Thank you for this video. I was once outside Westminster Abbey and fell into a scam. I bought Oliver Cromwell's skull, or so I was told. The next day the same bloke was selling Oliver Cromwell's skull, and I challenged him. Admittedly the skull was smaller, but he said, 'Oh this was when he was a boy.'

@Stop4MotionMakr

Жыл бұрын

This is pure gold 😂

@keithblaenshet5041

Жыл бұрын

One born every minute.

@irishkazolotse

Жыл бұрын

Hilarious, you made my day! 🤣🤣🤣

@keithblaenshet5041

Жыл бұрын

Malcolm . You really need taken in hand for your own good.

@harridan.

Жыл бұрын

Cromwell's head is on a pike on the Brooklyn Bridge and i will be happy to sell you the whole thing.

This story has a moral. Quit while you're ahead!!

@peterbilt-bo1vy

8 ай бұрын

Or quit before you're just a head. 😀

"A deadly and noisesome stink" is perhaps the best way to tell someone they smell bad I've ever heard.

Cromwell's investiture cost £60,000. Today that amount would be worth approximately £15,000,000! Very interesting video again. 👏

Hello all, well Cromwell is a person who brings out a visceral reaction in people. This video isn't a political opinion piece and this isn't a political channel, it is simply an exposition of the known facts. Please be gentle with one another in the comments box.

@tytn9978

Жыл бұрын

As an amateur student of history, I certainly appreciate this video's informative perspective. The Tudor and Stuart eras of UK history have always fascinated me, and this video helps me understand the latter family's actions, post-restoration. It truly was a black-and-white world in that era!

@mikefay5698

Жыл бұрын

And the Knight moved on. Gently please said the Queen! Bye the Bye traitors certainly had their Viscera removed. Unfortunately Cromwell died of Malaria but Charles did his best!

@Witchofthewoods.

Жыл бұрын

You just keep doing an amazing job researching history and educating us who are interested. One thing you can't do is police the "professionals" in the comment section. Everyone has an opinion and not all are popular or intelligent 😂 all you do is state the FACTS and no one can argue that. I love your channel. 👑

@weswright3187

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this. I was wondering what happened to Oliver Cromwell’s remains. I actually didn’t mind him.

@pinklady7184

Жыл бұрын

I don't have pity for Cromwell. Remember he was responsible for the slavery and mass genocide of Irish nation. My Irish ancestors were nobles. They lost their aristocracy, castles and lands to Cromwell's troop. They lost everything, when they refused to denounce their Catholic faith.

Really interesting video Allan. BTW, don't let the comment section get you down. The increase in comments of a less than charitable nature are actually a sign of the success of your channel and the controversal nature of the subject, congratulations on your much deserved and well earned success.

@IReallyLikeTreessmileyface

Жыл бұрын

That's a good point, I was also going to say how since the thumbnail shows what is assumed to be a desecrated corpse (of cromwell?) Maybe people interested in the pure shock value of seeing it might have influenced some negatively, not exactly his fault, sometimes the internet is shitty :/

@STHFGDBY

Жыл бұрын

The comments are justified. Cromwell was a mass murderer, an absolute POS.

@mikefay5698

Жыл бұрын

Civil Wars are touchy subjects. As a boy all my comics portrayed the "Roundheads" as bad folk and Royalists as merry folk. After all the British had a Queen forgetting of course that the British removed the Catholic James Stuart Charles the seconds brother in 1788 resulting in an invasion by Dutch troops to install William of Orange a good Prody. Royalty being thus subordinated to Parliament. Hopefully for Charles is head of the Armed forces. King Edward the 8th and his wife and perhaps all Royalty were pro Nazi! Certainly 80% of the British Aristocracy leaned that way. Hitlers list of supporters is still secret to this day!

@Lemma01

11 ай бұрын

1688. Peace and Love, Brothers and Sisters. ❤

Thank you Allan from Arizona, USA. This story was completely---if grotesquely---fascinating!

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!

Excellent presentation and detail - and so refreshing not to have background music!

