What Happens Next In Dune Messiah?

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Stay Duned... Welcome to WatchMojo, and today we’re taking a deep dive into Frank Herbert’s first sequel to “Dune”, “Dune Messiah”, for our MojoNotes series! For those who haven’t read the book, there are MAJOR spoilers ahead! We'll have a look at the players, themes, Stoneburner and more! How you read the books? Let us know in the comments!
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  • @WatchMojo
    @WatchMojo2 ай бұрын

    How you read the books? Let us know in the comments! For more content like this, click here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Zq1llI-ylsjUhcY.html Don't forget to play our Live Trivia (www.watchmojo.com/play) games at 3pm EST for a chance to win cash! The faster you answer, the more points you get!

  • @TimLoyalToWifeHaterFreeZoneA

    @TimLoyalToWifeHaterFreeZoneA

    Ай бұрын

    Love It WatchMojo.

  • @blassezfaire9940
    @blassezfaire99402 ай бұрын

    Paul opens a chocolate factory...and sings against the horrors of capitalism...it gets crazy

  • @WatchMojo

    @WatchMojo

    2 ай бұрын

    LOL

  • @giantqtipz6577

    @giantqtipz6577

    Ай бұрын

    capilism everyones cappin all the time

  • @tankehe

    @tankehe

    Ай бұрын

    Honestly , Ur not too far off xd

  • @marekolchawski7998

    @marekolchawski7998

    Ай бұрын

    😂😅

  • @Shan_Dalamani

    @Shan_Dalamani

    Ай бұрын

    That's not too far from the plot of National Lampoon's DOON. It's a very clever parody of the novel, as Pall Mauve'Bib seeks justice for the actions of the Emperor Shaddup IV and Baron Hardchargin'. But can Pall and his mother survive the hostile sugars of Arruckis and the giant pretzels that live there?

  • @negatron313
    @negatron3132 ай бұрын

    Frank Herbert had to write it to further solidify the message of, "Charismatic leaders ought come with a warning, "I am dangerous to your health."

  • @matthewlambermon-southam4418
    @matthewlambermon-southam44182 ай бұрын

    "Chani dies in childbirth" and here I was this whole time I was already calling Paul DarthTreides

  • @matthewlambermon-southam4418

    @matthewlambermon-southam4418

    2 ай бұрын

    also this is set past the year 10,000. has no one ever heard of a god dam c-section?

  • @Dularr

    @Dularr

    Ай бұрын

    Spice induced eclampsia. Likely her organs were shutting down.​@@matthewlambermon-southam4418

  • @Shan_Dalamani

    @Shan_Dalamani

    Ай бұрын

    @@matthewlambermon-southam4418 That's not why she dies. The poison in the contraceptives that Irulan put in her food meant that during her pregnancy she had to basically overdose on spice to carry to term. That resulted in her metabolism speeding up to the point that the pregnancy itself killed her. That overdose is why the twins are Pre-Born, with adult consciousness in infant bodies, like Alia.

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt89382 ай бұрын

    Me hoping for dune messiah to come out one day. “That’s not hope!”

  • @Firepuma27
    @Firepuma27Ай бұрын

    I think in Villenuve's vision for Dune: Messiah, Chani may become part of the conspiracy against Paul acting as a double agent by regaining his trust and pretending to be his concubine while gaining information that would lead to his downfall. She might be reluctant at first since at the end she vowed to fight for her people, but will get a tragic reward in the end.

  • @TreyJ_mx
    @TreyJ_mx2 ай бұрын

    I think Jason Momoa could really turn in a good performance as Hayt

  • @LucyLioness100

    @LucyLioness100

    2 ай бұрын

    There’s rumors he could return 😉

  • @chrisl1832

    @chrisl1832

    Ай бұрын

    @@LucyLioness100they wouldn't be adapting messiah into movie without including aqua man

  • @Shan_Dalamani

    @Shan_Dalamani

    Ай бұрын

    @@chrisl1832 Different actors played Duncan in the two miniseries. It worked fine. It's ridiculous how the presenter in the video gushed about Momoa. He doesn't do a thing for me.

