For Bob’s next experiment, he should use a negative reverse of the same image to see if the issue fixes itself.

@frestylezz

7 ай бұрын

It will, that's how "OLED restoration" software works. OLED degradation is basically the individual subpixels wearing out. If you do the reverse, you will wear out the other subpixels. if you do that to the same level, you will end up with a "fixed" screen, albeit dimmer than when new, but no more burn-in.

@AldoInza

7 ай бұрын

Ten years later: So now I am going to spend a year to burn in the reverse of that Mr. Roger meme after we discovered his dark secret. I can still play the third Zelda BOTW trilogy game, and I forget the lizards took over the planet while I play. This video is sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends.

@manolo1039

7 ай бұрын

that's actually a technique used by some phone brands, IIRC, some samsung phones have the option to literally burn the rest of the screen, so the spots of it are "gone"

@NataSenpai

7 ай бұрын

Indeed, now the restoration experiment to see what steps to fix said intended issue to be resolved even the tiniest hint of burn in what could one do to restore the screen. ❤

@joejoe2658

7 ай бұрын

na, a Palestinian should do that test.

Holy crap! I remember when you started this test and it does not feel like it has been 2 years. Time flies. This has been a fun and interesting experiment to watch.

@duh5359

7 ай бұрын

2 year.... It cant be that long already....

@Burning_Typhoon

7 ай бұрын

I gotta admit. I feel the same... I feel like the last video was about 4-5 months ago.

@anxivty

7 ай бұрын

@@Burning_Typhoon everything since then feels like a blur

@vuxl

7 ай бұрын

same I remember the first video and it’s already the second year??

@sandgaijin

7 ай бұрын

I wonder what that electric bill was like

I hope that Bob has this in his office 10 years from now, still plugged in and running. Even if we are deep in to another console generation

@Drelochz

7 ай бұрын

im pretty sure there was a 1-2 week period where he had to stop the experiment when he moved to this office initially

I have to say, over the last two years that this has been going on, I admit defeat. I honestly thought that this would be much worse. At 18,000 hours, even gaming at 5 hours every single day, your switch would last nearly 9 years, and at that point, there is probably more wrong with your switch other than just the display.

@crd7876

7 ай бұрын

Yah my LG CX 55 has been my monitor for 3 years, over 30,000 hours with no burn in, check RTings current test videos, LG panels just keep rolling while Sony and Samsung panels burn in or die. As well I should note that at my job we have around 50 burnt in LCDs, it can happen to any panel that gets hot, and the burn in on those is not only persistent but glaringly obvious in all scenarios

@ei..

7 ай бұрын

Also remember that this was with a static image. You most likely wouldn't even notice any burnin after 18000 hours if you play different games with different huds

@0Synergy

7 ай бұрын

​@@crd7876 I have the G9 OLED which is using a newer Samsung display, I am pretty curious to see how long it will last I am a pretty avid PC gamer to.

@Vriess123

7 ай бұрын

Yeah this is not going to happen to a normal switch OLED, this was purposely made to kill the display and still took 2 years constantly on

@Valoric

7 ай бұрын

9 years at max brightness, staring at the same screen every single day doing nothing. At dynamic brightness in a normal room it'll probably last as long as the LED start breaking down from oxygen before usage becomes the main factor. Colour me impressed. Never thought OLED would get this good.

A pretty unknown fact about nintendo is their battery care. They take VERY WELL care of the batteries in the sense of never charging it too far and turning it off before the battery goes too low. This is also why the charging takes so long. My DSI XL has had multiple thousands of hours on it off of the battery and I tested the battery with a charger tester and it is ABOVE THE RATED mAH RATING (most cells are rated in minimum and not nominal capacity). Nintendo makes robust devices

@genderender

7 ай бұрын

and their ratings for battery life are shockingly accurate. when BOTW came out, i had it on wii u and made a test to play with a fully charged wii u pro controller (80 hours rated). it straight up lasted about 75-78 hours before the low battery light turned on. same with 3ds and switch battery life, never went outside the rated ranges on those consoles

@TurboPikachu

7 ай бұрын

I am blown away at how long my Switch from late 2017 is lasting between charges 6 years down the line. None of my other smart devices (like my iPhones, Apple Watches, AirPods, etc) have ever kept even 90% of their battery life after their first year

@cf3661

7 ай бұрын

@@TurboPikachuexactly, my iPhone is a little over year old and has 84% battery life 🤦‍♂️

@enzog1078

7 ай бұрын

@@cf3661mine is 2 years old and 86 percent.

