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I have a Hyundai Sonota hybrid that’s about 8 years old. When my car was new, I was getting about 44 mpg, now that the battery is near the end of its life, I’m getting 36 to 38 mpg. Cold weather also affects the mpg. Fortunately I purchased my vehicle when Hyundai was still trying to promote hybrid vehicles so they offered a lifetime replacement of my hybrid battery for the life for the original vehicle owner. I’m expecting the battery to need replacement within 2 or 3 years so I’m taking excellent care of this vehicle by regular oil changes and keeping it in my garage to avoid weather damage. It looks and runs like new with the exception of the mpg. When new it could get over 650 miles on one tank of gas. It has been one of the best and most reliable vehicles I have ever owned. I’m 79 and had over 20 vehicles in my driving career. This is the best by far.

@mohammedabdalla72

Жыл бұрын

8oòo😊

Lithium ion batteries are happiest around a 50% SOC. Only charge higher if you plan to drive it back to 50% shortly after charging.

You would make an awesome chemistry and physics teacher!

My car is an EV but I live in a condo with no way to charge at home, so I rely 100 percent on the public charging infrastructure. It's a massive segment of the population that lives in apartments and doesn't own homes, so for us, fast charging is a godsend. It's probably not good for the batteries, but if you want an EV and don't own a house, that's how it is. The car has to be able to weather the winter and summer seasons to be practical.

@nate_2092

3 ай бұрын

What made you decide to get a EV without a way to charge at home?

@huge_balls

3 ай бұрын

@@nate_2092 I just really love the way it drives. Super quiet, instant torque, less mechanical complexity, etc. But yeah the other side of owning it is the charging and it's a huge burden lol

@adrianwood2566

Ай бұрын

There is a lot of recent research that says fast charging doesn’t impact degradation as first expected. This is why batteries are lasting longer and warranties have increased. It is still better to only occasionally charge above 80% but with the higher ranges that has become less of an issue.

@huge_balls

Ай бұрын

@@adrianwood2566 I've been using fast charging most of the time and the battery is still good so far

I love how you explain what a battery is! While battery degradation is inevitable, there are proactive measures that EV owners can take to mitigate its effects and extend the life of their vehicle's battery. How about integrating battery limiters into EVs? I don't know if manufacturers can do this in the future. I have one for my iPhone (it's called Chargie and I also use it in other small gadgets) and it regulates the charging and discharging processes to prevent excessive wear on the battery.

I own a Chevy Bolt with 260 miles range brand new but was able to increase it to 280 miles by using both the regenerative hand braking located on left of steering wheel and the one leg driving button. Big disappointment with Teslas and Lucid and others is that they don't have both mentioned on last sentence. I love my Bolt and just made a Dodge charger pissed today by accelerating faster then he tailgated me which I used windshield wipers and wet his car. 😂

We purchased my wife’s 2011 Prius Plug In Hybrid brand new, the dealer stated range on all battery was 16 miles but I think real world was closer to 12-14, today at 11 -12 years old batteries hold up to around 5-6 miles max on all electric, keep in mind these are Ni Cad I think

@moleisrich1

Жыл бұрын

Wow impressive numbers lol. I’ll stick to my 300k mile vw .

@josepeixoto3384

Ай бұрын

@@moleisrich1 lol, same here.

Best explanation i heard so far, thanks; that club analogy was superb.

Good presentation, love the club analogy. All those poor Tesla cars in Arizona summers.

Nice video but im gonna have to wait.

My Prius didn’t last. Total battery failure at 115k miles.

@Jon-ky6st

Жыл бұрын

Had to change mine twice got it to 330k, nickel cadmium batteries which Toyota uses fail differently then lithium ion.

@josepeixoto3384

Ай бұрын

@@Jon-ky6st NiCads are long gone, illegal all over, they say ...danger! i doubt it

Why is Battery Chemistry difficult??❤

20-40 grand in 10 years. Disposable automotive pollution

@mrbizi5652

Жыл бұрын

I think you are reacting to the fact she didn’t even mention how many EV manufacturers are now considering ease of battery replacement and how newer EVs will allow owners to replace batteries and essentially have a like new vehicle as the EV motors have minimal moving parts and last WAY longer than gas engines. Lastly, the battery that is removed is recycled and the majority of the lithium and other minerals can be processed and reused and over time the cost of the battery raw materials is less about mining and more about recycling which then should lead to even lower total costs over time. So, I don’t see it as disposable but rather recyclable which should provide more value over time.

@urbanyouths

5 ай бұрын

@@mrbizi5652 That hasn't happened yet, batteries do not last. This is why electric cars lost out over 100 years ago, and still are inferior to combustible engines which do in fact last much longer. Either they have to develop a new type of battery that actually lasts for decades, or a new form of fuel like water to surpass a combustible engine.