Most of the wax death masks are in pretty perfect order, especially the Ashmolean's - so the lop-sided red one looks the odd man out. The portraits of Cromwell are worth a closer look. A faint hint of a facial lop-sidedness in the nose (an unpainted scar on the cheek to the left side) of Cromwell's face, and the warts are where they should be. In most portraits of Cromwell there's a bit of *Cladette Colbert* going on. (She famously refused to be photographed or filmed from one specific side of her face and would only be lit and filmed from her preferred *one* side.) So far, portraits of Cromwell are all painted from the *right side* of his face. (That's probably more a portraits thing of the period.) The best portrait is by far the 1650 *Samuel Cooper* one. You can clearly see the assymetry in the left nostril in the nose that matches the death masks. What creeps me out most is my ex's ancestor married Cromwells favourite daughter.

@mikefay5698

Жыл бұрын

The uglier the father the more beautifull the Daughter perhaps. I think Cromwell very handsome. Charles 2 his replacement was called the Darkie by people not too fond of him. He had 27 children on the wrong side of the blanket. His brother James was responsible for the attenuation of Woyalty and possibly Parliament as at presece callapsing into Bedlam. A Chance for Charlie 3 perhaps for a return of the Monarchy Xmas Plum puddings and dancing round the Maypole and general Merriment. Wouldn't that be a GAS! He would be known as the Merry Monarch 2!

@theshamanarchist5441

Жыл бұрын

@@mikefay5698 but he'll always be a jug eared imbecile to me mate.

@theshamanarchist5441

Жыл бұрын

@Charlie Smith good job you never had any kids with her then.....?

@mikefay5698

Жыл бұрын

@@theshamanarchist5441 I have beautifull ears not at all imbecilic. You must be a simpleton. Why don't you go off to join the Azov battalion and do us all a favour. NAZI!

Truly fascinating Allan. What always fascinates me though is how remains were souvenired sometimes just for personal pleasure and not even for financial gain. Such as the sentry stuffing Cromwell's head up a chimney and Horace Wilkinson keeping it at the end of his bed. Truly dreadful things happened to the body of Catherine of Valois as well and pieces of her body were also souvenired never to be seen again. It is almost unimaginable that this could happen to a body today, let alone that of a Queen! Many thanks again for your insights Allan.

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

It couldn't happen. Catherine of Valois story is truly terrible. Shifted out of Henry VII's chapel here coffin was kept for many years just next to Henry V's tomb. Samuel Pepys even records giving her a kiss on his birthday one year. It took until the 19th century before she was given a proper burial and that was bizarre, inside an altar in her husband's chantry.

Great video. Thanks

My new favorite channel. Thanks for the brilliant content.

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Louise.

This is one of those tales that make history so exciting! Thanks for a very fascinating story!

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure, thanks for watching.

A nicely done post,very enjoyable,thank you.

@allanbarton

11 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks very much!

Superb article.

@allanbarton

11 ай бұрын

Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks for sharing your video.❤😊

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure, thanks for watching!

Fascinating. Thanks.

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Fascinating, Allan -- in a grisly sort of way...😐 Thanks, as always, for the interesting information!

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure.

Really very interesting.I had no idea the head still existed,never mind its travelling adventures.Thank you.A new subscriber here.P.S. Yes great pictures of people just casually posing with Cromwells emballed head,you know as one does,haha

Extraordinary and very interesting, thank you.

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Very fascinating. Thanks

Interesting video

Excellent…… A great bit of history expertly narrated….well done.

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

ironic that a man who fought against royalty has a royal funeral 🤔

Oliver Cromwell was my 8th Great-Granduncle. I have a portrait of him on the wall of my office.

@lawrencekedgettjr2364

Жыл бұрын

I my self am a direct decent of Oliver as well ,, I have the proof in my family genealogy,, as well a decent of Charles the first ,,,,

@HarryWHill-GA

Жыл бұрын

@@lawrencekedgettjr2364 Then we are likely 10th cousins, plus removes if any. Interestingly, when we moved in here 11 years ago, I found I had a 7th cousin living directly across the street.

@kathysears1819

Жыл бұрын

I, too, am a many-greats niece of Oliver.,(don't have the actualcount here in front of me). Also, Capt. Wm Lewis Cromwell was in the American Revolutionare War, he's a multi great nephew of Oliver, and my 5x great grandfather. .

