What happened to CJ during his stay in Liberty City? | GTA San Andreas

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In this episode, we are discussing the events before GTA San Andreas, - namely CJ's journey to Liberty City. In 1987, Carl Johnson's world got turned upside down. Allegedly because of his irresponsibility, the man lost his younger brother and got kicked out of the gang, to which he devoted his whole life. All homies and the family turned their back on CJ because of his guilt. Being a lone ranger, CJ couldn't survive any longer in Los Santos, not when he was there all alone. Out of a sudden, the man decided to leave his hometown and fly to the East Coast - to start anew. He met new people, among others, Joey Leone. The two became friends, but also business partners. But one question remains - was CJ going so far away to Liberty City worth it? If you want to know the answer, this video is for you.
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  • @darkservantofheaven
    @darkservantofheaven Жыл бұрын

    If GTA San Andreas was made today, CJ's time in liberty City would be a DLC prequel

  • @d.a.b8756

    @d.a.b8756

    Жыл бұрын

    No rockstar only care about online 😂

  • @Carljohnson666

    @Carljohnson666

    Жыл бұрын

    If they made that today that will be the most sold game period.

  • @Ramen_Hibachi

    @Ramen_Hibachi

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe in 2009 but in 2023 it would be online DLC

  • @nexusgaming6743

    @nexusgaming6743

    Жыл бұрын

    GTA online 90's dlc

  • @playerunkown8699

    @playerunkown8699

    Жыл бұрын

    No rockstar games gave Shawn fonteno barely any money he is pissed at Rockstar

  • @Taco-man_
    @Taco-man_ Жыл бұрын

    Cesar Vialpando would have been a great gta protagonist if they made gta sa stories. It would keep up the tradition of seeing San Andreas through a new pair of eyes like in previous story gtas. It could help us learn more about los aztecas gang.

  • @burymeinjhenny918

    @burymeinjhenny918

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah that would of been so cool

  • @Razul632

    @Razul632

    Ай бұрын

    Yes Indeed

  • @GoGetYourShinebox

    @GoGetYourShinebox

    Күн бұрын

    Yeah that would be good, but I really wanted to know what happened with Brian and Cesar isn't connected to that

  • @onurtintas
    @onurtintas Жыл бұрын

    Maybe thats why Salvatore didnt trust Claude and tried to kill him. He has seen the same pattern. A stranger who is working for his son tried to get in the family by his sons advice. Claude did take a lot of risk by helping them escape in a limo but that still didnt make Salvatore trust him because CJ did the same and still betrayed him

  • @riverman6462

    @riverman6462

    9 ай бұрын

    That makes sense. But why did he trust Toni Cipriani though? Like, Toni also kind of appeared out of nowhere and began doing work for the Mafia.

  • @tredawg4847

    @tredawg4847

    9 ай бұрын

    Toni was in the family

  • @thepope8240

    @thepope8240

    8 ай бұрын

    Salvatore met CJ years after Toni.

  • @blazkovic17

    @blazkovic17

    8 ай бұрын

    GTA 3 plot was written before San Andreas. San Andreas and GTA 3 got connected only after San Andreas came out. Developers didn't even know about CJ when GTA 3 was made. So that means San Andreas was influenced by GTA 3 and not vice versa. They used San Andreas as a prequel to GTA 3 based on what we seen in GTA 3

  • @onurtintas

    @onurtintas

    8 ай бұрын

    @@blazkovic17 Yeah that right i know that its just a weak theory but was fun to think about

  • @TFFgeek
    @TFFgeek Жыл бұрын

    I think CJ had little money and couldn't find a solid job to pay his bills. Therefor, he had to resort to mugging to get money. Incidentally he did jobs for Joey, who wanted to help Carl. And, as you said, he didn't look like a gangster, so it was easy money for CJ. This way he could pay his bills and assure he could stay in the LC. CJ and Joey eventually became friendly and talked about life and family, which is how CJ knows about Salvatore. Also, I think Joey cared about CJ. He gave him friendship so that CJ wouldn't be alone in the big city. As far as CJ knew Joey was just a friend who got him money in times of need.

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Beautifully said! We really feel that CJ was struggling there in Liberty City at times - mugging people looked so desperate. And even though Joey wasn't paying CJ that much money that would make Carl happy, at least he was giving him a friendship.

  • @trevorwalsh9443

    @trevorwalsh9443

    Жыл бұрын

    He could of found a Job that was just how R created CJ.

