I guess it is a hell lot of work creating these videos. You once more have my deep respect, sir.

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Tom I appreciate that :)

@koalafan1576

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I am sure it takes a lot.

I have never played a farm game untill two days ago. I swore I wouldn't get hooked cause farming dosent appeal to me in real life. But holy shit this game is a different kind of challenge isn't it. And yea now I'm hooked.

@Realgangshi

3 жыл бұрын

I started 7 days ago and I’ve never like farming irl but the game is a challenge and just really fun

@Skullysfishing

2 жыл бұрын

yes it is. Ive been playing for several years now and it never gets old. and then add in a good content creator like Farmer cop and it just gets better lol

@blubbex1908

Жыл бұрын

So your looking for a Server?:)

YES! I am glad I checked before testing it myself. Thank you for saving me a half a day worth of work, I am guessing that is how long just the testing took anyway. I did notice that I was making less from cutting trees into two pieces, vs 4 that I did previously (due to trailer limitations). Thinking that it saves me time, making me more efficient, I bought a longer trailer and cut trees into half, PLUS it said: "The longer the pieces, the better the price" I found that I made a few grand less per load of 6 trees and got curious, knowing the price hasn't changed. Watching your video makes perfect sense to me now. I happen to sell the trees at the right ratio (4pcs) and then made it worse, by being lazy, less cutting and less handling, resulting in less $$$. I am looking forward to when I can afford the harvester and retire the chainsaw :)

I did a (less than science) test of this way back when - my results were 6-10m were optimum (didn't go over 10m), but did notice a drop off in value for lengths shorter than 6m. I find that optimum length is generally how long you can fit on your truck/trailer. So say you use the ITRunner logging frame, you're going to optimize for 6-7m, just so you have a safe load, and optionally could add a trailer and not foul it (FS17 I used the AR frame system, which has similar properties). If your roads allow for convenient use of a semi trailer, then you might want to fit 2 stacks (front/back) to get the best return.

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Neil that is a good point, you have to do logs you can move and it may not always be the most "profitable" way to go but may end up netting you more as you have the right equipment and such

Lot of work invested into this video. Very useful info! Thanks a lot man!

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome! :)

I’m not sure what happened but for some reason my subscription to your channel has went MIA. So anyhow I resubscribed this morning, Looking forward to checking out all the videos of yours that I’ve missed over the past eight or nine months. Thanks Farmer Cop. Keep up the great work buddy.

loved the reference to FDR. Jordan is working on making his trees and equipment lighter to work better with stock Giants trees. he's releasing the first overhaul mods next friday.

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Thats awesome. FDR stuff has become some of my favorote

@gamingmadesimple5510

3 жыл бұрын

Looking back now after the lightweight update, they killed their mods. The heavier versions were significantly better. I now keep the heavy mods saved on my cloud storage because myself and almost everyone I play with hate the lightweight updated mods.

You deserve way more subs for the work you do!

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Alex, I appreciate that :)

Nice work. I’ve been planning to do a test like this because I planted a whole field of trees that are ready to go and wanted to maximize my payout. I started writing a plan that was exactly what you did, was going to figure out how to record and post, but now I don’t need too!

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Haha that is awesome, hopefully this answers your questions :)

Yes! Thanks so much for making this video. I just started on the map Dark Forest! Superb timing, sir

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

That is a cool map amd I am glad this helped you out :)

@DvdW1987

3 жыл бұрын

@@FarmerCop i really like it. I only have one problem. When I create a new field with lots of clear spaces on the sides, somehow my hired helps go all rough. Only planting or plowing certain parts but skipping others, mostly leaving large parts on the sides untouched . really strange. Anyone else having this issue?

Hi farmer cop..... first of all great test AND you have the most educational farming sim videos on KZread! Thank you!!! Just wondering about the planted trees you used in test vs regular forestery trees in game (I know you mentioned some of them) would you think some of them are taller and thicker than the ones you tested??