  • @MikeHudspeth
    @MikeHudspeth2 ай бұрын

    I hope Denis takes inspiration from the books but also adds his own originality to Dune: Part 3

  • @chrisl1832

    @chrisl1832

    Ай бұрын

    Fr because idk if I wanna see a Timothee, Ana, aqua man love triangle

  • @BOOGiNS

    @BOOGiNS

    Ай бұрын

    It's not dune part 3. It's dune messiah. A co.pletely different book.

  • @MikeHudspeth

    @MikeHudspeth

    Ай бұрын

    @@BOOGiNS right I know that but I hope he just takes pieces from the book. I wouldn’t mind if it’s not totally faithful to the source material and if it took some ideas from several books.

  • @LyrixNChill

    @LyrixNChill

    Ай бұрын

    @@MikeHudspethagreed. I hope they give Chani a more complete story arc and character development like they’ve been doing.

  • @grec.

    @grec.

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@chrisl1832 That's never gonna happen. Paul is Alia's brother. So no love triangle with Hayt.

  • @AndreaDoesYoga
    @AndreaDoesYoga2 ай бұрын

    Super excited for this deep dive into Dune Messiah! 🚀📘

  • @dantraficonte8752
    @dantraficonte87522 ай бұрын

    This is gonna be tough to adapt

  • @marcosalvarez9826
    @marcosalvarez9826Ай бұрын

    I feel bad for Paul.

  • @LucyLioness100
    @LucyLioness1002 ай бұрын

    I want to see Villeneuve adapt “Dune: Messiah” if he plans to do one last outing in this fantastical world

  • @mrtelevisionandmovies
    @mrtelevisionandmovies2 ай бұрын

    I think that a movie based on Dune: Messiah that serves as a sequel to Dune: Part 2 needs to happen. The first two were great so make a third one that makes a trilogy. A Dune Serie is coming in late 2024 on Max featuring Emily Watson and Mark Strong so there are more projects in the Dune franchise.

  • @Shan_Dalamani

    @Shan_Dalamani

    Ай бұрын

    That one is based on the nuDune crap by Brian and Kevin, and takes place millennia before Dune itself. It's their way of making it clear to everyone how much they don't understand about the Butlerian Jihad and the fact that the Bene Gesserit were around and trying to breed the Kwisatz Haderach well before the Jihad.

  • @machtmer
    @machtmer2 ай бұрын

    Heck at this point I want Denis to adapt “Children of Dune” and literally every other book in the “Dune” universe!!!

  • @Dani_1012

    @Dani_1012

    Ай бұрын

    I haven't read the books yet but it seems Dune fans love "Children of Dune" and the later books

  • @sawtooth808

    @sawtooth808

    28 күн бұрын

    @@Dani_1012 Do get a chance to read it, If Denis wants to adapt the entire Paul Atredes story, he kinda has to do Children of Dune

  • @CaloyEdits

    @CaloyEdits

    16 күн бұрын

    He could pass the torch to the other directors. Denis said he does not want to do Dune all his life😂

  • @nabongobong9155
    @nabongobong9155Ай бұрын

    Seeing how they done Dune, imagine if this gets adapted to big screen...

  • @dll_Rhemuth948
    @dll_Rhemuth948Ай бұрын

    I wish Denis would combine during Messiah and children of Dune. Because when you think about it, OK, at the end of Dune Messiah, Paul walk into the desert, blind and alone. But he’s not dead yet. He hast to set the way for Leto to take the golden path. Then he dies.

  • @alexedi

    @alexedi

    Ай бұрын

    exactly my thoughts. I mean, the miniseries combined them in abt 4.5 hrs. with some cutting, it could get to Return of the KIng length and REALLY finish Paul`s and Alia`s arcs with a bang.