  • @riverman6462

    @riverman6462

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@gaminginvestigatorsMy theory is that, the mugging part was before he began working for Joey. But it also could be that Joey Leone just hadn't started fully launching his business into the front, and was struggling with finances that he couldn't just pay his henchmen (CJ and the likes) that much money

  • @aahaanchawla5393
    @aahaanchawla5393 Жыл бұрын

    I think that after Brian's death CJ must have been super upset and wanted to get out of the street gangs business and he moved to Liberty City. In Liberty City he did not want to go too deep into the mafia as he was afraid people close to him would get hurt(eg. Joey) He just helps Joey around and decides not to associate with other members of the mafia. The mafia were probably the most organized crime family at the time, so being associated with Joey, who led a small front would have kept him out of trouble. This might be a stretch, but the fact that CJ drives through Chinatown could also indicate that he never had anything to do with gang warfare as the Triads did not attack him, like how they were hostile to Claude after certain missions. However once CJ returns to LS, he realizes things are really screwed up and also feels bad for letting his family down. He begins associating in gang activity slowly, and the rest is history.

  • @slavicfixer8438

    @slavicfixer8438

    Жыл бұрын

    I think CJ wasn't upset, but his life in Liberty City was serving some kind of coping mechanism with Brian's death. He tried to forget about all this gang activity in LS, by fleeing to the other parts of country and associating himself with other group of people.

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Well yeah, CJ has probably been really upset about letting Brian die and the fact that he was kicked out of the gang - basically everyone turned their back on him. However, we think that moving to Liberty City wasn't just about starting life anew, but it was a necessity in a way - CJ didn't have anyone in LS anymore, and living there all by himself would be too dangerous. Speaking of him not being too deep within the mafia, we are not entirely sure it was because he was afraid something bad could happen to people he was working with such as Joey Leone. Actually, we would rather say it was like that, among others, because CJ wasn't a great type of guy to be easily manipulated. CJ couldn't decide not to make more money as we witnessed in The Introduction. He was stealing cars and mugging people in the alleys - it's not something a criminal with at least average wealth would do, he was poor. When it comes to the Triads and their attitude toward CJ, it's really hard to determine whether they were pissed off at him as we have shown that theoretically, CJ shouldn't be driving there, after the camera changed.

  • @thebellbrothers3279

    @thebellbrothers3279

    10 ай бұрын

    What do you mean get into the mafia? Only italians can become a member. The rest can only be acquaintances.

  • @patriotforlife6592

    @patriotforlife6592

    10 ай бұрын

    I agree with all but one thing. After CJ let Brian die he was ran out of town. At least that's what Tenpenny said at one point. I am curious as to what killed Brian.

  • @TheBlueboy7777

    @TheBlueboy7777

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@gaminginvestigatorshe wasn't kick out in the gang....cj ran away.

  • @DarkMirror187
    @DarkMirror187 Жыл бұрын

    Regarding the payments he received, in a mission ending 'cutscene' with Sweet, CJ mentions that C.R.A.S.H took all his cash and he did lose the suitcase he came with in the cab, so that could rule out that he wasn't paid well in the end or that he was a joke.

  • @stefan5430

    @stefan5430

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah probably clothes were in suitcase and some other small things because when you arrive in los santos cj has no clothes and stack of money that tennpeny stole from cj dosnt look like it has more than a few thousand dollars so as you can see in introduction cj had to mug from people from time to time

  • @DarkMirror187

    @DarkMirror187

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stefan5430 I mean, a stack of 100's isnt all that bad in comparison to how we see it. Chances are, he had good work but was more of a scrapegoat than anything.

  • @dexenationgracey1979

    @dexenationgracey1979

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@Stefan you gotta think about it in terms of 1992 when minimum wage was $4 an hour in the U.S. A few hundred back then was worth more than a few hundred now.

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Hmm yeah, you have a valid point! But now, considering that he underlined they took all his money, one of the conclusions could be that he was getting paid more near the end of his journey in Liberty City cause obviously, a long time before going back to LS we can see that he was only stealing cars and mugging people in the alleys. At least from our point of view, CJ seemed to be a small-time criminal, but in the end, could have gathered a good amount of money in return.

  • @DarkMirror187

    @DarkMirror187

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gaminginvestigators Yeah, I mean that could be the case. Unless we get a prequel to GTA SA specifically, we wouldnt know.

  • @hayamotoelamin9265
    @hayamotoelamin9265 Жыл бұрын

    CJ doing more missions in Liberty city for salvatore or joey after Saint mark's bistro could have been exciting.

  • @Denis_Dra
    @Denis_Dra Жыл бұрын

    One missing detail is how Ryder & Big Smoke comment CJs Physic in the missions Sweet & Kendl and Ryder it indicates that CJ used to be build bigger & he got thinner because he was didn’t well in Liberty City, and probably didn’t have a lot money

  • @W1ldstyl3

    @W1ldstyl3

    5 ай бұрын

    Always thought i he was doing drugs in LC so got skinnyer then he quit when came back to LS

  • @TK--cs4xo

    @TK--cs4xo

    5 ай бұрын

    @@W1ldstyl3I doubt CJ ever does drugs considering his strong affinity against it in the game.

