What doctors don't know about the drugs they prescribe | Ben Goldacre

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When a new drug gets tested, the results of the trials should be published for the rest of the medical world -- except much of the time, negative or inconclusive findings go unreported, leaving doctors and researchers in the dark. In this impassioned talk, Ben Goldacre explains why these unreported instances of negative data are especially misleading and dangerous.
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  • @RobertDePinto
    @RobertDePinto2 жыл бұрын

    We need him now. More than ever. So many are fooled by what science is, what peer review means, and the publishing system.

  • @Madmarsha

    @Madmarsha

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised people are allowed to say this these days with all the suppression going on.

  • @therealdutchidiot

    @therealdutchidiot

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Madmarsha True. Antivaxxers have been trying to silence the data. Just like Exxon did back in the day, which is a problem up to this day. The publishing structure is just a sidetrack. Keep in mind this talk is TEN years old. And yes, medicine in the US (FDA is US only) is bonkers, it isn't trusted anywhere near the world stage.

  • @Coneman3

    @Coneman3

    Жыл бұрын

    You’re not wrong. I posted a video like this on a WhatsApp group, got ejected from the group, and contacted by police after I texted the person. We are turning into a corrupt police state. It’s like 1984 come true!

  • @billybandyk0720

    @billybandyk0720

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@Madmarsha More like "oppression" & "censorship" than "suppression" but I got the gist.

  • @humanresetproject

    @humanresetproject

    5 ай бұрын

    AMEN

  • @mattgilbert7347
    @mattgilbert73477 жыл бұрын

    Somewhere along the line we lost sight of what science is and instead have focused on what sells.

  • @ericbartol

    @ericbartol

    6 жыл бұрын

    Matt Gilbert It is the money. When money encounters science, or politics, or religion, or anything else, things get turned away from where they should be headed. Money may be the root of all evil, as the saying goes, but we all know that money is a rampant force in everything these days.

  • @petitio_principii

    @petitio_principii

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's not just money. It will happen in other scientific areas without the evil "big pharma" interests to skew results into false positives. If you find that men are more likely than women to hit the car horn when someone cuts in front of them, you're more likely to be published than if you had found it's about the same.

  • @olaolu10

    @olaolu10

    5 жыл бұрын

    Damn straight

  • @pagogo84

    @pagogo84

    4 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't have said it any better!

  • @trafficjon400

    @trafficjon400

    4 жыл бұрын

    Only human. stinks and man will out smart him self

  • @rhondaweber1908
    @rhondaweber19086 жыл бұрын

    It's more than not publishing negative results, it's suppressing results.

  • @naberrrrr5678

    @naberrrrr5678

    5 жыл бұрын

    exactly...

  • @r.b.4611

    @r.b.4611

    5 жыл бұрын

    If there's a culture of publishing negative results it will be harder to suppress results.

  • @conniegomez1321

    @conniegomez1321

    4 жыл бұрын

    Fife and others had Cancer CURES in the 1930's. They had their research labs destroyed and facts trashed!!!!

  • @s104118

    @s104118

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's not just negative results that are suppressed. But also traditional/natural approaches. Approaches used when there was more health. (And very few heart attacks.) It all means sickness benefits is crowded. But health benefits is a good opportunity.

  • @trafficjon400

    @trafficjon400

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Wilson Pablo care about what?

  • @salimzwein
    @salimzwein10 жыл бұрын

    this guy is a hero

  • @MultiChrisjb

    @MultiChrisjb

    2 жыл бұрын

    And amazing hair!

  • @brendansmyth5053

    @brendansmyth5053

    3 ай бұрын

    Sure is mate 👍🏻👍🏻🇦🇺

  • @SilverShadow02
    @SilverShadow0211 жыл бұрын

    The statement that 100,000 people died as a result of the testing of one drug literally had me crying. This is a horrible thing that is happening.

  • @Dragon-Slay3r

    @Dragon-Slay3r

    4 ай бұрын

    Testing died from cancer and agent 47 had plenty of 💔 covers to cover it 😂

  • @richardsackler7627

    @richardsackler7627

    3 ай бұрын

    People have no idea how big of a scumbag some doctors are. No clue.

  • @wdtony
    @wdtony11 жыл бұрын

    An SSRI adverse reaction almost killed me in 2006. Serotonin Syndrome....but my doctor wanted to blame an "underlying condition" at first. Now I know high numbers of people have died or suffered brain damage from these prescription drugs. Yet, the marketed induced paradigm is that these drugs are safe.

  • @beannamated

    @beannamated

    2 жыл бұрын

    @wdtony. How are you doing today? I was disabled by an SSRI and know many who have also had horrible experiences, permanent disabilities including brain damage, and many who died. WMD. I hope you are doing ok.

  • @wdtony

    @wdtony

    Жыл бұрын

    @@beannamated Better than the first 3 years. But still have major damage to my CNS and Blood Brain Barrier.

  • @themanisright12345

    @themanisright12345

    Жыл бұрын

    Psychiatry is fucking evil.

  • @Kameron-The-Crafter

    @Kameron-The-Crafter

    Жыл бұрын

    @@beannamated I'm so sorry. I'm thinking of dropping the rest of my meds. I dropped lamprogine. Because I kept forgetting things. I kept losing balance, and getting severe headaches. And that's not including sleep issues.

