What Do Therapists Need To Do About Medicare? Opting in or out for 2024: An interview with Joy Alafi

Curt and Katie interview Joy Alafia, Executive Director of California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists, on the journey for MFTs and Counselors to become eligible to be Medicare providers. We look at the high-level tasks that every therapist needs to take. We also talk about the decision-making process for whether you should opt in or opt out, providing some basic guidance and resources on the steps you need to take now.
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An Interview with Joy Alafia, CAE, Executive Director of CAMFT
Joy Alafia is the Executive Director of the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists. She brings over 17 years of association experience, specializing in transformational leadership, organizational management, and partnership development. Since joining CAMFT, the organization has developed a two-year strategic plan, published the organization’s first Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) statement, and passed historic legislation; including California’s Deadname Act which protects MFTs’ privacy and safety by ensuring the DCA no longer recognizes their deadname and the Mental Health Access Improvement Act that identifies MFTs as eligible Medicare providers.
Her employment history includes serving as the CEO of the Western Propane Gas Association (WPGA), where she led the organization to a new chapter focused on renewable propane as part of California’s clean energy economy. Joy previously served as an advisory member for the California Energy Commission’s Clean Transportation Program which supports the accelerated development and deployment of advanced transportation fuels and technologies. Prior to that, Joy served as a Business Director for the California Association of REALTORS®, an organization with over 185,000 members where she focused on developing innovative and enterprising business partnerships.
Joy presently serves on the Board for the United Way Bay Area and previously held a Board position for the non-profit Building Diversity in Science. She has a BS in Physics from Spelman College and an MBA from Pepperdine University. Joy is a Certified Association Executive.
In this podcast episode, we talk about MFTs and Counselors becoming Medicare Providers
Curt and Katie have spent hours in advocacy efforts for MFTs and Counselors to become Medicare providers through their past involvement in the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists (CAMFT). And it’s finally gone through! We asked Joy Alafia to come join us to discuss this journey as well as what therapists need to do now that we’re eligible to be Medicare providers.
Find out more about what was talked about in the show notes (link above).
Who we are:
Curt Widhalm, LMFT
www.curtwidhalm.com
Katie Vernoy, LMFT
www.katievernoy.com
A Quick Note:
Our opinions are our own. We are only speaking for ourselves - except when we speak for each other, or over each other. We’re working on it.
Our guests are also only speaking for themselves and have their own opinions. We aren’t trying to take their voice, and no one speaks for us either. Mostly because they don’t want to, but hey.

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