Genco is literally the guy they go visit in the hospital after the wedding.

@CradaOC

10 күн бұрын

True...but that is a deleted scene so most people would not have seen it

I wish they never deleted the hospital scene.i read it in the book. It's a good scene.

@balancedactguy

17 күн бұрын

Yes it is!! 👍..AND there are a number of other deleted scenes that were great, especially the scenes where the Adult Don Vito, when back in Sicily, gets revenge by killing the two guys who worked for the local Don, who wanted to find and kill him when he was a young boy, just before he escaped to the US.

@MsLogjam

16 күн бұрын

Good and scary.

@sandranorman5469

12 күн бұрын

Wish I could buy the entire Godfathers I & II in chronological order. I remember that it was shown on TV without commercial interruptions. I VCRd it and have lost the tape. Would appreciate anyone that could put me in touch with anyone who has a copy. Thanks

They absolutely never should've deleted the Genco scene.

I know what happened, he quantum leaped to 1990 and changed his name to Carbone and again worked for Deniro in Goodfellas.

He died of cancer early in the first film.

@TheMalmut

18 күн бұрын

Even believed Vito could have a talk with Death and "Make him an offer he din't refuse".

@balancedactguy

17 күн бұрын

@@TheMalmut He said that Death would see Don Vito and be afraid of him and leave Genco in peace.

They were from the same village, but not close friends. Vito didn’t talk as a kid.

@Mike-tu7uw

13 күн бұрын

I’m sure he did talk as a kid. He probably stopped talking after seeing his family murdered. His mother right before his eyes

Genco was killed and hung in a meat locker till he was frozen solid.

@EnjoySackLunch

18 күн бұрын

The ladies would agree that he was hung

@DagwoodDogwoggle

18 күн бұрын

Well done.

@stephenosullivan9016

18 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@patricktiglao

18 күн бұрын

It took two days to thaw him out for the autopsy

@Nimunda

18 күн бұрын

@@patricktiglaoA crossover joke! Genious! 👏👏👏

These videos provide insights in a very enjoyable manner. Thanks a lot - great work!

Yeah, Jencho should of have more time in the movie. The godfather is one of my favorite movies. I have seen it dozens and dozens of times.

One thing that puzzled me: Genco is so proud to show Vito his actress girlfriend (is this whom he marries, Allegra?) but when they go backstage and Fannuci threatena her and her father, Vito seems ready to attack the thug, but Genco shows cowardice and he slinks off even as a knife is held to his girl friend's face. One might think this sort of cowardly behavior would disqualify Genco from being in such a position. However, maybe Puzo and Coppola had show us this deliberately: Maybe Genco's caution is exactly why Vito chose him as an advisor. I feel like this explanation is a stretch, but I would be interested in what others think. As the video mentions, the hospital scene which was important in the book was cut completely and I think this was a very good idea because it lessened the impact of the crucial later scene in the hospital where Vito is recovering from being shot. Another version, The Godfather Saga, shows us a lot of cut scenes and in most cases, it seems to me that removing the footage was a very big improvement although some of it was quite interesting. If you read the book and watch either Saga or I guess search for video of this cut footage, you will see from stuff that obviously should have been edited out, but also interesting footage that was removed maybe to be consistent with other edits or for other reasons. There is the quite sad thing about a child star who works for Woltz -- when Hagen flies to LA and enters the sound stage, he sees a birthday celebration in which the child star receives a pony (and this is interesting based on what happens later to the studio head) -- this and some other scenes are totally removed from The Godfather but not The Saga -- the young actress, who sadly passed away before the film was released, is completely uncredited and I vaguely recall that this was at her parents' request because of the clear implication that Woltz was abusing her. The actress passed as a young teenager and this afaik is her only film role.

@intelligenthoodlum33

18 күн бұрын

I think you make a great point about Genco showing caution and logic rather than rash emotion when his girl is threatened. Vito needed someone that would not let bravado interfere with his decision making process.

@jimfree0

18 күн бұрын

If we assume that the underboss succession of the Corleone family is anything like that of the Gambino family, it doesn't make any sense to me either. Underboss became repository in 80s/90s Gambino family of their most vile sociopaths: Delacrocce, Bilotti, DeCicco, Gravano. Perhaps a better translation for *consigliere* is "undertaker". Men of reason, disconnected from the daily toil of intimidation might just be the least realistic part of the entire damn movie~!