@rosemadore446

3 күн бұрын

Show us the sketch that is cool

Goodness!!! What an interesting story. The people of England really made his pay after death for the brutality he paid out to the people, poor, rich, royal, aristocratic and religious. The fate of his body was almost comical like a scene from Black Adder. Chaucer would have had a chuckle at this.

I had never contemplated the question, what happened to Cromwell's body. I have also completely forgotten most of the details i was taught in early school about Cromwell. 😂 thanks for this reminder, i think. Enjoyed the video.😊

Wow , he certainly didn't rest in peace ! This was really interesting. I'd like to know what the relation was between Thomas and Oliver Cromwell ,

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Oliver was descended from Thomas Cromwell's nephew Richard Williams alias Cromwell.

@doctorgoodguy1

Жыл бұрын

Great question. I've always wondered about that too!

@alancoe1002

Жыл бұрын

The man that married Tho. Cromwell's daughter changed his last name from Williams to Cromwell. Then time passed.

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

@@alancoe1002 sadly all of Thomas Cromwell's own daughters died of sweating sickness before they married. It was his nephew Richard Williams (his sister's son) who changed his name to Cromwell and from whom Oliver is descended.

@dianetheisen8664

Жыл бұрын

@@doctorgoodguy1 Me, too. And I was about to ask when I saw this comment. I always suspected the 2️⃣ were related. Now I know. Thank you❗️

This was incredible and amazing 👏.

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it!

Absolutely fascinating and almost as comedic as an old o/w British movie. Excellently narrated. Thank you.

Fascinating! Thank you for sharing.

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

That's a fabulous video, thank you. I never knew these details. I'm Irish so I'll stop there. Thanks again. David

Thank you that was good.

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!

Love this. I believe I have found a kindred spirit in you with respect to the macabre. He he he…love the chuckles❤

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

I can't help myself with the chuckles, all of this just really excites me.

@toniblackmore3016

Жыл бұрын

You’ll enjoy young Alfred in the three heads video then:)

@anthonycraig1458

Жыл бұрын

Fairly gruesome stuff but fascinating!

I enjoyed every minute of this video! Thanks again, Allan!

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it David, thank you.

Great content! Very strange story but I like the way you presented it. Subscribed!

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it!

'Heraldic Funerary accoutrement'' Lovely phrase! Another brilliant video Allan- thank you

@codeslacker77

Жыл бұрын

Especially in the good old British accent.

@aileenbuckle8062

Жыл бұрын

@@codeslacker77 even better in my Scottish accent 😁

@codeslacker77

Жыл бұрын

@@aileenbuckle8062 Oh my, I wasn't aware of that. Upmost apologies

@aileenbuckle8062

Жыл бұрын

@@codeslacker77 oh no-no need to apologise at all! I actually Did mean it IS funny in my Scottish accent. No offence taken at all ❤️

That was a real informative video. I look forward to watching more.

Excellent, thank you!

Well done, and many thanks to you for this! Honestly, I've never spent much time learning about Oliver Cromwell, as he wasn't a monarch and that was where my interests lay. He was a bit of a Kipling 'The Man Who Would Be King' in the end.

@markclifford1857

Жыл бұрын

Hello 👋 Sarah. How are you doing ? Hope are you fine. I'm Mark Clifford and am from Denver Colorado, where are you from . You seem like a real country girl

@dianetheisen8664

Жыл бұрын

Sarah Green: I agree. I was never interested in Oliver Cromwell for the same reason you give. But this was very informative.

This was really good. So much great information! Thank you!!!

Love your content,I have subscribed

What a fabulous video! Thank you!

Superb video, thanks 👍

Thanks a Brilliant Video

Really well done and very interesting. Thank you.

Very interesting

Great video something l have not seen even in Documentaries about Cromwell

Amazing video!!!

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Brilliant channel

Very impressive death masks. And interesting story, thank you for posting.

What an interesting video! Thank you for posting this.😊😊

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

I so enjoyed this video Allen, keep them coming, wonderful details and storytelling👌👌👌👏👏👏

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

So glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!

new sub , excellent, looking forward to bingeing on your previous works.

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and welcome

Even with the embalming I still can’t imagine how the skull kept it’s skin and hair after 24 years exposed to the elements?

@lindareidy2091

5 ай бұрын

God didn't want him. 😂

Wow never knew this. I have subscribed to your channel and look forward to more videos thank you for your hard work

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.

excellent stuff 👍🏽

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!

