We got ANOTHER??? Pierre-Luc Dubois trade to talk about... oh boy... What are YOUR thoughts on this 1 for 1 swap? Which team do YOU think comes out on top? And do YOU think Dubois can turn his career around? Let me know! #GravGang

@travzimmerman1340

10 күн бұрын

This trade was a lose-lose for all involved. Nobody won this one 😊

@johnsteiner292

10 күн бұрын

Washington wins IF he turns it around and plays to his potential. They get a young top 6 forward and got rid of a 5 mil a year bench rider

@wainber1

10 күн бұрын

@@johnsteiner292Perhaps a push from long-time vet Ovi will give PLD an incentive to succeed. Only time will tell though.

@AphelionBeach

10 күн бұрын

It's only hockey.... bro just cashing in for his next life's venture!! Being drafted is like

@malakaspawt3190

9 күн бұрын

I remember when some Habs fans wanted PLD, I was like, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Bad idea! He feels like a bad apple to me. However, I think he can turn his career around but I do not know what he needs to do to do that. All I hope is that Dubois doesn't hurt OV's chances to get that 891th goal! 1for1, WAS got the better on paper, so the Caps came on top in my opinion. Hopefully, his contract doesn't become a curse, because 2030-31 is a long time.🤣

What's the old saying, "hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard". Yea, that pretty much sums up PLD.

@Manuel565

10 күн бұрын

Herb Brooks. Great call

Caps finally got rid of the kuznetsov drama and then they immediately anchor themselves to pld can’t make it up😂😂

bro's on his fourth team at age 25 while being drafted third overall

@tylerlawer8750

10 күн бұрын

So was Dylan Strome

@conservativecatholic9030

10 күн бұрын

@@tylerlawer8750 I would eat my hat if Dubois ended up like Dylan Strome.

@bustywaifus

10 күн бұрын

The #3 pick curse. Galchenyuk and Kotkaniemi too have rocky careers.

@Canucksnate

10 күн бұрын

At least he’s not yakupov or puljujarvi 🤣

@SaveznaRepublikaJugoslavija

10 күн бұрын

@@Canucksnate No one said anything about my team you dolt

Still can't believe they bought capfriendly just for them to get the worst contract in the nhl 😂

@vmi4172

10 күн бұрын

They traded one of the worst goalie contracts in the league for him so the common thread here is that Caps GM😂

@jonah.donohue

10 күн бұрын

They had to see it for themselves. Historically the worst contract in the history of the nhl

@killblade6

10 күн бұрын

@jonah.donohue worst contract in the nhl currently? sure In history of the nhl? Noooooo Minnesota is still paying for the 13 year 98 mill contract with zach parise until 2028-2029 and he just retired

@QuesoBueso

10 күн бұрын

@@killblade6Darnell Nuse sucks ass lol

@senseofjustice0218

10 күн бұрын

Technically you could argue they now have two of the worst contracts in the league considering they've got Tom Wilson signed until like 2030.

When do people start looking at ownership for not canning Luc and Blake? The accumulation of asset screw ups is staggering by this management

@nolananderson4782

10 күн бұрын

Can't fire the owner

@snakuvudu

9 күн бұрын

We have. On the positive side, Blake did a darn good retool/rebuild job. PLD though was a disaster. Still scratching my head on that.

Washington has a ton of cap space and Kemper on 5m+ as a back-up when they have Shepard and Stevenson in the wings made no sense. That 8.5m cap hit isn't a problem for them especially considering they aren't going to be big FA players. The cap will go up a lot in the next few years and they have a ton of cap clearing in 2 years time. Totally worth the risk.

@dannyneiman7294

9 күн бұрын

Agreed. They can afford the risk right now. Traded an expensive backup G for potentially a 1C. See what Carberry did for Mantha, I have faith he can turn PLD around as well. (Yes I am a biased Caps fan trying to look at the positives, lol)

As a kings fan I am hugely grateful we got rid of this contract.

Great Arrested Development reference right off the bat!

The funniest thing about that Torts clip is that the next game was the one where Dubois scored a hat trick AND the game winner against the Leafs.

@HumanoidSnow

10 күн бұрын

didn't he get benched not long after ?

