Need to see 2 engines with the same build except the pistons, instrumented and tested on a calibrated engine test rig on the same fuel at the same time. - Specific fuel consumption (g per kwh) - instrumented pistons for temp - exhaust gas analysis.

@hotrodray6802

2 ай бұрын

No two engines are identical. We've built quite a few identical spec engines and optimized them on the engine Dyno and found 2% difference on 500 HP. Honing finish and technique, ring types, etc. many factors involved.

@e-curb

2 ай бұрын

And don't tell the guy who's doing all the tests which one has the magic pistons.

@JackS425

2 ай бұрын

@@hotrodray6802when they are claiming 20% improvements it should be easy to see even if the engines are out a few % from each other.

@resignator

2 ай бұрын

@@hotrodray6802 If they alternate/swap the pistons on the two engines over multiple tests then it should be rather easy to calculate the error.

@slopoke22

2 ай бұрын

You wouldn't notice a difference between the 2! Like engine additives, this a buy me trick. Too many factors involved as well

I can't wait for Gale Banks to get a hold of a set!

@davidsawyer1599

2 ай бұрын

My thought exactly.

@JustinEdinborough

2 ай бұрын

Same. You know he will put every single instrument in his shop to use to check the claims. With proof of yes or ya no.

@seandurgin

2 ай бұрын

You don’t think Gale will dismiss it because it wasn’t his idea?

@JustinEdinborough

2 ай бұрын

​@seandurgin I truly believe that if it does what is says. He will back it and tell us the truth. Just like he does when he test everyone's intake. Shows the data that they are all bull. Shows the data why they are bull..

@MikeSmith-nu9wt

2 ай бұрын

​@@seandurginnope , he has backed products that werent his

The fact that they are willing to go to a shop with the equipment in it shows they aren't trying to hide. Would definitely be interesting to see a unbiased review from this shop

Would like to see lifespan results. Teardown analysis at 60k, 100k, 150k, etc

@bryanpadilla2879

2 ай бұрын

Exactly it does have more surface area though id think longerrrr no??? This is a good one

@user-er8kb9th3p

2 ай бұрын

Well, if it’s a coating, then you could have stress and cracks and all sorts of things happening over time. The tear down I was thinking of includes not only the piston tops, but the rings the cylinder walls, the various bearing surfaces, valves, everything. It’s pretty safe to say, if one change in an engine, It will cause changes elsewhere

@DavidMiOo

Ай бұрын

Good point, ceramic is tough as nails when it comes to heat but can also be brittle on impact. My thought is, what if I creep into detonation territory and get a very slight ping, does that piston top shatter? What about full on detonation? I've had a motor detonate and shatter the front and rear-center plugs in a v6 Gas engine and the engine still runs and drives fine but isn't as smooth at idle. The detonation wasn't that bad internally, no boost, lower RPM, when it happened. Was something with the coil pack or plug dropping out at around 90% throttle pulling from a dead stop. The takeaway is the fact it shattered the plugs and even cracked others around the center plugs, the ceramic on the plugs.

@Bill-sp8kb

Ай бұрын

You'll do that, yourself.😅

@jessicalawson1417

17 күн бұрын

They have test results of research they did over time in cat engimges

This has quickly become one of my favorite KZread channels. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Please keep the videos coming as ive watched every single one on your channel so far, and it's boring on this app until I see "Daves Auto Center uploaded a new video to their channel". Haha keep em coming !!! God Bless.

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

Thanks, will do!

@JustinEdinborough

2 ай бұрын

Completely agree. Keep them coming.

@BassBucksOutdoors

2 ай бұрын

Same!! I hope they never change!

@tylerwilliams3868

2 ай бұрын

couldnt agree more! found them about a month ago and is now my favorite youtube channel!

@ryanm513

2 ай бұрын

SAME! I’m not even a mechanic

Can’t wait for you to do a video on a build or rebuild using that style of piston. Very interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing Dave. Take care and stay safe.

@deshaun5419

2 ай бұрын

Me too

@jay_tarantula899

2 ай бұрын

That's what I thought this video was gonna be. Not just him being paid to advertise for that company with a vid😅

@IDv8I

Ай бұрын

First thing I thought when I heard the truck pull in.