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Yes some you find on maps are either smaller or bigger so definitely a good point :)

Nice work, was going to test this myself but you spared me the work. I always use 8 meters in combination with a 16 meter trailer.

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

10 meter lengths. got it..!! Thanks for sharing!

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome :)

Love these test vids, keep em coming brother! 👍✌

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Will do :)

Great information to have... I love the spreadsheet charts, these are great test vids you putting out so Thankyou for spending the time to answer our needs... #StaySafe #WeBackBlue

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you :) Very happy to hear you enjoy Jason :)

Man, I have a blast using that machine to cut trees. Love it!

@timcdo

3 жыл бұрын

Greg, I use to run that machine in real life. (Well similar, it was called the Ponsse Ergo. A lot of fun,

I always do either 6m or 8m and grind the last piece, dollar per meter is the best on those 2 options everytime I have tested

Thanks for the Vid my dude.

Wow that’s a lot of good info and work. So with what u gave us we should log at 6 meters for most money per meter? So If u break your sell down in to overall equal lengths. So do 6 meters with 8 pieces of a total of 48 meters. Then do 8 meters and 6 pieces for a total of 48 meters the pay out is different by a few thousand. Then 4 meters and 6 pieces get 24 meters the do 6 meters and 4 pieces for 24 meters. This is all based of your first sell pricing. So if I understand it right 6 meters is the most profitable?

That's a lot of work! excellent video!

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! :)

this guy never fails at being amazing. Super helpfull!

Just joined. Ty for your hard work.

Nice, then ill stick to my 6m lengths, get more on the trailer each trip, hugely good info vid

Good job mate.

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

Great video really helpful

Great test video FC nice work! Guess we know what lengths your doing in willamina now

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Haha i will probably stick to my 12s as they work better

Excellent work. Many thanks for doing this.

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, I enjoy testing various aspects of the game :)

I love your testing videos. Great job

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Matt :)

Great work. Looking forward to seeing How much lime and weeds affect the yield.

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Fred!

@Mellman388

3 жыл бұрын

@@FarmerCop Anytime. Looking forward to more videos.

good test, i usually go (on foresty maps) with the 12m fliegl autoload and cut into 2 sections, length depend on tree growth of course but i find they yield more @6m vice 12m the fact that 10m came out at the top sale price is interesting. i may h ave to switch to that and try my equipment on it at that length.

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Yea I thought it was odd the 10m beat out everyone else. But a lot of it does come down to whether or not you have the equipment for it and what not

Another great test video.

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jeff :)

With irl loggers in my area do 8ft log widthwise and 9ft and 10ft log length because they can get more per truck load so what the best way to load a truck load because they bigger log can't stack as much then doing more shorter will be better per truck load I know it works with bales if fs19 to load bales widthwise instead of lengthwise on a longer trailer like a semi truck trailer

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

That makes sense

Since I lack money, I bought a simple claw for the tractor and cut one of the trees at my field, cleaned it with chainsaw and brought to the sawmill. It was the best I could find, a straight long fir. Only $2000. That was one kick in the nuts. Maybe I should have cut it to 2-3 pieces... So do I get it right? A full tree went for $1754 but cut to 10s it was $7461? Such a difference just for cutting? "First sell" means price of one log? So 12 m is the best at $3804? What does the "wood chip" column mean? Why 16700 for 1 and 15900 for 14? Do you get less chips for larger pieces shredded?

Now I know the best way to go with my logging operations :D

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help :)

Hey have a question for farming simulator 19 on pc will not mods not from fs19 get you in trouble

YAY! You did a video on my test suggestion! Thanks you so much! There's hardly any videos on this topic, so this helps a bunch! Funnily enough, after I suggested doing a test on this, I tried my own test as well. Even though it was on a modded map (Holmakra), I'm happy to say the results were similar to what you had. My data showed that using 8-10 meter logs were the highest gross total per tree cut into those lengths. Funnily enough, my findings found that 2m logs gave out the most woodchips (with 1m logs in second by just a 200 liters). Even funnier is the fact that a whole tree (branches and all) gave out almost 1k liters LESS than if it were cut into 1m logs (which wouldn't be the case in real life lol). Once again, thanks for doing the test as well! I wish they're were more attention to the forestry aspect of FS19. It's one thing being able to plow a field that was already opened up, but to build a farm (literally) from scratch in a forest gives you a sense of pride for it.