@f3ryx

7 ай бұрын

Nintendo publicly recognized the switch will brick itself if you don’t charge it regularly. Nintendo makes shit devices and you are just too ignorant to realize it.

I think for battery the battery life test, another thing to account for is that your personal switch plays games most of the time it's on, where the burn in switch is constantly on the photo album, not really doing any intense processing. Might affect how the battery works, but at this point you've also proven that none of this really makes a difference. Good job!

@antoinepersonnel6509

7 ай бұрын

Doesn't make a difference that much, stressing a battery at 90+% is extremely damaging, same as under 10-20%, it's where the ios drag the most toward - or + and where chemicals damage, the task doesn't matter that much. But I suspect that it may be possible that because it's the photo app, the switch turn off charging at 100% and wait till it goes to 99 to put current again on the battery, but this 24/24 2 years straight would still have fried the battery.

@HydreigonLillipup

7 ай бұрын

​@antoinepersonnel6509 Or, the most likely case, the switch doesn't use the battery at all when plugged in, bypassing it. It keeps the battery topped up, but that would only be from power decay over time, not use. And while 80% is the golden spot for lithium battery longevity, keeping it full is a lot better than it being drained, especially completely for extended periods of time (like he mentioned having the switch in his backpack). My assumption is this burn-in switch has actually been healthier for the battery than standard use. Obviously not by a lot, 20 min isn't a huge percentage difference, but does likely go to show docked play preserves the battery by not using it at all. Edit: also about the 90%+ thing, modern batteries don't allow the charge to their true maximum capacity to avoid this. We don't know where the switch puts its limit, maybe 95% maybe 90% maybe 85%, and then makes that the maximum, the switches 100%. Phones do this too, charging your phone to 100% isn't actually fully filling the battery. On the flipside, that below 20% mark is getting hit by the standard use switch, especially if he leaves it dead in his backpack for days.

@TheFeriner

7 ай бұрын

The point about bypassing the battery when it’s full is probably correct enough, but I will add in that powering an OLED screen is a pretty significant battery drain. For smartphones it’s pretty common that just having the screen on is one of the most significant ways to drain battery. Of course playing a game is also a very demanding task but even when doing nothing, just keeping all those pixels lit up is no small task

When I got my OLED switch at launch I had the same thought. Was so careful about not leaving static things on the screen, or not to play the same game for too long. Needless to say...I no longer do any of this. This was an eye opener test for sure

@jadedfire4351

7 ай бұрын

Hahahah fr so glad to have never had any burn in issues

@funnyduck4568

5 ай бұрын

I would still make sure I doing just leave the screen on when not using but yeah it’s nice not having to worry

The update we’ve actually been waiting for

This has become my favorite mini series on YT. I hope it continues for years to come.

Let's take a moment for the GOAT that is the Switch OLED that stayed on for 2 years straight and is still fighting

@blales

7 ай бұрын

Poor link having to stand there for so long

@spookyweeb5563

4 ай бұрын

Nothing unique about this one, realistically you could assume that the majority can do this.