@mrbizi5652

5 ай бұрын

Actually they have replaceable batts on some EVs in China so it is possible to replace them. Also, there are already Teslas that have same battery for 12 years so that is over a decade. If owner simply replaces the battery now, they can replace with longer lasting battery now as the tech has improved. In China, they are also using different chemistries in batteries. We simply need to do similar in US. The reason is the world is moving to EVs. As the world does, the US buyers will see lower total costs and it will become inevitable that US will have more EVs. It’s a supply/demand thing. With electric you can produce your own electric easily with PVs on your roof. It puts you in charge and no longer depend on big companies. It means you have more freedom if you go electric. So that’s why I think we’ll see more of it and why batt prices will drop as economies of scale set in.

@urbanyouths

5 ай бұрын

@@mrbizi5652 No, it costs tens of thousands of dollars to replace the battery on a EV car (as reported by many EV owners), and they lose its capacity very quickly.

@mrbizi5652

5 ай бұрын

@@urbanyouths that’s actually not true. Do you own one? I own an EV. Range has not dropped dramatically. I know there were some less sophisticated EVs 10 yrs ago that might not have held up but battery management systems have come a long way. Please don’t let the nay sayers create undue influence. Buy one and make up your own mind. Keep in mind your phone doesn’t have the sophisticated BMS that EV does. Further, in China they have EVs where you don’t charge them, you simply swap the battery at a “recharge station”. I don’t see that model coming to US as no one wants to give up their battery they took care of for one that they don’t trust how someone else took care of etc. however the technology exists to swap batteries efficiently. So, in theory EV manufacturers could allow you to swap out batteries for around $10k at end of life of your current EV batt (ie in 10-15 years as it drops to 80% capacity of what it started with). That would effectively give you a new car. Issue is how well you take care of the body, breaks and motors. Since EV breaks tend to last longer due to regeneration, electric motors don’t have as many moving parts and don’t tend to fail as much over time, costs of repairs will be low. The key will be the body styling and wear and tear on body. I would suggest body shops doing repairs and paint / wrap shops will do well in this new world going forward. And while you will probably think I’m wrong, what if I’m right? You could be saving thousands on not paying for gasoline or oil changes for the next decade and if you put on solar panels on your roof you could get low cost electricity.

Is it recommended that an ev battery ever be charged to 100%?

@josepeixoto3384

Ай бұрын

no, never; and never go below 20% if you can; SO...the key, as in my Solar home off-grid system is to OVER desigh the thing, so that you never need to be off from the 20% to 80% range

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No car companies want to switch to electric because they know that the life span of an EV is about 25 years where as a ICE has the ability to last indefinitely. I saw a model T driving down the road last week I pointed out to my kids and they had no idea a car could actually be over a hundred years old. You will never see a 100 year old EV

@mrbizi5652

Жыл бұрын

Actually, you could easily swap the battery and keep driving the EV for 100 years as well. Just like on the Model T they no doubt replaced ICE parts along the way

@Justthemow

Жыл бұрын

@@mrbizi5652 have you actually priced that out a new battery is almost as much as a new car fixing an ICE is simple and cheap by comparison I had a truck with over a million miles on it when I was younger bought it when it was at 900k put another 120k on it then gave it to my dad and to change this battery it’s a complete frame off disassembly

@BrianKnispel

Жыл бұрын

EV’s have way less moving parts, yes batteries are expensive, but Tesla/Lucid/Rivian should last more than 500K easily. In 10 years batteries will be way cheaper, it will be like changing a transmission or cheaper. The electric motors will last forever, think about that office ceiling fan that has been spinning for the last 50 years. Plus, if you have to add up all the oil changes, belts, plugs, brakes, fluid swaps, and other stuff you have to do on an ICE vehicle, the cost of ownership of EV’s is waaay less. Even today.

@urbanyouths

5 ай бұрын

@@BrianKnispel You're arguing in theory, not in the reality that a combustible engine car now is much cheaper and practical and will last, because there's an abundance of parts, which means it's much cheaper to fix.

@mauricioweber8879

3 ай бұрын

@Justthemow.. hah. What a ridiculous argument... the Model T, beautiful yes.. I’m guessing only the steering wheel is from the original body. The rest has been refurbished, redone or replaced many times over.

Everything except initial demonstration is ither false or incomplete data. Please don't listen to this and go watch a propper scientific explanation from that Canadian researcher that dedicated years to get propper data.

Other words a electric car is a bad idea. I thought so. I am staying with my gasoline car .

@mauricioweber8879

3 ай бұрын

@charleslatman6123. Not a smart conclusion

Correction I mean hazardous to health

CORRECTION: Not hazadous is wrong I mean it’s hazardous to health coz the battery had lithium component which is hazardous to health

@ApteraEV2024

Жыл бұрын

Don't eat your battery ❤😂

No batteries, the batteries has lithium components n it’s not hazardous to health 🎉

@mrbizi5652

Жыл бұрын

Only if you interact with the Lithium and the batteries are sealed so end user shouldn’t ever come in contact with them.