@volksdude1970

3 жыл бұрын

Also, something else I found out is that the girth of the log factors into the sell price as well. Thicker logs tend to go for higher prices while thinner fetch less.

@arneanka4633

3 жыл бұрын

@@volksdude1970 In perspective of this, will a cut of 8 m and the thinnest part chipped make more money than selling all parts as logs? I actually think so.

@volksdude1970

3 жыл бұрын

@@arneanka4633 I didn't go that far into detail as far as testing chip amounts per piece. I just figured if you were making woodchips, you would be trying to grind the entire tree instead of only partially doing the top half. I may try and do a second test and see how that does.

@volksdude1970

3 жыл бұрын

@@arneanka4633 Ok, so I found out I still had the save game I did the test in still at the point where I started the test. The tree I was using was around 36-ish meters. The tree was able to get cut into 4 logs with a "topper" (remaining part of the tree). I just did a quick and dirty test with chipping the topper and the thinnest part of the 8 meter cut. The "topper" only gave me a whopping 33 liters of woodchips, while chipping the last 8 meter log pushed it just over 1k liters. My test findings before showed that a whole tree chipped after cutting into 8 meter logs yielded 14,969 liters total (topper included). I guess it's up to preference. Sometimes toppers are worth more just sold instead of chipped.

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Retroace the test idea was a really good one so thank you and glad to hear the results were similiar :)

The Woodchip Trailer mod is almost game breaking in how much money it brings in for the comparatively little work you do. A full trailer will bring in between $90-100,000. The woodchip sell points give you like $500-900 per. 1000. Mix that with a logging machine and it’s a license to print money

Dont understand if this awnserd my thoughts. What gives the most money? Woodchips in lets say 8 meters lenght or 8 meter logs?

@FarmerCop

2 жыл бұрын

You will almost always make more from logs verse woodchips

very awesome i hit the like button buddy

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

Why do i find this after cutting 1000 trees on the willamina map

Great test!! On which difficulty was this test done? Maybe it would have been a good idea to also state the money that the wood chips would have fetched you per tree! I suppose that could be calculated and would all be around 3300 per tree if you consider about €200/1000l of wood chips and 16,5k l per tree or use your numbers to be more specific

@volksdude1970

3 жыл бұрын

Prices for crops fluctuate wildly during a single game (including woodchips), so it wouldn't really benefit just listing the sell price. Listing the yield of woodchips from a tree/log, though would help you decide if it would benefit from selling logs or chips if the price of chips spike.

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

I did consider leaving the price for what you would get from woodchips but like Retroace said it is so variable I figured it would not matter a lot