The burned in switch outlasted your personal switch due to battery wear. Your personal switch has been charged and discharged at least a hundred times, which degrades the battery over time. The burned in switch lasted 5 hours 14 minutes...which is 314 minutes, while your personal switch lasted 4 hours 54 minutes...which is 294 minutes. If you do the math 294/314 = 93.6% or your personal switch has 6.4% battery wear.....which sounds about right......assuming the burned in switch is at exactly 100% (Highly unlikely).........Overall, leaving your battery at 100% for two years isn't great for your battery, but still not as bad as discharging and charging it up again hundreds of times. Maybe Nintendo has an internal safety feature which drains the battery by a bit to 80 to 90%, while displaying 100% in the battery indicator without telling you after it detects it has been plugged in at 100% for a couple of weeks/months.....as a safeguard since it stays at 100% when docked for many gamers who play on TV mode only. I would love a test where you leave your switch docked for 3 months at 100%, unplug it and do a drain test........then charge it back up again and drain again....if the initial charge is lower then it might confirm my hunch. My gaming laptop has a feature that allows you to limit the battery to as low as 606%.....so my laptop has been plugged in for months stuck at 60%. Every device needs this feature.

Video ended around the 6 min mark

Thanks for this video. I regularly let me switch stay on for 2 years straight and this has been a major issue. I hope Nintendo does something to fix this😢

@Legendarydoge-bd6mz

6 ай бұрын

Cap

Thanks for keeping the experiment going this long!

Assuming you’ve spent that entire time on that one scene of breath of the wild, you have now officially kept Zelda waiting another hundred years

Most Android phones have had oled phones for many years before iPhones ever got them. These very early oled screens (or technically AMOLED) from 15+ years ago are also where a lot of the burn in panic came from

@D1cksontello

7 ай бұрын

Yeah the Vita was a great example. I still have mine somewhere and when the screen goes black there is some blobs stuck on screen from the original person who sold it to me.

@salaniorgaan2296

7 ай бұрын

​@@D1cksontelloI have that same problem too with mine. It's not noticeable tho during gameplay.

@SoukaDeezNutz

7 ай бұрын

I burned the KZread App on my PlayStation Vita. Yeah those old OLED screens suck.

@RedAugust08

7 ай бұрын

I was looking for this comment! Not to mention Android devices just kept pushing OLED displays all those years and that that's why the technology is so good now. Apple had to wait until Android device manufacturers made OLED good. That's why they are confident. They didn't do it themselves. 😂

@salaniorgaan2296

7 ай бұрын

@@RedAugust08 Wonder how many years it'll take before Apple adopts the foldable phone "gimmick". Probably not that long, because they were confident enough to get into VR with their Vision Pro.

Most modern portable devices have a circuit that will draw power from the charger before drawing power from the battery. Since the Switch was left plugged in, it probably has very few charge cycles.

Thank you for conducting this experiment and making this video. Yes it may seem mundane and boring to most people but for those of us who have had legitimate concerns with OLED burn-in, potential battery life being negatively impacted by leaving the Switch on the charging dock 24/7 and putting my travel Switch OLED in a bag and forgetting about it for months at a time, thus killing the battery... It's comforting to know that the OLED Switch is remarkably robust and thanks to your effort and dedication to this experiment, we can rest easy knowing that we can use this monumental console without having to worry about such things. In life, we already have so much more to worry about so it's refreshing to know that after this much-needed experiment can put our minds at ease so we can play the Switch however and whenever we want... just how Nintendo intended. Love your channel! I recommend it to all of my nerd friends. Keep up the great work!

THANK YOU, BOB!! Someone else also recognizes it as burn-OUT.

This just reminds me of how a lot of people told me not to buy a OLED TV, had two 4k tv's, one I had during the Switch release and the other was during PS4 Pro release. Neither one of them got burned in, because what most people don't seem to realize the TVs and other devices usually have a way to stop burning not to mention you're not going to be constantly leave it on.

The original video was the first video of yours I ever watched; introduced me to the idea of watching countless videos of products I’ll probably never buy, even on other channels lol

Would like to think that the battery did not take that much of a beating due to the console only displaying a picture, and not drawing-recharging the battery in a fast rate (basically no workload besides the OLED screen). My hypothesis would be that the battery performance would be vastly different if you were running a game for the entire 18,000 hours. P.S. kindly correct me about this theory if I'm wrong.