  • @juanserna6322
    @juanserna6322Ай бұрын

    Chani wont be skeptical of pauls prophecy anymore. In pt2 jessica completely manipulated chani with the voice into participating in the water of life ritual to resuscitate paul out of the coma. Jessica knowing full well that paul was going to convert the poison anyways because of his benegeserit training did this because chani’s action would appear to be “as written” in the prophecy that was actually made up by the benegeserit. This made chani question her previous hesitations towards the fundamentalist fremen prophecy and now more align with the fundamentalists. This isnt only true for her, but also the audience of skeptic fremen who were there that day and relayed the story to their other skeptic friends, thus consequently converting the fremen to pauls side for a completely infallible jihad

  • @grazzygirl5

    @grazzygirl5

    Ай бұрын

    🤯

  • @doobadood
    @doobadood2 ай бұрын

    What happens next? Paul compared himself to the likes of Gengis Khan and Adolf Hitler. Thats what happen.

  • @TheBroGamer14082

    @TheBroGamer14082

    2 ай бұрын

    To anyone else comming across this. This is true. Stilgar even went something like "they didn't kill millions themselves? hmpf, amateurs"

  • @squanchy9755

    @squanchy9755

    Ай бұрын

    What Khan and Hitler did were rookie numbers. Paul killed 61 billion people.

  • @chaost4544
    @chaost4544Ай бұрын

    What happens next makes pre-snap Thanos death toll look tame.

  • @alext5340
    @alext53402 ай бұрын

    Now i'm interest in Dune Messiah now thanks to this video

  • @diosnelfrica590

    @diosnelfrica590

    16 күн бұрын

    Watch the tv show. It isn’t Denis’ version but it’s really good.

  • @alext5340

    @alext5340

    16 күн бұрын

    @@diosnelfrica590 i will

  • @aschoch7012
    @aschoch70122 ай бұрын

    I'M LEADING THE WAY!

  • @josephinedemarco8749
    @josephinedemarco8749Ай бұрын

    As a joke, I would love to see Dune Messiah ending with the gimmick of "it was all a dream." As much of a cop out that would be, it would narratively make sense.

  • @Ax-xN
    @Ax-xNАй бұрын

    Where’s the revived Duncan Idaho super children clones

  • @Shan_Dalamani

    @Shan_Dalamani

    Ай бұрын

    WTF are you talking about?

  • @IngrownPillow
    @IngrownPillowАй бұрын

    It should also be noted that his Jihad didn't entirely kill 61 billion. His monopolization of the Spice trade lead to billions dying from no longer having access to the addictive drug, spice

  • @iulixMAXgames
    @iulixMAXgamesАй бұрын

    The biggest problem is they should recast them because they should be much older in the next movie 🤷‍♂️

  • @CodyCoonrod

    @CodyCoonrod

    15 күн бұрын

    They could, but I think it’s more likely they’ll show a lot of the actual war brought on by Paul’s decision. My hope is we get dual plots from both the war era and the aftermath plot more directly tied to the story of the books where an older cast represents Paul and crew.

  • @rianjohannemanaoismanzon7258
    @rianjohannemanaoismanzon7258Ай бұрын

    Tim Blake Nelson Voicing Edric For Dune Messiah

  • @da_frecker_channel6375
    @da_frecker_channel63752 ай бұрын

    It'll be interesting

  • @0mr0z0
    @0mr0z0Ай бұрын

    I just wana see paul kid as a worm lol

  • @diosnelfrica590

    @diosnelfrica590

    16 күн бұрын

    That won’t happen in Messiah

  • @FabianDiazGutierrez
    @FabianDiazGutierrez2 ай бұрын

    wait what for three movie Paul stays chani.😘😘😘

  • @tobolulo
    @tobolulo2 ай бұрын

    Paul takes the path that ensures the long term survival of humanity...

  • @michaeldesilvio221
    @michaeldesilvio2212 ай бұрын

    It looks like Jar Jar Binks.😂

  • @trumanshow162
    @trumanshow162Ай бұрын

    Being a great entertainment, “Dune” also showed us the concern about the civilizational limits at that time. However, we have IT & AI improving wealth creation & distribution plus human abilities & cooperation. The original author neutralized political & religious issues with ingenious settings & tragic development. The director will make a more humane, hopeful, and informative movie adaptation for the 21st century.