  • @XYZ-eo8um
    @XYZ-eo8um Жыл бұрын

    While this video doesn't focus on this, I have another theory about why CJ had to leave Los Santos: When Brian's death occured, it's implied that CJ was caught by Tenpenny's CRASH unit, and during that time Tenpenny would start to blackmail Carl. But then once Carl was released, other Grove Street Families members could think that CJ was a snitch, since he didn't end up in prison (or at least didn't serve any long sentence). Probably even Sweet would think like that, but he would be rather more upset about the fact that CJ was involved in Brian's death. Anyway, Tenpenny once said to Carl that he was almost chased away from the city by his own homies, so there could be some truth in this statement. And gangsters would do such thing to someone who decided to cooperate with cops (if not outright "cap" them for treason).

  • @dexenationgracey1979

    @dexenationgracey1979

    Жыл бұрын

    I always had the theory that Smoke set CJ and Brian up. I think they were both supposed to die that night and that Sweet was supposed to have died not soon after.

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a really interesting theory right there! However, we do have a question. So first, you mentioned that a certain line of dialogue allegedly implies that CJ was caught by Tenpenny when Brian died - which line of dialogue? As for the rest of the theory, it seems quite plausible at first glance, although we are surprised by your interpretation of Tenpenny's words that GSF "ran CJ out of town" as in they were even going to harm him, not only kick him out of the gang. We feel like this might go too far in this case. Still, we would be grateful if you could answer the question above. Great theory, overall!

  • @XYZ-eo8um

    @XYZ-eo8um

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gaminginvestigators I rather meant what Tenpenny said in Las Venturas before one mission, related to Carl leaving LS. But I can speculate that something like that (CJ being arrested by CRASH somewhere in the past, if not during Brian's death, then way earlier) because CJ doesn't seem like a random person chosen by Tenpenny to be framed for murder. Granted, the other Grove Street members also could be under CRASH surveillance, but since Frank seems to know CJ well, I can assume that there's a reason for it.

  • @trevorwalsh9443

    @trevorwalsh9443

    Жыл бұрын

    Doesn’t make sense because he kills Tenpenny.

  • @XYZ-eo8um

    @XYZ-eo8um

    Жыл бұрын

    @@trevorwalsh9443 I didn't mention that CJ agreed for anything. His arrest would look like something from the intro, and the other gang members would make up the rest of these story.

  • @CristianIvarra
    @CristianIvarra Жыл бұрын

    I want more Joey Leone. For some reason he’s been a favorite of mine since GTA 3.

  • @PlansvsPots
    @PlansvsPots11 ай бұрын

    I had my PTSD and WW2 flashbacks in the liberty city arc

  • @stretchh2o
    @stretchh2o5 ай бұрын

    The car chase in Liberty City was scrapped due to limitations in technology back in the 2000s. The ps2 just couldnt handle that much space.

  • @gtagameplayvidz1909
    @gtagameplayvidz19099 ай бұрын

    I'd like to see a future GTA game (Not GTA 6) be about C.J.s five years spent in Liberty City, prior to returning home to Los Santos. That'd be sick.

  • @doowopsoprano9867
    @doowopsoprano9867 Жыл бұрын

    Ain't it possible that maybe CJ waited till he drove thru Chinatown to make the call to Joey & the developers just felt it was taking too long so they cut it out?

  • @jetrosison375
    @jetrosison375 Жыл бұрын

    I would love to see that concept of chasing Marco around liberty city although its should be noted too that PS2 limitations can't probably handle that much way way back so yeah

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, the main reason behind getting rid of this idea was probably PS2 limitations... Still, they could recreate the whole of Portland in the universe of interiors just like they did with other tons of buildings.

  • @AndySp3080
    @AndySp3080 Жыл бұрын

    Fun Fact: Vic Vance is the only 3D universe character who didn't any mobster things in Liberty City

  • @Lupo32

    @Lupo32

    Жыл бұрын

    He was the only protagonist who Never went to liberty city. maybe if he didn't participate in That drug deal and went to liberty city he may have lived longer imo.

  • @hofnarrtheclown

    @hofnarrtheclown

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Lupo32 Only Protagonist Who Never Was In Liberty City In The 3D Universe Or In All The Universes

  • @AndySp3080

    @AndySp3080

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Lupo32 In fact, GTA Vice City, he was unnamed. Rockstar might have to introduce him as another brother of Vance family. It's kinda hate to see that a protagonist in a game died in an another game. Same thing goes to Jonny Klebitz.

  • @Lupo32

    @Lupo32

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AndySp3080 I think they did name him on The vice city website back in the day .

  • @Lupo32

    @Lupo32

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AndySp3080 Pete vance was the unseen brother who Had asthma so bad vic had to financially Support him .

