I was absolutley disturbed when I saw the picture of the W13 with road tires 😂

@mightyakkylex

2 жыл бұрын

Same bro

@lordjoemott1683

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was their new upgrade.

@lawsonlarue6032

2 жыл бұрын

It would explain a lot honestly

@besher532

2 жыл бұрын

ran out of budget

@randomchannel323

2 жыл бұрын

The amg mercedes project 2 🤣

Something worth noting is that monster trucks also use basic road tires when moving around, be interesting to see how you handle one of those with road wheels.

@jamesmchenry4708

2 жыл бұрын

...on the monster truck bit - yeah, they kind of have done since they got past the 48" tires (Bigfoot 1 was last street-registered in 1981,) but the transport tires became a _bit_ more popular after the trailer incident with Taurus 1. I've noticed recently that teams have begun using compact tractor tires to transport their trucks as well.

@focussport

2 жыл бұрын

They actually use small tractor tires and wheels... so yeah, kinda "normal", but I'd hesitate to call them road tires.

@Buddahknife

2 жыл бұрын

monster truck tires on an f1 car?

@TheM00ndawg

2 жыл бұрын

@@Buddahknife full slicks on a monster truck?

@AngryTurds

2 жыл бұрын

Laundry trolley wheels on 200 tonne dump trucks? Nah, I always go that one step too far. Wheel barrow tyres, though...... 🤔

My friend and I had both had 96 Impala SS's back in the day. One time we took our tiny, skinny little donut spare tires and put both of them onto the rear of his Impala. It was a blast, just non stop burnouts everywhere. That's what this reminded me of.

@fingmoron

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta love those goofy diddy wheels, drove a few hours with two on the front of my old golf a few years ago. None stop plastic smell, was a great laugh minus the fact that I actually needed to get somewhere and was worried the old things might perish before then.

@BurtSampson

2 жыл бұрын

@@fingmoron lol

Finally, we have found the tyre model that Codemasters have used the last 8 years. "Hmmm yeah we better make the wheels spin until we hit 6th gear, then add mechanical grip in 7th to mimic the aero I'm sure that's how it works irl."

@eloicpotel7272

2 жыл бұрын

F1 games don't even have an aero physics mechanic in the game. it's just mechanical grip that increases the faster the car goes

@AceBlake

2 жыл бұрын

@@eloicpotel7272 that's exactly what a lot of the community have suspected for years. It's beyond doubt at this point

@Appletank8

2 жыл бұрын

@@eloicpotel7272 That's one way to get rid of dirty air

@MartinBrada

2 жыл бұрын

@@eloicpotel7272 Well, the fact that grip increases with speed is physically correct. But yes, you would need something a bit more sophisticated to take into account things such as dirty air behind other cars, side winds (which applies to cornering as well) etc. If the model was considering gears, as suggested above, or implementing any other artificial modifications to the grip level, it would naturally result in incorrect behaviour.

Basically a Formula E car with 1000hp and competent aerodynamics.

@benlowes8570

2 жыл бұрын

Why the formula E bashing? Didn’t Monaco this year prove the formula E cars are better race cars than f1 cars?

@timmurphy4844

2 жыл бұрын

Thats my biggest problem with FE is there use of road tires

@gabehowe2778

2 жыл бұрын

@@benlowes8570 FE will never be better than F1, because sadly, F1 will become FE but better in the future

@zero5931

2 жыл бұрын

@@gabehowe2778 this exactly and people don't accept this fact

@SwingAxleLover

2 жыл бұрын

@@benlowes8570 It deserves bashing really

As a child, I once saw a monster truck after an event sitting on tiny little wheels/tires. Ruined monster trucks for me for life. It's something you can't unsee.

@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance

2 жыл бұрын

I think they do that so they fit in the trailers.