@theduxabides9274

10 күн бұрын

@@HumanoidSnow he was benched the season after, following his contract negotiations

Interesting thing about Dubois is that he played decent in the IIHF tournament putting up 9 points in 10 games.

@Broncos18

10 күн бұрын

And they didn't even medal

For those who did not follow PLD's junior career's in the QJMHL. He also threw a fit on his 3rd season with the Cape Breton Screaming Eagles. He then twisted the arm of Cape Breton's GM to trade him to the Blainville-Boisbriand Armada as he preferred that team as the Armada is a team in the northern suburbs of Montreal. In essence, that guy has been a huge pain in the rear for every GM of every team he ever played for since his junior days. I am so glad that the Habs did not trade for him last summer.

Good take Nathan but Kings GM Blake ( the real cancer) is trying to cover his ass by saying they did not use or put PLD in a good situation WOW Seriously no shame!!! Just for the record PLD was given every opportunity and was played on all 4 lines and still he did not produce! Kings play by play announcer Jim Fox said it the best about PLD "" AT $8.5MILL YOU ARE NOT A PLAYER THAT NEEDS OTHER PLAYERS TO MAKE YOU BETTER AT $8.5MILL YOU BETTER MAKE THE OTHER GUYS AROUND YOU BETTER"" With all the players and everything we gave up on the PLD trade with the Jets is the worst trade in Kings history!!!

@sheaandrus-oak6546

10 күн бұрын

Agreed. I like Winnipeg, so as a Canadian, thank you once he was gone, Winnipeg became great

@davidkruse4030

10 күн бұрын

This is basically a salary dump. There has to be some stipulation that they can buy him out after this year. I just don’t buy they did this trade straight up.

@donaldcrunk5983

9 күн бұрын

@@davidkruse4030the buyout is pretty cheap, Washington could absolutely afford to buy him out

@daddygrasshopper

6 күн бұрын

I remember seeing Jim Fox give his very honest thoughts and as respectfully as possible, and he was spot on. He's one of the good ones!

Having watched every game PLD played this season and playoffs here are my thoughts: 60% of the blame goes to the GM and President of Hockey Ops -they didnt deploy PLD in the roles he had found success in -they surrounded him with AHL bottom 6 players and rookies -they didnt do their due diligence on PLDs character before pulling off the trade -overpaid contract 40% of the blame goes to PLD -would phone in games -lacked drive and motivation Regarding Keumper, too many ppl are forgetting about how good LA's defensive system helps goalies. Conpare Korpisalo and Talbot's stats when they played in Ottawa vs when they played in LA. Goalies rebound when playing behind LA's defense, look at Rittich this season. Keumper will he fine. I'd predict he rebounds and averages around .920 SV next season

@karlpaquette6139

10 күн бұрын

What I've read about Kemper is that hes a goalie who plays HIS game no matter what. Some guys accepted the system or lean out of their comfort zone to keep the coaches happy. Thats NOT Kemper. And what exactly is HIS game? Staying in his net, staying calm, tracking lucks methodically, cutting down angles and letting his better than average rebound control do the heavy lifting. LAs defense will absolutely LOVE that! They dont need a lot of 5 bell saves with their system- they need a guy who can do his job and do it consistently and Kemper is going to be THAT guy- id bet dollars to doughnuts... And they move out a problematic contract? Blake will never get back Vivaldi and the rest of it hut he was never going to here- he did quite well...

@CR_240

10 күн бұрын

@@karlpaquette6139 Agreed. I think Keumper will be a good match with LA's system. He previously had over .930 SV with LA. Regarding what Blake gave up for PLD -Vilardi, very injury prone -Kupari, terrible bust -Iafallo, overpaid 4th line The pieces of value that were lost in the PLD trade were probably the 2nd Rd pick and Vilardi. Losing Kupari and Iafallo was negligible.

This is EXACTLY why I didn't want the Habs to trade for him last year. I wouldn't want him even if a team would just say: "Here just take him, we want nothing back in return". He is poison.

