What Happened to Vox Machina After Campaign One? 📘 Critical Role Epilogues and Lore

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Read my article with more information about #VoxMachina and its members after #CriticalRole campaign one: www.flutesloot.com/what-happe...
Critical Role’s first campaign took the #DND world by storm. They’re now in their third campaign and they are thriving creatively and financially! As the years roll onward, we must not forget the heroes that started it all: the heroes of Vox Machina.
Vox Machina’s adventuring days may be over, but their lives press on. I’ll explain what they’ve been up to according to Critical Role’s new book, Tal’Dorei Reborn.
⏰Time Stamps:
00:00​ What happened to Grog Strongjaw?
00:52 What happened to Keyleth?
02:11 What happened to Percival (Percy) De Rolo?
04:39 What happened to Pike Trickfoot?
05:49 What happened to Scanlan Shorthalt?
06:53 What happened to Vax'ildan?
07:38 What happened to Vex'ahlia?
09:02 What happened to Vox Machina?
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  • @Phoen1xChan
    @Phoen1xChan2 жыл бұрын

    I was half expecting when it was Vax's turn, all that would be said was "he's dead" and then move on to the next one.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tempting haha

  • @MrChupacabra555

    @MrChupacabra555

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, I'm someone who only knows of Vox Machina due to the 'anime', so this was kind of Spoilery to me. I still don't know how/why he 'died' (as its obvious he comes back in a more powerful form), but I'm sure the animation will make his story a part of the show eventually. On Critical Role: I'm just one of those people who could never get into watching someone else play, no matter how entertaining they are (I'm an O.G. player from the late 80s when I first learned of the game, but haven't been playing much in my 'old age' now ^_^)

  • @halodude7167

    @halodude7167

    2 жыл бұрын

    But you can't say that wasn't a welcome epilogue for him, right?

  • @ShadowTeller

    @ShadowTeller

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have a character kind of inspired by Vax's turn to The Raven Queen. This sum up though would have made me play her better. The DM for the game kind of sucked, but with this new spin I want to play her again. Tess Cooper was a unusually calm calculated child. Her father, a cooper, worked for the local winery and her mother was the quintessential homemaker and pillar of the community. Tess herself didn't stand out. Not an orphan, not impolite, or prodigy, or anything more than surprisingly mature and well behaved. What made her different is the interest the Raven Mother took in her. Death never surprised or frightened her, the elderly seemed more comfortable around the child and never spoke of the exact reason she was such. The turn to remarkable happenen when she was ten. She knew Sarah was abused by her parents. They didn't care to pay attention enough or care. The Raven Mother knew what kind of person her brother was, and would become. The simple ask to push the haybale, at the right moment, to hit the right spot, that impaled the teen and saved her friend from the latest and would worst attack was so easy to hear and comply to. The Matron of Ravens taught her more from then on. Bad luck falling to those that would hinder her communities prosperity seem to land just where it needed to, death usually being the form of that bad luck. All the while Tess herself was never questioned, even seen as whatever the little hamlet could claim as an unofficial cleric. The same folk never actually grasping she actually was the sort, just to a Goddess that wasn't so readily welcome. She needed more though. Such a gifted and loyal acolyte could work much greater things. The kind girl was never lost in her adventures. The pure soul, the care and community, and charity, was always there. What else was there was the personal assassin and wet work mechanic of Raven Queen, Herself. (Tess Cooper, Neutral Good, Death Domain Cleric)

  • @Mrsoupysaucepot

    @Mrsoupysaucepot

    2 жыл бұрын

    With his stealth rolls you should’ve left it at “Vax who?” Lol

  • @C21232
    @C212322 жыл бұрын

    Hoping for a "What Happened to the Mighty Nein After Campaign Two?" in the future!

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I certainly plan on it when more is revealed in a sourcebook!

  • @MyPisceanNature
    @MyPisceanNature2 жыл бұрын

    I have a headcanon where one of Pike and Scanlan's kids gets bullied for insisting their uncle is over 8 feet tall, then Grog walks up, casting a very long shadows and says, "Hi", and the gnome kid yells, "Uncle Grog!" and climbs up to Grog's shoulders while the bully pees themselves.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your headcanon is spreading to my head :P that's fantastic

  • @Pigen_

    @Pigen_

    2 жыл бұрын

    Grog would definitely enjoy scaring a child

  • @bessieburnet9816

    @bessieburnet9816

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Pigen_ Only if that child is mean to his family.