  • @laurawillingham1965
    @laurawillingham19654 жыл бұрын

    And as of September 2019, it still hasn't been "fixed", sadly.

  • @onewiselady6412

    @onewiselady6412

    4 жыл бұрын

    Laura Willingham No it’s has not I’m so bloody mad My husband died by suicide 4 years ago and was prescribed ZOLOFT - one of the worst

  • @trafficjon400

    @trafficjon400

    3 жыл бұрын

    What makes ya think its going too? 2020

  • @julianshepherd2038

    @julianshepherd2038

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not yet 7/21

  • @laurawillingham1965

    @laurawillingham1965

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@onewiselady6412 I am so very sorry for your and your family's loss. I can't imagine how difficult it must be for you all. I pray comfort and strength as you continue to walk through this very sad loss.

  • @onewiselady6412

    @onewiselady6412

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@laurawillingham1965 wow Thankyou for such a lovely comment ❤️

  • @conodeen3588
    @conodeen35885 жыл бұрын

    This is so very important! Replication or REPEATABILITY is one of the cornerstones of science. I’m a PhD student in geoscience/engineering and I find it so frustrating when I read papers and am not able to replicate even elementary results in the lab. Unfortunately, full scale replication is a very technically complex, time consuming, and expensive process. It is going to be to be impossible to do replication without heavy incentives. And currently incentives are basically a BIG ZERO! All of the emphasis is on novelty! We need to fix this across the board. Not just in medicine. (And no, this doesn’t excuse people for being anti-science! Plenty of great work out there.)

  • @laurawillingham1965

    @laurawillingham1965

    4 жыл бұрын

    The problem is the fact that each person is genetically and epigeneticly different. Foods, environmental exposures such as mold/metals/chemicals, birth and infancy factors such as feedings, conditions in the womb, allergens/sensitivities/blood types, and social situations all play a massive role in addition to genetics. Trials never consider those variables, sadly. Microbiome is crucial and is highly individualized. Sadly, the approach of the standard medical community completely disregards the most important aspect of our bodies, the digestive system. It indeed does matter. Even Hippocrates knew that. Functional Medicine has far more of a clue than our standard medical community.

  • @sawtoothiandi

    @sawtoothiandi

    4 жыл бұрын

    hello, could you please have a look at this study and tell me what you think, thanks Inhibition of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus replication in a lethal SARS-CoV BALB/c mouse model by stinging nettle lectin, Urtica dioica agglutinin www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3085190/

  • @Alphacentauri819

    @Alphacentauri819

    3 жыл бұрын

    Laura Willingham yes, yes, yes!!!! So glad to read this comment... I actually had to recheck (username) that i hadn’t written it at another time 😂 I’ve written very similar comments. I used to work in a hospital... I remember my epidemiology class lit something in me, I had the planting of the idea that “results” could really be anything. Everyone is an individual in multifaceted ways. We can’t ever test/study each type with every pharmaceutical, with every potential diet, environment, genetic makeup and the potential billion combos. I’ve said for a while, we are all guinea pigs. Always. We really never know. Additionally, there ARE people who are epigenetically susceptible to many environmental triggers, INCLUDING vaccines. Not that vaccines will damage all of them. But that they are the canaries in the coal mine...and we aren’t acting as if that’s possible .

  • @trafficjon400

    @trafficjon400

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sawtoothiandi 5-6 year old video and your high standards don't mind ?

  • @sawtoothiandi

    @sawtoothiandi

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@trafficjon400 sorry, i dont understand what you mean?

  • @obiektywemlibby3449
    @obiektywemlibby34499 жыл бұрын

    oh well... we all live in the world full of corruption. I'm glad not everyone is blind...

  • @gr8pillock
    @gr8pillock11 жыл бұрын

    Still one of my absolute favorite of ALL the TedTalks I've seen. Just a genius. A freakin hero.

  • @trafficjon400

    @trafficjon400

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hero for what by showing fear is real and he knows he a pee in a pot and people laughing at him like he's crazy. worse 2020 and on. We see Doctor it's our fault these days.

  • @jasonbourne5142

    @jasonbourne5142

    2 жыл бұрын

    Youre a left wing nut

  • @beannamated

    @beannamated

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@trafficjon400 if that's all you got out of it, please rewatch.

  • @trafficjon400

    @trafficjon400

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@beannamated My Comments below might say a little more. a little of it . he is a sharp cooky .

  • @nathanieldoromal6904
    @nathanieldoromal69043 жыл бұрын

    Hiding information and research bias has taken on untold heights with COVID-19.

  • @jazzlynnicole1906

    @jazzlynnicole1906

    2 жыл бұрын

    THIS! i am SO over the propaganda.

  • @dragonballjiujitsu
    @dragonballjiujitsu11 жыл бұрын

    Its nice to see someone with credibility saying what me and others have been saying for 20+ years.

  • @Steel9k

    @Steel9k

    Жыл бұрын

    You and others had kind of the sam credibility, actually. Stupid ones didnt understand you. Dont understand life around them...

  • @frankyduks
    @frankyduks8 жыл бұрын

    this guy's got balls

  • @thatleftypapist8008

    @thatleftypapist8008

    7 жыл бұрын

    How so? A lot of people who care about evidence-based medicine have been vocal on this issue.