In a remarkable post game interview last season the Washington coach Carberry directly pointed out the lack of offensive ability in the team. You just dont see coaches shitting on their guys like that very often. Bringing in that ability was a key goal for this offseason along with offloading Darcy's contract and that explains the trade. Will we regret it? Probably.

@XaviRonaldo0

10 күн бұрын

It's worth the risk. If he hits his talent potential that contract is a bargain and if he doesn't it won't matter too much as we're going into a rebuild very soon.

@tylergreene9316

9 күн бұрын

Exactly. People dont seem to realize this. Alot of money coming off the books when our vets start retiring. ​@XaviRonaldo0

I'm a Kings fan but Rob Blake is one of the worst GM's in the league and keeps making these mistakes over and over again! He needs to go but the ownership is all best friends with each other and dont do actual business

@steveoh9285

10 күн бұрын

FIRE ROB BLAKE NOW!

I thought the chances of the Kings giving him one more year to "figure it out" were pretty high--For them not to give him that chance really tells me he was not getting on in the locker room with the group/coaches/etc. And, that's been the rub on him for years right?

Dubois has immense skill. Very talented player. He just doesn't want to put the work in. Look at an old Colorado and Columbus player Matt Calvert. Was he the most skilled player? No. He never had more than 30 points in a season. He did however give it his all every single shift. One year on the Avs he led the team in fighting majors. He's 5'11" 186lbs. He was always getting into the dirty areas, playing hard, and mucking it up. Always in the scrums. Fans and teammates LOVED this guy. His final words when he retired were, "Colorado, and Columbus, I would bleed for those teams any day". Legend. If Dubois had even HALF that work ethic, he would be a much better player. How can a guy like Calvert, who put up 4th line numbers, be more sought after than a guy like Dubois who has put up multiple 60 point seasons. Work ethic.

Yes, us Kings fans are surprised and happy about this. But the damage is already done. 3 everyday NHL ready players and a 2nd rd pick... basically for Darcy Keumper.

I think this is a definitive win for the Kings. I’d be shocked if PLD can turn it around with the Caps, nothing is impossible but if he couldn’t do it for his preferred team… I think a big part is hope by many accounts he’s a cancer in the room. If there’s discord within the room it can absolutely affect the whole team, and getting rid of that can strengthen the team as a whole. So not only do they offload a player whose salary is way too high for his performance and compete level, they also potentially improve things in the room. And without retaining salary. Big win imo

Nobody has questioned his talent. Washington is short on talent. Yeah he is expensive but Washington can afford it. They gave up nothing to get PLD as many thought Kuemper's contract was immovable. Is PLD a 1C? No. But he is certainly a 2C talent and production wise. He comes in as Washington's best and he'll get the opportunity to play big minutes. I expect him to be about 65-70pts. The term doesn't matter as if it doesn't work out, PLD will ask out and waive the NTC. Good move by Washington with zero cost, minimal risk and pretty good upside.

I get it now. THIS is why they bought out capfreindly.

I expected this video when I heard about the trade. I didn't expect the EPIC Arrested Development callback! 💯🔥

Look he's got talent just no heart no umph! Ovechkin will set him straight! There's no way he'll think he's better than him ! Humble pie time !

It might work for us…. Should I be worried as a caps fan?

@Wayf4rer

10 күн бұрын

PLD is a good player, but his attitude is horrible. If he gave even a little bit of effort he could be a great player. Caps are buying low because the buyout (if necessary) won't affect them in the post Ovechkin rebuild.

@mikelubey

10 күн бұрын

No, GMBM knows what he’s doing

@jonah.donohue

10 күн бұрын

YES!

@d9j2

10 күн бұрын

@@mikelubey😭😭 I hope so

Kings won a trade!!!😂😂 wooooooo. What the f r the caps doing? I dont like keumper but bruh 1 for 1 for dubois? 7yrs 8.5aav. 4th liner last yr. Wow

So why did the Caps do this? I've seen all the reasons, but none of this makes sense for Washington.

@Boyo-xe5fp

10 күн бұрын

The same reason the church thrives. Stupid people have faith.

@XaviRonaldo0

10 күн бұрын

Boom or bust pick-up. The boom is huge if he gets his mind right and hits his potential and the bust isn't all that bad considering they're entering a rebuild very soon and the cap is about to go up exponentially.