@Byrrd51

18 күн бұрын

@@intelligenthoodlum33 Exactly.

@afernan5

17 күн бұрын

The scene also shows how feared Fannuci was. Only Vito had the courage to take him on. Even Clemenza and Tessio, brave as they are, didn't want to stand up to him. Really underscores the bravery of Vito and one of the many reason he became the Don.

@jeffmiller6954

17 күн бұрын

@@afernan5 Vito in another cut scene (was it in this video?) figures out that Fanucci is not a real boss, based on the attack by three youngsters. The man, although a genuinely awful person, is essentially a fraud.

We only really know what a consigliere is nowadays. In 1972, people wouldn’t have gotten the importance of the position

@goldcanyon340.

17 күн бұрын

Well said.

I was lucky enough to see the Godfather Saga as my first Godfather viewing and therefore saw that deleted scene and always knew who Genco was. I really think the films with the deleted scenes is the real version.

I find it so ironic how even a movie like The Godfather which many will call one of the greatest films ever made still had to cut some scenes that would have made it even better.

@EnjoySackLunch

18 күн бұрын

Relax

@baruchben-david4196

18 күн бұрын

I'd like it if they would release the movie with all the cut scenes - or at least, all the ones consistent with the story...

@benzkryptek505

18 күн бұрын

Look up the Godfather Saga, its has every deleted scene

@nathand4500

17 күн бұрын

That's not ironic.

@EnjoySackLunch

17 күн бұрын

@@nathand4500 don’t you think?

I’d love to see a Godfather Redux where all three of the films, together with the deleted scenes, are reassembled into the chronological order, and released as one. Mr Coppola, are you listening?

@rootfit

13 күн бұрын

The Godfather Epic is the name of what you refer. It was on HBO in 2016 and is the best version of this...similar to the TV movie version The Godfather Saga from the late 70's. Though, G3 is out of all.

he was standing in the crowd when sonny was beating up carlo rizzi.

@walter2695

18 күн бұрын

I caught that too. Director probably saw him and was like "Hey you! can you say, its a spicy meatball in an Italian accent? You're hired for the second movie."

@3:20 Genco didn't offer to steal food, in the movie.

@thomassiirila4927

18 күн бұрын

That's right, it was Abbandando, Sr.

Imagine If this could of come out on Netflix and been longer

I think they made the right choice regarding screentime for Genco. The focus needed to stay on Vito and Michael.

Genco was a distant relative of Vito Andolini

A Genco flashback character counseling a teenage Michael could have helped Godfather 3 in the absense of Robert Duvall. I think Genco was selected as consigliere because he most likely had many of the political and social contacts from his father's grocery. He knew the major and key players for different projects. Also, my impression is that Genco was a legitimate businessman, in contrast to Clemenza and Tessio, who were already in the rackets and gun running.

He couldn't trust clemenza or tessio. He knew that you know, but you're spot on bro. You're pretty much spot on because you would have to know jenko since he was a kid for him to trust him that much. He didn't know clemenza or tessio that long

A consiglieri wouldn't be involved in any of the illegal activities of Vito, Tessio, and Clemenza. He's the counselor, able to give objective, outside advice. He's the public face who handles delicate situations. He's not a criminal, because there needs to be someone without a criminal record to do those things a criminal cannot do

@ford-wp1yq

18 күн бұрын

Idk about godfather lore but irl the consigliere would have their own rackets from before they got promoted and would get a slice of the money kicked up to the administration.

@cameronjones8641

18 күн бұрын

​@@ford-wp1yq You are absolutely correct. The original comment is utter nonsense.

@joemckim1183

17 күн бұрын

@@cameronjones8641 Exactly, Tom Hagen is a rare case of a lawyer becoming the consiglerie. All real mafias they just promote a fellow gangster.

@Trwillis9

16 күн бұрын

Hes also supposed to be a master of the rules of cosa nostra and liason between other families, and help smooth out inner family disputes

@Filip-db2tn

16 күн бұрын

Nonsense. Consiglieri is a mobster, to become one you have to be a made men

Someone should ask Coppola if he still has any other Genco scenes he had to cut for the studio. I always thought he was too easygoing and interested in the ladies to be a wiseguy. I do remember in the book when they all come to pay respects while he is dying, and the power of the godfather fails to save him. He is one of the last direct connections to the old country.