  • @mattw9011

    @mattw9011

    7 жыл бұрын

    Truth is not about having the balls, it's about having the respect for what you do and what you believe in so that others know the truth. Nothing about having balls.

  • @kassi4837

    @kassi4837

    6 жыл бұрын

    Franky Duks he stands up to dragons , metaphorically speaking and spares no field his arguments. I am thankful for every day he lives.

  • @mrbroderick8581

    @mrbroderick8581

    5 жыл бұрын

    He doesn’t. He won’t speak out about the PACE trial because his boss was the architect Simon Wessley

  • @cowswirl

    @cowswirl

    3 жыл бұрын

    medicine balls

  • @ZER0--
    @ZER0--3 жыл бұрын

    What I found out recently shocked me. When testing a drug, or other substances, on rats the researchers can use different types of rats which can lead to different results. I was quite surprised as it can be used to give you more favourable results.

  • @adriangodoy4610

    @adriangodoy4610

    2 жыл бұрын

    you can try multiple animals until you find the best to actually conduct the studies

  • @alexforget

    @alexforget

    2 жыл бұрын

    Those rat has very high replication of cells, which means that they recover easily from damage done by drugs. The tradeoff is that the rats all die of cancer (lots of cell replication) The rats are breaded to have those characteristics, which means that drugs tested on them show way less damage and help the cosmetics and pharma industry push those products to market faster. For sure, the lab will keep on buying the ’good’ rats that produce the results they want.

  • @staceystrukel1917

    @staceystrukel1917

    2 жыл бұрын

    They also remove the test subjects, rat's, if they don't get the result they want it all of them.

  • @Steel9k

    @Steel9k

    Жыл бұрын

    At vaccine testing, using placebo is not necessary.

  • @deejay8ch
    @deejay8ch2 жыл бұрын

    This video is more valid now than ever. Thank you Bret Weinstein for directing me to it

  • @osteopathichomeopathicking6154
    @osteopathichomeopathicking6154 Жыл бұрын

    Hard to believe TED published this.

  • @maheshsnair1
    @maheshsnair1 Жыл бұрын

    One of the most important videos on youtube.

  • @channandlerb4002
    @channandlerb40025 жыл бұрын

    I completely agree with speaker Ben Goldacre and his informational talk on the issue of publication bias. Publication bias can be especially dangerous when viewed through the lens of medical ethics. When doctors look at prescribing medications, especially medications that are new to the market, most of them strive to be as informed as possible about the medication’s effectiveness, benefits, and risks. They operate under the premise of non-maleficence - to “do-no-harm” - and yet despite their best efforts, if the information that they need is not published, they will unintentionally have a skewed view of the medication they prescribe. This is worrying considering that the trials with negative results that do not get published are likely to be the most transparent and informational resource about the medication’s negative side effects. Even in the tragic situation that the medication’s risky benefits outweigh all the negative side effects, doctors are ill-equipped to monitor their patients for the appropriate warning signs of any serious complications, all because these journals favor positive results over negative. Publication bias also makes it impossible for doctors to protect a patient’s autonomy. Doctors strive to abide by the ethical principle of autonomy, where it is their duty to provide each patient with the best chance of making well-informed decisions about their health care. However, if accurate, transparent information is not available to inform a doctor of a medication’s risks and side effects, they in turn cannot give their patients a clear, well-informed choice either. While I understand the excitement of positive test results and the forward momentum of innovation they provide to the scientific community, our progress is meaningless if we ever let our strive for discovery outpace our sense of humanity.

  • @andy4an
    @andy4an10 жыл бұрын

    This guys has another great TED called "Ben Goldacre: Battling Bad Science"

  • @robbiemc9253
    @robbiemc92533 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing such an insightful talk, it's intriguing to see professional bodies standing up and sharing the truth with regards to suppressed research findings and more 👏

  • @dlpogge
    @dlpogge4 жыл бұрын

    “Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.” ― Eric Hoffer, The Temper of Our Time. So it is with modern medicine.

  • @cardiacmyxoma4073
    @cardiacmyxoma40735 жыл бұрын

    I told my mom (a cardiologist) and she said that she knew this was going on. That’s why she tries to prescribe alternatives to medication.

  • @antuanclamaran1205

    @antuanclamaran1205

    4 жыл бұрын

    What kind of alternatives to medication ?

  • @GreenLakes1

    @GreenLakes1

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@antuanclamaran1205 water fasting, eating better/cleaner etc, i'm going to be a nurse practitioner when I get older.

  • @antuanclamaran1205

    @antuanclamaran1205

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@GreenLakes1 Eating healthier food + Exercising + Eating less (if overweight) are always good, especially if you do all three.

  • @GreenLakes1

    @GreenLakes1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Antuan Clamaran Exactly, which is why I don’t get it when people say doctors try to “kill us” when I was younger I got diagnosed with pre diabetes and the doctor told me to eat once a day, exercise and stay away from fruits and try to eat as many vegetables as I can and prescribed 200mg of metformin , following her orders I lost 40lbs and got rid of the pre diabetes, the only doctors who are actually “out to get us” are the ones who prescribe medications every visit.

  • @antuanclamaran1205

    @antuanclamaran1205

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@GreenLakes1 It varies wildly, from doctor to doctor, from country to country etc. Since governments aren't doing a great job caring for the people's health, it's up to each individual to educate himself and care for his own health.