As a mechanic here, this sounds like Magical Pistons. I'd love to see some Dave tests on these Pistons!

@garybulwinkle82

2 ай бұрын

Maybe the dimples create some kind of cushion in the combustion process or it could reduce the friction between the piston and moving flame front. Either way the same technology improved golf ball travel through the air!

@donniebaker5984

2 ай бұрын

@@garybulwinkle82 nope it's Voodoo Actually the ceramic coating You can do yourself And someone said putting dimples in the top of pistons has been around a while. And total seal rings have been going on three decade ; maybe longer...there is one more thing drill and tap oil Jets to spay up inside tops of the pistons to cool them Even more

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

You are very correct to want to see some research and testing. This link from speed of air may be helpful. Thanks for watching! www.speedofair.com/r-d

@barfy4751

2 ай бұрын

I think squirter were factory install on early 911`s ​@@donniebaker5984

@lukez1729

2 ай бұрын

I agree 100%i dont believe it until I see it

"Without testing and science it's only speculation" -Dave ....best quote ever!....

@TurboGTO288

Ай бұрын

Do you not pay attention?? It's been tested and researched. Science is just a word you use to sound smart because you lack attention span ...

@davkilldav211

Ай бұрын

@@TurboGTO288 I give too much attention, which is why I was quoting the video. I don't have the time or interest to back and forth with a troll. Don't you have better things to do with your life?

Automotive engineer here, Absolutely Amazing! There is so much potential in the combustion engines.

@david600R

2 ай бұрын

Stop with the shit designs on compact vehicles thank you

@MikeSmith-nu9wt

2 ай бұрын

​@@david600Ri can't believe anybody would admit that shit amoungst all these mechanics on here , liable to get lynched 😂😂😂

@Lexidezi225

2 ай бұрын

@@MikeSmith-nu9wt😂. Don’t blame the engineers man they can engineer a near perfect vehicle if they wanted. But when an engineer submits his designs or ideas they get the money people up top telling them to make it cheaper. It’s not the engineers that’s just silly to think that. They could make a vehicle last 40 years no problem but it would cost us $200,000 for a little car

@rykdheiner

2 ай бұрын

Agreed, if only you could figure out how to capture all that wasted heat energy, and figure out the mechanical forces wanting to rip the ice engine to pieces. If only there was a technology that could get >90% efficiency

@wezerd

2 ай бұрын

​@@Lexidezi225it would probably cost the same, but they would have to spend more for manufacturing and couldn't mark the price up as much anymore. Car manufacturing costs are a fraction of their sale price.

Dont forget this guy has a product to sell, lets see long duration in production testing

@Sam-go3mb

Ай бұрын

Better in every single way with no drawbacks and yet no manufacturers employ it? 🤔

As a physicist, 13 to 16 mpg seems unreasonable. In the end, efficiency is physics and the only way you increase efficiency of the diesel cycle is by increasing compression ratio, increasing temp, and decreasing the temp sink. Their pistons might provide a higher compression ratio. The ceramic top might reduce heat loss (higher temp), and the heat sink (atmosphere) is going to be the same. I’m not sure you can get 20% more efficiency from these changes, and then add in environmental emissions considerations, and that makes me more skeptical. Maybe, but this definitely falls into the “show me” category.

@hoonaticbloggs5402

2 ай бұрын

I agree with you. I’m not a physicist, but I do understand with diesels the leaner you run, the hotter the burn and more NOx is produced.

@adambauman8044

2 ай бұрын

Yeah and of the new piston is increasing compression that's definitely not some technological breakthrough.

@elijahcavin2408

2 ай бұрын

​@@hoonaticbloggs5402You mean gas motors

@sungear

2 ай бұрын

I happen to think this is total snake oil. Embarrassingly so, much like engines that run on water.

@luke8210

2 ай бұрын

​@sungear Agree on the snake oil....though engines run on water vapor, via steam isn't.

In my 19 years of automotive powertrain testing experience, this appears to be a good product idea but is giving me a little too good to be true vibe and another "re-inventing of the wheel". I'm not opposed to seeing more on this but I find it hard to believe timing events haven't been changed as well as the amount of injections per cycle since both of these things have a huge effect on diesels combustion noise. As good as it is being sold, it makes you wonder why this concept hasnt been being utilized by cummins.