"Lord Protector"-that's one heck of a dubious title for a regicidal (Charles 1) and genocidal (Ireland) destroyer from Hell itself.

@carladams8691

Жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with having a crack at the Mick dear boy.

@brendankane3546

Жыл бұрын

@@carladams8691 i neglected to mention,also fratricidal (English Civil War )

@carladams8691

Жыл бұрын

@@brendankane3546 you also neglected to mention what you were doing whilst all your parentheses were getting a well deserved spanking?

@mikefay5698

Жыл бұрын

France had a protectorate too!

@peterlangbridge4628

Жыл бұрын

@@carladams8691 And nothing wrong with Paddy getting his own back, old bean.

Thank you for this very interesting, in depth, analysis of the historical details of a man who still engenders very diverse feelings within the public’s imagination, even after all this time. You have a new subscriber, and I look forward to seeing more of your work in the future.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Shena for your subscription and kind comment. Much more to come.

Oliver Cromwell was responsible for my ancestor's death - Sir Arthur Capell who was a Royal loyalist to King Charles I.

@carladams8691

Жыл бұрын

Do you think he deserved to die? And how?

I do like a bit of history. Richard Cromwell died of old age a few hundred meters from my current abode. The longest lived English head of state before QE2. I also have a link to the Tyburn tree, A relative ended his days upon it.

I went to the Cromwell Museum in Huntingdon yesterday and it was a really interesting little place.

Thanks for this interesting video. I was near the site of the Tyburn Tree the other day and well worth visiting.

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

It gives you the shivers just to think of the horrific way so many people lost their lives there - some of whom did not deserve it.

@discover-london

Жыл бұрын

@@allanbarton Yes. Slow strangulation resulting in 'the Tyburn Jig'.

Fascinating.

Cromwell the slaver. No wonder he was hated...

Interesting and Fascinating…

Interesting video. As someone with a direct ancestor who was an officer in his army in England and Ireland, and then immigrated to the Americas not long after his death

@donnachamcgowan

Жыл бұрын

Cromwell was a Murdering Skumbag

Thank you for this very interesting video. I come from Germany and i am very interested in european royal burial sites. In 2005 and 2008 i visited London and went to Westminster Abbey. It was so amazing to see all the old graves from the kings and queens who were buried there before all the following monarchs found their last resting place in St. Georges Chapel. Unfortunately i haven't made it to Windsor Castle yet but i hope i will have the chance to go there one day. By the way, i always wanted to see a picture from the grave of Henry VIII. but i never found one. When i saw this video it was the first time i got a look on the coffins in the crypt. It was also very interesting what you told when they opened the coffins to have a look on the corpses. I really enjoyed it to listen to you. Good work. Keep it on please. Regards!😊

Wow, this story blows my mind, from beginning to end. Thank you for sharing it. I'm sitting here in the US trying to figure out if that sort of thing could have ever happened to one of our presidents. England is something else! (We would have had to put it all back, apologize to the universe, and erect a monument to his monument.)

Just a correction of a common mistake. The gallows at Tyburn, despite all the say so of experts wasn't actually where Marble Arch now stands. Cromwell's corpse was probably placed on the gallows at what is now the junction of Henrietta Place, and Cavendish Square. The square used to have "burial ground" marked on old maps, now dropped. Lady Antonia Fraser in her biography of Cromwell, quotes an old source that says that his "body was thrown onto a dung heap" Which probably means that Cavendish Square burial site, where it remains to this day along with other executed people, and overlooked by Tony Blair's house!

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Now that is really interesting thank you. I will be looking at the location later.

@mikesey1

Жыл бұрын

@@allanbarton Sorry, serious error I made with the location of Cromwell's remains. I haven't been to the area for years, so next visit I must go to Connaught Square, not Cavendish! The area around Connaught is known as "Tyburnia". This is from a scholarly site. I can't put a link here, but I copied this. Sorry about the error. ¶"Burials of corpses from Tyburn were recorded from 1689 and brought profit to the minister and churchwardens of Paddington in the late 17th and the 18th century, (fn. 12) when execution days came to be known as 'Paddington fair'. (fn. 13) Remains were also buried under the scaffold and unearthed when the area came to be built up. Among them were the presumed bones of Oliver Cromwell and fellow regicides, whose posthumous consignment to a pit at the gallows' foot in 1661 probably gave rise to William Blake's allusion to 'mournful ever-weeping Paddington" **there is a reference to the site being the junction of Connaught Square near number 49.