@backstromforsberg

10 күн бұрын

All of it makes sense for Washington. PLD paced 71 points per 82 his last season in winnipeg and 65-point pace over his last two seasons there as a 2C guy. LA traded a ton for him, mismanaged him with bottom-6 minutes, and panic-dumped him. HIs contract is brutal, but Washington does not have anyone to fill the 1C hole and they have a metric-ton of cap space.

@XaviRonaldo0

10 күн бұрын

@@backstromforsberg people are really over reacting

I don't mind getting PLD. Kuemper was one of if not the worst goalie last year. Paying him over 5mil as a backup goalie was never going to happen. Caps need another center so it makes sense.

@XaviRonaldo0

10 күн бұрын

Plus if he doesn't work out the 8.5m won't be a problem as they're entering a rebuild soon and the cap is going up. People are seriously overreacting but they always do when a big trade happens.

The Winged Wheel Podcast made the same joke as the intro, but oh my God it's just as funny watching it here 😅😂 Good stuff Gravy!

DuBois has had an agenda to get himself traded to Montreal for about four years. The teams he has played for have figured it out, and as such, refuse to send him there to spite him. In the end, Los Angeles is the clear winner here, and if the Kings can dump Pierre Luc Diva without having to retain salary, it gives me hope that Columbus can move Laine without having to retain salary as well. As P.T. Barnum once said, "There's a sucker born every minute". Ain't it the truth.

@rona6063

8 күн бұрын

Winnipeg is the clear winner. Blake has now basically traded 4 pieces for Kuemper. Woof.

I don’t know what Washington is thinking . LA was so horny to get rid of pld before his no-trade clause kicks in . Pld quits on teams he doesn’t want to be part of and now has the no-trade clause kick in.

The Alex Daigle of this generation, except he wasn't even #1 overall SMH.

That No effort shift he pulled on Torts was not a fluke. Can you imagine PLD with Tkachuck hustle? Now THAT'S the guy the league keeps hoping to see... good luck. How many teams and different coaches have tried? And Pat Brisson finessed the Kings hard on this dude to get that $$$...Master class in agenting ...

LOLLLLL 7:46 ''It's basically a bunch of Dubois on this team why not another'' 😂

Dubois got the bag and stopped putting in any effort after. Pretty relatable to be honest.

the LA signing smells of Bergevin. Bad move by L.A. By getting Bergevin on staff and then getting PLD

Great vid

Man Grav I really don’t know how to feel about this although I’m glad we got rid of Kuemper I’m not seeing great things being said about dubois….

As a Kings fan, I love this trade. I hated when we traded Kuemper, and good ridden PLD.

It is a good trade at the moment for LA, but Kuemper is basically a 2G at this point in his career while PLD has the potential to be a 1C star.

This is the second time he signed a big contract then jump teams. Oh and Nooo PLD to the Sabers.

Kings also gave up nothing of really value outside of mr glass vilardi. Also kings have bill ranford and turned cam talbot around and he was 36

If it looked like Dubois was trying out there, fans would have given him a pass. He looked passive/disinterested and never did anything to show he was willing to put in the sacrifice necessary to win. Unfortunately, he’s got a reputation, so he needed to work harder to overcome it. Instead, I think the Kings got exactly what they should have expected.

"We thought that would be the case with LA" ... Who's we? Anyone who followed Dubois, *ESPECIALLY* Jets fans were laughing their asses off the day the Dubois to LA trade was made, while everyone else was saying this would be the end of it, cause now he's where he wants...everyone who knows better would laugh and just say "Wait and see it'll be the same thing." He's too cocky! He thinks he's far better than he actually is! And therefore feels like he can get by on coasting, on putting in the minimal effort...

He’s gonna turn it around perfect fit for the caps we needed another young C for future and he’ll get to play with Ovi now

The French Alex Galchenyuk

@Beep-Boop101

10 күн бұрын

& ironically he wanted in as a Hab. Thank God that did not happen.

Wait how are Milano and Ovi like Dubois? The Milano reclamation worked and Ovi has been on the team and not a diva for 20 years.