  • @dunnyjayrecords139
    @dunnyjayrecords139 Жыл бұрын

    I feel like if GTA fans focused more on characters before the games actual moment of in game time frame than we'd have a lot more information on how the whole story comes together throughout time before and after these events happen in different cities and characters. Example: what did Tommy vercetti do between time in Liberty City before he moved out to Vice City? How did Claude meet Catalina before leaving San fierro for him to gain her trust and what was he doing before he met her? These information questions help get a better story

  • @IMTHERAZORSEDGE

    @IMTHERAZORSEDGE

    Жыл бұрын

    15 years in prison

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh yes, definitely! Questions about the past of the characters like this are great opportunities to speculate and try to find the right puzzle to these mysteries.

  • @dunnyjayrecords139

    @dunnyjayrecords139

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gaminginvestigators thank you for the heart just now and hopefully y'all can make a video about what these antagonist's from different games are planning and break down how they get themselves into terrible situations such as 8 ball being in Vice City when the game first comes on hanging in a room with handcuffs by Sunny forelli at the table making a deal It doesn't add up if Vice City is before Liberty City stories and in Liberty City they had the 8 ball shop still there🤔 Please provide us answers

  • @dunnyjayrecords139

    @dunnyjayrecords139

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gaminginvestigators what happened to Vice City as a whole map If it was updated to this time from what it was in the 70's?, we never revisited the map afterwards and if Ray Liotta gave rockstar his rights to do another game, can Tommy Vercetti still be old and running things in the storyline? but they'll have his character pass away due to natural causes in the game so we can get one last look at how he'd look being old and without Ken Rosenberg as his lawyer The only reason is because he can't do anymore GTA games if he passed away so his character would have to go They can take his old audio, have a machine edit it to make sentences out of it, and give him 20 missions out of 100 to beat the game and have the character leave the series That would be sweet if they did that. Please make a video of this idea and give me a shout out

  • @gerardsloan1593
    @gerardsloan1593 Жыл бұрын

    I always like a the "what ifs" in any story. I also like when different parts of a story link/connect the main story (even across multiple episodes i.e. GTA SA and GTA3 etc). Have a good day reader :)

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    We like these kinds of questions as well. Have a nice day to you too!

  • @gerardsloan1593

    @gerardsloan1593

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gaminginvestigators thank you. I enjoy the GTA series like so many other people and really enjoy this channel. Keep up the good work and thank you for responding to my comment. Do more VC, SA and GTA 5 among my favourites. Cheers.

  • @michaelprox1172
    @michaelprox1172 Жыл бұрын

    GTA San Andreas Stories will be nice

  • @Lupo32

    @Lupo32

    Жыл бұрын

    Support for the ps2 was ending and rockstar was focused on gta 4 .

  • @michaelprox1172

    @michaelprox1172

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Lupo32 no they was focusing on gta lcs and vcs

  • @Lupo32

    @Lupo32

    Жыл бұрын

    @@michaelprox1172 Sony asked them to make games for The psp while Nintendo ask them to make china town was for the ds .... It's a proven fact that gta 4 holds Remnants of a scrapped gta vcs mission That involves vic and lance selling dry wall as coke only in return to get counterfeit money .

  • @Czermet666
    @Czermet66611 ай бұрын

    Can't forget CJ's skrawniness when he got back to LS. Whatever he was doing in LC, he wasn't a strongman. He probably worked at Cluckin Bell.

  • @stevemichael9318
    @stevemichael931811 ай бұрын

    It’s too bad gta LCS wasn’t in this time period while CJ was in LC between 1987 and 1991. You play as CJ again but in LC working for the mafia

  • @xiongzaixia
    @xiongzaixia Жыл бұрын

    It is fresh that Hubson uses the mod footages mixing with the introduction short and the relevant footages in this documentary. Nice.

  • @baxter22071990

    @baxter22071990

    6 ай бұрын

    What is the mod used in this cause cj in liberty city looks a good mod tbf 😮

  • @xiongzaixia

    @xiongzaixia

    5 ай бұрын

    maybe lc-sa mod? I am also curious about it.@@baxter22071990

  • @KingYahshua
    @KingYahshua Жыл бұрын

    Brian would’ve been a great character for San Andreas Stories if one got made.

  • @Lupo32

    @Lupo32

    Жыл бұрын

    I was thinking big bear before he got on crack , you could see how Sweet robbed people to pay for his mothers operation, got shoes for kendal , how much of a buster carl was .... big bear probably ran with Big devil , lil devil and tony / brian instead of Ryder , big smoke and sweet / cj.

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely! The story of 10-year-old Brian Johnson would serve as a good addition to the plot of GTA San Andreas Stories.

  • @mattmedrala1947

    @mattmedrala1947

    10 ай бұрын

    No, I think T Bone Mendez would be the best choice. Most characters in San Andreas are largely limited to single cities except for the Loco Syndicate, and T Bone's role as enforcer would be an appropriate fit for a GTA protagonist.

