Who's this lady interviewing him? Every question she asks is smart and strong. Clearly did her homework. What a great job.

@laragaffney457

5 жыл бұрын

Her name is Anne-marie Mediwake, one of the hosts of Your Morning talk show in Toronto

@josephroach9793

4 жыл бұрын

Lara Gaffney well she’s underpaid

@alexmontgomery7993

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephroach9793 nah, she’s paid plenty ;)

@yurikorosal4813

3 жыл бұрын

You’re a feminist chump.

@DoodletheTravelBug

3 жыл бұрын

I was just thinking that!

"I think it’s everybody’s patriotic duty to be able to cook at least a few things reasonably well. You know, that you should, in a perfect world, as a good citizen of the world, be able to cook for yourself and a few others around you.” - Anthony Bourdain

@yocland8841

6 жыл бұрын

sleve2000 I like eating pussy

@ukevo

6 жыл бұрын

Ah, this quote was a great tribute. Then there’s that reply.

@anaksunamoon8618

6 жыл бұрын

daniel downs you're disgusting

@taco2947

6 жыл бұрын

Sam Evanson I feel better knowing Anthony would probably get a kick at that stupid ass dude's reply.

@eduardoamaya7

6 жыл бұрын

CJ yeah but I'm sure the millions and millions he's leaving behind will feed his family pretty nicely

The way he talks about his daughter with such love. It just shows you the power of depression. That someone as loved and successful as Bourdain, could be so depressed that he could not only leave all that behind...but leave his little girl as well. It’s heartbreaking. But when you are in the throws of depression, you can’t see the light. It’s all consuming. Be kind to yourself and to others. You never know what someone is going thru.

@sambailor

2 жыл бұрын

😢

@rainyfeathers7765

2 жыл бұрын

It’s selfish. He had money, Heath care, a daughter. I feel for his family, not him.

@ratflail215

2 жыл бұрын

@@rainyfeathers7765 Depression is a mental illness. No one asks for it. He was an awesome human and he was obviously not right in the head if he felt that was what he needed to do. You might call it selfish but if he was in so much pain that he felt need to escape from succesfull life then it must have been a horrible pain.

@rogerrainville1937

2 жыл бұрын

You're so correct

@2-bitsampler841

2 жыл бұрын

Bro he was killed because he was about to leak info on epstein

Miss you so much Tony. This interviewer kicked ass. He wasnt bored imo. Or sad. She did GOOD

Eerie to see him talk about his last meal. R.I.P.

@Ena48145

6 жыл бұрын

Little Gamerz HD out of all the videos I could have watched on him I clicked on this one and I thought the exact same thing.. so tragic

@luguy8347

6 жыл бұрын

Little Gamerz HD , hauntingly so.

@ateyo7554

6 жыл бұрын

Righttt

@vilespecter

6 жыл бұрын

"If I plan on dying tomorrow" That part was the worst.

@ObamaFromKenya

6 жыл бұрын

R. Ive bro that’s so funny but so wrong

My heart goes out to his daughter. He seems like a wonderful, loving Dad and she's too young to lose him.

@kmslegal7808

3 жыл бұрын

as a dad i respectfully believe he let her down

@stybur19

3 жыл бұрын

@@kmslegal7808 that's because you dont understand that he was murdered. Things are never the way they appear. Do you honestly believe he killed himself? Not only did he frequently mention his daughter and showed how much he appreciated her, he was about to set his career off even more with a tv show. Oh and not to mention he stated he had information about hillary and weinstein. Sheep like you will never comprehend how the world actually works, solely due to cognitive dissonance.

@smoll.miniatures

3 жыл бұрын

Shayne Tybur 🤦‍♀️

@cjyo9123

3 жыл бұрын

Shayne Tybur well though I do speculate on his death too, you are just being a tool right now. You don’t even know what info the guy you’re talking with has. He maybe didn’t hear about the fact he had dirt on Clinton and Epstein, and you calling him a sheep for that doesn’t really assist in a serious dialogue. I bet you don’t even believe what you’re saying, you just think your cool getting into theories. Otherwise you would’ve taken a different tone.

@radusocol2613

3 жыл бұрын

@@stybur19 Kyle go back to 4chan

Oh how I miss this man, his heart, sincerity and the respect he always showed to the "nobodies" of this world is a lesson I will carry with me for the rest of my days.