  • @bluecafe509
    @bluecafe50910 жыл бұрын

    This has been going on for years. I had a professor whose work, which was damning to the testing industry (academic testing), could never get his research published in the more popular journals. He was widely regarded as an authority in his field, but journal gatekeepers are free to accept or reject the research they choose. We now know that tests do not predict future performance in school and that the best predictor of future academic success is indeed past level of academic attainment.

  • @kissykrissy33
    @kissykrissy332 жыл бұрын

    Checking in during the middle of 2021, it's fascinating the foreshadowing we have missed

  • @FunkyMonkeyJunkie302
    @FunkyMonkeyJunkie30211 жыл бұрын

    I love this man so much. For so many reasons. I could listen to him speak for days on end.

  • @chriscoffee9070
    @chriscoffee90702 жыл бұрын

    This is one of the reasons I avoid doctors and any prescribed drugs and other 'medicine' wherever possible. Unless you're seriously ill there is always a way to treat it with something that comes from nature, by eating more of something, or less of something, or applying something that comes direct from something that grows naturally, or just by ignoring it as best as possible and letting your body fix it, and so being better suited to resist it next time.

  • @bipedalbob

    @bipedalbob

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's a very flawed theory, every other animal on the planet suffer from and die from the same illnesses that humans do. And the only ones that ever see a doctor are the ones being cared for by humans.

  • @ravindrajogdand3786

    @ravindrajogdand3786

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's true.

  • @pavel0900
    @pavel09002 жыл бұрын

    Even more relevant today than 9 years ago when this video came out

  • @Primalxbeast
    @Primalxbeast11 жыл бұрын

    I watched some of his other videos, and he does seem like a nice guy, but I've had mental health problem all of my life, and I'm 41 now so I've encountered many psychiatrists, and they tend to be a very nasty lot. If you'd ever been in psych wards, you'd know that shrinks treat patients like criminals. No other doctors treat patients as if they're to blame for their illnesses.

  • @beannamated

    @beannamated

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you aren't familiar with Mad in America by Robert Whitaker, it's a good place to start regarding this subject and connect with others of like mind and experience.

  • @diableri
    @diableri11 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Keep up the good work. 13 years in Cardiac Research.

  • @adamlees1720
    @adamlees172010 жыл бұрын

    I'm a pharmacy student, well aware of the multi-tiered criticism of SSRIs. I was having some trouble with mental health and after practically begging with a psychiatrist, and staff at my uni, i still am being forced by the university to follow his orders and take a course of citalopram. It's been incredibly stressful, i feel completely impotent in my own care and the credibility i've worked hard for has been completely ignored. I'm going to have to lie to the mental health staff and tell them i'm taking my medication, i feel dishonest and feel that my care has been completely compromised by this, my depression and self-esteem has never been worse. I understand there are billions (even trillions) of pounds at stake for the pharmaceutical companies, but I wonder if they have some excuse for their behaviour, or if they simply don't think about it. They deserve to have their noses rubbed in every life they've affected or cost

  • @TeaEmess

    @TeaEmess

    9 жыл бұрын

    The excuse is "there are billions (even trillions) of pounds at stake for the pharmaceutical companies." It justifies everything they do. Truth doesn't matter when money is at stake.

  • @jheijmans9282

    @jheijmans9282

    9 жыл бұрын

    www.ssristories.net

  • @GerardGibney3

    @GerardGibney3

    6 жыл бұрын

    they dont care at all.

  • @JB-lj4dm

    @JB-lj4dm

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was forced antipsychotic drug and caused breast enlargements and weight gain

  • @JB-lj4dm

    @JB-lj4dm

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was forced antipsychotic drug and caused breast enlargements and weight gain

  • @MistaTwitch
    @MistaTwitch2 жыл бұрын

    Great work!

  • @nico5167
    @nico5167 Жыл бұрын

    This Ted Talk was both frightening and eye opening to me as a physician in training. When prescribing medicine, we have a duty to patient autonomy and beneficence in each patient encounter. This would mean we present all the information in an unbiased way to allow patients to make informed decisions about their own medical care, as well as illustrate and work with them to weigh the risks and benefits of each procedural avenue. Medical research is the cornerstone that allows us to provide this information for safety and efficacy, but in this lecture we learn that scientific and medical journals, as well as the researchers themselves, may be engaging in unethical scientific practices that unravel this trust between lab and clinic. Ben shares many instances about negative results being suppressed or completely ignored in order to construct a positive outcome for the research team and journal. A positive outcome for a clinical trial can lead to exorbitant financial gain, or status and recognition in the scientific community for the lab and investigators. There is certainly a pressure to find positive results, but here we see that this pressure has overridden the ethical duty of honesty and transparency we so desperately need as physicians. We can only operate with the information we are given, and if negative side effects are suppressed as discussed here, we are by proxy not upholding beneficence ourselves. But what else can we do? How are we supposed to know if the information we trust has been construed for selfish benefit? The COVID-19 vaccination campaign and pandemic policy has unfortunately hindered the community’s trust in both research and medical institutions. This Ted Talk provides reasonable ground for those hesitancies. I myself as a physician in training was skeptical of propaganda and confusing encouragement for vaccine recommendations for young and pregnant individuals when there was not enough data to support efficacy or safety profile. It was easy to see that there may be financial pressures by pharma companies placed upon laboratories or government personnel. I think we may discover that a similar offense as discussed in this talk has occurred in the COVID-19 vaccine story. I think serious penalties need to be in place for labs and journals who are dishonest in their publications and the fault for adverse side effects from prescriptions if not published should not fall at the feet of the physicians.