  • @Taco-man_

    @Taco-man_

    7 ай бұрын

    No yall are forgetting Cesar Vialpando. He was a true homie to the end.

  • @pranavhaval
    @pranavhaval11 ай бұрын

    Does Joey ever get to know that CJ has betrayed his father in Las Ventures in Caligula's Casino??? If yes, then what was his reaction to it?? Does anyone have any information on this?

  • @RaulitoTheAssassin

    @RaulitoTheAssassin

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah i think he know because in liberty city stories sal said to toni to work work Vincenzo and vincezo paid cheap and he say" even my son dont got it good" damn if working for vincezo that he only paid couple of 100 to kill and risk his life well joey was grounded for vouching for cj thats just my teory and in gta 3 he was in his garage working like a mecanic being the son of th #1 Don of the mafia while other member had nigh clubs like luigui,or capo like toni maybe because of cj joey aint got a better position of the mob because of CJ

  • @AndrewG1989
    @AndrewG1989 Жыл бұрын

    Imagine having CJ in Liberty City and Claude in San Andreas then there could be a link between the 2 characters. And both characters might of worked together or separately. Plus Claude doesn’t speak in GTA III whilst CJ does talk in GTA San Andreas.

  • @TheF34TH3R5

    @TheF34TH3R5

    Жыл бұрын

    There is a connection. In the "Farewell, My Love," you race against Claude for Catalina, however she still goes with him to Liberty City. Which means Claude put up with her shit for NINE YEARS before she betrayed him at the start of GTA III.

  • @russelsantilla7381
    @russelsantilla7381 Жыл бұрын

    I think after what happened to Caligula's heist,Salvatore Leon wants to kill CJ because for what happened in heist and he is a former employee of joey Leone so after Leone called cj after the mission,says he will gonna killed by Leone so CJ is now a red mark for Leone

  • @reptilemark7346
    @reptilemark7346 Жыл бұрын

    I remember back in 04 or 05 I woke up to my uncle playing San Andreas at the part where Claud was taking CJs girl. We used to play GTA 3 like crazy so that was funny as hell 😂 and threw me off guard 😂😂😂

  • @TheMDXtremeReal
    @TheMDXtremeReal Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely love your GTA Documentaries ❤️

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! More great episodes coming soon.

  • @TheMDXtremeReal

    @TheMDXtremeReal

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gaminginvestigators You're most welcome. Keep up the wonderful content 😊

  • @MorganWJackson
    @MorganWJackson3 ай бұрын

    Very well put together.

  • @josean6287
    @josean628710 ай бұрын

    I recently played GTA 3 on PS2 and reached the mission where you need to kill Salvatore Leone at Luigi's place. I tried a trick from a speedrun, blocking the exit from the back alley with a truck, and waited for Salvatore and his guards to come out. Oddly, Joey Leone also emerged with them, so I shot him. Has this ever happened to any of you? Sadly, I didn't record it, and when I tried a few more times, it didn't happen again.

  • @ItzProdigy12Gaming
    @ItzProdigy12Gaming Жыл бұрын

    Man your channel is awesome

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot, buddy!

  • @DaneNOTDan
    @DaneNOTDan Жыл бұрын

    We’re are these LC Sences from the ones we’re he is walking in og LC? But I’m glad we know the story before the story

  • @crissviorel1413
    @crissviorel1413 Жыл бұрын

    It was nice if Rokstar make the Gta San Andreas stories, with what happens in those 5 years in liberty city with CJ after Brain died.

  • @TheNostalgiaFiend
    @TheNostalgiaFiend5 ай бұрын

    He left weak letting Brian die...came back when no one was hardly left and made it...developed. Strong

  • @afree1175
    @afree11759 ай бұрын

    6:00 CJ on the right is my default look every run.

  • @IamOtisReed
    @IamOtisReed4 ай бұрын

    I mean it would make sense that CJ wasn’t taken serious by the mafia because he was black…

  • @QuenTeHein
    @QuenTeHein Жыл бұрын

    dude you rocks! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks a million, bro!

  • @DS_IndustrieZ
    @DS_IndustrieZ6 ай бұрын

    R.i.p gta3MP, vcMP, and saMP mod/patch.... the only multiplayer gta experience before gta online was a glimmer

  • @Dante95nyc
    @Dante95nyc8 ай бұрын

    I don't think CJ even killed anybody in LC. Especially when everybody in LS is calling him a "buster" which lead me to believe that he always lacked heart to legitimately hurt or kill someone until he came back.