@mikefay5698

Жыл бұрын

Well that Ghoul did his share of killing!

@theshamanarchist5441

Жыл бұрын

@@mikefay5698 Blair, the war criminal or Cromwell, the man who sold the world (to Mannesah bin Isreal in 1656)??

Excellent 👏👏👏very interesting like him or hate he’s part of our history 👍🤗🤷‍♀️

it's nice that Cromwell had a nice adventure , meeting new people , going to many parties for a couple of hundred year's, I bet he had a blast, then again he was a puritan.

Part of Cromwell's' deathbed prayer. "Pardon such as desire to trample upon the dust of a poor worm, for they are thy people too."

What was that nice piece of music that the video opened with ?

Strange parallels with the corpse of Eva Peron!

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Very much so.

@mikefay5698

Жыл бұрын

@@allanbarton Was she desecrated in her grave. I think not. Good musical but. Lloyd the composer wanted to Hitler and Eva but too too much!

I've been studying mortuary sciences, so videos like this really intrigue me. I'm hoping to become a historian of funeral customs or a professor. I'm thrilled to have stumbled upon your channel. Keep up the great work!

@mikefay5698

Жыл бұрын

Thrilled? You must be a caprolite!

I Sugest you look up the records of the Burial Vault of the Falconberg family Vault of St Nicholas Church in Chiswick that is now sealed in Concrete!! Ask about the extra headless corpse not listed found during restorative underpining work??

Back in college, my World History prof told us that Charles II had Oliver's corpse exhumed and hung as punishment for executing his father Charles I.

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

We don't precisely know his motivation. He was certainly given a traitor's death. Most of the regicides that were living in 1660 were similarly treated.

@westaussie965

Жыл бұрын

Yes, that’s what it says it this video 😂

Fascinating, if a bit grizzly. Thank you for your research and elucidation of this end to a disturbing era in British history.

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

Very grizzly, I think I am ready for a pause on the grizzly details for a while on here however fascinating. Thanks for commenting.

@peterbilt-bo1vy

8 ай бұрын

​@@allanbartonDon't mean to be macabre but I would rather you not hold back on any information. I think it is quite important to be told all the facts. I don't have enough time to do much research so I do appreciate your providing as much detail as you can. Just my humble opinion, hoping you will give it some serious consideration.

@allanbarton

8 ай бұрын

In truth @@peterbilt-bo1vy I don't really hold back! I give you everything I have warts and all (pun intended).

Steeleye Span's song "Cromwell's Skull" is a must-listen.

I never cared much about Oliver Cromwell except to wonder if he was related to Thomas Cromwell of the Tudor era (and I found out he is by 1️⃣ of the comments here). However, I found this video 📹 very interesting. Thank you

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure Diane.

One thing I noticed on the “royal” Arms of the Lord Protector, is that the supporters are a crowned Lion and a Dragon, instead of the Unicorn . Why the Dragon? was he of Welsh descent? i see the harp of Ireland and the cross of St George for England and the cross of St Andrew for Scotland on his shield, but what does that smallL Lion Rampant overlay. signify? And then you showed his arms impaled with that of his wife, whiich is three Lions Passant, what does it tel about her? and of course the shield is surmountd by a red crown? or cap embroidered with pearls .It all looks very grand, i am not an exper on healdry, but very inerested and trying to “read” the symbology. You mentioned “Acheivements”, what are they? Thank you. thisi has so very interesting and educational. And , also, what does the latin inscription under the arms say? i can make out Pax and Bello., peace and war, please. ?

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

The escutcheon (the little shield) is the arms of Cromwell himself. The dragon represents Wales. An achievement is a coat of arms, with supporters (the lion and dragon) along with the helmet and mantling on top and the crown. Everything that expresses the status of the person who bears the coat of arms.

Well, just when I thought I'd heard everything here comes Allan with a truly bizarre story. All I can say is...Thanks.

Excellent forensics, now BNA and case closed.