@raizino740

7 ай бұрын

Rudely corrects you

@TheGamingDooDoo

7 ай бұрын

@@raizino740 *goes full-on Karen mode*

@PampersRockaer

7 ай бұрын

I think running an actual game should not change the battery usage, since it does use the charger directly in the case and not drain the battery while being charged at the same time. If he would use a timed wall plug that connects/disconnected the switch every 4 hours or so, then the battery would be probably dead by now.

@MrLinkDay

7 ай бұрын

I guess the batery would use more power to run a game, but not strain it more, like the cpu or gpu maybe would.

@ryan20028

7 ай бұрын

When no screen updates are occuring the system isnt really using much for resources. Just storing an image in memory.

Awesome video. I always wondered what it would take to cause burn in. You put my mind at ease.

It’s worth noting that the iPhone clock turns off after a few seconds, it doesn’t stay on all night! Also, the sub-pixels in an OLED display don’t face individual lights, they ARE the individual lights. OLED screens don’t have a backlight, the pixels are the lights. It’s a small, but important distinction.

@firestar4430

7 ай бұрын

I have an android, but I'm pretty sure the newer pro iPhones (the ones with LTPO displays) leave the clock on screen 24/7.

@iThinkergoiMac

7 ай бұрын

@@firestar4430 It’s possible. I have the 13 Pro, and the always on display was introduced on the 14. The clock could be on all night, but if that’s the case I would be annoyed at the light.

@halami2149

7 ай бұрын

On the 14 pro and newer, the ones that have always on display, it will stay on, but not forever. It has an auto turn off that turns off the screen when it’s dark and the phone isn’t being used, aka when you’re asleep. It can tell when you’re not going to be looking at it. It will also detect for slight motion, which wakes up the screen

@christophervanzetta

7 ай бұрын

@@firestar4430Android has had that feature for over 5 years and no one complained 🤷‍♂️ I like apples approach. Let android users be the beta testers then implement the features if it goes well

@firestar4430

7 ай бұрын

@@christophervanzetta this wasn't an apple vs android comment, just an observation. I follow both platforms to see what they're up to and pick whichever one I like more at the time. I have an iPad, a windows desktop, and a macbook. Just prefer android on the phone side at the moment. Always on display was a good addition, I'm glad they finally added it (even if my wife turned it off the second she got her phone lol).

I regularly get some temporary image retention on my laptop (with word docs or other white pages), which has a LCD screen. Same with one of my old tablets. But it always fades after a short while. The only OLED I've put a significant amount of hours into is the PS Vita, and it has no obvious signs of burn in (or temp image retention).

I feel kind of satisfied finally seeing the burn in. And it's also nice to know that it takes a long time of the exact same imagine staying on the screen for anything to happen. OLED seems to be fine!

Bob yelling YAHUNGRY is one of my favorite parts of these videos 😂 I love the work you do, keep taking care of yourself!

This is something I wonder about a lot with anything Oled. Friggin awesome that you actually tested this to the extreme lol

this is the level of Nintendo quality control that we were used to, good to see that they are back to where they were after the joycon debacle

@GreekoCanuck

7 ай бұрын

Im not convince that Joycons were an only NIntendo thing. Many controllers, including PS5s has had Joycon issues. Maybe what everyone uses for the joysticks are just problematic.?

@THEpicND

7 ай бұрын

@@GreekoCanuck I’ll agree with you that most modern joysticks are bad, but joycons were the worst, I went through 3 pairs when I barely use them. I’ve had 1 modern xbox series controller that got drift and I use it much more frequently and aggressively

@genderender

7 ай бұрын

@@THEpicND small device means less robust. Low floor on quality in the industry is gonna make it more apparent

@snowpeagaming9116

7 ай бұрын

@@GreekoCanuckModern joysticks have been proven to just suck, mostly due to parts wearing down quickly. Nintendo got a lot of flac for it tho because the sticks used on the joycons were even worse than what you already find on most controllers, which i imagine is largely in part bc they’re much smaller and this more tightly packed & fragile

@CengoDevrosu

7 ай бұрын

​@@GreekoCanuckNever had problems with any other controllers. Always those cheap produced joy cons.

this series has proved that time moves by too fast, I remember when Bob started this test

Insane how I have been following this for two years. It's blowing my mind. The results are insane as well

Most I’ve had with burn-in with on my iPhone is some light screen retention that you can only really see in dim settings. After iOS 17.1 even that went away. Great vid.