  • @user-zk1nr2jz5c
    @user-zk1nr2jz5c2 ай бұрын

    ALIA OF THE KNIFE

  • @barnabuskorrum4004
    @barnabuskorrum40042 ай бұрын

    Dune must have skimmped on the 3D budget, that creature looks so fake.

  • @alexedi

    @alexedi

    Ай бұрын

    because it was from the tv miniseries circa 2000

  • @diosnelfrica590

    @diosnelfrica590

    16 күн бұрын

    This is from the TV show that adapted the 3 main books. Dune, Dune Messiah and Children of Dune

  • @fadesymetery6267
    @fadesymetery6267Ай бұрын

    How is this 8 days old with 800 likes!

  • @JediKnight207
    @JediKnight207Ай бұрын

    Paul = Anakin

  • @patrickn8355
    @patrickn8355Ай бұрын

    I think Messiah will be the last film adaptation and I’m ok with that 😂

  • @diosnelfrica590

    @diosnelfrica590

    16 күн бұрын

    Nah. They’ll likely continue down to emperor Dune. But I see them adapting things like the butlerian Jihad and all of that.

  • @davidcastro1570
    @davidcastro1570Ай бұрын

    all it needs is a final lightsaber battle

  • @MikePhilbin1966
    @MikePhilbin1966Ай бұрын

    I don't think VILLENEUVE will do any of this.

  • @MDShanto-iz6kt
    @MDShanto-iz6ktАй бұрын

    I have some explanation on the Dune movie too brother hope you feel interesting….. 1) It’s a propaganda of Cristian believe based movie….. Reason: The name of the hero Paul (saint Paul wrote bible right? So Cristian believe he is the holy spirit ) 2) The earth worm ( it’s based on The Holy Quran … Topic: Dabaatul-Ard meaning: The beast of earth ) 3) Islamic believes on Imam Mahdi. *there are many other religions references but I feel these 3 is enough for now. What you say 😊 ? Am I right?

  • @ThomasCro
    @ThomasCroАй бұрын

    Paul Attack Titan Atreides

  • @asadbajwa8957
    @asadbajwa895721 күн бұрын

    Its crazier that in Dune Messiah, Hitler is also discussed and Paul is brought in comparison with Nazis horrible holocaust.

  • @claireshaw3998
    @claireshaw3998Ай бұрын

    I don't like it when a director of a film changes the plot of the book. Dune is the greatest science fiction book of all time. Please stay true to the book.

  • @thatsreelcreative
    @thatsreelcreative9 күн бұрын

    Dune Messiah Part One should have Paul now becoming the messianic like figure across the Universe with him seeing visions of an evil antagonistic God like figure who seems to be a giant worm with a human like torso. The antagonistic supervillain even speaks to him as Paul thinks 🤔 this figure is the scourge of the Galaxy only for him to call Paul "father" and its Leto II communicating with him into the future. Paul is confused 😕 Leto II brings peace and unity to the galaxy by transforming himself into The Abomination so that The Houses can be united forever as Leto II turns himself into the bane of the Universe..Harkonian, Saduka, Freman are all united together under one banner against the God-worm Leto II

  • @wesgleeson
    @wesgleeson2 ай бұрын

    4:44 "Have you SEEN Jason Momoa?" Now imagine this was a male voiceover guy talking about an actress. Don't see much of that anymore.

  • @Shan_Dalamani

    @Shan_Dalamani

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah, seen him. Yawn. The actor in the Children of Dune miniseries was much better.

  • @grec.
    @grec.Ай бұрын

    "Paul goes into the desert as a man, no longer a god, no longer an emperor..." SPOILER: Then becomes The Preacher

  • @jorgeadairramos7469
    @jorgeadairramos74692 ай бұрын

    Hello good morning

  • @proholic
    @proholic2 ай бұрын

    what is DUNE? i never heard about it

  • @Jeremiah_Rivers76
    @Jeremiah_Rivers762 ай бұрын

    The books are too long for my liking.

  • @LucyLioness100

    @LucyLioness100

    2 ай бұрын

    They’re on audiobook so you could take your time

  • @b-retrogamer2324

    @b-retrogamer2324

    Ай бұрын

    800 pages is not long.