If people have an opinion they should express themselves. I definitely understand why Cromwell was treated thusly. It caused Charles II an amazing amount of pain as well as the people. The situation as I have read is due to Charles I inability to judge the climate of situation until it was too late. I really don't have much sympathy for Charles, but understand I wouldn't have been a fan of living under the REIGN of the Lord PROTECTOR. Not one of Englands greatest moments.

@markclifford1857

Жыл бұрын

Hello 👋 Kathryn. How are you doing ? Hope are you fine. I'm Mark Clifford and am from Denver Colorado, where are you from . You seem like a real country girl

@theshamanarchist5441

Жыл бұрын

@@markclifford1857 You creepy fooker. This is youtube not tinder FFS!!

@theshamanarchist5441

Жыл бұрын

The worst man in human history since Akhenaten.

@Fanakapan222

Жыл бұрын

Not one of England's greatest moments ? It was probably as great a moment as forcing John Lackland to Runnymede, in that it was a crucial step in the development of the Anglo Saxon form of democracy whereby rulers are prevented from absolute power. Certainly Charles II came back with the clear impression that the ideas of his father about princely divine right would not be tolerated. His brother chose to ignore what lead to the Commonwealth, and was ignominiously booted out, with Parliament enforcing its supremacy, and drawing up the Bill of Rights.

@jasonallen6081

Жыл бұрын

​@@Fanakapan222The Anglo-saxon period ended in 1066 You're talking about the plantagenets. The Anglo-saxons had long since gone.

I didn't know Cromwell was given the title His Highness!! He was King in all but name!! Considering that Cromwell was a Puritan, I'm surprised he had such an elaborate funeral!! I thought Puritans frowned upon such things!! Even though Oliver Cromwell was no angel, I think how his body was treated after he died was ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!! I suppose his enemies wanted their revenge, albeit a macabre one!! Thanks for this VERY INFORMATIVE video, Allan!! 💚💖👍

@BillSikes.

Жыл бұрын

He deserved it ! Check out what he did in Ireland. No One Escapes "The Law of Karma" 🙏

@acidmack1041

Жыл бұрын

He deserved everything he got...its just a shame he was dead by then and it did not happen whilst he was alive

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

It is appalling, but was perhaps seen as a fitting end at this time to this time of trouble, a cleaning almost. Difficult to imagine.

@toniblackmore3016

Жыл бұрын

Didn’t know about the title either. Fact completely absent from the interregnum course I did in third year history, and the source materials we used.

Thank you for a really interesting video. I don't know the British history so well, i didn't know that there was before a differrent Commonwealth than now. Why on earth did they bury Cromwell's head? Ok, it is creepy, but the decapitated head on a pole would be a really insteresting peace in a church or museum.

True or not, quite an interesting account. The wart sold me!

That head really got around.

Thank you for this broadcast! You took the sting out of a dreadful man in your narrative.

Thank-you. My interest in this is the fact that a huge statue of Cromwell is outside Westminster Hall between it and the road. That story must be somewhere: from exhumation, decapitation, public shaming and, then, to monumental statuary. Hmmm . . .

@alancoe1002

Жыл бұрын

Simple: they could desecrate his corpse, but they couldn't beat him in the field, or at Westminster. They never arrested his son Richard, who was his less successful successor. The King didn't come back for two years after his death. Cautious.

@mikefay5698

Жыл бұрын

Your quite right. He advanced England to being Europe's most advanced country. No one will pull his statue down. Since he advanced England to being the premier country in Europe. Desecrating corpses is about the utmost level Woyalty reaches with this horrible macabre and disgusting and morbid tale!

@johncourtneidge

Жыл бұрын

@@alancoe1002 thank-you!

@johncourtneidge

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The history of the promotion of the Statue from proposal to erection must be well documented somewhere.

@johncourtneidge

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@@mikefay5698 thank-you!

The narrator does not mention it, but the Josiah Wilkinson who bought the head in 1815 happened to be the brother of Priscilla Wilkinson, the wife of David Ricardo MP, the well-known economist - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ricardo , (whose house, Gatcombe Park, is currently the home of Princess Anne). David Ricardo was my great-grandfather's uncle, and my mother told me about Canon Wilkinson keeping Cromwell's head (I imagined it as a paper-weight on his desk...!) There is correspondence between David Ricardo and his brother-in-law about the head.