  • @alexcockburn8975

    @alexcockburn8975

    2 жыл бұрын

    I doubt Scanlan and Pike's kids would get bullied. They are properly far too silver tongued to let a bully get one over on them.

  • @TheJerbol
    @TheJerbol2 жыл бұрын

    Grog improved his intelligence by 2 levels good job buddy!

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    What a legend!

  • @the1tigglet

    @the1tigglet

    Жыл бұрын

    Ahem it's "Buddeez" thank you very much! Bidet sir!

  • @TheJerbol

    @TheJerbol

    Жыл бұрын

    @@the1tigglet She didn't really say that in the actual campaign

  • @the1tigglet

    @the1tigglet

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheJerbol Actually I saw it she did call him buddies. ;)

  • @sharkcerer
    @sharkcerer2 жыл бұрын

    I can’t believe they gave Keyleth a special attack for falling

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    LOL

  • @couragew6260
    @couragew62602 жыл бұрын

    8:51 good to see that Vex has improved her ability with Trinket. She can *FINALLY* command Trinket as a Bonus Action

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ultimate power! :P

  • @jaredtheastralartist2510
    @jaredtheastralartist25102 жыл бұрын

    Dalens closet also might be one of my favorite episodes of the show just because how nice of a wholesome it is and how it ties everything together

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Every campaign deserves such a fine wrap up session :)

  • @ShadowTeller

    @ShadowTeller

    2 жыл бұрын

    didn't that last wish by scanlan also roll bad to end his use of the spell? Matt's liberty to let Vex wield Pike's spiritual weapon.... it is just a masterful and fitting way that the rules and rolls help and never have to hinder an amazing fulfilling story.

  • @scottreigle1756

    @scottreigle1756

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ShadowTeller It did, and Sam's smiling response was simply, "Worth it."

  • @couragew6260
    @couragew62602 жыл бұрын

    If there was ever a better example of CR being inaccurate, it would be Scanlan Shorthalt. If people didn’t know who Scanlan was (and how could they NOT) then they would soon realize that he is extremely powerful. So powerful, that if he didn’t lose the ability to cast Wish, he’d be even more terrifying (though, honestly, how Scanlan lost Wish was probably the best reason any Spellcaster could ever ask for)

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    He's certainly a legend.

  • @FlutesLoot
    @FlutesLoot2 жыл бұрын

    Taryon clearly has some fans! While I can't update the video at this point, I did spend time this morning adding a section for Taryon in my accompanying article. Read the article for full Vox Machina epilogues here: www.flutesloot.com/what-happened-to-vox-machina-epilogues-critical-role-c1/ Errors: -Pike's challenge rating is actually 17. -Typo for Vex'ahlia's name in the video.

  • @hanzohasashi9439
    @hanzohasashi94392 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see Critical Role do a short EXU campaign where Keylith is the last member left and alongside the current Champion of Ravens the cast plays a character who's ancestry can lead back to Vox Machina and they must work to fix their own Calamity level event. Bringing the world of Taldore as we know to an end

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    That sounds like an enjoyable premise!

  • @bessieburnet9816

    @bessieburnet9816

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'd love that!

  • @craigcarter947
    @craigcarter9472 жыл бұрын

    Wasn't Percy going to have a seminar/convention regularly to host inventors and tinkerers to share knowledge and their creations? I would love to have FCG and B.H. come rolling into Whitestone during this get together.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    That sounds like something Percy would do! And that would be an interesting interaction, I agree.

  • @devinspencer1678

    @devinspencer1678

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would love to have Taryon take a look at FCG.

  • @nuru666

    @nuru666

    2 жыл бұрын

    Percy and Terry would figuratively lose their minds if they met FCG

  • @bessieburnet9816

    @bessieburnet9816

    2 жыл бұрын

    And if the rest of the Hells go, imagine Percy meeting Laudna

  • @nmartinez18

    @nmartinez18

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bessieburnet9816 Imagine Laudna meeting any of Vox Machina. I would love to see how each of them react to an living/unliving memory of one of the darkest times in their lives and consequences to trying to do good.