I always wanted to know more of Tom Hagen background even though he is adopted i wanted to see him and sonny story as in the book come into film that would be dope. In the book Don Corleone unofficially adopts him meaning he was taken in and became a child of his under the same roof as the biological children out of respect of Tom Hagens biological parents he never went to do that.

There could only be so many plot lines and characters you could fit into a film as opposed to a book. What's easy to keep up with as a reader becomes convoluted, hard to follow and eventually boring for a film viewer. What made both Godfather films work was constant flow and narrative of the many stories it did include from the book if not all. It's called 'fan-service' to try and please the original fans who can never really be satisfied.

Genko disappeared just like the actor Frank Sivero who played him.

@balancedactguy

17 күн бұрын

He magically reappeared in Goodfellas!

Your videos are so good. They are short, really insightful and FREE OF EMPTY FILLER! You reveal so much that is not obvious and do it with clarity and brilliance.

@MovieMafioso

17 күн бұрын

Thank you!

As much as I would have liked to see more of this character, he was actually superfluous. He would have been, at best, a minor character in the first film and the backstory of Clemenza and Tessio was probably more important in the second.

Coppola should put out an extended version for Godfather 1 and 2. Never mind Godfather 3. The only way to improve that movie is to edit out Sofia Coppola scenes and replace it with Winona Ryder, if that is technically feasible.

vito intentionally makes clemenza his capo and enforcer before luca brazi because he knew clemenza was a hot head and vicious thus needed more supervision, on the other hand tessio was smart and cunning enough to run his own thing well enough that they thought he was independent from the Corleone family. Also vito made sure that both of them would never be allowed to meet without his knowledge or permission to avoid betrayal. Neither would have been considered to act as the consigliere

I believe the Abbandando's were family friends of the Corleone's in Sicily and Vito was raised by them in America. I think this is either referred to in the Michael in Sicily portion of the book or in the book the Sicilian if I remember correctly.

I remember a death-bed scene with the old consigliari. May have been a director cut or something

Gen I never made sense to me. He was the war time consigliere but showed fear against fanucci (opera and father’s store) and showed fear of death at the hospital. Why would that personality type be great at war?

Not Hells Kitchen, they’re in Little Italy,. The Irish were in Hells Kitchen.

Coppola cut out a lot of scenes that made sense and connected to other scenes.

The AI narration is annoying

@MWD1234567

18 күн бұрын

AI narration always is.

@ricebrown1

18 күн бұрын

It is so monotone and lifeless.

@jameswright6955

18 күн бұрын

Always is. No emotion. No intonation. Just flat

@mikefitzpatrick1213

18 күн бұрын

Very annoying.

@balancedactguy

17 күн бұрын

Agree 100%..How "expensive" must to be to have a REAL PERSON read those lines?

Wait a minute, the guy at the broadway show with Vito, the one dating the girl performing isn’t the guy Vito worked with for his father. The one in the scene at Genco store front when the landlord comes. Those were 2 different people. Are you guys all nuts or am I ?

The Godfather 1 & 2 is a masterpiece it's a shame it wasn't a longer movie.

What were Vito's choices - Genco, Clemenza and Tessio? Genco was the earliest friend before the other two strangers, Genco was a Sicilian and not a rash man.. that and further shrewd dealings would have given the godfather enough reasons to consider Genco as a consiglieri. Hagen - the adopted son- became the new Consiglieri because he was an - "American" - lawyer and wanted to work with the Don. Don trained him to be a consiglieri, so that was always a shortcoming because he was not a Sicilian, because of Hagen the Corleone family was called the Irish Gang as a joke. Hagen failed to control or anticipate the attack on Don, Luka, Sonny and the power of drug business, maybe not his fault but that was under his watch, also he had a mistress- a big issue for don and Michael as it showed lack of loyalty to his own wife and children was the reason enough for him to be side-lined later. The temper and other reason Sonny was never considered to be a good next don was that sonny was a womanizer, and that Old Don knew to be a big flaw. All that Sollozzo mess eventually had a bit of blood cleaning and paved the way to Michael becoming the Don - a shrewd successor. Mario Puzo wrote about family, loyalty and betryal.. like a Greek tragedy.

Good video except for how exactly would the store owner (papa Genco) steal groceries from himself to give to Vito?

People on here saying they should’ve left this scene in and that scene. They said it would be ten hours long if they left everything you wanted in the movie. Calm down. 😏

Genco was a wily old fox.

Gencos family smuggled Vito into America. In the book.