He was such a gift and I miss his very much. “Flights of angels sing thee to thy rest,” Anthony.

The irony and sadness when they mention ‘one of his last meals’. RIP Anthony. You taught us so much and it wasn’t just limited to food. One of a kind. 😢

@ObamaFromKenya

6 жыл бұрын

kismetau hard to believe he hung himself

@jlee5490

5 жыл бұрын

Everyone should be thinking about their last meal cause frankly, we're all here for a short time.

@SuperRobertoClemente

Жыл бұрын

This man joked about death and suicide a lot. I don't think he was always joking.

@neil7994

Жыл бұрын

@@SuperRobertoClemente Absolutely. The signs were always there.

This was one of the less cringy interviews that he's done. The interviewer did a great job, and I felt comradery. She asked great questions, and he answered with grace, humility and humor. A good memory from his life.

Man, I’ve been trying to figure out how to get my 4 year old how to eat outside his comfort zone since he started eating solids and Anthony just put it into perspective in 60 seconds. This guy was the goat.

She was so sweet to him, it's so nice to see. I'm looking back on Anthony interviews, and it's crazy to me how much he mentions death.

I have always liked Bourdain. He's a relatable guy, he's slightly awkward during interviews, he just seems like a normal person. He doesn't pretend it's beneath him to enjoy something cheap & fried with an ice cold beer, and he hates truffle oil.

@kirk1007

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know he hated truffle oil Lol

Wow, seriously, this is a great interview. Props to the interviewer!

@11matt11

7 жыл бұрын

It's the "new" CTV morning show in Canada, that took over from the beloved "Canada AM". The key is that they really only updated the format and made it more young people friendly, while keeping the smart side of it up. The difference between Canadian and American morning TV can be quite surprising at times. I always feel like I know more watching Canadian TV, though it's not quite as fun and relaxed as the American version, which maybe explains the difference between the two countries,

@rosalieappal8404

6 жыл бұрын

David Baker I

@razzzor1239

6 жыл бұрын

David Baker ya its weird how he says it on lots of shows, like,, if i died tomorrow this would be great, or if it was my last meal, , really sucks

@FikiNom

6 жыл бұрын

I am in Toronto and I didn't know Canada AM was axed. I may have to start watching again. I enjoy Ann Marie and I overall prefer Canadian and Brish programming because it's calmer. I, however, do watch American too because my petty side has to be acquiesced :)

@rockingbuddah

6 жыл бұрын

She is great

The three separate references to his "last meal" (1:41, 4:54 and 8:31) were a bit haunting in retrospect. RIP

@ninashewchuk8976

4 жыл бұрын

He joked about dying by suicide A LOT. In fact, the very first episode of No Reservations, which takes place in France, includes extended musings about dying in his hotel room. Really eerie and sad in retrospect.

@einstein0808

4 жыл бұрын

@@ninashewchuk8976 Wow. I didn't know that!

@kateSullivan3927

3 жыл бұрын

And his clear reference to Hunter S. Thompson, who also killed himself.

@Xhoven

2 жыл бұрын

😞

@lonniepee9804

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, OK. You've probably eaten too much Gouda and it's affected your headful of cheese.

Love u Anthony RIP

@TheMattStarling

3 жыл бұрын

holy shit!

@carlosmacmartin4205

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't know the man,but I miss him dearly. :/

@crystinamarie1

2 жыл бұрын

He was so cool.

He's so hungover here and I love him even more for it! Always living life on his terms. "You're body is not a temple it's a roller coaster so get on and enjoy the Ride"-Anthony Bourdain RIP!

@estherkibui3710

4 жыл бұрын

He got me addicted to the travel channel.

@jasonmccool4342

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like his hangover hasn't even started yet. He looks and sounds like he hasn't slept a wink.

@KEVVIE37

3 жыл бұрын

2 CORINTHIANS 6:16.. And what agreement has the temple of GOD with idols? For You are the TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD‼. As GOD has said: “I will dwell in them And walk among them. I will be their GOD, And they shall be MY people.”

@maddierosemusic

3 жыл бұрын

yeah when that clam didn't make it into the pan I was like - he's hammered already. But my mistake was he was hammered from last night! Kudos to showing up on time, like always, Chef!