  • @RaulitoTheAssassin

    @RaulitoTheAssassin

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah i think the same that because he let brian died he did not had the heart to kill at first but wend his mother was kill that was what awaked the monster inside of him to kill

  • @jason200912
    @jason20091211 ай бұрын

    joey would be pissed with CJ for robbing from his family

  • @TheColtonStreeter
    @TheColtonStreeter5 ай бұрын

    Wild seeing CJ walking around Liberty city in the video

  • @johnnyboy-ws3we
    @johnnyboy-ws3we2 ай бұрын

    I really wish they could have made a gta san andreas stories and have game take place before the events of san andreas and as a sequel to gta vice city

  • @hofnarrtheclown
    @hofnarrtheclown Жыл бұрын

    Joey Probably Didn't Even Care About Cj Betraying Salvatore Since He Didn't Like Him That Much But His Death In 2001 I Am Sure Joey Did Go To His Funeral And That Toni Took Over The Leone Crime Family

  • @alithepro105

    @alithepro105

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice to see u here bro

  • @hofnarrtheclown

    @hofnarrtheclown

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alithepro105 Nice To See You Too Homie

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Woah, that's a quite serious statement! But seems like a very accurate one, Joey could have heard about CJ betraying his father, but he likely didn't care that much - he had his own business to care about. As for the question of who took the Leones after Sal's death, we are going to make a video about this topic, so stay tuned.

  • @Gazpacho834

    @Gazpacho834

    11 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@gaminginvestigatorsI know I’m one month late but I feel like Joey would be moderately angry since Sal did tell Toni that he was better than his own son but Sal didn’t hold too much of a grudge since he’s still proud that Joey is his boy.

  • @libertycitysfinest219
    @libertycitysfinest219 Жыл бұрын

    What Liberty City map mod did you use?

  • @alkasushi
    @alkasushi Жыл бұрын

    It would have been really cool to see CJ reconnects with Joey when he came back to Liberty City to kill Marco!

  • @emperortrevornorton3119
    @emperortrevornorton311911 ай бұрын

    This is were I think GTA mixed Midwest Italian mafia and East Coast Italian mafia because it was more common in places like Chicago or Minneapolis than New York or New Jersey to see a black associate to the mafia but all the mafia cares about can you make money for us you don't have to be a harden killer or some badass you could just be some average nobody but you got a talent for making money they love you until you don't deliver money

  • @B-Corteztv
    @B-Corteztv Жыл бұрын

    Im lost , did you guys make this up because i dont remember this particular GTA game

  • @user-wm1bp8xn9g

    @user-wm1bp8xn9g

    Жыл бұрын

    Most likely be Headcanon

  • @cobraninja2968
    @cobraninja296810 ай бұрын

    Did you talk about when ken Rosenberg and Kent Paul get ghosted by tommy vercetti?

  • @raylinpanes3476
    @raylinpanes347611 ай бұрын

    Now a cesar vialpando story might be good

  • @bryantbrown107
    @bryantbrown107 Жыл бұрын

    😅Does Joey know that “Claude speed” killed Salvatore with a sniper rifle?😅

  • @lautheimpaler4686
    @lautheimpaler4686 Жыл бұрын

    VIdeo Idea: why didn't CJ eliminate Tenpenny with the help of Woozie ?

  • @miguelpasamano4995
    @miguelpasamano4995 Жыл бұрын

    I already debunked the "error" in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas: InTroDuction when I pretended Claude was CJ stealing cars for Joey at night and looked carefully at the buildings on the drivers side.

  • @Mountain6969uk
    @Mountain6969uk10 ай бұрын

    What mod/ game is the CJ in Liberty footage from?

  • @tommymiller1815
    @tommymiller1815 Жыл бұрын

    GTA 6 should be cj in liberty

  • @PrestonLions3
    @PrestonLions3 Жыл бұрын

    that guy at 2:52 he totally looks like UFC fighter Alistair Overeem

  • @ChannelIsMissing
    @ChannelIsMissing Жыл бұрын

    im from germany, so my english ist very bad. where do you know this, and in wich game can you see this cutscene?

  • @icecube4521
    @icecube45216 ай бұрын

    The number 1 rule in the Mafia is that to be associated with the Italian Mafia/ Costra is you have to be of Italian Descent from your father's side to be a 'made man'/'wise guy'. This means that he can be a soldier at max but will never be accepted into the family and cannot climb the ranks(aka lieutenant>capo-regime>Underboss>Don. Ik this cause I'm a Mafia nerd haha I also love the Mafia games

  • @stevengrvp
    @stevengrvp Жыл бұрын

    For the grove

  • @BlackSago_
    @BlackSago_ Жыл бұрын

    0:30 Failed terrorist attack on Francis INTL airport Circa 1987 (The background)

  • @argentin2306
    @argentin23063 ай бұрын

    I actually think CJ had little money when he got to San Andreas not because he didn't earn much, but because at the beggining of GTA San Andreas, Tenepenny takes money away from CJ and the cab driver simply runs off with CJ's bag, which could have also had some additional money