  • @olesams
    @olesams2 жыл бұрын

    Well the thumbnail reveals it all. They all were cursed, turned into pops and got *dramatic sungalss takeoff* shelved

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    You're not wrong! :P

  • @madlad66

    @madlad66

    Жыл бұрын

    *que the CSI Miami theme "Won't get fooled again"*

  • @tomsawyerpiper9412
    @tomsawyerpiper94122 жыл бұрын

    Why do I feel like Scanlan divorcing Pike is both painfully obvious, and yet irrationally infuriating? Like, hit it and quit it just doesn’t feel right when it’s Pike.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can see where you're coming from. The book made it seem mutual and amicable, fortunately.

  • @TheBoyFromNorfolk

    @TheBoyFromNorfolk

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gnomes have such a long life, I think they might see marriage for life as a human folly. They marry, raise kids, then move on without rankor. Scanlan after all wanted pike as a wife and mother of his children, but we dont know the stigma (if any) to divorce in Exandria.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBoyFromNorfolk Great point!

  • @bessieburnet9816

    @bessieburnet9816

    2 жыл бұрын

    Feels right to me. They have the chemistry and the build up attraction due to their adventuring experience to stay together long enough to marry and produce kids, but not enough to keep it going. That's how it struck to me, given how Scanlan more liked the idea of Pike. But yeah, it is annoying when something builds up and endgame ship and then says they split after the series ended. Realistic? Yeah. But what was the point of all that if you're just gonna say they didn't work out?

  • @Dakarai_Knight

    @Dakarai_Knight

    2 жыл бұрын

    He didn't hit it and quit it. They raised kids together and still love each other even if staying married wasn't the right path for them.

  • @kenmdrt
    @kenmdrt2 жыл бұрын

    Man, I had no idea Vax went back to school for his GED. Informative video!

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's inspiring! They thought he'd be using his Boots of Haste in woodshops forever.

  • @MizuMing
    @MizuMing2 жыл бұрын

    I'm actually surprised that only one of Percy's children was a Tiefling. Deals with devils/demons end up with all offspring being Tieflings as a result. Given how the tradition of Tieflings usually goes, I would have expected all of them to be Tieflings honestly. For their unique canon ending Matt was nice and only made one of them a Tiefling I guess. 🤷

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Tal'Dorei Reborn book says Tieflings pop up in lineage unpredictably, so it's not a pervasive "gene" in every child.

  • @MizuMing

    @MizuMing

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlutesLoot Ok, so it differs in their universe.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MizuMing exactly

  • @IAMSTUPAAD
    @IAMSTUPAAD2 жыл бұрын

    I still think vex is gonna come for laudna and i am here for it

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I hadn't thought about a Vox Machina member wanting to take out Laudna when they find out about Delilah as her patron! That would be Laura's new character defending her best friend while her C1 character comes for her. :O

  • @chrisrudolf9839

    @chrisrudolf9839

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm even more hyped for Orym's potential conflict of loyalities here when he finds out, especially if his leader Keyleth gets involved. Even without knowing that Delilah was Laudna's warlock patron, he already was pondering whether he has to inform Vox Machina that the girl who was hung as a double for Vex by the Briarwoods is walking around as a sentient undead, but having Delilah as her patron would make her a major threat. Orym by now considers Laudna a friend and would certainly prefer to find a way to free her from Delilah's influence without harming her, but would Vox Machina listen to his judgement, given that he is only a subordinate member of Keyleth's guard? Keyleth might straight up order him to kill Laudna.

  • @sirken2

    @sirken2

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlutesLoot I'm still confused how Delilah become strong enough to become able to present herself as a patron. Did I miss something rather big?

  • @MorinehtarTheBlue

    @MorinehtarTheBlue

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sirken2 It has more to do with creativity and the fact that CR doesn't treat lore as hard and fast rules that the cast and guests must follow.

  • @buddyb3165

    @buddyb3165

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chrisrudolf9839 Yeah a lot of campign 1 members would be gunning for her if they found out Delilah was somehow still around and powerful enough to give someone magic. Vex and Percy are the ones I would bet on though I could see Keyleth or even The Champion of Ravens stepping in, espicaly if this turns into a Oban Yasha situation where Delilah takes full control of her.

  • @ambiej123
    @ambiej1232 жыл бұрын

    Thank GOD, I cant get my hands on an affordably priced Taldori guide. I’ve been hoping for something like this!