@stephenbrown3760

2 ай бұрын

20% fuel mileage is huge, hard to believe an OEM hasn’t done this

@Longbowgun

2 ай бұрын

@@stephenbrown3760 According to the numbers this guy is citing: just shy of a 26% mileage increase... 25.95%.

@PsRohrbaugh

2 ай бұрын

This is just like the magic carburetor in the 70s that would get you 50 mpg on a big block that the oil companies kept hidden....

@alfredocarpaneto5976

2 ай бұрын

Buy a set and build a motor. Post the results as you put miles on it, make a good series.

@alfredocarpaneto5976

2 ай бұрын

@@stephenbrown3760 I thought the same then realized that manufacturers want to spend as little possible to make a product. I know GM changed piston design on the 3.0 Duramax and the newest version is producing a lot more torque and HP.

I really Hope Gale Banks gets a hold of these guys and makes a video on this tech

@hank1556

2 ай бұрын

Yeah me too. So he can expose this absurd snake oil BS

@genechoate5020

2 ай бұрын

I think Gale already has these pistons in the duramax engines he builds for the JLTV military vehicles!

@jblob5764

2 ай бұрын

​@@genechoate5020 wouldn't doubt it. He has done so much engineering and lab work over the decades he'd be the one to talk to

@jksjrgfpsjgr

2 ай бұрын

@@genechoate5020 we want data!

@johnnytiboni6745

2 ай бұрын

Yes UEM GALE BANKS MAN THEY WOULD MAKE SOME KILLER STUFF

It's amazing that a piston and rings can make that much of a difference.

@100pyatt

2 ай бұрын

Evolution of IC motors using advantages of physics ... Modern computer modeling is taking IC motors to new levels.

@madog1

2 ай бұрын

@@100pyatt I was thinking computer modeling was involved, thanks.

@OtisFlint

2 ай бұрын

It's BS.

@DonziGT230

2 ай бұрын

@@OtisFlintWhat evidence do you have to support that?

@jblob5764

2 ай бұрын

​@@OtisFlinthave you tested it? Wheres your lab id love to come check it out

I got out of car and truck work 24 years ago as a 4X ASE master with L1 and L2, and this is unimaginable stuff. Kudos to the development team.

@stephenpoe2037

2 ай бұрын

I am there with you ! And interesting stuff ! I am also Certified Level II Fire Technician with the california Fire Chiefs !

@codylapoint

2 ай бұрын

I'm a level 8 crank polisher/ distributor, and let me tell you! The efficiency gains I've seen in the forward and return strokes using this technology are astounding! I can deliver the heaviest of loads now in a single trip. Also by passing the savings onto my loyal customer base means that I'm making fewer tedious trips over to your mom's place!

This is easily one of my favorite videos from you guys! I would LOVE to see more in depth content from the Monster Engine side of things with engine break down and builds!! Either way, great content guys and happy to watch the growth! If you guys end up needing a well trained CNC Machinist, i would be willing to travel to work for a great company like you guys!

Amazing how much innovation that still continues to happen on combustion engines.

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

Great point!

@oilman1758

2 ай бұрын

@@DavesAutoCenterCenterville Great idea but what will happen when government wants all EV's by 2035 or so. All this great technology will be thrown away. I hope I'm totally wrong. I would not want that at all. Nothing beats the sound of a V8. I own a 67 Firebird with a 455CID, I told my brother if this engine ever needs rebuilding it's coming to you. Great Job to you and your team. It's obvious not only you know your trade but your also passing it down to the next generation of mechanics and builders.

@3ZN357

2 ай бұрын

nobody's taking your gas engines. lose the tin foil buddy@@oilman1758

@cavalieroutdoors6036

2 ай бұрын

​@oilman1758 the government is going to find out that you can't legislate a market change. That's what's gonna happen. Electric vehicles suck. And they still will in 10 years.