@bradleyminoski2020

7 күн бұрын

Ovi has been a me first player his entire career. People like him, Semin, Oshie and Kuznychov (good players with dramatic attitudes) is why the Craps gave just one cup.

@jhgills9551

7 күн бұрын

@@bradleyminoski2020 Oshie was the turning point for actually winning the cup. Kuznetsov was a diva. Okay sure. Semin never won a cup and was out of the league. Ovi was never a me first player. He was an “I’m going to score” player. You can not like his game but that’s the case. Oshie is completely selfless so if you have him on your list idk what kind of hockey you’re watching homie. Hard in the corners every time, body is literally breaking down between games, he’s laying on the ground and pissing in bottles in so much pain then showing back up for the game in a couple days. This isn’t hyperbole, look it up.

I was expecting this. I bet he's requesting a trade, isn't he (pre-watch comment)

He's a child in an absolutely able star status body that aspires to be a leader only in a beer league where he can be truly worshipped. Hows a guy that's played his whole life not understand a role on what he is to do. He just requires hand holding and constant petting with treats. Will find safety and assurance once he reaches beer league status.

I think the Caps did this with an eye towards reaching the salary floor in 4 yrs, when Uvie and Carlsson are all but done, and the rebild is in full swing

Wasn't he reported that where he wanted to play is with the Habs? I wonder if now he will force a trade to the Caps to go to Montreal.

Never seen a player with one hand on his stick so much, literally looks like he's on a bag skate in an actual game.

Jets fan here...Unloading Dubois is already a win for LA.

Can you imagine not that long ago s0me of my Habs fans were ready to give up Suzuki and Caufield for PLD ……

So since the Caps didn't sign this nutty contract with Dubois, are they bound by the NMC? I remember the Canucks had a player in the last 5 years (Miller?) and they were entertaining the idea of trading him before he was resigned (I believe the contract before this one) and they chose not to honour the NTC that he signed with Tampa. Ultimately, they kept him, obviously, but they could have moved him anywhere they wanted on the contract he signed with the Bolts because they didn't sign it with him in the first place. I'm wondering if Washington has to honour the NMC.

@hawker7488

9 күн бұрын

NMCs travel with the player.

So glad he isn't a Blue Jacket. tbh, no team deserves such a scummy player.

If the caps could get mantra to get going I think they goût get Dubois to get going and I think with this trade he'll have fire in his eyes! I'm sure he's f... pissed😂

It is starting to be ridiculous after columbus to Winnipeg and LA now Washington????? that sounds bad no? 8 year contract at 8.5 mil????? what was LA thinking of anyway?

I forget who said it but on SiriusXM someone said that Dubois has all the talent in the world but he looks like he just doesn’t like hockey. Watching him all last season, it sure as hell looked like he didn’t enjoy playing hockey at all. Glad the Kings got rid of him and didnt have to give up a draft or retain any of his salary to do it.

I love the Zegras jab.

The guy probably has a huge ego and seems to be quite selfish, or at the very least immature. There is a big chance that he thinks the world owes him everything. I hope for Caps’ fans that he didn’t just stop trying because he signed his huge 8yrs contract and that he has nothing to gain anymore by putting the effort. I’m not sure why the Caps traded for him, but there is almost no way that they won’t regret it within the next few years.

Torts seen what most didn’t back then.

Imma go in a Gru voice here. In terms of PLD money. We have no PLD money.

PLD is the Anthony Rendon of hockey

The real Dubois will show up if and when he lands in Montreal. He did say he wanted to play for Montreal.

dont forget the whisper on bergevin

@mononcleantoine

10 күн бұрын

It's got his smell.all over the signing of Dubois. Still.a.looser

@MrViolaine26

10 күн бұрын

@@mononcleantoine we should thank him lol we dont do the mistake

keep going

Adrian Kempe+ 2026 2nd round to the Wings for Holl, Chiarot and Petry. LA retains 50% on the Kempe contract. Who says no

Someone need to give a Brian Dameris to James Harden type speech to PLD.

With how talbot turned out, I think kuemper will be great

Pld is a mess the caps are a mess, good match!

He is going to make his way around the league until he has worn out his welcome around the league!!!!

