What happens when you are asked to euthanize a pet and you don’t think it’s warranted? Honeys story

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I am a small animal veterinarian who shares the cases I see. Even those that are heart breaking and emotionally difficult. This is the story of Honey. An older lab who the family brought in to euthanize. Four people at my clinic intervened to try to spare her life. Her family wouldn’t surrender her and we wouldn’t euthanize. Three months later they called us back to surrender her to us. She can barely walk but she is still the same happy girl we met that day. Her full story is at my blog KMDVM.blogspot.com. Search Honey. It is possible to care more than you think your heart can endure and there is compassion if you give it back.

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  • @christydoty5165
    @christydoty51652 ай бұрын

    What’s sad is some people just get so fed up with having to care for an older animal that they just can’t be bothered anymore. Some people shouldn’t have animals.

  • @walksp1500
    @walksp15002 ай бұрын

    That family doesn’t want to do the hard stuff, they get older and you take care of them because they gave you years of love and happiness!! When our Golden was 16 she stopped eating, after trying different foods over months she stopped eating completely and our vet said yes, it’s time to say goodbye. We were so blessed to have our sweet girl all those years. God bless you and your staff, what difficult positions people put you in.

  • @TheYazmanian

    @TheYazmanian

    2 ай бұрын

    That sounds like us with our sweet Ralphie, 14 year old Shepherd, he had turned 14 March 5th and we said Goodbye March 25th 💔 In July of last year we noticed he lost a little weight and wasn't really eating as much of his usual food as normal. We tried and tried to figure out what was wrong but really couldn't and they thought it was allergies and irritable bowel disease, so for many months we tried different foods. My home cooked various meals and tried several different dog foods both kibble and can. We had him on the prescription diet hydrolized protein and that seemed to sit well with him but he still struggled with his tummy a little bit and even though it was easier to digest it wasn't palatable and exciting for him to eat and he continued to lose weight. By the end I was full-time taking care of him. Our morning routine would sometimes last 3 hours. I had to take him out several times in the morning because of his poop. The chronic diarrhea was making him pretty miserable. Felt so bad for him but he still had such a great attitude even though he was so tired and so weak. I would bake him fish in the oven and would sometimes slice his canned food and bake it so it would be a crunchier treat. He would sleep a lot during the day and he slept beautifully at night too. Even though he had Arthritis we managed it very well with CBD. But no matter what we did we couldn't manage his tummy. It would get better just to get worse and his periods of recovery and illness would cycle pretty quickly after a while. I miss him so much.

  • @myphone8514
    @myphone85142 ай бұрын

    I wish every vet had you're dedication and moral character. In comment to some of your other vids...I'm in the new york city area and it's impossible to find an independent vet,, they are all bought up by the corporations and the fees are insane. Amyhow that's a beautiful story! So happy they were saved! Odd how thirsty there were

  • @LisaAllgire
    @LisaAllgire2 ай бұрын

    How sad for the dog, people need to think long and hard before getting a animal. It is part of your family. You are a wonderful person! Thank you for caring about those animals that don't have a chance. The world needs more people like you💓

  • @tinamcneill1116
    @tinamcneill11162 ай бұрын

    I'm so happy they surrendered her and the other one. She was so thirsty I bet they weren't giving her much to drink so they didn't have to clean up her pee 😢. Thank you for standing by your staff. She looks so incredibly happy ❤

  • @janceleste
    @janceleste2 ай бұрын

    Bless you for being the person you are and standing by that dog

  • @vrspwbm3
    @vrspwbm32 ай бұрын

    thank you so much for saving her 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖

  • @margaieljohnson1231
    @margaieljohnson12312 ай бұрын

    Thank you ❣🙏

  • @Tammy-cj5qu
    @Tammy-cj5qu2 ай бұрын

    Thank you!!!

  • @brianries88
    @brianries8824 күн бұрын

    God Bless you Krista I'll be praying for you and your family 😢😢😢😢 too bad more vets aren't like you and your staff .