@BavMotWork

2 жыл бұрын

@@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance Indeed

Now they need to make real Formula Drift cars with these F1 cars

@philipbarton3456

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I thought, Formula Drift now needs to have actual Formula cars now, the simulations prove it. Then again I have been thinking that since Lewis drifted the W12 during Silverstone quali, seeing those cars sliding like that was a thing of beauty.

@jrojassengard2586

2 жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to see a Formula Drift prototype

Alternative title: how to reduce f1 grid by at least half.

You gotta do another community fun race but with something v8 and RWD, but everyone's on donut spares.

actually looks fun to drive lol, is this what modern f1's been missing?

@broshido2745

2 жыл бұрын

The only thing modern f1 cars should be missing is weight, 800kg without fuel and around 910kg with fuel, that’s a miata right there ffs

@themann8472

2 жыл бұрын

F1 drift series?

@thor-ericsson

2 жыл бұрын

@@broshido2745 bloody quick miata

@armchairracer4900

2 жыл бұрын

Uh no because they already tried it from 1998-2008 when F1 had grooved tires and the racing suffered because the cars had tons of aero grip and no mechanical grip. That's the opposite of what you want. The downforce and dirty air is what leads to bad racing. They need to keep the slicks and cut the wings off. Then it's like a giant go kart

@dcdude345

2 жыл бұрын

Back to the 60s

what happens if you put new f1 tyres on an old f1 car?

@SkyFall4839

2 жыл бұрын

If you put modern slick tyres on the 2004 F1 Ferrari, it would be faster than the actual cars!

@SilasHumphreys

2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see something like "modern slicks on a Lotus 49". See how much the modern tyres depend on aero to get them worked up to a grippy temperature. A turbo-hybrid 49 would be a good laugh too.

@KayJblue

2 жыл бұрын

GP laps has a great video like that.

@dutchgray86

2 жыл бұрын

@@SilasHumphreys Lotus 49 would never be able to keep the temps up on modern F1 tyres and if somehow could, the extra mechanical grip would most likely break the car as those were really fragile.

The way you drive this car sorta reminds me of how you'd drive old 60s f1 cars, when sliding the car in such a way might actually be faster and so on....Just with way more power and aero.

I would pay to watch modern f1 like this. I miss drivers constantly having to wrestle with their car so much :D

@paulcajkasr9600

2 жыл бұрын

Russell would be okay, but Sir Lewis would be a bit wonky .

@KitKitChanIsaac

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulcajkasr9600 TeamLH will find a way to cry about how this road tire regulation exists just to stop Lewis from getting the 8th

@Appletank8

2 жыл бұрын

oh, the days when f1 cars would powerslide through corners

Reminds me of the 917/30. You understeer in, slide and slide, wheelspin on the way out then get grip and shoot off like a madman

Driven Media has a video of F1 tires on a road (Well, kinda) car, also a good watch. Edit: They uploaded a video of them putting F1 slicks on an actual normal road car just now, heh.

Hi jimmy, watched you at silverstone on Sunday you did really well!, I saw you had some grippy issues as well

Jimmy Broadbent/Gordi Mutch Praga Cup 2022. Currently placed 1st with 148pts and an 8pt lead. 4 races to go. To win the championship would be such an amazing thing. Just keep doing what you are doing Jimmer!! ❤️ (You also slayed the wet track curse this last weekend)

Actually been waiting to try this for ages… awesome watch!

I feel that the conversation you showed having with Neils is the one you always use when a new specimen appears.

This went better than expected, also it was great seeing you in the last DannyDC2 vid at Cadwell

love the oldschool looking 4 wheel drift driving style combined with highspeed aero and modern car.

Love @7:20 when it starts wheelspinning at 100mph+ and jimmer just pins it and drives it.