@jblob5764

2 ай бұрын

​@@oilman1758that's wildly unrealistic and even they know it. The power grid can't even handle existing loads as it is. Charging ONE ev once takes as much power as the power consumption of several households. So youre talking multiplying the national power supply several times over to make that realistic

This channel is the definition of KZread ,every single video he posts are things that I really want to watch , what a time to be alive.

This channel just continues to grow to be better and better. I just love and seriously appreciate the effort you guys put in, in achieving absolute excellance in automotive engineering. The way that you guys do not close your eyes and minds to new ways of doing stuff, is testament to your commitment in constantly moving the whole internal combustion industry forwards. Im just off to watch this video again, it really is solid gold stuff. Many thanks David in the UK.

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

You're the best!

Dave i like your stuff so far. You seem like a straight up, honest guy who has spent years perfecting his craft or trade. Can't wait to see more on this. Increasing power, economy, longevity while lowering maintenance seems like the golden ticket.

Noise... flat surfaces reflect waves. Curves too, depending on frequency. Break that geometry, and resonance is attenuated.

Racing MX I got some insight on squish shaping of heads and scalloping of intake ports. This is next level and very cool!

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

Very cool!

I love this Channel! Learning a lot from Dave and the crew... keep up the great work.

My 1974 Merc Cougar XR7, when i ported & polished the Elderbrock Intake i put in golfball dimples inside just by hand, 1992 when i had that 400M (0.020 over) out. Had lots of fun in it over the decades. Was stationed at Edwards AFB working on B2 at the time :) all of them were just under the carb & inside the runners where a die grinder w 1/8" carbide cutter fit too. No idea or dyno testing but managed 17mpg for a long time.😊

The ceramic coating and porous surface makes sense, it definitely seems as though it would cut down noise levels in the engine.

@peterfitzpatrick7032

2 ай бұрын

It'll make the green with one shot too !! 🙄😂

Correctly sized rod bearings make a diesel quieter, too.

This is pretty incredible. I noticed how much smoother my 6.7 was when I started using scheaffer oil. Add those pistons holy crap

Thanks for sharing Dave. I have been hearing about this technology for a few years now but never had a chance to do any testing myself, so keep us updated on any installations or testing you do.👍👍👍

We tested this on a wet flow bench. So we took 318 heads one we put HUGE dimples into combustion chamber, one we roughed up 40grit, and one we polished. The wet flow showed the dimples and rough surface worked well to stop pooling of fuel. With polished HORRID combustion chamber of 318s it puddled on head didnt get complete "burn" or atomization AT ALL. So there is some truth to this in keeping fuel in air. Direct inj fixes that obviously. But im interested in what benefits on head of piston would be. Our dimples where much more close to each other. But it did work. Wow the noise is way reduced

@bamascubaman

2 ай бұрын

Turbulence is a fantastic thing once you combine fuel & air.

@kenkahn138

2 ай бұрын

Roush racing was putting dimples into intake manifold runners on Ford NASCAR motors back in the 80s similar results increased power lower fuel use

@TheSinfulO1

2 ай бұрын

The main difference in your testing and their product is the ceramic coating on top of the piston..

@79huddy

2 ай бұрын

​@@kenkahn138 it also made the runners easy to slime up with gelled mothballs for a real good qualifying lap🤫

@what9418

2 ай бұрын

They placed the dimples where the injection jets spray. So there probably don't have to be many of them.

Hello from England, 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 I came across your channel by chance and really enjoy listening to your content. Look forward to seeing you on Discovery Channel.

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

Dave thank you so much for teaching me about the new pistons your channel is great keep these types of videos coming

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

You bet!

I dunno squat about motors but this channel is Fantastic!! Great job Dave & Team!! Wonderful and informative videos!!

Idk what to say.....I'm sure Dave has a set of the trick pistons coming and when he tells us it's for real....well then I'm sold..👍🇺🇲

Dave's thumbnail face is the face my friend made when I told them what I'd do for a Klondike Bar.

AMEN DAVE & CREW! :) I love nothing more than turning on youtube and checking out your videos and learning from them. My 2 kids 7 & 5 say can we watch The Motor man on youtube. Honestly guys love what you are doing not only in your shop but online also. Been watching for a few weeks now and been meaning to say thank you. Not only is it about motors but also relevant in life also. All the way from Gold Coast Australia. Luke.