@ironshadowy

7 ай бұрын

yeah that was a software bug. suprising that was

I've worked at a local tech store for a bit over a year and we worked with iphones a lot, also refurbished models. I gotta say that I've barely seen any burn in on any of the displays. I've seen it on 1 iphone Xs and one iphone X so I think it would be most likely to happen on the older models. Kinda insane to think how far oled has come

Your test on the heat is pretty awesome. If you can you should try putting the switch in a deep freeze or something and test how it operates and its battery life. Living in Canada I always worry about my switches battery life during the winter

@RAHelllord

7 ай бұрын

Low temperatures are usually not a big problem for electronic devices as long as you don't turn it on before it reaches room temperature. If you leave it in the car overnight while it drops to -20c just put it into a dry and warm room and let it acclimate for about 6 hours to ensure it's warm enough and that any potential condensation has gone away. If your switch is at risk of being in such low temperatures it might also be prudent to ensure it's turned off fully instead of just being put to sleep.

@AkaSora96

7 ай бұрын

High temperatures are worse for battery's than low temperatures

Me : hears "burn-in" My brain : CRT SCREEN

Thanks for doing all this Bob!

can't believe its been two years since the oled came out 12:04 perspective makes me feel better about having to possibly buy the oled version if the switch 2 doesn't meet expectations or is just overall ridiculously bad lol thank you bob!

Hey guys , this also applies for TV's. I was hesitant to buy an OLED tv since burning but as some one who uses it for games and movies about 2 hrs a day you need nothing to worry about . Also OLED are the best and totally worth the inversion if you are a fan of multimedia content 😊

11:30 The Switch is build for specific USB power delivery charging rate, so they would have to change it to make it work with higher charging speeds if they wanted it to have higher charging speeds. It might not be simple to change it since the charging is probably built into the SoC and not a dedicated chip that can be changed.

Wow, Nintendo released the OLED Switch two years ago?! Where did the time go?

@thehorsefromGOTs8

7 ай бұрын

langoliers

@ToonyTails

7 ай бұрын

The past. That’s where it went

The dedication!! Gotta love it!

omg its been 2 years already???

This is one of my favorite things you’ve done. Can’t wait to see more burn-in >:D

12:59 best ad for nintendo switch 10/10 Thank you for the 2 year update. i just got an OLED switch for my son and remembered your previous videos

Very happy to hear about this update. I wasn't ever concerned about burn-in for my oled, but I love to hear about it being a beast, considering I only upgraded because my previous one bricked after 3 years. :D I wonder how long it'll take before the screen is completely useless at this rate?

If you're feeling adventurous Bob, disassemble and see if the battery is bloating/pillowing at all, and see if there's any dust in the fan vents.

"sleep deprived switch cant hurt you, its not real" sleep deprived nintendo switch:

I think battery longevity wasn't much weared out because it was plugged to a wall all the time. It allows power to bypass the battery all together and deliver electricity straight from a power plug. So the battery was unused whole time

@joemamr710

7 ай бұрын

No, lithium ion batteries degrade the fastest at 100% and less than 20%. Just existing, doing nothing, whether powered on or off, at 100% causes damage to lithium ion batteries. The reason the switch didn’t degrade that much is because it probably internally limits the battery to 90% or so. Most devices don’t do that because it would mean an hour or two less of battery life. The most optimum use case for a lithium ion battery is to keep it between 40% and 60% at all times, which is what hybrid cars do, for example. If you kept a lithium ion battery between 40 and 60 percent at all times it would last 10x as many years as if you run below and above that. Check out batteryuniversity if you want to learn real things about different kinds of batteries.

@MrKinein

7 ай бұрын

@@joemamr710Thanks for the information. And what is more damaging for the battery - staying at 100% or recharge cycle?