I've fiddled the base game price of woodchips to >50% higher. It makes it so that if you are starting out you are going to get more from woodchipping than cutting logs small enough to load by hand. Sure it increases the profit of poplars A LOT, but poplars take 3x longer to grow (insane) so even if it were doubled, it would likely be only mediocre on per-day-acre rates, a lot less than sugarcane, but with the lack of maintenance that sugarcane profits from. The problem is otherwise you are basically throwing wood away to woodchip, unless you do poplars, but poplars require a specific header and a forage harvester, and the header is a 2m one, really bad size that. Especially since the AI seems to put a minimum overlap when it lines up for the next row, and losing 1/3m out of 1.2m is a big chunk of change compared to a small 4m harvester header. Woodchips are among the first IMO that GIANTS should have increased process chains in a future game or expansion (see straw harvest). Another option would be to double the volume of woodchips you get and ~50% to the price so that you could get about the same price woodchipping as selling straight logs, but that you can carry 6 trees on an articulated trailer bed but you'd fill up the biggest trailer available with two trees, making the Jenz static a useful option (removes the shipping) despite the price cut, and late game, a balance between fiddling around with tree loading or carting A LOT of woodchips. You earn more per hour with logs than woodchipping. For the woodchipper, your problem was you needed to run the tree toward the chipper, so the log was co-axial with the belt. There are mods for different woodchippers, it falls in easy. The cheaper in-game cutter is a lot cheaper and cuts to 6m, and gets you within whistling distance of max price, and the loaders for it are more widespread. No-brainer for me. The Jenz static is still absolutely terrible, however. It should be free to place but with a c100/day upkeep to simulate you renting it. Another fiddle I did with the base game files. It costs A LOT, automatically loses 50% of its price, has a daily upkeep, and only pays out 80% of the price of woodchips AT AVERAGE PRICE. Terrible item. Unless added as a free item to a mod map.

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for that a lot of good information and insight as well as a lot of good points

what is "spawn sell"?

How about, will there be more straw/hay in each row with a bigger header on the combine and less rows or will a small header and more rows make more staw/Hay. Basically will you get the same results of straw/hay per field with a small header vs big.

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Great test idea, I will add it to the list :)

My basic math says when I look into this chart that best bet is 3m since you get decent price and you get most pieces, well over 50k if all batches were the same

Another test idea: does windrow width matter ?

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

I added to the potential futire tests list :)

I love your videos

You are the real MVP!!!

I always go with 12 m lenght, with the Johnston trailer. Seems like that is the best for me atleast. Maybe I should cut down too 10 m?? Anyhow, love your test videos, then I dont bother too do them my self. :D If you do 1m instead of 12m, you should get more woodchips, allot more cuts, therefore more chips. Dont know if the gamephysics are in too that. :) Thanks for the test :)

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

I love the Johnston trailer, you could try 10m lengths and see how it goes :) You're welcome :)

Just for reference, what is the general/average sale price per 1000L for woodchips?

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Usually between 100 and 300 dollars

What about damage? Does your vehicle need to be repaired more frequently if you run into obstacles or if cars run into you than normal use? Also, what about paint? Does your paint chip faster if you are in accidents vs normal use? Maybe this is an idea for a future video? Love your videos by the way!

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Joseph :) and that is a good test video idea thanks :)

@garretsparks6289

2 жыл бұрын

I have always wondered that as well. I was moving a long piece of slow equipment through a railroad crossing. The lights started blinking as I was passing through, the gates closed down on me and the train hit my equipment sending them flying through the air. I took note of my repair bar and didn't seem to notice a change.

For the spawn sell the spreadsheet shows 1925 for 6ft but I thought you said 1625. This was another good test.

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

I would trust the spreadsheet and not what I said it is probably the most accurate :)

@CStrieker

3 жыл бұрын

9:53 In this video the spawned 6Meter log sold for $1625. In the spreadsheet at the end of the clip he has it written as $1925.

Tyvm

👍. Try selling a 2 & 6m log together. I found the log sell price to be interesting. The tree shrinks and grows. Cool.

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

That is not a bad idea thank you!

I play on my Nintendo Switch and I enjoy just growing and selling soybean as it sells for the most for me with the least amount of work while I use the Horsch Pronto 9 DC to cultivate and seed at the same time. The only real work I do is with the trailer and selling of the crop. I use helpers and still make profit.

Has any of this changed with Platinum Release?

Famer Cop Farmer Cop

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Haha yes? :)

so i had cut a tree with the tree cutting machine and got a whole load of 8 meters and got 20-25k, then i used chainsaw and i had a whole entire load of delimbed trees so it was longer than 8 meters and it only sold for 15k, why.

Does somebody happen to know where the prices for logs are located in the game files? I would like to create a mod, that edits the selling prices for wood. Thanks in advance!