PLD won't EVER play up to any of his so-called potential. Having watched every single game he played this year in LA, we couldn't be more excited to get this cancer out of the organization. With Blake at the helm, our management is truly mismanaged, but I'm amazed anybody would watch tape on this guy and take on his contract. It's delusional with his track record. ELATED TO AVOID WATCHING HIM COAST AROUND THE ICE FOR THE NEXT 7 YEARS!!!!! In truth, Winnipeg did the best in gaining fantastic assets while also moving PLD. As a lifelong Kings fan, just not watching his pathetic lack of heart nightly is well worth whatever it took to cut him out of the organization. GKG.

LA dodges massive bullet getting rid of him LMAO

As a Caps fan, I'm about 50-50 on this. If PLD plays to 65-80% of his potential, I see this as an absolute win for WSH. Maybe Carbury will be able to work some magic, who knows. But getting rid of a $5.3 AAV backup tender and "upgrading" at a position of need kinda helps both teams

@vmi4172

10 күн бұрын

That's the saving grace here..but if Caps had a GM with a brain they would have made LA retain some of PLD salary. They wanted him gone so bad I can't believe they found a sucker to take him without retaining some salary.

@jeddysteve8330

10 күн бұрын

He’s a genuine top 6 forward - multiple 60 point seasons prove he can play at a high level. He CAN be that guy Washington needs now that Kuz and Backstrom are both gone, but whether he phones in shifts or gets his act sorted and puts in the effort is what makes all the difference. I hope the Caps can get the top-6 PLD instead of the bottom-6 PLD.

@bradleyminoski2020

7 күн бұрын

Lot of what ifs in that post.

Love the Crapitals move here. It'll be awful for them.

He parties too hard. Once that is out of his system in 2-3 years, he’ll deliver for the Caps.

when you say, "Caps fans" , do you mean capitals fans? or do you mean Capfriendly fans

Ovi won't put up with his shit period

How badly do you want Zegras off the Ducks man cmon

As a Sharks fan, I want to thank Rob Blake for his services. Yikes. What a horrible GM.

“A bunch of Dubios’ “ 😂

Dubois doesn't put in the effort, just like my ex. Her last name was also Dubois. 😂

Have they started calling him Hot Potato Dubois yet?

please no not buffalo we've suffered enough

Well known Canucks wanted this guy at the draft. Thanks Columbus...that said...woulda been better than Juolevi...😢

Dodged a 6’3 bullet.

Don't worry Caps fans ... PLD will be demanding a trade in a couple years.

remember that Caps have also given 4th liner Protas a 3,4 mln contract.

@BGilg

10 күн бұрын

He's a 3rd liner. He's still young so the Caps are paying for what he can turn into rather than what he is now.

As a Kings fan, he seems like a good dude, not sure what the issue is, but I hope he figures it out.

Alexander Daigle = PLD

Biggest snake oil salesman in NHL history. Laine, Vilardi, Iafallo, and probably Kuemper are more valuable than him yet still PLD got traded for those guys and MORE. The most mediocre player of all time who has convinced teams he can be a top line forward when his peak is on the 3rd line

Even if PLD produces 40-50 points a season, it's not the worst trade. (Forsberg for Erat and Latta is the worst trade ever.) The Kings didn't want to take a chance on a second season, knowing that the NTC would kick in on July 1st. PLD might play better under a younger coach that can work with diamonds in the rough. The Caps needs bodies up front. And they can afford to eat up his salary. Kings got an upgrade in nets and save face by not retaining salary or giving up picks as a sweetener. The Caps don't mind overpaying, and PLD's "dignity" is salvaged by not asking for more. Plus the Caps have a wealth in goalie prospects ready for the NHL. No place for Kuemper.

@XaviRonaldo0

10 күн бұрын

Finally someone who doesn't just overreact and thinks about it

He is going to trade himself out of the league if he doesn't realize that being in the NHL is a privilege and not a birthright

Eric Daze 2.0

more play without puck

Prolly injured this year or somethin

I gave up on Dubois the moment he gave up on his team in his famous shift. Entitled jerk.

one year with dowd and ovie he’ll be good trust (he’s still gonna be shit)😭😭😭