I really like these types of vids! Keep it up

Thank u bimmy jroardbent for this preeeeemium content

I agree with everything you said in this video but... If it was an accurate simulation and we are talking about commercially available tyres (and not custom made road legal tyres) as soon as you went over 120-150kph the tire would completely explode. Check the tyres on your car for the max load rating. It's less than the downforce generated by an F1 car at these speeds. Also, rF2 seems to not simulate the wings stalling when you get oversteer, like they do in most single seaters. The phenomenon is caused by the sideplate hitting the air sideways and casting an "aero shadow" (bad term I know) on the aerofoil part of the wing.

@NielsHeusinkveld

2 жыл бұрын

Probably mostly true, I've added a description to the video about this car on my channel. Of course at lower speeds the tire loads won't be too bad, but loads can go up to ~1300kg on a single tire in F1, opposed to say 800kg on road going supercars.

@ExMachinaEngineering

2 жыл бұрын

@@NielsHeusinkveld Hmmmm, yes a supercar tyre would be able to take more than a, let's say, modern hot hatch tyre.

just finished making something t eat, jimmy you literally make this evening perfect :)

Driven Media: puts F1 tyres on road cars Jimmy:

@KitKitChanIsaac

2 жыл бұрын

UNO reverse card

Attractive, 10/10. Great vid as always, thanks for the entertainment, I (and I'm sure as many others) appreciate you immensely.

Just when I think you can’t make more funny content you do! Keep up the great work!!! Haha

ah you know it’s a good day when jim posts a vid

I'd happily watch a league of those driving as flat out as possible.

One of my favourite things to do on GT5 was put comfort hards on a race car and enjoy the mild over and under steer

Jimmy, you're like Aladdin: only rather than a Jinn in a bottle you have friends with mad skills! You wish for it and suddenly an F1 car with street tires appears! Utterly FANTASTIC!

You had me at sim racing degeneracy! Keep up the good work Jimmer!😀

definitely need a massive viewer race with these cars

Welcome fellow Squarespacier

More of this! But more tracks and more cars

Massive opposite lock....best fun like rallying..👍❤️😅

This'll spice up the races, instead of sprint races let's have car tyre races

The car control on that fast lap was BEAUT

That Vordt theme music is always great

Old School Jimmer things

As soon as I saw this image I knew you'd have a video on the subject soon 😂😂😂✌

love your videos and you driving the praga irl. is there a mod for goldie in assetto corsa ?

Now we need a race with it

Great video!

the drifting is insane lmao

It's the TT Jimmer. How fast does an F1 car lap the IOM? Could you beat the bikes?

Another of Neils fine creations

Those drifts really remind me of old Jim Clark onboard footage

Thats some driving with the street tires

Besides tyre width, how is this different from running on the old treaded tyres like the Dunlops from the 60s?

You seem tired, Jimmy. Hope you've been okay. Congrats on the win at Silverstone. I'd love to see more videos or even races with this car.

I havent watched the video yet, but the aswer is SMOKE

7:36 We learned that anything is faster than you in a Praga, Jimmer.

Would honestly like to see f1 race with this

That image of Maurice falling at the start needs to be added to the intro, maybe

You know when Niels sends Jimmy something it's gonna be very, very silly.

dam i would love to try and drive the praga in asm one

That mild wheelspin reminds me of my automation cars in beamNG

I've always wondered what would win, a F1 car with tractor wheels, or a tractor with F1 wheels. Jimmy, please find out for me

And now a lap around the Snaeffel Mountain Course.

This is what we need for the 2023 season

Hey Jimmy, I know that you played Gran Turismo games a lot and I need your help. How to make the car sound louder and make the wind and tires sounds more quiet? Im asking about GT5 prologue.

Wish Jimmy would go back to streaming again. He is obviously entitled to spend his own time as he wants to of course, not blaming him for that part, just miss us all hanging out watching him race.

Duse I was just talking about this last week. Want to see this irl too! (even if you have to get yourself an f1 car)

Hoi jimmer, will you possibly be playing f1 manager? It looks really cool and i would love to see you play it on stream

Ever tried a Gasser on one of those F1 circuits?