@nitrodad15

3 жыл бұрын

I have a modifier that will adjust lig prices. Was written by GTX I used it when I made my Hazzard County map. They are a locked file from FS17. Cannot be change in game files.

@DoctorDNF

3 жыл бұрын

nitrodad15 oh great! where can I find that modifier?

@nitrodad15

3 жыл бұрын

@@DoctorDNF if you are a member of Farmer Kleins discord GTX spends a lot of time there . Im nit sure where he posted the modifier. You can ask him there. I'm sure he made it public.

In mods the jhon deer 959MH cuts to 30 meters

Does anybody know if the super strength mod is on ps4?

@FarmerCop

2 жыл бұрын

Its pc only

nice

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

Here's another little test for those who like to use FDR Logging gear: In No man's Land, same tree cut at 7.6m pays 253 dlls per meter. At 9.6m pays 248 dlls per meter.

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Great to know :)

How much in total for wood chips?

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean? Income wise? The price varies map to map for woodchips

Surprising result... according to the game coding the best payouts should be on 6-8m.

way to much work for the money. just log full 4 piece pine logs and get 45k a load. buy and plant right next to the saw mill, and pay off your loans in 3 days, or 2 long days. It's a no brainer. all you need after planting, all you need is a way to cut to length, and load/transport. 2 machines can harvest a 1800 tree planting job. It's not even close. Just cycle logs, and wood chip the stumps. you shouldn't need to replant for a month. just sell all the planting equipment after you plant. then re-buy when you clear your planted trees and stumps.

theres a ponsse scorpion king mod that offers 25m in .5m increments

i always wanted to know this

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome glad it hopefully helped :)

The time required to woodchip isn't worth it. You can cycle 2 log loads for every chip load. it's not even close. I can make 100k while you try to chip your 2 or 3 trees. it's a game of volume, and I don't have to wait for chips with logs, I just go to the sale point, sell all logs, go and load up. repeat. 4-600k a day or 3 hr.

@bigcountry5520

2 жыл бұрын

also, when you plant trees. always hire it out. they seem to not exhaust the sapling count. I literally planted 1775 trees, and both my sapling pallets read 95% remaining after i planted the whole field.

@bigcountry5520

2 жыл бұрын

I currently have about 1600 trees left, worth 5 million at least. prob 8 million.

@bigcountry5520

2 жыл бұрын

purchased at a cost of 2000

Whats the name on that menu mod?

@FarmerCop

2 жыл бұрын

The Easy Development Controls or Commands

What difficulty were you on during these tests?!

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Normal, always Normal for my tests :)

@coffeeflavouredapples

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know thank you for your answer

The nmc goliath could go to 20m. But keep up the good work.

@coreyneal3705

3 жыл бұрын

If you play on the pc, it's super easy to go into the mod's file and change it to whatever length you want it to be.

@_Juke_

3 жыл бұрын

there is an Modded Ponsse skorpion that goes to 25m

@SKwishy868

3 жыл бұрын

@@_Juke_ I didn't know that.

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

All very true haha and good to know about the other mods out there thank you :)

Epic

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

Hey, love the videos, but what u should have done is just done the part where u cut it with the forestry machine

6m is profit. I don't know why but oh well! I always do 6m or wood chops to sell.

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Hey whatever works :)

Nice video. Thanks. Could you try cutting and selling the curve trees on the map. The 2 kind of tree, the white one and the red one.

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! You're welcome :) Each map has various types of trees that are different shapes it would be a lot to make a video that is useful across all maps for all players on that

@julioabarca4450

3 жыл бұрын

@@FarmerCop just the trees in Ravenport, the curves ones. Regards

interesting

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

first sell 6 meters is best meter price. 425€/meter

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Very true

Hay

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Hello :)

Tree big.

I just started logging, im not doing anymore, what a pain in the ass...

Video idea: is harvesting corn with combine better than chopping and fermenting it

@FarmerCop

3 жыл бұрын

Great idea I will add it to the list for testing :)