  • @SuperBotanica
    @SuperBotanica2 ай бұрын

    I live in Thailand. Animals are not euthanized in veterinary practices. A few cats and 2 dogs have died in my arms in the last few years. that changed my perspective. I am sure that each of these animals felt that I was with them until their last breath. A few days before death, each animal was happy when I was with them, feeding them or giving them water. I quickly noticed when the animal no longer wanted to eat or drink and felt that death was approaching. a natural process. That's exactly how the Buddhists see it.

  • @TheYazmanian

    @TheYazmanian

    2 ай бұрын

    I am very conflicted about euthanasia, But in some cases it is extremely necessary like if they are experiencing acute suffering And there is no way to help them and that they are going to die but it'll take a period of days why not end their suffering I'm actually shocked they don't do this at all ever? I lived in Thailand for 11 years but I was a little girl and not really aware of veterinary practices as it pertains to euthanasia. We never really had to put down any of our animals when I was a kid. I know that it's a procedure that can be horribly botched and that if the animal is not deeply sedated and unconscious before the final shot that it can be quite Brutal and sad. Death is never easy but I truly believe in euthanasia I'm just conflicted when it comes to beings that can't consent, like animals. It's a sad and scary thought to think that we are helping them when in reality what if they just wanted to die naturally? We have no way of knowing because we can't speak to them and even if they could talk would they understand the concept of death and therefore be able to advocate for themselves? It's an ethical conundrum

  • @SuperBotanica

    @SuperBotanica

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TheYazmanian But it is part of Buddhist philosophy. but there are e.g. soi dog org., who can probably help in bad cases and pick up the animal.

  • @inesucrvenom

    @inesucrvenom

    2 ай бұрын

    @@SuperBotanica Many religions glorify suffering with excuse that it's natural thing. We do so many non natural things in our daily lives that I think it's just hypocritical to cherry pick them. Let's start with internet and all medicines and technology that helps and improve lives. But that's why I'm not theist. I don't believe suffering is needed for anything, but that it has to be reduced as much as possible whenever we have the opportunity. No living being has to suffer. Also applicable for humans, not just animals!

  • @inesucrvenom
    @inesucrvenom2 ай бұрын

    I was so happy when I kept watching and saw there's update and they surrendered the dog! My heart melted! I can understand when people don't have financial, physical or emotional energy to cope with pet whose health is deteriorating. Sometimes pet's health is that bad that indeed, euthanasia is kind option. Sometimes pet can go longer but you can't, and then you should look for a home where people have money/energy to provide that pet good life for time that's left. What I just can't understand is their arrogance to insist on killing the animal instead of giving it away when you HAVE such offer. It's devastating when you can't find another way and only option left is euthanasia, but when the help IS there, I just can't comprehend. That just baffles me, and your story isn't first where I've heard that people refused to surrender and I'm just 'wtf'. Thank you for sharing that sometimes people eventually decide to surrender, and I can't even imagine how hard it was to hold your ground back then. I'm so happy to hear it paid off for you all! Sending tons of hugs to doggos and you and your stuff! You're real heroes ❤💜💙🧡 I'd probably be tempted to heavily sedate the dog and insist that due to law or something body has to be cremated and you can't give it away, and then unsedate the dog and basically steal it, but yes, such move would but your whole clinic in danger. I'm happy that your kind words were enough to put the worm of guilt in their heads and that worm prevailed :)

  • @livingmybelovedlife8447
    @livingmybelovedlife84472 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for sharing this story. Bless you all for your kindness and compassion. I'm glad the owner did the right thing and at least surrendered her when he wasn't willing to continue to care for her.

  • @docgammycat
    @docgammycat2 ай бұрын

    I can't remember which State you're in, but it's important to have a good relationship with the local animal control officers who can enforce laws protecting animals and legally seize animals from lousy caretakers. Depending on how the laws in your State are written, there are many ways to construe abuse or negligence.

  • @MaxAngor
    @MaxAngor2 ай бұрын

    My dog is 5. When he starts breaking down in 10 years, he's gonna start costing us real money and that's gonna suck. But I helped my mom get into hospice so I've seen the fight. Chip doesn't die until he chooses to die. It's as simple as that.