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad I could help :)

  • @scarlightemperor3410
    @scarlightemperor34102 жыл бұрын

    Kinda disappointed that scanlan and pike never truly stayed together. But I guess it does make sense. As Scanlan always wanted love. And he got his chance by giving love instead of receiving it with Kaylee.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'd be interested to hear Ashley and Sam's reasoning for the marriage and then divorce if anyone has heard them express why they made those decisions.

  • @carlotaperes1031
    @carlotaperes10312 жыл бұрын

    This is so great, thank you so much!

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome! I thought it'd be a fun topic.

  • @Eimi.Signo.
    @Eimi.Signo.2 жыл бұрын

    Vex'ahlia is the Mistress of Commerce on the Tal'Dorei Council, isn't she?

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, did I not mention that in the video? I thought I did.

  • @nuru666

    @nuru666

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlutesLoot You did.

  • @oddfreaks6452

    @oddfreaks6452

    2 жыл бұрын

    MORE TITLES!!!

  • @synergy8879
    @synergy88792 жыл бұрын

    vax really pulled a marc and said “yeah let’s become the champion of a pigeon deity.”

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    LOL

  • @anonymousvids2146
    @anonymousvids21462 жыл бұрын

    We need a final battle with all the PCs fighting as one against a team of all of their past main Villains. Could be super fun!

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'd watch that kind of brawl :)

  • @thatguy8577
    @thatguy85772 жыл бұрын

    Pike has a challenge rating of 17.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oops! Thank you. I think I started assuming they were all 18, and her XP yield had an 18 in it :P

  • @nmartinez18
    @nmartinez18 Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I still haven't finished the campaign myself. But I love knowing this kind of thing. I had really hoped that Whisper would have been passed down to Kynan. I think it would have been a amazing end to both arcs. Vax was the one that had first sent away Kynan, then brought him back, giving him the daggers he had originally planned to before he ran away, and then at the end he would have been given Whisper by Vax. The weapon they had gotten when they had given Kynan what he had orginally wanted. It would have been such a beautiful moment for Vax to give him the dagger with just the simple request, "I'm trusting you to protect them now."

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you enjoyed the summary! I haven't watched all of campaign one either. Your idea for Kynan sounds like it would've been a tender moment.

  • @steadfastscout4606
    @steadfastscout46062 жыл бұрын

    Terrain Darrington? (I know I miss spelled that) but Sam's alt character is a technical member of VM

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    True, I've added him to the accompanying article. He receives an epilogue in the Tal'Dorei Reborn book, and I should've included him.

  • @jonathanknight123
    @jonathanknight1232 жыл бұрын

    Where did you find the statblocks?

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    They're in the Tal'Dorei Reborn book.

  • @keroro407
    @keroro4072 жыл бұрын

    Any epilogue of Taryon and Arkhan? Also can you also do epilogues of Mighty Nein?

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I added an epilogue for Taryon on my article (link in the description) due to popular demand :) If CR drops any definitive lore about the epilogues of each MN member, I'll definitely cover it. I might look to see what's already available to make a video that is "good enough" for now haha.

  • @spencerwilliams4413
    @spencerwilliams44132 жыл бұрын

    God I need to buy the book all this comes from

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's a fun book! I recommend it, but it was sold out on CR's site last I checked. Maybe it can be found in game stores. I have a link to it in the video description.

  • @thedudejsb

    @thedudejsb

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you search it Tal’dorei reborn pdf you can find the anyflip version as well. However I’d still recommend purchasing the book if you can to run a game in Exandria and to support the creators

  • @sonofrivadin3684
    @sonofrivadin36842 жыл бұрын

    Where all of this info came from? From some book?

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's from the Tal'Dorei Reborn book :)

  • @kujiasproductions5348
    @kujiasproductions53482 жыл бұрын

    Where do we get these stats ???

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tal'Dorei Reborn

  • @foximoron499
    @foximoron499 Жыл бұрын

    Hi! I would like to know in which book comes all this information, taldorei reborn maybe? I would love to buy it if thats the case, need some help pls!

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep! It's from Tal'Dorei Reborn :) I have links in the description and a pinned comment (I think) for CR's store or Amazon.

  • @foximoron499

    @foximoron499

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FlutesLoot That´s perfect! Thnakyou very much pal :)

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    Жыл бұрын

    @@foximoron499 you're welcome!

  • @IcsulX
    @IcsulX2 жыл бұрын

    Where can i find these statblocks?