  • @miguelmagallon7863
    @miguelmagallon78635 ай бұрын

    Where are these scenes from

  • @NIGEL-MORGZZ1100
    @NIGEL-MORGZZ1100 Жыл бұрын

    Watch gta 6 have the mains go into hiding and transfers over 1987 to clear up what happed and some how link these story’s I wish

  • @shivangsrivastava302
    @shivangsrivastava302 Жыл бұрын

    And he is gone.... AND he is back (2nd narrator)

  • @EvilRIQ95.
    @EvilRIQ95.5 ай бұрын

    Man I need to be part of Rockstar GTA story development department my idea is Grove Street nd the storyline is how orange came to be and what happened between the Johnson Brothers. Y'all need to put me on 😊

  • @Solomonwo
    @Solomonwo Жыл бұрын

    Liberty City is good

  • @langezzyt

    @langezzyt

    Жыл бұрын

    But Catalina change them into house of spank make liberty City turn down into madhouse

  • @celticbalkan2219
    @celticbalkan2219 Жыл бұрын

    I wish there is a game about this topic

  • @reptilemark7346

    @reptilemark7346

    Жыл бұрын

    Hell yeah, it could be GTA San Andreas stories

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, GTA San Andreas Stories is a definitely missed opportunity.

  • @JohnPaulBuce
    @JohnPaulBuce Жыл бұрын

    thanks

  • @aldico4067
    @aldico4067 Жыл бұрын

    CJ could have been the best criminal ever but he would never go up in rank in the Mafia as Italian mafia is very strict about who became a made man. Yes mafia did have people of different skin color working for them, but as associates not actual members if they weren't Italian. Promoting a non Italian associate could be really bad news as other families would look down at your family and some even started wars over it. Look at Pegorino from GTA 4 and how much they shat on him cuz he promoted Phil to a capo and he is Irish not Italian. Imo I think CJ wasn't that good since at the start of GTA SA he is terrible at shooting and even driving. And is forced to improve by the circumstances he finds himself in the story.

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah, the man certainly had great potential to be someone big in Liberty City. However, just like you said, he wasn't going to make a great career in the Leones. Not only was he less vulnerable to manipulation and making choices, but he was also black, which in the end did have a little effect on all this.

  • @smoke0ne209
    @smoke0ne20910 ай бұрын

    Would be Kool if they made GTA a bully style In the beginning like a 17 teen your old kid and see him start to become Kurupt lil by lil and then turns 18 and then starts taking people out I think that would be Kool see more back story of a character

  • @aastik99
    @aastik99 Жыл бұрын

    Carl Johnson didn't want to leave but was evicted from Families gang

  • @quarkfnts
    @quarkfnts10 ай бұрын

    What game was that first cut scene from where cj was trying to steal cars?

  • @loreaver3882

    @loreaver3882

    9 ай бұрын

    It’s from a 15 minute prologue on the ps2 disk of San Andreas

  • @sam567wis3
    @sam567wis310 ай бұрын

    If we had gta san andreas stories or los santos stories

  • @aghostfromyourtown
    @aghostfromyourtown Жыл бұрын

    Damn

  • @markl5998
    @markl5998 Жыл бұрын

    Asking the REAL QUESTIONS. San Andreas 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear that you enjoyed the video, mate!

  • @666dandark
    @666dandark Жыл бұрын

    Hilarious how he was a crook in liberty and yet boast about how “legit & clean” his life was in LC to Tempenny

  • @6kunk
    @6kunk Жыл бұрын

    I don't understand the city scene in the beginning what game is that. Where Cj is stealing cats in LC

  • @denis-florian_0.57
    @denis-florian_0.57 Жыл бұрын

    What mods are you using?

  • @Bowl_of_Ramen

    @Bowl_of_Ramen

    Жыл бұрын

    Definitive Edition Project (D.E.P.) Available for GTA III, Vice City & San Andreas

  • @MrDelow11
    @MrDelow115 ай бұрын

    Where the hell u get this info from????

  • @FerociousMit
    @FerociousMit6 ай бұрын

    Is there a mod to fully play as cj in one of the liberty city games? I want it.

  • @MateusPereira95
    @MateusPereira95 Жыл бұрын

    GTA Underground mod on background

  • @InGodshands7
    @InGodshands74 ай бұрын

    Maybe he was a regular civilian in LC and rent was high.

  • @wishmithahettirarachchi2419
    @wishmithahettirarachchi2419 Жыл бұрын

    What happend to niko after gta iv?

  • @amaxx24kk

    @amaxx24kk

    Жыл бұрын

    He went bowling with Roman

  • @fluffyflufffox1385

    @fluffyflufffox1385

    Жыл бұрын

    Taxi business empire with Roman, Mallory, and Roman’s daughter

  • @wishmithahettirarachchi2419

    @wishmithahettirarachchi2419

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fluffyflufffox1385 what about the wanted poster in gta v of niko?