Hey Dave, you and your team are the best! God bless you guys, cant wait to see the show! Thanks dude!

Dave I used to be a mechanic and I was surprised by this piston! Pretty cool if it really works? BTW I really like your channel. You're not afraid to comment on a bad design and as a mechanic I've seen lots of bad designs, so I subscribed to your channel. Keep up the good work.

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

Cool, thanks

You had me at mining application and WW2 aircraft engines.

@MarkSDCA

2 ай бұрын

High octane fuel won WWII.

@jblob5764

2 ай бұрын

​@@MarkSDCA its definitely on the list, along with proximity fuses for AA rounds, forced induction, shaped charge warheads. So many things that came to be as a result of ww2. As horrible as the time was it slingshotted the world ahead by decades in tech.

I can't wait to see both of you collab. Good stuff. Keep on doing what you do.

Dave, have you verified the results on your own?

Thanks for the videos! Bill and Ernie Elliott were using The golf ball dimpling on pistons and combustion chambers. Since the 1980’s in Nascar. Until someone let the cat out of the bag, and then Nascar changed the rules to a lower mandated compression.

On a 2 stroke dirtbike engine, the squish factor comes into play. If the compression is uneven, you build hot spots. I might dimple my next piston just to see.. Pretty cool idea.

@elvispresley3340

2 ай бұрын

Just a 'side thought' - the dimples would tend to lower the compression ratio and increase the total chamber volume by the amount of material removed from the dimpling process. Will that necessitate a skim of the head to restore the compression ratio? HA - or am I completely wrong? CHEERS from AUSTRALIA.

@theericbenson1692

2 ай бұрын

@elvispresley3340 Yes I already have a milled head and it seems to build more heat..

Looking forward to it! 2 of my favorite Automotive Channels for sure!

Since they build motors it’s simple. Dyno test a motor with standard pistons and then change them out and test again. Do a ,”calab”.

Very interesting, I too need more independent proof. But I'd sure try it if I'm doing a rebuild

I love this stuff Dave. Those pistons are some real "Rearden Metal" style development. I'm sure you'll get some blow-back like "why try customers with an untested product?" Well, what can you say: "I trust my own judgement".

You put out some awesome content , always interesting and informative. Appreciate you guys

I remember back in the 2000s on carbed dirt bikes (cuz the 1 cylinder setup) the dimped intake ports was a thing. Even dimped intake valve. It helped the fuel atomization in the air and gives less fuel condensation on the walls. I think it is something similar can happen, increased atomization in the cylinder, better burn. Oh this atomization was just mentioned at 13:50 hehe. It would be nice to see how the hex shaped area in the piston affect the burning, and the flame shape. Looks like a lots of thought went in the piston. Great work, hats off! Can't wait for the upcoming videos with this piston.

Been out of the business almost a decade yet strangely fascinated by your channel. Can’t wait for and hope you get your tv show.

@e-curb

2 ай бұрын

He's already got a TV show, right here on YT!

What happens when those dimples get filled with carbon build-up?

@fidelcatsro6948

25 күн бұрын

🤔

I love this channel. Thanks Dave!

Thank you guys for sharing your wisdom

do they also sell timeshares?

Love this channel. Keep up the work boys

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

Thanks! Will do!

Channels that have honest content like this make the world a better place.

I don’t work on cars anymore but damn I love this channel.Dave you have to be the most honest boss ever.Thanks for letting us ride along with you and the guys.

It's so intersting, i wasn't know this technology. Thanks to share with us Dave👍🙏

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

Fascinating! I'd love to see a production diesel sedan with these pistons someday

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

That would be cool!

Wow such a a great job y'all are doing guys. Really proud to say I was one of your first time subscribers.

Every episode is a much watch for me . Great facilities and common sense .

Highly persuasive. We need you to test a car for noise, temperatures around the engine exhaust emissions chassis dynamometer for power and torque objective road test for acceleration and fuel consumption . Then you pull the engine change the pistons and repeat all the tests. If you can show positive improvements we will believe you - then they will become standard fit for rebuilding everything everywhere .The theory does sound credible - no doubt they will be much more expensive at least initially - but if this is true it is staggering .