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tal'Dorei Reborn

  • @IcsulX

    @IcsulX

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlutesLoot Thank you!

  • @gleno6298
    @gleno62982 жыл бұрын

    What book are you using for map reference

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tal'Dorei Reborn

  • @gleno6298

    @gleno6298

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlutesLoot sucks it’s out of print, did they put into another box set?

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gleno6298 I'm not sure. Someone said the book can be found in local game stores, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

  • @JakeJ2HK
    @JakeJ2HK2 жыл бұрын

    Why am I crying?!

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    The memories come rushing back

  • @quincybriley4113
    @quincybriley41132 жыл бұрын

    What book has the stat block for VM

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Tal'Dorei Reborn book has the statblocks.

  • @quincybriley4113

    @quincybriley4113

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlutesLoot oh cool. I'll have to look for it. Any new player stuff. Backgrounds. Subclasses. Feats. Etc

  • @chaospatriot76
    @chaospatriot762 жыл бұрын

    What about Tary??

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I debated including Tary. I guess I should've! :P While I can't update the video at this point, I did spend time this morning adding a section for Taryon in my accompanying article that I link in the description.

  • @happyslapsgiving5421
    @happyslapsgiving54212 жыл бұрын

    Two questions: 1) Who is Vax'ahlia? 2) How could you skip the most daring and adventurous member of Vox Machina?

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mix up those two's names so much irl. I'm disappointed that I have that typo in there. I added the most daring and adventurous member of VM to the article since it was clearly a mistake to skip him. I wanted to stick to the originals, but comments have shown that it was a mistake to skip him.

  • @moniker4008
    @moniker40082 жыл бұрын

    So that's why one of them is a tiefling

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Super interesting, eh? :)

  • @Zac_Frost

    @Zac_Frost

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlutesLoot I'd say so. It really does show that there are really serious consequences to what Percy did that don't just get magicked away because he's a good guy now and learned his lesson. Shows that despite some of their creative choices that I don't super agree with or enjoy, they do stick with permanent character consequences.

  • @josephiswan588
    @josephiswan588 Жыл бұрын

    The fact that Taryon Darrington is not included with his own epilogue is a crime.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup, lock me up! I did add his to the article, though.

  • @thurmanstevenson5692
    @thurmanstevenson56922 жыл бұрын

    Where are there stats? What book?

  • @JoeKeyes

    @JoeKeyes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tal'Dorei Campaign Setting Reborn.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    What Joe said :)

  • @troisot1107
    @troisot1107 Жыл бұрын

    Could you tell more stories of Vox Machina?

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    Жыл бұрын

    I would love to. It's on my to-do list :)

  • @chansey4u624
    @chansey4u6242 жыл бұрын

    Is this from a book?

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's from the Tal'Dorei Reborn adventure setting book.

  • @deansheets
    @deansheets2 жыл бұрын

    Scanlan was the mvp of the group.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    He had his carry moments, absolutely.

  • @nuru666

    @nuru666

    2 жыл бұрын

    Damn right. On that fateful day Vox Machina were willing to fight a God, Scanlan Shorthalt was ready to fight 2.

  • @simonfsson817
    @simonfsson8172 жыл бұрын

    Is Vax the current champion of ravens? Feels like you said he wasn't... idk

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Vax is the Champion of Ravens, though the book says it's more like he has become a different being with Vax somewhere in there, more or less.

  • @simonfsson817

    @simonfsson817

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlutesLoot that makes more sense. Thanks!

