  • @michaelchristy506
    @michaelchristy5063 күн бұрын

    I will keep asking for this funny idea :) Instead of “what if Germany kept trying” do “what if France kept trying” 1871 - France loses Franco Prussian war, cedes Alsace Laurene to Germany 1914-1919 - France’s loses the weltkreig, and cedes the border region of Alsace, cedes Nancy, dunkirk, and Lillie, while Germany annexes Luxembourg and the all the land up to the Meuse river, while making a puppet of Belgium. Also France ends up undergoing a far left revolution and the original government flees to Africa 1939-1945 - France loses the second weltkrieg, and cedes the area around Calais and up to Amiens, which is given to Germanys Belgian puppet. France’s original government is restored to power under restrictions 1948 - France loses 3rd weltkreig, forced to cede the Lorraine plateau behind the cities of Nancy and Metz, and also cedes all of the French alps to Italy, while Switzerland also gains land up to annecy, furthermore, britanny gains full independence while France itself becomes a complete puppet government of Germany, permanently.

  • @FdotsgtCIIR
    @FdotsgtCIIR3 күн бұрын

    1:08 Is it known why there is a blur bar between 'the' and 'company'?

  • @adalsal816
    @adalsal8163 күн бұрын

    Man, this new season of Red Vs Blue is wild.

  • @MaQuackers
    @MaQuackers3 күн бұрын

    What if The Paris Commune Suceeded?

  • @henrikstoraker826
    @henrikstoraker8263 күн бұрын

    Please make every modern empire video

  • @evanhubbard8776
    @evanhubbard87762 күн бұрын

    Can you do a what if everthing went perfect for imperial Japan video?

  • @Tiex2248
    @Tiex22483 күн бұрын

    Can you do this but around 1900? I think it would be a lot more interesting to see ww1 develope around this conflict

  • @r3b0rn_mike117
    @r3b0rn_mike1173 күн бұрын

    Please continue the scenario as a mini series with this new German Soviet scenario please! Maybe with both choices between a prepared France or still the one in our timeline too

  • @owenfarmer1588
    @owenfarmer15883 күн бұрын

    6:23 : paradox deciding how big to make iwo jim’s in hoi4

  • @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV
    @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV3 күн бұрын

    Hey! You're still working on Every Modern Empire, right?

  • @mystic9847
    @mystic98473 күн бұрын

    19 views in 2 minutes? Bro is famous.

  • @danielyoutubechannel407
    @danielyoutubechannel4073 күн бұрын

    I thought that said "1833" and you were going to do one about the pig war

  • @ISAF_Ace
    @ISAF_Ace3 күн бұрын

    I have to disagree with this thinking here. Japan would almost certainly join the war, and the UK would immediately hit Panama from British Honduras or the West Indies. This would essentially cut the US fleet in half, and with most of their shipbuilding concentrated on the pacific side, the UK could easily reinforce Canada via the Atlantic. Even on the Pacific side, Japan could fairly quickly hit Alaska, and Hawaii would fall quickly. Throw imperial troops and Japanese troops into Canada, and the fact that the UK and Japanese would almost certainly have air dominance with their more advanced air forces, I don't see any way the US could realistically win this scenario. If the war was postponed for 3-4 more years, then I don't see any way the US could lose, but from 33 its a sure-fire UK-Japanese win.

  • @guycrew3973

    @guycrew3973

    3 күн бұрын

    Doesn’t really change the outcome there’s no way that the us surrenders early

  • @IdanGhengis

    @IdanGhengis

    3 күн бұрын

    One thing you missed Canada whould have been knocked out and an proper invasion will mean bankrupting the empire

  • @floor737
    @floor7373 күн бұрын

    What if Norway and Denmark Went to War in 1933? (Not an impossible scenario for once) (Please do a what if everything went perfect for Norway scenario)

  • @DJZZ__
    @DJZZ__3 күн бұрын

    Great video, a video idea I have would be What if Britain accepted peace with Germany in 1940 after the fall of France