@joemamr710

7 ай бұрын

@@MrKinein That is an excellent and complicated question! The answer is…. It depends. For the switch in particular cycles are more damaging because they artificially set “100%” at around 90%. But you remember the Samsung galaxy catching on fire issue? That’s because they set 100% at exactly 100%, so the batteries became heavily damaged through normal charging and could even catch fire from the chemical damage of remaining at 100%.

@MrKinein

7 ай бұрын

@@joemamr710 thanks for the info!

If you can come up with some type of contraption to remove and reattach the joy cons I’d be very interested to see how many times before significant wear is formed. My switch is coming up on 7 years old and the right side just doesn’t want to stay connected while attached.

This is very impressive. It seems pedantic people either are too young or have forgotten that CRT TV tubes were rated to 10-30k hours. That's not degraded that's dead and people didn't complain you got the magic smoke went "damn!" went to the local appliance store and got a new tv generally 1-2 inches bigger than the last one from 10 years ago

I love this series. I will always watch an update on this.

THIS IS CRAZY, I WAS LITERALLY THINKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS AND THE NEXT THING I KNOW YOU POSTED A VIDEO ON THE UPDATE

I love that you’ve kept the “YA HUNGRY?!?” joke going, please never stop lol. If they offer you a personalized Wulff Den code, for the love of god don’t take it. 😂😂

@TaylorThomasVideo

7 ай бұрын

It gets me everytime

I think I know why the battery was better on the burned in switch, it was constantly using power, so it wasn’t overcharging to the same degree, but still that’s pretty insane

i like the idea of a dog being a phone. Not any of its implications, but just the cartoonish idea of it

My wife has had several pixels, Pixel 3 XL, Pixel 6 Pro and now she's on to the Pixel 8 Pro. Both the 3 and the 6 had way more than acceptable burn in for the TikTok main screen buttons when you put up a white screen when she was done with them. I would imagine she's using Tiktok about as much as every other girl so I can't believe how bad it can get over 2 years of usage.

Hi Wulff Den. I was wondering how the AUDIO PORT is? If you could line the the out of the 18k oled switch into audacity and record it while on the menu so we can measure if there is any noise. For any other product, I would expect for the audio to maybe be funky. For the test I would simply get the best cables you can find ($20 at guitar center, if they are think probably clean signal enough) pop it into audacity, and simply record the machine idling as it was for the last 2 years. People will be able to take that and analyze it compared to "new" switches or what have you. So I'm wondering if the HEAT from being on all the time would maybe wear on the DATs and or interfere with the audio signal (plugged in via the head phone jacks! The speakers would probably be fine (considering they weren't used for most of its time probably "better" than a normal switch).

the battery thing actually makes sense. the burned switch was on power supply the whole time, the battery didn't go through any cycles. Your "daily" switch did so it is very much possible that the burned switch has battery in better state than the used one.

@Napfkuchen

7 ай бұрын

Exactly this. Its funny how many people are impressed but seem to have no idea how a battery works. ^^ These 2 years of almost stable voltage and no recharge cycles were actually like a wellness healthcare for the battery.

@ferna182

7 ай бұрын

@@Napfkuchen yeah I don't understand why people think that the battery is "constantly being charged" when it obviously isn't. it has built in circuitry specifically made to cut power to the battery once it's full.

I’m just here for the sponsor bits because you seem to always have fun in them. :)

Usually with electronics like that there’s smart circuitry to protect the lithium ion battery from over charge and over discharge in English once the battery is fully charged it’ll run from the wall power only until it’s unplugged

7000 hours on my lg c1 tv. Still looks brand new

@hurgcat

7 ай бұрын

I have a lg c2 and I fucking love it

It is impressive that it has taken this amount of time to have such severe burn in

Instant Thumbs Up! Can't wait for the next one! Wait, I _can_ wait for the next one. I'll _have_ to wait for the next one. But looking forward to the next one. And you just _know_ you'll need two next gen Switches the moment they come out, because one needs to start _its_ burn-in test. :)

I really appreciate all you put into this, lol. Well done.