  • @connieheitz8982
    @connieheitz89822 ай бұрын

    Back in Dec I had to put my doggie down. She was originally my parents that I had bought them which made it harder becausethey have passed. She had dementia. I waited way to long to do it. For months I would come home at lunch and mop the floors where she peed and pooped and again when I got home. She had sundowning just like humans. She paced so much that she was more than half of her original weight. And she was a small dog to begin with. Though I tried several diffent diets hoping she would gain or at least not loose anymore. She would walk into places she didn't know how to get out of by walking into tight circles over and over again. It broke my heart to do it but I knew she was suffering though I told myself she wasn't. How someone could just put there dog to sleep when simple meds would fix it I don't know. I only wish meds would have helped mine.

  • @cdmurphy949

    @cdmurphy949

    2 ай бұрын

    You did the right thing. She's now your Forever Soul Pup 💕

  • @connieheitz8982

    @connieheitz8982

    2 ай бұрын

    @@cdmurphy949 thank you!

  • @Bblb1997
    @Bblb19972 ай бұрын

    What about when he gets old and soils himself and can’t get up? What the hell does are not reasons to give up and specially not to KILL the dog that has been with you for years. You offered to go above and beyond to care for the animal, the guy just doesn’t give a shit.

  • @ChoppersModelworks
    @ChoppersModelworks2 ай бұрын

    These are not easy decisions to make for one we love. My dog Buddy was about 18 years old approximately and would not whimper wine or show any sign of being in pain but just slowed down over the last 3 years. Even when i took him to his vet when he was losing his balance and again when he seemed to have back pain or stiffness, they would just say well he is an older dog so let's give him pain meds and watch for quality-of-life decline and decide when he has had enough. The pain meds would help some for his walks and help him sleep without getting up all night. His swelling above his head and behind his ears continued and would seem to drain from his eyes at times. Starting maybe after the first of this year he started to pee in the house and have accidents as well as having some issues with weakness in his hind legs. Again i took him into our vet and they wouldn't do anything even when i wanted to get his back x-rayed as he had taken a fall in the frozen rain one morning. They said they would have to use general anesthesia to do so and didn't want to at his age. He also had slowly started to lose weight starting the middle of 2023 and he also started to not want to go on his normal longer walks in the park. The other vets locally wouldn't see him either as i did try to get a second opinion. So we then come to Saturday the 30th of March 2024 and he was a bit weak that morning on his walk and wanted me to carry him back home. I figured this was because over the last few nights he had been getting me up about every hour at night to go pee and was maybe just tired. he had also been having problems bending his front legs when i slipped his harness on for his walks but figured this was from what i was told was arthritis. I left him home for a few hours in his comfortable crate for a few hours as i thought he still was recovering from maybe pulling some muscles when he slipped on the ice earlier a couple months back and wanted to keep him from jumping too much onto the bed. And over the last month i had actually removed the bed frame to sit just a thin mattress on the floor to make it easier for him to climb up at night as we have slept together for the last 10 years. So i got home maybe after leaving my Buddy for about 4 hours to hearing him screaming or wailing in his crate!. I lifted him out and he was having problems standing on his hind legs and by then my vet was long closed. I thought i would see how he did over the next few hours and fed him and this was very difficult for him now. By now he couldn't bend his front legs and his toes were kind of curled into fists. And about then is when he started to fall over as he couldn't keep his hind legs under himself or even get up by himself. He seemed to want to sit in the bed with me and just have me comfort and hold him. I guess you can see where this might be going and i was still in denial to myself of how bad he was. I must state now that i myself have suffered from a severe head injury in the past and even later about 10 year earlier my Buddy was the one that helped me recover from a severe concussion but i still have problems thinking clearly. So i took him in early Sunday the 31st of March to an emergency clinic to see what if anything could be done even though i kind of feared it was time for ending his suffering as he didn't like not being able to walk or get around by himself. They were finally able to get an x-ray of his spine with just a strong sedative like i had asked for years earlier. Noticing he also couldn't hold his bladder very well they tested for kidney function. They also said his straight front legs and fisted front toes was indicative of a head issue which almost broke me on the spot as i know how a struggle that can make things. The results came back and unfortunately his poor spine was all compressed which probably had been making him slow. But he also had two vertebrates that were slipped or drove into each other which probably was causing his inability to walk. But then they told me the Carprofen that the vet had prescribed had probably led to his kidneys now being in full failure. And this was terrible because it didn't sound like even if the spine surgery was okay his recovery would be risky even if he wasn't maybe 18 years old. They offered to give me pain pills and sedatives to take him home for a couple more days, but he seemed to be terminal by then. Keep in mind i have had very little sleep over the last few weeks and was breaking down as he is and was the only reason i had to get up in the mornings or come home too. being he was still sedated and not in any fear or distress i figured why take him home and prolong his stress and suffering as he must have been in pain over the last few years but wouldn't show me as we are both deeply emotional soul's my Buddy and I. So i now regret not making the veterinarian to make everything abundantly clear as now even four weeks after putting my beloved Buddy down i cannot bear thinking i did so too early. I miss you Buddy. (sorry for maybe a long rant, but this has been the first time for me to just sit down and write out what had occurred to probably the world's most perfect dog and the one to give a broken man a reason to live.)