@dominickjustave3558

2 жыл бұрын

Left his daughter

Woah a host/interviewer on these types of shows are always kinda annoying. Trying to be funny but failing hard or looking down on their guests. This lady however did a great job. She's charming, asks the right questions for this type of interview and she acts like a normal human and not like a robot presenter.

@11matt11

7 жыл бұрын

That's almost the definition of Canadian TV.

@stevec69

2 жыл бұрын

Made him feel super comfortable

I miss you buddy. You took us to so many places to eat and learn different cultures. Rest Easy brother.

Love Anthony, he really made Vietnamese food alive and gave it some awareness. Love the fact that two of his comfort foods are pho and bun bo hue. RIP.

Really good interviewing by that woman

@GKinslayer

7 жыл бұрын

Ditto, she did an amazing job, hope she gets some better work.

@youngmanlee6022

7 жыл бұрын

More like Bourdain is a really good guest

@snagalishusman4493

7 жыл бұрын

+Youngman lee It was a combination of both

@mantisory

7 жыл бұрын

She used to be the news anchor on CBC Toronto, went to this show for who knows what reason...she's missed..

@TheBlewis

7 жыл бұрын

she's clearly reading cue cards

I still miss Anthony Bourdain! Great interview!

@MarianneWales

5 жыл бұрын

I agree, I met him when he was in Toronto a couple yrs ago, ABSOLUTELY amazing to talk to, soo down to earth

It's so sad to know and find out today, this morning of Mr. Bourdain's passing. I say this respectively and with honor of this man who truly came a long way to join all of us, around the world to gather, share, create great memories of that moveable feast of good food, good drink, good ingredients, good ideas, good people around the world, his culinary ideas, recipes, books, videos, TV programs, just enjoyment of sharing food simply with people we are happy to be with in every bite. He will sorely be missed, I will continue reading, experimenting, enjoying the rich culinary foods and cooking he exposed us all to. I personally would've wanted to have a great conversation over some great food, sharing some great ideas, one-on-one with him as we share a meal, a table with, how lucky can anyone be if they could sit opposite this great man. Deep heartfelt condolences to his family, especially his young daughter, friends, those who remember him through his writings, cookbooks and his around the world ventures through his programs. What an inspiration, a treasure. 6-8-2018, mahalo Mr. Bourdain, may you rest in peace.

He's not really gone as long as we remember him. 😭 I am glad the best interview came from a Canadian tv show

@noelbgood8845

2 жыл бұрын

🇨🇦 > 🇺🇸

Hard to listen to his comment about this meal being a good last meal. RIP Chef. I hope you finally found peace and that your daughter, family members, and friends will eventually find peace.

@billmoyer3254

3 жыл бұрын

found peace? he traumatized his daughter through his selfish behavior.

@dianakurland2500

3 жыл бұрын

@@billmoyer3254 You obviously don’t know anything about chronic, severe pain.

@billmoyer3254

3 жыл бұрын

@@dianakurland2500 I live with chronic pain, and I assure you I don't take the path of least resistance.

Great interview, one of the first ones with Anthony where I feel the interviewer is really genuine. She deserves a raise!

Finally a host that doesn’t interrupt the guest and just let them talk and with real honest questions

You are loved, made me understand the real world, through your eyes and I got it. That is what I loved about you, you helped us all get it, without any snobbery, I am crying

"it makes me happy"....."it makes me happy" he was searching for happiness for a long time. what a great loss. a real man of all people

I came here to watch & make notes on his cooking of Vongole. Instead, mesmerized by how organic the lady's questioning which generated REAL interest in her subject. I have come away very pleased & intrigued by this journalist. Now off to purchase his book & see if she does any political coverage.

I just learned today I lost one of my favourite chefs as I have had a full on few months. It breaks my heart as Tony was one of those guys you loved to watch and enjoy. He was honest, he was brilliantly gifted and he loved taking us behind the scenes. I certainly won’t forget him. Thank you for the memories and the wonderful stories you shared with us, you will never be forgotten. Rest In Peace

Butter always reminds me of him. When asked what was the most used ingredient in every kitchen..Butter. Lots of Butter. 🖤

@junkiejackflash

4 жыл бұрын

Butter makes the world go round

One thing i'm taking from this: 'It makes me very happy.'" Thanks Anthony.