Without a shadow of a doubt. The two least used features on my switch are... The screen The battery I wanted a Nintendo home console, and I got it.

When fully charged the power bypasses the battery. So the 2 year experiment switch hasn't used the battery almost at all

I have a qunatum dot oled tablet monitor for my art, and I've had it turned off almost constantly (when not in use) due to that ui burn in fear. Thanks for making this video. Its put things in perspective.

That's awesome I didn't even know you were still continuing the journey.

Bob, I know that basically all you did with this thing was do some slightly annoying setup to get this thing to stay on forever and then just sat it down for months at a time, but I still want to thank you. This is a good service that you’ve provided to the world by sacrificing your own property to prove a common myth wrong. Thank you.

Awesome info. A quick battery tip. Lithium batteries don't handle being fully discharged for any length of time. Just about any other scenario is fine but leaving a battery dead for any length of time will kill it. I've lost every smart watch I've owned by leaving them with dead batteries for modest lengths of time.

I used to use my Switch lite on a dock with the flip clock app. it would occasionally dim or blur the screen, "flip" the numbers, and i would change the background colors. I know it's not the same AT ALL but I did not notice any degrading of that Switch lite at all. Battery or Screen or otherwise. It was docked the whole time, and no battery life issues either. Between Gaming, travel, and otherwise not using the flip clock, i logged over 3500 hours on that "clock" app feature.

Love that timelapse with the switch at the end

It’s pretty impressive how much the issue of burn in has been minimized for OLEDs. I have a 2018-2019 ish 55” sony oled that got some minor image retention after like an hour of discord

This made me happy - I bought my first Switch, an Oled, this year in March. I have been wanting to play the two new Fire Emblem games. It's nice to know my new toy is a bit tougher than I thought. Thanks.

@21backwards78

7 ай бұрын

I bought mine in march too! I love it

The size of the switch with these gamecube styled joycons reminds me of the PSO keyboard from back in the day.

4:07 Honkai Star Rail players know how legendary that date is

The switch seems like the least susceptible sort of device to get burn in from normal use purely by the nature of what it is. It doesn’t have status symbols showing 24/7 like a phone. So it’s really good info for a switch, but not necessarily for OLED panels in general.

@amputatedhairstrands

7 ай бұрын

not really. most games have static huds and if it is, for example, a multiplayer game that you can sink hundreds or thousands of hours in, it definitely could burn the UI in of course under normal conditions it's unlikely for noticeable burn in to happen, but i wouldn't say gaming devices are the least susceptible to burn in because games all have very persistent ui elements

@alexh7513

7 ай бұрын

It‘s a much cheaper oled screen than on most phones. So it shows that oled burn in isn‘t a problem anymore. The oled technology today is much better than 5 years ago.

@pres002

7 ай бұрын

It's the same oled tech..... Bro doesn't know anything

@genderender

7 ай бұрын

phones get around the issue by simply not giving a shit that pixels degrade. iphones will run pixels at a specific brightness regardless of how degraded they are, there's no other burn-in prevention methods built in as well, static images aren't directly what cause burn-in, burn-in is a bad term from the CRT days (when it was literal). The more a OLED pixel gets used the more it degrades, this means *any* content will degrade the image over 2 years not a static one. a proper comparison is this old switch to a new one

@RAHelllord

7 ай бұрын

​@@genderenderOf course OLED burn in happens with any use but it happens faster the higher current, and thus brightness, of the individual sub pixel is. That's why the burn can be visible as shapes on the screen instead of the entire screen becoming uniformly dimmer over time. Our eyes also are more sensitive to luminosity changes in high contrast areas so shapes with sharp edges will stick out even more. To top it all off different colored subpixels require different power levels for the same perceived brightness. Iirc blue takes the lowest amount of power and red the most, meaning red pixels will always burn in the fastest and blue the slowest, making anything that's a bright red a perfect candidate for noticeable burn in.

For Nintendo's faults, their hardware engineering never disappoints.