Gran Turismo lobby music in the background of square space shill? I’m in.

This is what I feel like playing F1 2021 without traction control

jimmy speaking about praga just gives me ptsd for the past two races

Thats what i call proper Forumla Drift

This is just me when i do my "randomized setup" challenges!

Jimmy, could you do a modern day F1 race at Bathurst? Would be epic to see after Vettel’s comment.

Intelligence < Jimmer Brain

Nils is just a mad scientist

Next time, try this beast in monaco lol

Whole new meaning to formula drift

Thanks Jimmy, I have no imput, I just want to show my love

KZread's advanced AI put on the wrong foot. Sees sliding, assumes RF2! :D

That went well...

What would've been interesting is to see what would happen if you take the gear below the one where the wheels don't spin at the maximum torque output and tune the torque curve so that the lower gear becomes driveable. It is a hybrid after all, so like putting out a constant 400nm from 3000rpm to 8000 or something like that should definitely be possible in the real world, just don't shift down I suppose

@barnabro

2 жыл бұрын

It’s absolutely possible, not just via the hybrid system but with boost pressure and timing from the turbo too. Something similar is already used in F1 for different engine modes, such as wet weather maps which give a less aggressive torque curve. Also to ensure consistent throttle feel and torque response between temperature changes, and the altitudes of different tracks.

@or2kr

2 жыл бұрын

@@barnabro I'm not sure how well the engines perform at low rpms, they are after all built to perform the best just below 12k rpm and thus aren't really made to run at full load at low rpms. What could also work is different throttle mappings for each gear, would be much simpler to implement I guess

I wonder what it would be like if you went from "road tire" to "street legal high performance track day tire"

@bizooty8782

2 жыл бұрын

Depending on the tire used from the Camaro, that could basically be it already. My Camaro has Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar3's stock. People kept telling me I had no tread left when the car only had 4000 miles lol

I would have liked to have seen a final comparison against a normal F1 just to see how much the tyres actually hurt a lap time

Are the Praga and this road F1 2022 available for the public?

What I gathered is F1 needs to move to road tires for more relevance to road cars...But seriously, less wide open "corners", go back to refueling so there is at least some reason to have pit stops and let them go. Even better, less deficit and more tolerance in the wet, they could actually probably drive through puddles. It seems only win honestly. Cost saving even.

@indominusrex1652

2 жыл бұрын

So you want the 2005 season back

@sampuhhupmas5666

2 жыл бұрын

@@indominusrex1652 Yes. We also need NA V10s running on biofuel

@nade5557

2 жыл бұрын

@@sampuhhupmas5666 this

Do you think if it’ll be faster if you put on a round wheel and drift through low speed corners? Because the it sure looks rallying in those corners lol

This is why the BRZ/86 come with skinny tires. So you can get a little wiggly at a brisk 37 mph.

Jimmer I would love to see you take the Next Gen Nascar car around Nuremberg and compare it to the old car and around Le MANS since there going to race there.

holly shit wow! what a drive

3:38 “He Cut The Chicken” -Alonso

i wish niels would make his ams mods public someday, i mean not just the lego car

What if you put it on an older f1 car like f2004, already set up for grooved tires and traction control.

Next idea: modern F1 cars on 1950-60's era bias-ply tires.

I'd like to see this with the car having like an drifty setup 😋

Driver61: Puts F1 tyres on a road car. Broadbent: Puts road tyres on an F1 car.

Hey jimmer. Another tyre video idea would be a formula 1 car but each tyre is a different compound type

what this video doesnt capture is as soon as the aero gave you grip it would overload and overheat those tires to failure xD

man you should hold a race with theese

Long shot here, but is the Praga available to download for us non-racing plebs anywhere ? I'd love to have a go in your racecar Mr. Praga Driver Jimmy Broadbent.

@skylerwatson5243

2 жыл бұрын

If you have asseto corsa they have a Praga R1 that is fun to drive