  • @ashleywalla4087

    @ashleywalla4087

    2 жыл бұрын

    The way I took it when I read that part in the book is there was a living being known as Vax and that being died. Then there is a second being who is The Champion of Ravens. So when Vax died his soul became part of The Champion of Ravens, which is really just Purvan's soul I guess, unless there are other champions I don't remember right now but I don’t think so, so their souls sort of combined together into the one collective Celestial being and if there were other mortal champions of The Raven Queen in the future when they eventually permanently died their souls would also join this collective being. It was really the only way I could justify to myself the whole, Vax was Vax but he's not anymore, he is The Champion of Ravens; who is a Celestial but, The Champion isn't wholly Vax he is only a part of this Celestial; but, when Scanlan wished at the wedding for Vax to appear this being recognized enough of itself in that name that it showed up and, mostly, acted like Vax despite Vax only making up a part of its whole and it having the capacity to explain all of that to these people if it wanted to, even if it was just some stupid 'Vax is gone only Champion of Ravens left leave me alone' *instantly feathers*, which it apparently didn’t for some reason that is unknown to us. Meaning that Vax might actually have some type of control or influence within this being for it to both mostly act like him and not immediately write off his family. I have so many questions about this specifically. Is it the champions of all the gods this happens to? Are there multiple '*insert god's name here* Celestial Champion' collectives? Just the Raven Queen's champions? Just Vax cause of the deals he made with her? Therefore the being isn't even Champion + Purvan + Vax + others I might have forgotten or will eventually join; its just Champion + Vax and it always will be? If all these Celestial Champions are "real" and work in the way that each part of the collective has some control, are they fighting all the time? Is it a form of Celectial, fantasy DID and at the wedding Vax was basically just the alter that was fronting and 'Champion of Ravens' is like the system name? Am I horribly butchering my understanding of DID even in a fantasy setting? Just so many questions about the gods and cosmology of Exandria. This became a rant about so much more then you asked about so I sorry about that but it got me thinking and I couldn't stop.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ashleywalla4087 lol it was a good rant! The book did feel vague to me about this detail (probably because they don't want to write themselves into a corner). You summarized the possibilities well.

  • @antares1038
    @antares10382 жыл бұрын

    it s enought to make a grown man cry

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hearts love an epilogue :)

  • @antares1038

    @antares1038

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlutesLoot i mean IT s been a few years now but still the menories come Up and the Emotions with them

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@antares1038 even recent nostalgia hits hard

  • @johnnikyecole9114
    @johnnikyecole91142 жыл бұрын

    Dude what if the ruby of the sea was Perseus daughter that would make Jesters, Percy's and vex'ahlia his granddaughter. That would be crazy

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    That would be wild! I'd have to review the campaign timelines to see if it's possible.

  • @johnnikyecole9114

    @johnnikyecole9114

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlutesLoot yeah... It was just a thought no basis or anything but I hope so for some strange reason. Be sure to let us no if she could be

  • @stugod5000

    @stugod5000

    2 жыл бұрын

    The book takes place in 836, m9 formed around 835 and where in aeor by 836. So probably not

  • @MushyUndTingly

    @MushyUndTingly

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not likely. Vox Machina takes place in 810-812 PD. Mighty Nein takes place in 835.

  • @Direwolf181

    @Direwolf181

    2 жыл бұрын

    as interesting as it would be Marion is actually around the same age as Percy and Vex being in her late 30's at the youngest

  • @talleywa5772
    @talleywa57722 жыл бұрын

    A lvl 20 archdruid that can infinitely gain an extra ~126hp as a bonus action is the same CR as a lvl 20 Cleric who can call up her god to literally f*st you is the same CR as a big boi with an axe. Man....CR is wild 😂

  • @nuru666

    @nuru666

    2 жыл бұрын

    Applying a CR to an actual PC is like never having taken a math course and then someone hands you algebra that's in Chinese and says "solve it"

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly right, CR doesn't translate well haha

  • @petrasbirthdaygoblinhoney4565

    @petrasbirthdaygoblinhoney4565

    2 жыл бұрын

    CR in general is kinda vague tbh Things can have the same CR but one be very easy for your party to overcome and the other TPK you since party composition etc. isn’t really taken into account And then Applying it to player characters makes it even harder to gauge

  • @Mysterythehedgehog

    @Mysterythehedgehog

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, CR and PC levels don't go well together. If you end up using the CR calculator on DM's guide, you end up with situation wehre level 8 fighter is CR 5 but barbarian of same level can go be CR 8 or highter XD and the less we speak about spellcasters the better.

  • @osutuba
    @osutuba2 жыл бұрын

    When will we see this for the Mighty Nein?

  • @g0lddustt29

    @g0lddustt29

    2 жыл бұрын

    Probably never, as Explorer’s Guide to Wildemount was released officially already. CR seems to want to make Vox Machina their “main” focus as a company, with the TV show & eventual video game. Which kind of bugs me, because I loved the chaos crew & found them to be more compelling characters than VM, but…

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@g0lddustt29 I think you're correct, but I hope we're wrong and they'll release more MN content.