@GenevieveThornton

6 жыл бұрын

Dolphino Egglet your comment was a year ago, but it’s very sad after this past week.

Interviewers take note. This is how to do it.

"Always drink the local Beer " Anthony Bourdain , you're the reason why I've visited S.E. Asia the first time of many. RIP Tony.

Excellent video that provides a really clear portrayal of AB in a short amount of time; due to both his natural charm and deep insight paired with good timing and well-selected questions by the interviewer.

The best advice for feeding kids I've ever heard! I remember my "awakening", reading a scene in a book about some guy savouring olives. After that I went from refusing to eat food that I even suspected having onions or mushrooms in them to loving them, not instantly of course. Anthony Bourdain will live in our cherished memories. I can't believe he's gone.

I'm making this dish this weekend as my way of honoring this Great Man! Love you Anthony! I'm sure as hell gonna miss you!

@refatrabadi6656

5 жыл бұрын

Soo sad and still shocking... .Happy Anthony Bourdain Day...on June 25th. (His Birthday)

@johnvucajnk248

4 жыл бұрын

Wrote song for Bourdain on you tube - John Vucajnk, you may want to check out.

He's so relaxed and hung over, excellent interview.

@lauran3244

3 жыл бұрын

Those two don’t really go hand in hand.

How sad to lose such a great genuine soulful humble human being like Anthony Bourdain! May God save your soul and you are dearly missed by millions around the world... myself included. Goodbye and RIP Mr. Bourdain.

She was a very good interviewer. Rare host.

@DoodletheTravelBug

3 жыл бұрын

she is lovely!

Notice his said "If I PLAN on dying..." It's so sad to hear him say that. RIP Bourdain.

@carollipton4584

6 жыл бұрын

he was dropping lots of hints. Everyone just missed them.

@at1212b

4 жыл бұрын

@@carollipton4584 yupp. Seriously, even in his original book. It was really just a matter of time.

@moesimpson607

4 жыл бұрын

@@at1212b no shit sherlock...we all will die...is matter of time

@Wajz3

4 жыл бұрын

Well I mean Bourdain was never shy of death or talking about death - he knew he would die eventually like every one else. He mentioned many times how he believed he would never make it to the age he did.

He’s still teaching us yrs after his departure, RIP

Damn still after a year...still saddend .and shocking.....but will always honor him on June 25th.(his birthday)..Anthony Bourdain Day

This was a good interview because I think she was actually interested in what she was asking.

It’s still hard to wrap the mind around the idea that he’s gone. It sounds extremely sad in retrospect when you hear him talking about his daughter in this video. He obviously loved her more than anything in life; which gives you an idea of the kind of inner pain that he must have been struggling with when he decided to take his life - knowing he would leave all that he loved behind. Sometimes pain gets the better of love; those are the moments when you need a lifesaving reminder.

Why can’t all interviewers be this good. 10/10.

Usually Bourdain was interview someone, some chef, or local people, but I very enjoy the interviewer doing to Bourdain, she ask some very interesting question, perspective and vision, not too many people can do it so well. After Bourdain is gone, very hard to see another one who can travel, eat and show us the world like that,,,,Miss him much

He mentioned laksa! Malaysian part of me is jumping with joy!

Love Bourdain, even when her pisses me off. Who is the interviewer? She did a great job.

Thank you 🙏🏻 for everything, for the way you view the world, for being such good human being and for showing us the world through your eyes. I hope you find the peace your soul was searching for. Enjoy your trip

This is for grownups.... Single best culinary parenting advice I've seen!

Drink heavily with locals.

@nicole4eva111

6 жыл бұрын

Peter Parker lol

@carrrexx7190

5 жыл бұрын

I do this without any culinary interest component attached.

@lisalisa1435

5 жыл бұрын

IKR. RIP Anthony.

@AlanHope2013

3 жыл бұрын

Drink heavily with locals and have your producer arrange for a local to provide some inside information. Please. We know how TV shows work. Don't let's get too carried away because it's Bourdain. His shows work just like David Attenborough's or anyone else's shows. Things are set up in advance before the star sets foot in the country.