  • @fluffyflufffox1385

    @fluffyflufffox1385

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wishmithahettirarachchi2419 I think might’ve been like one of those papers you get when u buy a new copy of the game. Like in gta v 360 version you get the LS map

  • @Lupo32

    @Lupo32

    Жыл бұрын

    He gave up his life of crime just Like his voice actor gave up voicing him.

  • @alf8338
    @alf8338 Жыл бұрын

    Love your gta videos ❤

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    It's our pleasure, man! Stay tuned for more videos that are coming soon.

  • @bornfromforeign
    @bornfromforeign5 ай бұрын

    Tommy was in vice city in 1986

  • @MONSTER.SKULL15
    @MONSTER.SKULL15 Жыл бұрын

    Here's my boy do find right wemon yet Joe: I'm working on it 😂🤣🤣 10:23

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup, he certainly does lol

  • @kierrickedmond
    @kierrickedmond5 ай бұрын

    The next gta after gta 6 should be a prequel to San Andreas, based on cj life in liberty city..

  • @selenadeleon1088
    @selenadeleon10884 ай бұрын

    This might be a silly question, but how can I play this game?

  • @EmazinqKillz
    @EmazinqKillz Жыл бұрын

    They shouldve been made episodes from liberty city with CJ

  • @pierre-alexandreclement7831
    @pierre-alexandreclement7831 Жыл бұрын

    ❤❤

  • @StevieStinkbutt
    @StevieStinkbutt Жыл бұрын

    I wish you would do an investigation on clues Tenpenny worked for Toreno. I always felt like it was possible.

  • @slimdarcy9503

    @slimdarcy9503

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think so and this is how Torino came across to me. He really seemed to be a patriot at heart and very likely hated those profiting from and using drugs because it was and still is ruining America's image which probably upsetted him enough to go undercover in the syndicate and definitely appreciated CJ doing him and America a favour by putting a stop to it. It is also why he uses CJ to complete objectives because he knew CJ would get it done but of course wasn't their morality that allied them Torino had the Sweet get out of prioson card at play. I think the 2 man both hated what drugs were doing and Torino especially would have likely hated anyone with badge abusing that power for their own greed. Can't rule out though Torino could have been corrupt as well and didn't mind profiting while maybe playing the long game of being undercover but I doubt this because he just really didn't seem the type to me. He seemed to care about the future of his country greatly.

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a really unusual topic... And to be honest, we can't think of any hints supporting this theory, but perhaps you've got some you could share?

  • @xentricz_twitch
    @xentricz_twitch Жыл бұрын

    Is the gameplay from a modded version of san andreas?

  • @Nigel-xp4rf
    @Nigel-xp4rf4 ай бұрын

    How come CJ doesn't pick up any money from the people who he shot? If he's working for Joey, would Joey take any money or items that CJ could pick up or was he just in a hurry to get out of the area?

  • @Kwesimera
    @Kwesimera Жыл бұрын

    I was safe bro don’t worry

  • @sk4te.kokkola627
    @sk4te.kokkola62710 ай бұрын

    in my option i think gta sa missions is just better when he in san andreas

  • @RaulitoTheAssassin
    @RaulitoTheAssassin5 ай бұрын

    Yeah salvatore did not give joey a better position but toni cipriani if you play the gta lcs game you know how much toni earn that position and from joey vouching for CJ to Sal and then get robbed is why joey aint Capo in the Mob 😂

  • @wilycasady6639
    @wilycasady6639 Жыл бұрын

    what about leone galante in mafia II he belongs to gta or what?🤔

  • @yofreak410leek5
    @yofreak410leek5 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder what happened to San Andreas story back before gta ,5

  • @mxyzptlk1616
    @mxyzptlk16162 ай бұрын

    Cj was more like Lance Vance in Liberty city

  • @ChannelNotFound
    @ChannelNotFound10 ай бұрын

    I dont think CJ killed anyone in LC.

  • @MobPsycho_HardEdits
    @MobPsycho_HardEdits Жыл бұрын

    what happens if cjs mom didnt die and also his brother? things will happen is cj would get a perfect life for his self the fact that if cj didnt go on liberty city for 5 years and his brother didnt die he would just stay at the house protecting his mother or more like he would die his self by getting shot infront of their door resulting the game to end earlier or make a video of cj in hospital waking up and escaping if that happens the game would continue but with different missions and things the fact that theres other way to make a scene of cjs mom gonna die no other enemies but big smoke he would just kill cjs mom because he betrayed them all. the fact that if cj accidentally kill big smoke by jumpscare the game would also end earlier but the game can continue by tenphenny, tenphenny would also kill cjs mom resulting to make cj kill tenphenny but the missions were like only 6 because its just easy to kill tenphenny without ballas and big smoke.

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