  • @Hazzbazz
    @Hazzbazz2 жыл бұрын

    So basicly don't ever start shit in whitestone

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    100% :P

  • @petermartin1954
    @petermartin19542 жыл бұрын

    The answer to your question as posted in the caption title is “they went Hollywood!”

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haha also true

  • @gaelofariandel6747
    @gaelofariandel67472 жыл бұрын

    Why did Pyke & Scanlan split?

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    The book doesn't describe the reason. Maybe it's the empty-nester effect since they didn't split until their children became adults.

  • @notthechosenjuan2413

    @notthechosenjuan2413

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlutesLoot yeah I hated the split, it really undercuts their relationship in retrospect. I guess character growth doesn't mean marriage stability but I don't know, them giving us no reason for the divorce is a little lazy since that's a big bombshell out of nowhere that hit two lovely people.

  • @RagnarokAvatar
    @RagnarokAvatar2 жыл бұрын

    You forgot Taryon Darrington

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Enough people commented that they wanted his epilogue, so I added Taryon's epilogue to the article linked in the description.

  • @thefallen7273
    @thefallen72732 жыл бұрын

    what about taryon darrington

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I didn't include him in the video, but I've added his epilogue to my article after viewers requested him. You can find the link to it in a pinned comment or in the video description. :)

  • @TheJerbol
    @TheJerbol2 жыл бұрын

    I doubt these challenge ratings are very accurate considering most of them were around lvl 18 when the campaign ended. Keyleth could be higher but most of them should probably be like 13/14

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, challenge ratings are strange. I'd be curious to hear how they determined CR for Vox Machina's members.

  • @TheJerbol

    @TheJerbol

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlutesLoot once you're into upper tier 3 they've gotta have some crazy shit to take on a party. Vax is CR 19 yet hold person would beat him

  • @Mark-ki7ic
    @Mark-ki7ic2 жыл бұрын

    Mighty 9 epilogue next ?

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to! If there is ever a sourcebook or if more is revealed about their epilogues, I'll definitely make that video. :)

  • @Mark-ki7ic

    @Mark-ki7ic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Other then what was in the wrap up episode, nothing has been said

  • @J0K3R_the_Nerd
    @J0K3R_the_Nerd2 жыл бұрын

    Wonder if grog ever had kids? Would be cool for CR C3 to run into him or his kin

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    That would be a lot of fun

  • @J0K3R_the_Nerd

    @J0K3R_the_Nerd

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlutesLoot I love grog and it's a bit frustrating that he's the only one that hasn't been heard of in the next two seasons

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@J0K3R_the_Nerd maybe, one day, the players will be invited to Grog's contest.

  • @simpleevan3583
    @simpleevan35832 жыл бұрын

    Sad thay scan man and pike split

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, kind of a bummer.

  • @ZarHakkar
    @ZarHakkar2 жыл бұрын

    They got turned into marketable figurines.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Every true hero's fate

  • @Grey_Codex_gaming
    @Grey_Codex_gaming Жыл бұрын

    ....honestly cr18 (15 for scanlan) for most is undershooting all of them, most are lvl 20 characters and are Kitted out to the nines

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it's difficult to assign a CR to an individual PC.

  • @DreamDragoness25
    @DreamDragoness252 жыл бұрын

    Now we need one for the Mighty Nein.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'll certainly cover them if more is revealed :)

  • @Jacob-sb3su
    @Jacob-sb3su2 жыл бұрын

    @ 2:18 turn on captions. Percy, driven by vegans.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Should I fix it or keep it? :P

  • @Generalnonsense1701
    @Generalnonsense17012 жыл бұрын

    Group challenge rating. Big mistake to siege the town with them inside

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, probably leave Whitestone alone :P

  • @fanzel123
    @fanzel123 Жыл бұрын

    Whats taryon darrington up to

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    Жыл бұрын

    I added his epilogue in the article link in the video description.

  • @fanzel123

    @fanzel123

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FlutesLoot word, lookin for it

  • @nickohhh
    @nickohhh2 жыл бұрын

    I’m not crying you’re crying

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    All must cry sometime :P

  • @guyperson7487
    @guyperson74872 жыл бұрын

    This all canon?

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, all canon from the Tal'Dorei Reborn book.

  • @guyperson7487

    @guyperson7487

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlutesLoot nice

  • @philkovach948
    @philkovach9482 жыл бұрын

    What about my boy, Taryon

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I clearly was in error omitting Taryon! I've received a few comments about Taryon. While I can't update the video at this point, I did spend time this morning adding a section for Taryon in my accompanying article that I link in the description.