  • @tapary
    @tapary11 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Mr. Goldacre for providing this information. Many people are willing to trust certain institutions/organizations, forgetting that all institutions are susceptible to corruption, whether public or private. I hope that this wakes up millions!

  • @davidcrawford9026
    @davidcrawford90262 жыл бұрын

    it's all so clear and plain as day. there is no reason left for all doctors to not know this. They must want to hurt people

  • @eddiediesel9035
    @eddiediesel90353 жыл бұрын

    Great speaker.Awesome video.

  • @BullCricket75
    @BullCricket755 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @basskick666
    @basskick6662 жыл бұрын

    To all the people who think this video is in favour of untested herbal medicine here is a quote from Ben Goldacre himself "Just just because there are flaws in aircraft design that doesn't mean flying carpets exist."

  • @gamerwoman6991

    @gamerwoman6991

    2 жыл бұрын

    He is a funny guy

  • @54jb3r7
    @54jb3r711 жыл бұрын

    studying medicine, this provided a useful insight. thanks for sharing.

  • @consuetabrevis
    @consuetabrevis6 жыл бұрын

    thanks man!

  • @sandraslastan8407
    @sandraslastan84077 жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @eloycavazos2816
    @eloycavazos28169 жыл бұрын

    Ben you have the coolness of Marty McFly from Back to the Future and Doctor Who. Keep up the nerdy science!

  • @Genesislights
    @Genesislights2 жыл бұрын

    I love science, just can’t trust the scientists sometimes

  • @prasad_d099
    @prasad_d0993 жыл бұрын

    I searched about this topic because i came across the book death by prescription....people don’t think this is subject of concern unless they affect by this

  • @Friemelkubus
    @Friemelkubus11 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tip! I'll check it out later.

  • @santoshshedge4436
    @santoshshedge44364 жыл бұрын

    Very true Dr. Ben. This is all due to the 'greed' the pharma industry thrives on. As of today, with the race to develop the COVID-19 vaccine, I'm not sure whether really there would be a 'vaccine' or the immunity wonder within all works the real wonders. Does vaccine really works on viruses?

  • @brunildealbanese9419

    @brunildealbanese9419

    2 жыл бұрын

    Vaccines are safe. Covid kills. Depends on the drug

  • @kbit22

    @kbit22

    Жыл бұрын

    I recommend the book Good-Bye Germ Theory, it will answer that question. Spoiler: No it doesn’t help at all!

  • @jazzytunesmusic
    @jazzytunesmusic9 жыл бұрын

    After watching this video, it's clear to me that integrity and wisdom are rare values particularly in the field of medicine and corporate world..

  • @jazzytunesmusic

    @jazzytunesmusic

    9 жыл бұрын

    Henry Ibbs and to commit crimes is human, too. Nice logic.

  • @myreddays

    @myreddays

    9 жыл бұрын

    Henry Ibbs Can you be more cynical?

  • @myreddays

    @myreddays

    9 жыл бұрын

    Henry Ibbs These are not errors, Pharmaceutical companies are driven by profit not honesty. And even if we were talking about errors, this is serious stuff. It is at least inappropriate, cynical at the most, to state that 'humans err'.

  • @myreddays

    @myreddays

    9 жыл бұрын

    Henry Ibbs I took your expression as an exoneration, as if you were downplaying the seriousness of this. It is stills sounds mild to me to call this an 'error', no matter what the dictionary says. Fraud implies an awareness, a deliberateness that is not present in the word 'error' or 'mistake'. In any case, if you agree on the gravity of these crimes, then definitions are secondary. And it sounded 'cynical' not naive. Cynicism implies awareness, again, as in fraud. Calling yourself naive really would imply that you are not aware of the main elementary forces the govern society and human behavior. That would be very, very naive. That's why it sounded cynical to me, just because of a matter of probability and common sense.

  • @eggheadeinstein

    @eggheadeinstein

    9 жыл бұрын

    Jazzy, take it from a guy with a family of not just physicians, but surgeons and field specialists. They do not have integrity for their profession. Whereas most professionals know something about everything, and where it came from and why.. I've found the medical field is a lot more about dry procedure. In fact, I developed tinnitus and saw three specialists who said it was not curable. It took me two years but i narrowed it down to certain preservatives, mainly nitrates and phosphates. After a certain amount, my ears act up big time in the form of bad ringing that will last for days. When i first got it i was devouring souvlakis daily, and these are heavily nitrated for restaurant storage. Tell me, why did i figure it out for myself, whereas the word preservative was not even mentioned once as a possibility? Most questions to people in the field are answered with "I don't know." In the case of eye floaters, most opto doctors will tell you the laser doesn't work. And yet, there they are, right on youtube. A guy getting his floaters laser treated before our very eyes. Perhaps the procedure has its risks, perhaps the results vary, but the answer from 90% of their community of professionals is a flat out "Can't be done." The next time a doctor tells you something, don't thank him for his advice, ask him why he feels that way.