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

Appreciate your comment. You have some very good questions and thoughts. This link from Speed of air may be helpful. www.speedofair.com/r-d

@richardhintonracing

2 ай бұрын

@@DavesAutoCenterCenterville Thank you, much look forward to seeing developments on this issue . Greatly enjoy the videos by the way here 40 miles north of London

@fidelcatsro6948

25 күн бұрын

lets do this test on a single or twin cylinder motorcycle!

But what about the longevity of the pistons? Do they wear out after 20000 miles?

Exciting piston technology premiered by Dave’s Auto Center. Thanks Dave!

Looks and sounds like a winner Dave, I have worked diesel service and repair for all of my life but never knew this type of piston was available. I remember when Slick 50 came out and it was awesome to quiet down a Diesel engine. Wynn oil for transmissions, Minneapolis Moline G1000 had this howling noise that would make you deaf. Keep up the great work.

Really cool stuff. Keep up the good work.

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

Thanks, will do!

Two videos in one day. This, this is good.

You do a good job getting information out one of the good videos to keep it up thank you

This channel is great because Dave’s the man. Excellent content

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

Test those pistons plz.

I've seen some interesting results from dimpling piston tops and head ports, both intake & exhaust. Dimpling ports increases the volume but has the benefit of keeping velocity about the same, which is important. At least that's the theory. For pistons there are probably benefits in cylinder filling. The ceramic coating has advantages on its own too. I wonder if they've independently done tests of each application to see what differences there are. They probably have.

I'm tuned in. Thanks for putting out something really interesting Daves Auto Center.

Very exciting. Looking forward to seeing one of your engines with speed of air pistons and results after

Gale Banks Gale Banks Gale Banks

Dave gentry and son trucking out of Tennessee is already put these pistons in a 12 seven Detroit and they have worked out very well for him

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback Lee👍

Dave has the best information n trades ever. I greatly appreciate him sharing his knowledge

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

Glad you think so!

This is the content I like. Please make more

THIS is a Direct result of the great Show of MYTHBUSTERS where they tested wind resistance of vehicles that were dented all over the vehicles with golf ball sized dents and they proved it provided greater fuel mileage.

@JoshHighley

2 ай бұрын

air flow over a dimpled surface is a lot different scenario than the air flow a piston encounters

@Strickland325

2 ай бұрын

They used this tech in ww2.

@edgarbeat2851

2 ай бұрын

​@@Strickland325 bouncing bombs

you MUST meet Lake…. I worked with his dad and Lake Jr is of the same character and has incredible KNOWLEDGE! Lake Speed is the cat`s meow!

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

You bet ! 👍

American ingenuity at its finest!

Awesome presentation!!! I have never heard of the dimpled pistons, until now... Very interesting.... The Total seal rings , I have heard about for a long time... And they are really nice...

If this piston is so great and giving a 25% increase in fuel efficiency, much longer oil change intervals and decreased exhaust temperatures, WHY are the manufacturers not using it? WHY is this being sold as an aftermarket engine rebuild and not for the OEMs to just make them with these pistons in the first place? Imagine the look on engine manufacturers executives' faces when you tell this simple part means 25% increase in fuel efficiency and longer oil change intervals and better emissions!!! They would be breaking down the doors of this company ordering millions of them.

@jessicalawson1417

17 күн бұрын

Not really, they want to sell you more cars and more gas

This is the most impressive video I’ve seen on KZread I always seem to learn something new and I’ve been a master tech for almost 20 years

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

Grateful to have your experience on our channel! Thanks for posting

Excellent knowledge brother

Do y'all know Mark "the beard of knowledge" from Pawn Stars? I never would have guessed he had a brother who was a gearhead!

Sorry Dave, if these pistons really are that much of an improvement in power and emissions -- then why hasn't every OEM started putting these in production engines? I'd like to see Gale Banks test these pistons on his dyno and measurement setup and your own real world engine builds. Make this sceptic a believer.

@maxscriptguru

2 ай бұрын

Perhaps auto manufacturers do not want to pay a patent royalty?