  • @Shan_Dalamani

    @Shan_Dalamani

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah, it takes an attention span to get through them.

  • @BOOGiNS
    @BOOGiNSАй бұрын

    Id rsther see god emporer of dune made into a movie

  • @Shan_Dalamani

    @Shan_Dalamani

    Ай бұрын

    You want an entire theatre of people to fall asleep? Most of that book is Leto blathering away to whoever he can force to listen to him have a self-pity party about how much he's sacrificed, or alternatively how close he is to killing them.

  • @cakes3958
    @cakes39582 ай бұрын

    Ooooh hey, I’m early! Do y’all like Dune?

  • @Reaperguy67

    @Reaperguy67

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes . The first one was amazing

  • @StanHalen1936

    @StanHalen1936

    2 ай бұрын

    Duuuurrrrr I'm early duuuurrrrrrr

  • @cakes3958

    @cakes3958

    2 ай бұрын

    @@StanHalen1936 you ain’t early, you 2 hours late

  • @blutomindpretzel1735
    @blutomindpretzel17352 ай бұрын

    that Children of Dune tv special was terrible. a Messiah movie has so much promise though, but it'll be over 3 hrs. It has to be!

  • @Shan_Dalamani

    @Shan_Dalamani

    Ай бұрын

    What was terrible about it? Okay, I'll admit that casting Susan Sarandon as Julie Cox's younger sister was ridiculous. I like Susan Sarandon, but she was hopelessly miscast.

  • @TheMartzyanu
    @TheMartzyanuАй бұрын

    Can we stop casting Anya Taylor-Joy in every movie now?

  • @Mr.StevenKerr
    @Mr.StevenKerrАй бұрын

    Just read the fucking book my god. Why does everyone need everything explained to them?

  • @Shan_Dalamani

    @Shan_Dalamani

    Ай бұрын

    Actually thinking and reasoning things out are apparently hard in the social media era. I read the novels back in the early/mid-'80s, and it was over 20 years before I found Dune forums online where we could discuss the books. There were some incredible discussions about so many aspects of the books. Sadly most of those sites are gone now. So many insights just zapped.

  • @AndreaRuizCa
    @AndreaRuizCaАй бұрын

    She is gone.

  • @elpatron3949
    @elpatron3949Ай бұрын

    Read the fucking book stop looking for answers on you tube , it’s an easy read too a bright mind

  • @mhero2343

    @mhero2343

    Ай бұрын

    No

  • @pdgf
    @pdgfАй бұрын

    So why make Dune Messiah when we can just watch Children of Dune 2 decades ago?! 😊😅😂

  • @SwerveNation

    @SwerveNation

    Ай бұрын

    Wont be the same story

  • @sakajungle
    @sakajungle2 ай бұрын

    I don't think Tyrion Lannister and the Hoolywwod woke patrol will allow a "dwarf" person appears as Bijazz in Dune Messiah... Villeneuve must improvise.

  • @mrcydonia

    @mrcydonia

    2 ай бұрын

    Maybe cast Danny DeVito.

  • @RumRomeo-mu2up

    @RumRomeo-mu2up

    2 ай бұрын

    Since you’re anti-woke and you sleepwalk. You must’ve been asleep during a show called Game of Thrones, and “dwarf” who was played by Peter Dinklage.

  • @henrymolina7773

    @henrymolina7773

    Ай бұрын

    They already had one in part 2. Woke patrol isn’t a real thing, it only exists on X.

  • @wiinterflowers4277

    @wiinterflowers4277

    7 күн бұрын

    @@RumRomeo-mu2up I think Peter Dinklage should play Bijazz. He was the one actor I pictured when I reread Messiah. If they age up the characters, Vanessa Kirby would work as an older Irulan (keyword: IF!). Speaking of if, they gotta include the Spacing Guild. Oh and cast Aiden Gillian (yes Littlefinger himself) as Otheym. Or even Burn Gorman. That guy is a total redflag in almost every role he plays!

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