  • @WhiteRussianBC
    @WhiteRussianBC11 жыл бұрын

    Great speech!

  • @A1shreyasb
    @A1shreyasb9 жыл бұрын

    great talk! wholeheartedly agree.

  • @KanyeT1306
    @KanyeT13062 жыл бұрын

    More relevant over the past two years than any time previously. This entire pandemic has been a complete failure of the medical establishment. They have burnt all credibility that they will never recover with their negligence.

  • @beannamated

    @beannamated

    2 жыл бұрын

    🎯🎯🎯. And many people STILL buy into it.

  • @aqilshamil9633

    @aqilshamil9633

    Жыл бұрын

    @@beannamated stupid sheeple can't be taught

  • @Plur307
    @Plur30711 жыл бұрын

    As a graduate student I must admit my fellow students and I always joke how we wish there was a journal of negative results. We could all have multiple publications already!!!

  • @beannamated

    @beannamated

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great idea

  • @dreaminginnoother
    @dreaminginnoother11 жыл бұрын

    you know, I'm no doctor, but I have dealt with many of them, and I have observed this to be a huge problem. Hopefully on this platform, we can get it fixed and his suggestion to fix is practical and doable in this information age.

  • @brendanoreilly6917
    @brendanoreilly69173 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant - thanks.

  • @jasonmarkson3773
    @jasonmarkson37735 жыл бұрын

    2019 and it has STILL NOT been fixed

  • @trafficjon400

    @trafficjon400

    4 жыл бұрын

    just get worse more people in agony droping dead and commiting suicide. God love us,

  • @onewiselady6412

    @onewiselady6412

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jason Markson - correct Took my husband’s life 4 years ago

  • @lt7587

    @lt7587

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@onewiselady6412 I am so very sorry to hear such tragic news about your husband. This should never have had to happen to him - or to you his wife... We will keep fighting this, it has to stop. Justice must prevail! In the UK since yesterday there has been a small but key change, really a slight improvement: there is now more advice available to GPs about psych drug withdrawal, which means their inability to react to that advice will no longer be based on their ignorance..What they do with that extra long-needed info though is for now down to them, some will do good with it and some perhaps not. It feels like a step in the right direction hopefully..Baby steps.. The fight will not stop however, I want to reassure you of that. Sending you warm thoughts and solidarity ❤

  • @onewiselady6412

    @onewiselady6412

    3 жыл бұрын

    Louisa Tamburro wow... had forgotten i even wrote that comment here. 11 months feels like a lifetime ago. Thankyou for being so kind ❤️

  • @lt7587

    @lt7587

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@onewiselady6412 you're so welcome and it's the least that any of us can do to - we're in this together ❤ . Best wishes to you and your family.

  • @happyd9733
    @happyd97332 жыл бұрын

    Bret Weinstein sent me here

  • @babsskett2757
    @babsskett27572 жыл бұрын

    Wow!! This was very, very interesting. Very infornative. Thank you so much for this video. God bless you.

  • @dannyc8875
    @dannyc88755 жыл бұрын

    Plz, plz, plz never stop. How in the world can u not want this practice to end IMMEDIATELY. And a million thx for exposing this. We need more like u.

  • @fgfanta
    @fgfanta2 жыл бұрын

    Still actual. More actual than ever.

  • @ligable
    @ligable11 жыл бұрын

    It takes far more courage to be able to change one's view than stay the same regardless of damning evidence against it. Good on him for bringing it to our attention.

  • @macoxupo
    @macoxupo11 жыл бұрын

    Wery usefull info!!! Thank you very-very much!!!

  • @afivahdewianggraeni821
    @afivahdewianggraeni8214 жыл бұрын

    I'm just an undergraduate student who amaze to what he talk about, and this absolutely true, In the place i'm study at, you can't even pass your final essay if your research result negative

  • @Wils0n951
    @Wils0n95111 жыл бұрын

    "Everybody Lies" Dr. Gregory House

  • @holdenrobbins852

    @holdenrobbins852

    2 жыл бұрын

    Especially the pharma companies/researchers.

  • @r0mulyni2
    @r0mulyni22 жыл бұрын

    Amazing was listening to DarkHorse Podcast that brought me here.

  • @ZackaryMusgrove
    @ZackaryMusgrove11 жыл бұрын

    This was quite interesting, explains a few things I've seen as well.

  • @aishwarya_ganapathy
    @aishwarya_ganapathy5 жыл бұрын

    his voice and the way of speaking ♡.... and he made wonderful points. this is why I want to do medical writing.

  • @hassanali-ys7qn

    @hassanali-ys7qn

    2 жыл бұрын

    where you from.

  • @PacoRV
    @PacoRV2 жыл бұрын

    August 2021 and we are pushing non FDA approved vaccines to the entire population.

  • @john12152
    @john121522 жыл бұрын

    Weird, they knew things 8 years ago...why are we morons today?

  • @rainbowlifeme
    @rainbowlifeme3 жыл бұрын

    People need to see this

  • @user-cc5od3zk4p
    @user-cc5od3zk4p7 ай бұрын

    I have chronic insomnia. The doctor prescribed an anti psychotic for sleep. I researched the drug and it could be prescribed, off label to patients with a history of serious psychiatric issues. I took it to a pharmacist friend who, was very alarmed. He asked for the script, called the doctor, and, proceeded to blast her. He said she could have caused serious to me and commended me for researching first and, informing him. I’m done with doctors unless absolutely necessary.