  • @BaconLover100
    @BaconLover1003 күн бұрын

    I dont know if this would be your style, but I'd like to hear you analyze some of the nations that could've (Brazil and India) been UNSC Permanent Members, and some others that have been working for it recently. I know Brazil, India, Japan and Germany have all been pushing for seats recently. For the Brazil and India thing, VERY early on while the plans were being worked on, the USSR wanted a country that would also say no to the US along side it, because it was the USSR, USA, UK and the Republic of China at the time, and before France, america offered to appoint Brazil to the UNSC. For India, instead of the PRC taking Taiwans spot on the UNSC, America offered to instead change its spot for India, but India said no.

  • @Melnek1
    @Melnek13 күн бұрын

    I am very skeptical about the notion that Canada would be able to hold the front for years, yes a few months of hard fighting, and then collapse. On another front, your scenario for some reason disregards the UK's ability to gain allies in Europe, I highly doubt that only Portugal would join the UK, I believe that the conditions that made the war between the UK and the USA possible will also bring France into the equation, not to mention that Hitler Germany would enthusiastically support the UK even without direct entry into the conflict, in any case, wars between great powers have the tendency to drag small neutrals, so it is inevitable that colonial positions of Holland and Denmark in the Americas and Asia will see combat too, ironically, this could end up becoming a war between the small imperialist powers of Europe and Japan against the continental giants of the USA, USSR and China!

  • @ataturkiyeli_
    @ataturkiyeli_3 күн бұрын

    Make a video about What if bojinka plot succeeded

  • @stevenkanyi2646
    @stevenkanyi26463 күн бұрын

    You can't just leave it like if you don't make a part 2 I am gonna 😢 cry

  • @maplemirage7522
    @maplemirage75223 күн бұрын

    I'd be very interested to see this scenario, but in the context of the "3 North American Superpowers" Scenario or at least between a stronger Canada + Empire and United States

  • @bnw5435
    @bnw54353 күн бұрын

    Who else thinks that this scenario is leading into "what if 1984 actually happened" especially with PH mentioning a 'dystopian scenario' at the ens of the vid? 👀

  • @user-lr4nr6es2d
    @user-lr4nr6es2dКүн бұрын

    Please, make an scenario in which the USSR and the British Empire went to war around 1930s.

  • @swarmsheppard
    @swarmsheppard3 күн бұрын

    Very fascinating scenario 👏

  • @53kenner
    @53kenner3 күн бұрын

    Of course, there's lots of reasons to plan wars against your friends. It makes you examine all kinds of potentially useful possibilities that you might not consider when studying your enemies. It can be useful in aiding your if your ally if it is attacked since you had to really examine their strengths and weaknesses. Military staffs need to stay in practice. You may find weaknesses in your military, or your allies, that might have been overlooked. And so on...

  • @goldenfiberwheat238
    @goldenfiberwheat2383 күн бұрын

    The ending is an interesting idea for a hoi4 mod

  • @Andurianski
    @Andurianski2 күн бұрын

    USA Trade offer to Soviets: I get: Asia you get: Central & Eastern Europe

  • @enguerrandleblanc2399
    @enguerrandleblanc23993 күн бұрын

    Do a second part please 😢

  • @michaelchristy506
    @michaelchristy5063 күн бұрын

    I will keep asking for this Instead of “what if Germany kept trying” do “what if France kept trying” 1871 - France loses Franco Prussian war, cedes Alsace Laurene to Germany 1914-1919 - France’s loses the weltkreig, and cedes the border region of Alsace, cedes Nancy, dunkirk, and Lillie, while Germany annexes Luxembourg and the all the land up to the Meuse river, while making a puppet of Belgium. Also France ends up undergoing a far left revolution and the original government flees to Africa 1939-1945 - France loses the second weltkrieg, and cedes the area around Calais and up to Amiens, which is given to Germanys Belgian puppet. France’s original government is restored to power under restrictions 1948 - France loses 3rd weltkreig, forced to cede the Lorraine plateau behind the cities of Nancy and Metz, and also cedes all of the French alps to Italy, while Switzerland also gains land up to annecy, furthermore, britanny gains full independence while France itself becomes a complete puppet government of Germany, permanently.