How ironic when Tony answers that this dish, linguine aloe vongole, would make a good last meal because it's loaded with garlic, and gives you good stinky garlicy breath - a good way to go out. Then he says if he were planning to die tomorrow he would like to eat at a high end sushi restaurant in Tokoyo...or even a bowl of noodles. Today, June 8, 2018, he exited planet Earth but will live on forever in our hearts. He changed my life, and there will never be anyone that can fill his shoes. RIP Anthony Michael Bourdain.

@ndr3473

6 жыл бұрын

Lapis Mosi

@claravela289

6 жыл бұрын

You are totally right.

My heart is broken just seeing this video RIP , you showed your public a lot of love and ideas ,you took us on many journeys that made us feel like we were with you and we thank you, peace too your family .

I miss this man. Love you Bourdain wherever you are.

Never met the guy...Not once....but I miss him....me and my mother always talked that if I could meet a celebrity any celebrity who would it be...it was Anthony Bourdain... RIP

He’s making this classic dish so effortlessly- love it

Thank you 🙏🏻 for everything, for the way you view the world, for being such good human being and for showing us the world through your eyes .

Never knew he worked with Ralph Steadman, Anthony you were a true scallywag and are truly missed..the culinary world will never be the same..R.I.P Friend

I hope he got his high-end sushi meal. Farewell AB.

@OMGWTFLOLSMH

6 жыл бұрын

In France? Nope.

@stevensonoma6646

5 жыл бұрын

camban he was in France

@radusocol2613

3 жыл бұрын

Hope he at least got some bone marrow on toast and pan-roasted foie gras

@warpspeedchic6932

3 жыл бұрын

There’s Japanese people in France

Miss him greatly.

RIP Tony, your shows always took me places that showed us just how similar we all are, great premise to your shows and you will missed, my condolences to your family, you were a gem amongst our humanity.

Only really started to watch Anthony Bourdain now with his series Parts unknown. Sad to say we lost one of the great guys. A knowledgeable, cultured and down to earth person who had his ups and downs with addiction yet came through the other side. He was a fantastic chef, writer, presenter and Father. He had plenty of good times travelling the world drinking with the locals. Such a shame he was suffering in silence putting on a brave face. He must have felt suffocated by his depression and felt he had no option but to end his life which is truly heartbreaking. RIP Buddy.

He talked a lot about death in his shows. It was clearly something he though about often. RIP. Thank you for the entertainment throughout the years.

*heart breaks over again. every time*

What a perfect show!!! In honor of a great man, I just did a portrait painting of him....😍😍😍

He actually looks healthier and content. Great interview skills.

He prepared the same dish along with his best friend Eric Ripert at The Cayman Cookout 2017 back in January, Good stuff.

stumbled on this and glad i did, nicely done and miss AB so much

I bought his cookbook and I've cooked this recipe. It's freaking good!

People like Anthony Bourdain Make America Great.

@melodyequickquick4248

6 жыл бұрын

Pedro Perez you should be proud we would love to make him an Australian just because of if his love of good food.

@sheepdog4656

6 жыл бұрын

You are so full of shit!

@koog2003

6 жыл бұрын

ahahahahah shut up

@amandashanks9362

6 жыл бұрын

Again

@Knight14649

6 жыл бұрын

How so? Because he was on tv talking about cooking? Because he wrote some books about... cooking? Traveled about seeking out new.. cooking? How did he make America great? Did he figure out a way to decrease illegal immigration, or enrich the educational system? Solve the high crime rate? Etc. just wondering. Oh yea he hung himself and left his child alone...without a dad.

Mr. Bourdain seemed like a very cool dude. (I'm using the word COOL as a slang word meaning decent,respectful and loving in this sentence)

Oh anthony. I never met you, but you being gone has left a hole in my heart. 🥲🥲🥲

He will be missed. He was one of the best food critics and food bloger of this decade.. RIP

such a shame, such an articulate, interesting, honest man....its hard to figure

@DoodletheTravelBug

3 жыл бұрын

it hurts!

Anthony is just right as usual. Comfortable in his own skin.

@barbrahwould1455

7 жыл бұрын

Kellie C genius is never comfortable in it's own skin... the pain of it goes with the territory.

@perre6385

6 жыл бұрын

T Garcia chill

@djrolln

6 жыл бұрын

Lmfao!! Jokes on you buddy. Not that comfortable anymore, huh?