  • @ricardoafonso7884
    @ricardoafonso78846 жыл бұрын

    Ben pointed out what some may say the obvious. Its all down to incentives. If we live in a capitalist system where profit is the ultimate goal, how can anyone expect a different outcome (in medicine or any other field)? Let's be honest and admit we'd all do the same if we were chairing the FDA, SEC, CDC, FED or any other supervising institution. Not saying communism or socialism is the answer .. but this is the other side of capitalism we have to live with

  • @mo-om

    @mo-om

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think things like health and education, among others, should be left to governments. They are just too important to be left to greedy corporates who prioritize profit over the general good.

  • @yingyang1008

    @yingyang1008

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nonsense - I wouldn't vaccinate a child with something dangerous like Gardasil no matter who much money they threw at me

  • @mattbalfe2983

    @mattbalfe2983

    3 жыл бұрын

    A vita role of government should be to correct bad incentive structures. Unfortunately, politics usually makes that seemingly impossible to do consistently well.

  • @ketofitforlife2917
    @ketofitforlife29172 жыл бұрын

    Oh, hm... similar sentiments on current events as well. Fear can make people nearly do anything. That's what government and big pharma work in.

  • @Lambieschmoo
    @Lambieschmoo11 жыл бұрын

    I know. I'm in "the field" Best you can do is be as informed as possible

  • @how.disability.justice
    @how.disability.justice Жыл бұрын

    11:02 do you have a link to the article in PLOS Medicine? I'm looking for it within Sept 2012 (within "...this week's edition..." from talk date, which TED says is Sept 27, 2012)

  • @cassieoz1702
    @cassieoz17025 жыл бұрын

    The academic journals get a large part of their money from either pharmaceutical research or selling article reprints (to drug reps).

  • @malakeet

    @malakeet

    5 жыл бұрын

    May I ask how you know this? I'm not disputing it, just really interested in finding proof of it.

  • @cassieoz1702

    @cassieoz1702

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@malakeet it was in an article written by a previous editor of BMJ, cant remember when i read it. Apparently something like (dont quote me) 1/3 of their income was drug companies buying reprints of (favourable) articles for distribution to doctors and was cited as contributing to why they are reluctant to publish unfavourable papers (ie no orders for copies of those)

  • @shuttereff3ct593
    @shuttereff3ct5936 жыл бұрын

    WTH? people are dying because of these evil companies !

  • @jimmydane34

    @jimmydane34

    5 жыл бұрын

    Shutter Eff3ct Its.ok..the CEO got a 20 million $ yearly bonus for successful profits for year to.uear growth. I'm sure they can manage.

  • @BroccoliBeefed

    @BroccoliBeefed

    5 жыл бұрын

    And if they don't come up with "magic" pills, people like you complain and organize whiny public marches

  • @jazzlynnicole1906

    @jazzlynnicole1906

    2 жыл бұрын

    there's no money in healthy people. sick people keep coming back. that's why we need to stop putting our wellness in the hands of THEM, and heal ourselves✨

  • @Gasp7000
    @Gasp70004 жыл бұрын

    Excellent!

  • @reddirtwalker8041
    @reddirtwalker80412 жыл бұрын

    Everyone needs to watch this today.

  • @Roedygr
    @Roedygr6 жыл бұрын

    Governments should do the testing. Drug companies should pay for it. They might farm out the work. If a testing company is caught cheating it gets a fine and no more contracts. putting it out of business.

  • @doriscastillo2232

    @doriscastillo2232

    3 жыл бұрын

    Government maje money from drugs companies

  • @AbdulazizUgas
    @AbdulazizUgas4 жыл бұрын

    I'm miserable because i'm forced to take "antipsychotic injections" called abilify. Ive gained 60lbs in two months. I now have anxiety, depression and sm always sleepy and tired. Im not accountable to my actions because this isnt the actual me, im being stifled and suffocated

  • @GreenLakes1

    @GreenLakes1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Try water fasting!

  • @AbdulazizUgas

    @AbdulazizUgas

    4 жыл бұрын

    Enibokun Ero I’ve just got off the meds a month ago. Officially a free man :)

  • @DaliaDawn
    @DaliaDawn11 жыл бұрын

    I massively applaud!

  • @mathewtroup7934
    @mathewtroup79342 жыл бұрын

    Relevant today

  • @trishayamada807
    @trishayamada8076 жыл бұрын

    These biases in medicines is even worse if you happen to be female. Most human test trials are done on males because female bodies are more complicated with their hormones and the risks of pregnancy.

  • @marielubin8830

    @marielubin8830

    5 жыл бұрын

    you know because women don't volunteer to get tested,

  • @ishrendon6435

    @ishrendon6435

    2 жыл бұрын

    Its unfortunate but male and female bodies are more similar than different not to say theres no difference at all but it isnt as big of a deal. Id argue men because many drugs dont work on male bodies to be exact amd males have higher illness and death rates its logicsl to want to test on males and see how effective drugs are not saying women dont matter but its about the overall picture of treatment. Males have a more delicate biology that requires more treatment overall and thus are better for knowing whether a drug works or not

  • @trishayamada807

    @trishayamada807

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ishrendon6435 LoL

  • @trishayamada807

    @trishayamada807

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marielubin8830 not at all true.