  • @Frazier16
    @Frazier163 күн бұрын

    America in this timeline would be 2-1 agaisnt the British. Depending on if you consider the war of 1812 a victory for Britain or not

  • @MCLegend13

    @MCLegend13

    3 күн бұрын

    It’s also a 2v1 so it wouldn’t be an American victory at all people who say that don’t understand naval warfare and don’t understand how advanced British naval ship building infrastructure truly was back then. Just look into any historical case of a 2 front war it really doesn’t go well for anyone who is on the receiving end of having to fight one.

  • @Mark-nx5pk

    @Mark-nx5pk

    3 күн бұрын

    It would be 3-0

  • @DarthJoJoSage47
    @DarthJoJoSage473 күн бұрын

    This was an amazing scenario, you should definitely make a part 2 to this, would the soviets or Germany win? Would america intervene? Idk but it would be awesome to see another part

  • @MCLegend13

    @MCLegend13

    3 күн бұрын

    Very inaccurate

  • @DarthJoJoSage47

    @DarthJoJoSage47

    3 күн бұрын

    @@MCLegend13 what's inaccurate?

  • @GalaxyKid609
    @GalaxyKid6093 күн бұрын

    Yippee another video

  • @justweird375
    @justweird37517 сағат бұрын

    Note: He doesn't take into consideration that American military training was terrible compared to British training at the time.

  • @crowned-fennek
    @crowned-fennek2 күн бұрын

    I have an Idea for an alternate history scenario that I haven't seen before: What if Friedrich III. survived? Context: In the year 1888 Wilhelm I. died and his son Friedrich III. became the emperor. Friedrich was the liberal hope of Prussia since he was a libertarian, although he also believed in Prussian militarism. But he didn't get to implement anything important since he died 99 days later of cancer. I always wondered what would have happened if he survived so I'm asking if you could do this scenario.

  • @raphaelmunz8529
    @raphaelmunz85293 күн бұрын

    Rule britania britania Rules the waves

  • @nightwatcher114

    @nightwatcher114

    3 күн бұрын

    Anchors Away my boys, Anchors Away! 🇺🇸

  • @MCLegend13

    @MCLegend13

    3 күн бұрын

    @@nightwatcher114wrong that’s not how the rest of the lyrics go it goes “Britons never never ever shall be slaves”

  • @geo.m1639

    @geo.m1639

    3 күн бұрын

    @@nightwatcher114Ah yes I love how America magically produced a fleet and destroyed britain. PH got extremely lazy towards the end of the video but it did start well

  • @MCLegend13

    @MCLegend13

    3 күн бұрын

    @@geo.m1639 for real lol

  • @stevekook-xw3is

    @stevekook-xw3is

    2 күн бұрын

    ​@@geo.m1639The largest navy on planet earth and most experienced one (probably) just sits and waits for the largest industrial power to produce a lot of ships that will have the skills to sort out the recently former largest navy on earth. It makes sense yeah. They say Britain got no land army. Certainly has enough well battle hardened troops to put on a few island and load them up with supplies preventing USA to move further and closer to the USA in years time even if USA sorts out the royal navy.

  • @josuerosales6485
    @josuerosales64853 күн бұрын

    Now do what if Francisco Morazan's Centroamerica succeeded/what if everything went perfect for the United Provinces of Centroamerica

  • @pdp117O
    @pdp117O3 күн бұрын

    as a Canadian i am a bit frustrated that there have now been 2 where we get annexed by the US but there hasn't been even one where we annex the US. Please make what if everything went perfect for canada

  • @CAProductions051

    @CAProductions051

    2 күн бұрын

    You did kinda get that with PH’s video on if the American Revolution failed but I’d also like to see a perfect Canada.