@sstreet9436

2 ай бұрын

@@maxscriptguru non-sense. If the pistons really do save emissions and boost efficiency; the cost will be absorbed in the production and the OEMs benefit immediately; either by marketing more power and better economy, or paying less in CAFE fees. And if you don't think the emission controls don't cost the consumer more money. Not too long ago an auto with CA State emissions was at least $1400 more than the other 49 states (though several have adopted some of CA emission regulations, but that is a whole other can of worms). I look forward to real world testing and science data - not some single company claiming a patent with "their" own "testing" data. My Statistics professor (way back in the 80's) taught us a valuable lesson. Statistics with numbers, there are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

@charleecee6201

2 ай бұрын

Other than the quieter dmax. There is no proof yet. Seems too good to be true.

@joshtoomey7810

2 ай бұрын

People build things w death dates these days. Ford, Ram, chevy etc don't want their motors to last longer then we are not buying new trucks or cars.

@phiksit

2 ай бұрын

Oil companies (and even car companies) could give a f about efficiency or reducing maintenance intervals or even a product that works well. It's only when new government regulations force them to make improvements that they are forced to comply. Oil companies have been know to buy up patents just to suppress discoveries that could affect their profit margins, meanwhile getting huge government subsidies, basically screwing us coming and going. Perhaps this is rediscovered technology that was suppressed by oil companies.... just a thought.

I race jr dragsters in late 90s early 2000s. One of my engines intake port was dimpled like a golf ball, it was a very ahead of its time and fast engine.

I love this. I’m sure there are even more undiscovered efficient coatings out there for pistons, and even others metal-on-metal parts of an engine.

If it what they said it is more power more mpg and less emissions it be a game changer for the trucking industry

Speed of Air technology is something new, I’ve asked if they would make piston’s for my old 7.3 but they have no plans, they make the pistons for 6.0 liter Cummins and Cat.

@jonsaircond8520

2 ай бұрын

Yea that would be fantastic but unfortunately not as many of us with the ol 7.3 anymore to perk these guys up. Just imagine how weird it would sound with the injectors still hammering.

@bondobilly9369

2 ай бұрын

The cummins 5.9/6.7, cat are the bigger demand for now, so they'll focus their energy there and as demand and money comes in, expand to older engines

Badass . I read about those pistons while back and been waiting for the test results of them

Dave i love your videos! Im a traveling construction superintendent from maine. Love working on things and learning. My son is actually moving to utah, his wife is going to be attending BYU in provo. Keep up the great content!

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

That is awesome!

I definitely wanna see y’all dyno a engine with those pistons

So you put these pistons in a 6.7 Duramax, add in some Bank's upgrades and AMS oil ... I want to see that build plus all of Dave's upgrades.

@4673962

2 ай бұрын

That would be awesome!!!!!!! Love to see that.

@cs-gj3yf

2 ай бұрын

no id like to see a better company that actually has decent products instead of banks, like fleece performance or similar

Wild Love this stuff you know I just got back from monster and you pricing is fantastic “A bit more “ and get these kind of benefits is not even a question These are a no brainer 🤙🤙🤙🤘🤘

Love Dave’s shop more and more.

You know what could really use those pistons is a 7.3 or a 6.0 The dimple doesn’t surprise me on sound, VW reduced their diesel noise by adding a big dimple in the cylinder head

I'd love to see 2-3 different engines, 100% stock, run on a dyno for several hours each. Record power, emissions, take oil samples, etc. then do nothing but change the pistons and rings then repeat the same tests, collecting the same data.

Those are awesome, crazy numbers all from a piston. Wow.😊

I am greatly appreciative of the sharing of information that this channel provides. "Teach a man to fish". I look up to y'all immensely and happily anticipate new nuggets of wisdom.

@DavesAutoCenterCenterville

2 ай бұрын

I appreciate that

@edwatts9890

2 ай бұрын

​@@DavesAutoCenterCenterville: "If you give a man a fish, he will eat for a day. If you teach a man to fish, he will ditch Sacrament Meeting and sit in a boat and drink beer all day!"

I remember my friend building small block chevy himself and he ported the heads and pistons with a golf ⛳️ ball dimple. That technology has been around for years.

@proudpennsylvaniaman7996

2 ай бұрын

He didn't have the gap less rings though. I had seen the intake ported like golf ball before