  • @ishrendon6435

    @ishrendon6435

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@trishayamada807 that is true ....

  • @cartoonhead9222
    @cartoonhead92222 жыл бұрын

    Jesus, this guy would be executed if he gave this talk today.

  • @shoutenry
    @shoutenry11 жыл бұрын

    That is absolutely horrifying.

  • @kimberlybransford3590
    @kimberlybransford35902 жыл бұрын

    Wow! How timely is this video?

  • @smalltownboi86
    @smalltownboi862 жыл бұрын

    Hello covid vaccines... lol

  • @ShindyK2
    @ShindyK211 жыл бұрын

    Worth favoriting since I'm a PharmD student :D

  • @xDomglmao
    @xDomglmao5 жыл бұрын

    Anybody any idea, how to minimize the effect of publication bias until the problem gets fixed? Even reading all published online papers wouldn't help since the neg. results aren't available...

  • @nightterror4214
    @nightterror42142 жыл бұрын

    any updates to this issue?

  • @megg7558
    @megg75584 жыл бұрын

    They know nothing more than they learned about it. The patient can die from prescriptions and they don't care.

  • @safardebon9720
    @safardebon97207 жыл бұрын

    Goldacre makes very valid points - which are to do with the consequences of conflicts of interests, and the negative consequences for patients. However, there is a much more serious problem at the moment. The bulk of the medical profession (along with the public) still believes that you can treat chronic diseases by changing the bio chemisrty of the body. I think drugs & surgery have an amazing influence on positive outcomes in many accute situations, but not in chronic illnesses that are a result of poor nutrition and lifestyle - the bulk of sickness today is due to this. Eating a varied whole plant based diet, low fat, low salt - along with strength/cardio/flexibility training and meditation along with a healthy social life will eliminate much of the chronic disease that we have today. Trying to fix these diseases by changing the bio chemistry using drugs is quackery at its worst.

  • @schlondpoofa

    @schlondpoofa

    5 жыл бұрын

    yeah man let's start managing diseases like diabetes and lupus solely with meditation and cardio!!! that won't kill people at all

  • @mo-om

    @mo-om

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@schlondpoofa I suppose your chemicals cure diabetes then

  • @amoriicovers

    @amoriicovers

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@mo-om they can't cure type 1 diabetes but they can help manage the chronic condition. They can aid in the weight loss and reversal of insulin sensitivity that can cure type 2 diabetes if caught early enough.

  • @amoriicovers

    @amoriicovers

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@mo-om without these "chemicals" (read: naturally derived and then refined substances that act on pre-existing structures within the body in the same way as endogenous structures) many people would die or have their quality of life drastically reduced. Many people DO die because of lack of access to medical care. Please learn about how medicines work before coming for them lmao

  • @mo-om

    @mo-om

    5 жыл бұрын

    ​@@amoriicovers I am all for what works be it herb or "chemicals". There is no point mocking people (as was done by the previous commenter) because they prefer certain types of medications. People have lived for thousands of years and used those treatments that have now been relegated to "alternative forms of medication". There is a wealth of knowledge on this type of medication and people are probably better off looking into these again rather relying on profit-hungry corporates who lie, cheat and conceal in order to get a drug to market without worrying about how people are affected. I know this would be termed as "anecdotal" but I haven't been to hospital or taken any drug for the last five years. All I had to do was be more conscious of what went into my body and tried to stay fit. The few times I got a little sick, I just used some local herbs and I got well. What I have seen people do is just bash alternative medicine and call people names. That is totally unnecessary. So much for your "evidence based medicine". We can see right through the bad science now. I have no problem taking any medicine as long as it would work. Am just not sure I can trust corporates with my health or the health of my family. Not after watching this anyway.

  • @reesebrits9381
    @reesebrits93814 жыл бұрын

    Why do we live in a world where so many people have become greedy and have their own interests at heart; instead of caring for the effects this has on communities worldwide? Pharmaceutical companies should be wanting to help people and make a difference in people's lives, not exploiting them. I chose to study Medicine as I truly care for and want to help others live a better life.

  • @ItsJustAPlug
    @ItsJustAPlug11 жыл бұрын

    anyone know the name of the journal that refused to publish the replicated studies. and also the name of the original research paper and who it was conducted by? thanks

  • @Xaviergonzalez85
    @Xaviergonzalez852 жыл бұрын

    Someone plz show this to Bill Gates!!!

  • @latanezimbardo7129
    @latanezimbardo71295 жыл бұрын

    when ted used to be good

  • @Wolfwolveswolf
    @Wolfwolveswolf11 жыл бұрын

    It is good to see wisdom, where abounding knowledge is at work.

  • @glorialaugalis5908
    @glorialaugalis59084 жыл бұрын

    I know this video is old now, but has anything been done to fix this problem since then, or is it still out of control?

  • 3 жыл бұрын

    now you understand all those positive results in studies on the efficacy of face masks, social distancing and lockdowns? 😅

  • @TheJansonn
    @TheJansonn2 жыл бұрын

    this explains the covid vaccines

  • @modigbeowulf5482
    @modigbeowulf54825 жыл бұрын

    David Noakes is in Wandsworth prison. He had 3 clinics treating cancer patients with GcMAF.

  • @monavocat
    @monavocat5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

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