  • @stevekook-xw3is

    @stevekook-xw3is

    2 күн бұрын

    Yal even today with migration allowed are 40m people roughly. Back then the Americans wouldn't have to worry about yal with 40m people. France with a bit more and a land army that could smoke USA peacetime army due to it's laughable size is another story.

  • @pdp117O

    @pdp117O

    Күн бұрын

    ​@@CAProductions051 he said that with that there wouldent be any idea of an america and a canada, i still want canada just a bigger canada: like maybe canada wins the war of 1812 and gains some land from the US and russia decides to sell alaska to us instead of america and canada gets way more of the oregon territory

  • @CAProductions051

    @CAProductions051

    Күн бұрын

    @@pdp117O That makes sense, maybe Canada could get Greenland and the British Caribbean territories as well.

  • @leviatan4562
    @leviatan45623 күн бұрын

    When is the next stream planned?

  • @Wark_Mahlberg
    @Wark_Mahlberg2 күн бұрын

    Still waiting on the axis victory video

  • @w.santiagobruzzesi1525
    @w.santiagobruzzesi1525Күн бұрын

    We need a video about “what if everything went perfect for the United States Provinces of the Rio de la plata”

  • @DeathEggz
    @DeathEggz3 күн бұрын

    12:26 I guess that far away operation is not so far away

  • @jamaicafosvaldo
    @jamaicafosvaldo3 күн бұрын

    Video 10 of asking Possible History for a video about "If Valery Sablin was succesful"

  • @Trying_His_Bes1
    @Trying_His_Bes13 күн бұрын

    This scenario post ww2 would make a great hoi4 mod (assuming some form of axis victory) it would be like TWR but the US isn’t tied to Britain, and France may be much stronger.

  • @Methos_Drive
    @Methos_Drive3 күн бұрын

    What if Iberia had not been reunified into large countries until the 19th century? (Like Italy and Germany)

  • @amerikasanimations77
    @amerikasanimations772 күн бұрын

    here's just a quick thought, if say france did get declared on by germany, the us may not send soldiers but they may send advisors as if saying "you should put better defenses here" as that would then be our only mainland ally in europe.

  • @nawpd1
    @nawpd13 күн бұрын

    Waiting for "What if everything went perfect for entente"

  • @ale-xsantos1078
    @ale-xsantos10783 күн бұрын

    Always found funny how the war plan for dealing with us was Violet since its the opposite colour to our national one(green and yellow)

  • @salvatoreindelicato9368
    @salvatoreindelicato93683 күн бұрын

    3:22 i'm the only ona that is upset that France is not called Indigo or other blue variants?

  • @Robert_L_Peters
    @Robert_L_Peters20 сағат бұрын

    Bottom line: Britain should have stayed out of WW1, and maintained their alliance with Japan

  • @OliverLaskoski
    @OliverLaskoski3 күн бұрын

    The next video should be about japan taking over basically the entire pacific. Please do a video on the japanese.

  • @imbanan9297
    @imbanan92973 күн бұрын

    Avarage hoi4 playthrough as usa:

  • @user-lf7fo9py1f
    @user-lf7fo9py1f3 күн бұрын

    As an world war 1914 game player i confirmed the red plan war had happend

  • @BubbaJ18
    @BubbaJ183 күн бұрын

    Part 2 when?

  • @NikephorosCaesar
    @NikephorosCaesar3 күн бұрын

    Do a scenario for a successful Gran Colombia

  • @maxwalker1159
    @maxwalker11593 күн бұрын

    Pt 2!

  • @matteorizzi487
    @matteorizzi4872 күн бұрын

    i want a possible history from the XX century where the us arent unstoppable

  • @watchcraft9428
    @watchcraft9428Күн бұрын

    7:40 is when the actual video starts 😂

  • @sahilhossian8212
    @sahilhossian82123 күн бұрын

    Lore of What if America and Britain Went to War in 1933? Momentum 100