I’m glad there’s no family resemblance.... mind you I’ve woken up with a few hangovers where I’ve felt like he looked in the bloody spike 🤪😄 the wart thing runs in the family though , I remember having the one on my eyelid removed when I was 7!

music/ tune in the beginning?

Great video. With hindsight Cromwell may have been better opting for a cremation. 🤔

A bizarre tale it is too. Sounds like there was a lot of insanity going around. First, he's a pseudo king, then he is a traitor, then they play silly buggers with his head for the next 2 centuries, what a debâcle.

@allanbarton

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It is rather - bizarre by our modern standards.

@forthrightgambitia1032

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​@@allanbarton Although this was fairly standard treatment for those who fell foul of political changes or power plays for most of human history. The bloodless consitutionalism of modern advanced states is the exception in human history, not the rule. One only need look at what happened to those who refused to follow along the reformation under Henry VIII such as Sir Thomas Moore, the undignified burial of Richard III, the humiliating death of Richard II. Who knows how Henry VI or Edward V died. The attainder of Earl of Strafford, the deaths of Thomas Cromwell or Sir Walter Raleigh. There's Lady Jane Grey's death or the burning of Archbishop Cranmer by Queen Mary. Consider the sad case Mary Queen of Scots being imprisoned for years before finally being dispatched by Elizabeth. And Charles II was lucky to escape when he did else he would have been unlikely to be have survived. Politics was a brutal life-or-death struggle back then.

@mikefay5698

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@@allanbarton No worse than deliberately cutting off your gas and blowing it up!

How did they preserve Cromwells body for the 7 -9 week viewing? I’m very curious

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

They wrapped it in waxed cloth and then enclosed it in lead.

But wasn't Cromwell against such pomp and richary ? I have tried to research this myself without much success. Bit puzzled here so would appreciate comments of wisdom 😊 . Thanks for any knowledge giving . Edit : why is the word Commonwealth used, did it have a different connotation then ?

@Anastas1786

Жыл бұрын

A commonwealth used to be any government explicitly founded for... well, the _"common wealth",_ that is to say, for the good of _all_ the people in it. In the 17th Century, "Commonwealth" was the English word for "Republic". Note the Latin inscriptions on some of the things in the video. In _English,_ Cromwell was the Lord Protector of the Commonwealth of England, Scotland, and Ireland, which the translators of the time rendered as "Protector _Republicae_ Angliae, Scotiae, et Hiberniae". When France and the United States decided to stick with the Latin, "commonwealth" moved to the background and "republic" became the generally preferred English term for a democratic state. It's only very recently that "Commonwealth" has come to mean "the collection of crypto-republics that was once the British Empire".

@amp279

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Ostensibly Cromwell did endorse puritan ideals, supporters of Puritanism didn't believe in ostentatious symbolism, they were famous for stripping churches of anything that they perceived were symbolisms of idolatry, virtually anything fun was outlawed under Cromwell because they wanted to strip back religion to it's sober fundamentals as they saw it. I personally think Oliver Cromwell was a hypocrite though, he forbade listening to or playing music but had musicians play for him privately amongst other things, like the rich garb he later wore. If you want a different look at some of the laws he instituted, check out the show Horrible Histories did on Oliver Cromwell, it educates in an interesting but fun way.

@maryearll3359

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Thank you to everyone for your replies. I like learning new things. Peace and love to you all. ❤️

@maryearll3359

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@@amp279 Thank you so much.

@titchs9098

Жыл бұрын

This is what I thought, too. Honestly, I don’t know much about Cromwell, but from what I do know, personally, I think he was a hypocrite. Was against the idea of monarchy, but buried in Westminster Abby along with his family, given a monarchs funeral.

Our family are related to OLIVER. My sister went to see the execution warrant. She discovered that her husbands family were also from another signatory like Cromwell. Spooky what

@jasperpike242

Жыл бұрын

@Craig Brown serious oneupmanship. I concede

For all the good things he did for the common man. He still cancelled Christmas, dancing and generally having a good time.

@allanbarton

Жыл бұрын

He was a killjoy and a bore.

@iamcarbonandotherbits.8039

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@@allanbarton . I heard he was pretty handy in a punch up but would never have got on with the 'portrait artist of the year' producers.