  • @inesucrvenom

    @inesucrvenom

    2 ай бұрын

    Sending hugs to you 💜 I think we always hold to hope, and always doubt ourselves. From what you're saying, you definitely didn't do it too early. Even a bit earlier wouldn't be too early, because he was in pain and was suffering. He held strong for you, and you held strong for him, but you both knew it was time, I see it in your words. You did the right thing. And it was the most painful thing you had to do. And you wouldn't be a kind person if you wouldn't doubt yourself about steps you took. I'm so glad to hear that you two had each other on your journey! 💜It's really heartbreaking when we DO consult several vets and they all say the same and then so much later some other vet says/shows differently. I mean, we're not vets, we can only advocate but we don't know medicine to know what is possible or what isn't. And there are limits of our opportunities, be it money or location. I try to inform myself about anything, and I book double/triple appointment with vet so we have time to discuss everything, I read books, medical papers and watch vet YT channels. But I know neither I nor vets will know everything, and sometimes even more testing don't bring much because care will be the same, you'll just know diagnosis better. 18 years for dog is from what I'm understanding, really long life, and it looks like until the very end, you two had good moments together. I really think you did the best you could and the right steps with information you had. I think your Buddy knows that too 💜I hope writing things out helped you a bit 💜

  • @redbloodedbutterfly

    @redbloodedbutterfly

    2 ай бұрын

    From what you've written, I don't think you said 'goodbye' too early. Buddy was diagnosed with multiple health issues that were incurable. While pain meds might lessen pain, there's no way to ask an animal if the pain meds are adequately controlling the pain. Also, it's better to say 'goodbye' too early than it is to wait too long. I wonder if I waited too long with my cat Mokoto. He had two types of cancer, lots of meds, and I was doing hospice. He was still eating, drinking, asking for pets, purring, etc. His face relaxed so much when he crossed the rainbow bridge... I worry that I waited too long and that I didn't give him a high enough dose of pain meds while he was alive. We both acted out of love for our beloveds and did the best we could with the knowledge and resources we had. My Mokoto passed in Nov 2022. He was 14.5yo.

  • @ChoppersModelworks

    @ChoppersModelworks

    2 ай бұрын

    @@redbloodedbutterfly So sorry to hear of your beloved Mokoto. I had a similar experience many years ago when our old cat got into some antifreeze and we tried to give him time to maybe recover. But seeing him slowly break down and in pain was something i feared to play out with doing the spinal surgery for Buddy to only then struggle with the kidney failure. The head injury i think had also taken a turn for the worse and with him being deaf i had no way to calm or insure him things would be fine. I am holding onto the hope we will meet our beloved pets on the other side and he understood.

  • @Bblb1997
    @Bblb19972 ай бұрын

    On that note, Krista, what is your general position on euthanasia? Can you legally decline to do it?

  • @kristamagnificoDVM

    @kristamagnificoDVM

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes. I can decline to do anything I do not feel comfortable with. This would also include complex surgeries. Dangerous pets Etc.

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