  • @TheDistractingGamer
    @TheDistractingGamer2 жыл бұрын

    what the fuck? SCANLAN has the lowest CR? The MVP? The objectively most powerful player character? Holy fuck thats cap.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is controversial haha. I'd be interested in hearing the method behind their CR 15 classification of him.

  • @pvtruff6349

    @pvtruff6349

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlutesLoot let's be honest, sam thought it would be funny.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pvtruff6349 lol that might be the best assumption

  • @Zac_Frost

    @Zac_Frost

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. No one else in the party did the Scanbo Run, or constantly shut down a literal god (Vecna) lol.

  • @johnowen5662

    @johnowen5662

    2 жыл бұрын

    It might be due to the fact that Scanlan, despite being amazing at supporting his party, isn’t really able to match the rest in terms of damage output, so when he is alone he can do a ton to disrupt and annoy a group attacking him, but would probably have the hardest time killing any of them (this is also likely why Pike has a lower CR than some of the others as well)

  • @misterjkplays3920
    @misterjkplays39202 жыл бұрын

    Men I can't wait to see what the mighty Nein are doing.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I hope we get a Wildemount "Reborn" book like we did with Tal'Dorei and we get epilogues for the MN. It might be a different situation due to the WotC involvement with that book, though.

  • @st0rmboi534
    @st0rmboi5342 жыл бұрын

    Scanlan a cr of 15 is very wrong

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I'm really curious why his challenge rating is lower.

  • @thefracturedbutwhole5475

    @thefracturedbutwhole5475

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlutesLoot he is a bard, a lot of Scanlan's magic is enchantment, support, control, he can do damage but not on the same level as the others, not to say he is weak or useless (quite the opposite) but his skill set doesn't translate well into a high CR. that said, Challenge Rating is wack, I wouldn't be surprised if Scanlan who has the lowest CR just wrecks a party in 1 round with some ridiculous use of some spell, for instance; Mass Suggestion to make everyone who was trying to kill you get naked and have a dance off, the fight is over in 1 round and Scanlan never broke a sweat.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thefracturedbutwhole5475 I agree, and I wonder if this is why they made the decision with his CR.

  • @somebloke4998

    @somebloke4998

    2 жыл бұрын

    Scanlan also lost his wish spell canonically. I wonder if that contributes to his downgrading. So while he has a 9th level slot he doesn’t have a 9th level spell.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@somebloke4998 could be!

  • @brentrichards1200
    @brentrichards12002 жыл бұрын

    Firearms aren't evil.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure his perspective is affected by an evil entity helping him create them.

  • @incitingariot9925
    @incitingariot99252 жыл бұрын

    Keyleth druidic nature... not really she is and Elf. They age slowly

  • @JoeKeyes

    @JoeKeyes

    2 жыл бұрын

    As a high level druid, she ages 1 year for every 10 years that pass.

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JoeKeyes right :)

  • @bessieburnet9816

    @bessieburnet9816

    2 жыл бұрын

    And after completing her Aramente, she's got many, many, many years added to her lifespan. Girl ain't dying anytime soon.

  • @jamcdonald120
    @jamcdonald1202 жыл бұрын

    um.... kylith returned to the air ashari to be their leader, percy maried vex and they ruled whitestone together, vax died, grog went to the tavern, pike went back to the temple and eventually married skanlan. Skanlan later left and went back to markette to become the meat man again. Whats to tell?

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Statblocks, new inventions, brawl tournaments, bakery, kids, locations, challenges, political agendas, poisons, etc.

  • @NoalFarstrider
    @NoalFarstrider2 жыл бұрын

    2:13 ..... .......... .............. .................... ......................... ................................... ............................................. ...................................................... .............................................................. "BUT WHERE'D THAT RED TIEFLIENG COME FROM?!?!?!?.............?????.....VEX?!?! VEX?!?!????????? VEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!".....

  • @NoalFarstrider

    @NoalFarstrider

    2 жыл бұрын

    8:45 "Percival Fredrickstein von Musel Klossowski de Rolo III You know damn well why she's like that, YOU'RE THE ONE who made a deal with a devil!"

  • @FlutesLoot

    @FlutesLoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NoalFarstrider I can see that conversation happening

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