May you find peace in heaven Anthony Bourdain. You're such an inspiration to many people🙏

How can you be gone? Such a brilliant humanitarian and writer,...irreplacable

I have seen so many interviews of him and he always talks about his last meal....kind of eerie

@OMGWTFLOLSMH

6 жыл бұрын

Yep. He had a dark side to him. I personally believe it was the history of heroin use/addiction. I think it permanently alters your brain chemistry. I had a friend who was very similar, former heroin addict, world traveler, smoker, drinker, funny, life of the party, artistic, smart, talented, articulate, well paying job, 2 young kids and a lovely wife. Hung himself spontaneously one afternoon after a small family squabble. He spoke of hanging himself for years, in a joking manner, whenever there was a little stress in his life. He had so much going for him, you'd never, ever, even dream he'd take his own life.

@GenevieveThornton

6 жыл бұрын

OMGWTFLOL that’s awful, yet dark and quite frightening how drugs can alter your brain forever. I feel sorry for your friend’s family :(

@dangster_2701

6 жыл бұрын

I think you nailed it

@nablaphysics

6 жыл бұрын

Genevieve y’all clearly don’t know what depression is. It’s not like you get hooked on drugs and just develop a depression from it. You get hooked on them BECAUSE of mental issues that were always there to begin with and drugs are an escape from the mental hell that people with depression deal with

@jamesnm21

6 жыл бұрын

Well he didn't have anything else to live for apparently and was very obsorbed in the world he'd made for himself based around food. He may not have understood anything else, but it's not very nice to his daughter who now will never have the chance to talk to her dad again.

Rip❤️

A very down-to-earth session. Awesome. Now I'm really glad I have that book.

Anthony Bourdain what a amazing talented chef and down to earth he will be missed. He was an ambassador of food. In different countries. Saying prayers for his daughter and family. R.I.P

I liked as soon as I saw Ralph Steadman art on the cover

At least 3 references to the last thing he’d eat in this interview. So very sad. What a great loss to us all. God bless😗

@DoodletheTravelBug

3 жыл бұрын

hurts my heart!

RIP Chef...still watching in 2019. 😍😍😍

RIP Anthony Bourdain... Your food and travel program was the one of the first program I saw in my early days and ever since I have been a great fan of yours. This world will miss you Sir...

It's so heartbreaking to hear him speak about his little girl, people don't often think about the victims left behind from suicide, I truly hope his little girl finds peace eventually and that she is surrounded by lots of love and support, I hope that for all victims left behind by suicide, suicide is a very selfish act, but I know sometimes the pain and hopelessness become too overwhelming, it's unbearable, Ive been there, I hope Anthony is at peace now, he was a wonderful person, he is deeply missed R.I.P

@hattiem.7966

5 жыл бұрын

Ditto!!I wish he had thought of his little girl.Something set him off that day.Some thing it was his Italian girlfriend.

@julietmarlowe5661

5 жыл бұрын

Selfish is an unhelpful word when describing suicide, the stigma attached to suicide can stop people from discussing their suicidal feelings.

In the earlier part he said, "my last meal", and then later he said, "if Im planning on dyin tomorrow", sadly he may have been thinking of death for some time.

The essence of a man is to inspire , teach , and accept different things in life. He opened millions of eyes to exotic places, foods and most of all, the people. I will miss his storytelling and most of all, we will miss him. Thank you Anthony Bourdain!

This was so good to watch. Thanks for sharing. RIP Tony.

I love that even Anthony Bourdain boils the pasta water over :)

Hella interview. Intelligent, informative and not insipidly stupid as most morning shows usually are in a cooking segment. WELL DONE!

Bourdain your work will stay on forever as long as they are people eating, thank you for your service to bring culture, food and humanities together on a plate for all to enjoy

When I was about 5 my father gave me the best food I have ever had. He said it was sweet bread...how could I not try it.

Down to earth.. I enjoyed watching his show.. shame he ended life so tragically

"A human being should be able to...cook a tasty meal...” Robert Heinlein. Bourdain has the tasty meal thing nailed.

I don't like the cuisine milieu or CNN but I did love Anthony Bourdain. His personality and passion is still missed .RIP friend.

Forever in my ❤. Miss him tons.

"This is for grown-up , I don't think you'll like it" Nice reverse psychology. ;-)