He's also carbone in Goodfellas

He ended up in a Freezer in the back of a truck

Are you kidding? The movie wasn’t a documentary.

Vito should have thought Tom a son and taken him to visit Geico.

He died while on the job how is that passed over? Maybe Tessio and Clemenza can make that claim but not this guy

Yes

They had to thaw him out for the autopsy

The narrator is wrong so many times lol

I'm betting that several years from now, they'll probably make a miniseries out of the Godfather that will have much more material from the book. Of course, that means Lucy Mancini will move to Nevada and live happily ever after with Dr. Jules instead of having Sonny's child and dying young.

@aishabintabubakr4944

18 күн бұрын

When did she die young in the movie?

@cameronjones8641

18 күн бұрын

If they did, Michael would become Mikhaila, Vito would be Victoria and Sonny would be Sarah and we would all enjoy a gender swapped girl boss movie about bringing down the mafia's evil patriarchal system. I hope they don't, thank you very much.

@MsLogjam

16 күн бұрын

@@aishabintabubakr4944 I don't know that she did. The only time I remember seeing her in any of the movies was in the first when she and Sonny were clinching at Connie's wedding and Tom was knocking on the door outside to tell Sonny that Vito wanted to see him. I got the impression that she was dead by part III, which would have meant she died relatively young.

@MsLogjam

16 күн бұрын

@@cameronjones8641 A miniseries would be a chance to use all of those great subplots from the book that the film didn't have time for, like the backstories of Luca Brasi and Philomena, Albert Neri, Lucy and Jules, Kay's dilemma and eventual conversion to Catholicism, Johnny and Nino, Johnny's Oscar, Johnny's wives, Nino's alcoholism, young Sonny bringing Tom home for the first time, and too many others to mention. Sounds like you have a personal issue.

@cameronjones8641

16 күн бұрын

@MsLogjam I was never questioning the potential of what it could be and I would be all over it if it was done with respect to the source material.

Culture Mafia would like to have a word with you.

Genco died of cancer

Genco Died everybody who seen the Godfathers 1 & 2 knows since 1974 😂 what happened. They even had A deleted scene were the Godfather visits a dying Genco who asks if the godfather could ask god to spare his life and Vito saying he has no such power a touching scene which i felt they should have added and i think did in later years in re- releases also why can't people narrate there own videos the lazines what happend? ??? 😂

They found him in an ice truck Took them 3 days to thaw him out bf they could do an autopsy

Last I saw he was in a meat truck... frozen solid...

And definitely genco helped Vito come into America so that's another big thing

Genco died.

He went to get the papers the papers

This guy loves to over think the movie. ITS ONLY A MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nothing-burger. In the book Genco played a part, but Tom took over when Genco got sick. Viti visited Genco in the hospital personally and Genco asked if Vito could scare away Death. Pretty disappointing....click bait

Consigliere is overblown in the movies. The role wasn't that important. He didn't earn. He often wasn't even a soldier. Heck, it was often the case that the boss's DRIVER often became the consigliere. Why? Because the driver heard everything and was in an incredibly trusted position of both driving and protecting the boss. That's why Vito could make Tom the new consiglieri, despite the fact that Tom was not only not Sicilian, he wasn't even Italian. And it's why Michael could shuffle Tom off to Nevada--he just wasn't that important to the business. The boss got most of his support from his capo regimes. In this case, that was Clemenza and Tessio. Sure, Genco was an exception, but the appointment of Tom show just what an exception it was.

@intelligenthoodlum33

18 күн бұрын

I disagree. The consigliere is very important and that's why Vito made Tom his. This move was great for two reasons. One, Tom was a lawyer. What better way to navigate a changing world than to assign the role to someone that can help you find loopholes and stay out of jail. Secondly, it sends a message to their civilian associates that they aren't the conventional greasy haired mob of the old days... they are a 'reasonable' family.

@richdouglas2311

18 күн бұрын

@@intelligenthoodlum33 Within the context of the movie, sure. I'm talking about real life.

No, he was a wartime culteliary. That's a different type of conciliary you know what I'm saying so Tom Hagen was a different sort of concierge because he knew you know a lot because he was. You know Corleone's son Vito's son adopted son you know so he was going to be concierge also because he's not Italian. You know that doesn't sit well with me but it's his son. She's constantly. He's a lawyer also. You know so he knows a lot you know and he knows all the businesses they're in. Who else could be better for concealerie than a level-headed Irishman but then again he wasn't Italian