@finadoggie

7 ай бұрын

Except on joycons lol

@Zorgot.

7 ай бұрын

@@finadoggie true ig there's that lmao

@Christopher-md7tf

7 ай бұрын

Joy-Con drift, the flimsy kickstand of the regular Switch, needing to remove the back cover of the New 3DS to take out the SD card, the terrible screen of the Wii U Gamepad, the shitty D-Pad on the Switch Pro controller, no analog triggers... I mean, should I go on? Lol

@Zorgot.

7 ай бұрын

@@Christopher-md7tf i guess, but the Wii U screen was bad? i never thought anything was wrong with it

@Christopher-md7tf

7 ай бұрын

@@Zorgot. Low res and the touch screen was pretty crappy even for 2013, being resistive instead of capacitive

I admire your dedication. This was fascinating!

I've had my V2 switch since early January 2020 (when we did our Christmas), it's sat dead for weeks or been docked for long periods of time and the battery life is still very good, haven't timed it but I take it with me on 2-3 hour road trips and it's usually still over half charged when I get home, I don't turn it off I leave it in sleep mode all the time even if I don't use it for a while and I have the brightness slider set to 50% with auto brightness turned on, the games I play on it the most are Minecraft The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild & Tears of the Kingdom and Dauntless, it's almost completely stock the only modification I did to it was replacing the thermal paste with arctic MX-4 and replacing the screws I stripped out when I opened it to change the paste.

I've been on the fence about upgrading my OG switch for an OLED but I think I'll just get a steam deck. I have a backlog of games I bought on steam sales over the years any way. Cool to see that the new screens have far less issues.

Respect to Nintendo for this beast of a device

thank you for these experiments.

10:50 if I were to wager a guess, your personal Switch goes through a lot when you play it (battery, CPU, and GPU intensive games), whereas the burn unit is almost never doing anything more advanced than displaying a static image.

Bob I want a Baby from you

That news channel burn is so cool! I'd really like to see some kind of OLED burn simulator, where you can choose a video file and generate a simulated version of what the OLED burn would look like. You could hide pictures in video!

If I had to take a guess, Nintendo did the very smart thing with bypassing the battery when fully charged and docked and only charging when the battery falls under a certain threshold. If that is true, then even though it is on and "charging", it isn't actually draining or charging the battery, so the cycling of the battery isn't happening as much as your switch that you play with all the time. I leave my original switch turned on and in the dock all the time and I feel like the battery has only lost 5-10% after 5 years.

Thanks for putting in the time for this here experiment 🤘

This is the epitome of dedication to his craft... Not sure exactly if it's a direct link to the craft of KZreadr/Tech Assessment/ Tinkerer/Gamer/News article given title, but it is fascinating and appreciated.

Gotta love your commitment, two years already sheesh. Thanks 😅

I swear Bob has the best sponsorship ads lol I don’t even skip them

Why did the intro music sound like a water level in a mario64 Rom hack? Loved it

I think actually running in game with the systems temps up it would significantly have better results because of the heat inside compared to a picture but after 2 years you'll see burns regardless

I have a 4-year old LG OLED phone that has mild burn-in. Took like 2 years to initally notice it. The rapid and severe burn-in is more of a problem with older OLEDs, like the PS Vita's OLED. In the future, MicroLED will have the benifits of OLED with the decades-long lifespan of LCDs. But until then OLED seems to be doing fine.

I just love that there are people like this,who just do things that no others would do😅 But still fun to see what would happen

I use my Samsung S22 everyday for work while leaving the screen on gps mode for basically 6 hours a day. And the burn in especially on the top notification bar is pretty noticable especially when on a white background. But never notice it unless i have a bright background.

Personally my iPhone 12 (bought in may 2022) has a tiny bit of burn in, I can distinguish top icons and the bottom bar depending on the background color and shade.

You made the same video twice and they were both some how entertaining

these videos convinced me to buy an oled switch and i love the hell out of it. always excited for the next update, hope the experiment continues for years to come!

i forgot about this test holy... i remember when you started it man