1. Indifference 2. Writing the sins of Pharisees - Jerome vs Pelagius 3. Fulfillment of Prophecy - St. Augustine and St. Ambrose

Glory to Jesus christ our Lord God

@traditionalcatholic4275

4 жыл бұрын

Thalia Rose- Amen.

@junelledembroski9183

3 жыл бұрын

Amen

I love St Augustine's interpretation and the additional explanation of two witnesses. Great job by Dr Pitre!

@a.t.6322

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. It's by far the best explanation I have heard so far. Their names being written in the dirt signifies their names will be erased as nothing written in the dirt will last.

Yes, indeed! It’s a beautiful story of divine mercy. Please loving Jesus, remember to show me mercy even though I don’t deserve it. Amen.

As a uneducated human and a simpleton, in humility I share a thought of Wisdom all Glory to God. May lips right now with my tongue be sealed in Jesus precious Blood. I too while at 3:40 am was reading and looking for a piece about the Blessed Mother, when by Devine guidance landed on this same piece of scripture. I was totally drawn about His Finger and I asked in Prayer for God to share why His Finger? Then Heavens dew fell upon me and I was learning, He is God Presence and He knows the Law for He Wrote the Law and He Created them from Dirt and Dirt shall they return. I wept with Praise and Glory to the Father. I then asked my Spiritual director and he said this was Valid. God can teach the humble as well. All Glory to the King

@temporaryaccount5307

2 жыл бұрын

Why are u looking thru the Bible for the “blessed mother?” The Bible is about Jesus, not Mary.

@keithquinton

2 ай бұрын

Blessings ❤

What a beautiful explanation. Thank you Dr. Pitre.

Dr. Brand Pitre I'm really amazed by the Divine Wisdom provided to you. The depths you take us is really fascinating and increasing love towards God.

Dr Brant pitre always gives reasonable explanations so easily understandable. Thank u god bless u

Thanks, Dr. Pitre. Great summary! Appreciate the historical context.

I like Dr. Pitre's explanation. It is very clear and he also presents various possible explanations.

Wow, this is a superb explanation! Thank you Dr.

Dr. Pitre, Your videos are a treasure. You are a gifted teacher, and we are very blessed you share your gift with us. Can you please do a video on the words of Jesus to the Penitent Thief in the Passion of Luke’s Gospel, “This day you shall be with me in Paradise.”

Deep to understand and beautiful to listen too God bless to all , Happy Easter to all as well !!!🙂⬆️✝️🙏👍😇🌷🌻🥀

Loving and forgiving are you, Jesus Christ our Lord, Amen. Thanks Dr. Brant Pitre. God bless you always.

The fact that I have heard this story dozens of times but the fact that the husband is never brought up is truly amazing to me. The husband was supposed to be the witness but the husband was not there. And Jesus knew that if they stoned her without the husband condemning her then whoever threw the 1st stone would be a murderer.

Oh my! God bless dr. Pitre!

Excellent teaching of Grace. That is where God's love and Mercy meet.

Best interpretation Ever. Thanks Dr. Pitre, God bless.

@paulmiller3469

5 жыл бұрын

Usually can't go wrong with St. Augustine (not to mention St. Ambrose). I was a little surprised to hear St. Jerome offered a differing interpretation. I never heard the John 7 (Fountain of living water) part of this before - so I'll add my thanks to Dr. Pitre.

@jirehpriolo7963

5 жыл бұрын

@Delon Duvenage Thanks, Man

@johnbarrett7936

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulmiller3469 Fulton Sheen also went along with St. Jerome's interpretation. People of great intellect and good will can disagree.

What else was written with Gods finger? The commandments. Yeah... we're supposed to keep them still.

@yochannantzur6294

5 жыл бұрын

@@pod1010 No. Moments to write them. It took time to explain em...

@yochannantzur6294

5 жыл бұрын

@@pod1010 It was rewritten, and put in the Ark. We keep the ten commandments, but most hate the 4th one.

@villarrealmarta6103

5 жыл бұрын

John Stone good luck with that

@yochannantzur6294

5 жыл бұрын

@@villarrealmarta6103 no luck needed. Simple obedience is all it takes.

@nick.t1243

4 жыл бұрын

Yochannan Tzur I could be mistaken, but doesn’t it say in the Book of Hebrews that Christ is our rest? So we don’t need to physically keep a Sabbath because Christ is our rest

Very interesting. I love Dr. Pitre's work. He and Dr. Hahn are the absolute best!

He could have been writing "where is the man?", since the torah says that both the man and the woman are to be stoned. They said she was caught in the act, so they must have known who the man was too.

@Teich-lj1cx

5 жыл бұрын

SouthernRebel that’s the only thing he could have wrote!!! Cause they where tempting him

@SAELIOSMUSIC

3 жыл бұрын

they (Pharisees) set her up, and one of them if not the one who asked “what should we do, the law says we should stone her” was participating in the act himself and Jesus knew they were all a part of this but admitting this they are all guilty

The best speculation EVER! I love it! I got my own exhortation for my next Bible study! :)

Amen! JEREMIAH 17: Verses 1 and 13

Wonderful job!!!

I believe in your explanation... I've heard the others but it's the simplicity of Christ that makes me believe you... Ty

Is it possible to make video about revelation mark of the best and end time it would be great .thank you.

I once heard a homily that proposed the possibility that she was on the ground at his feet and by his getting on the ground to write in the dirt, he was positioned to throw himself over her to bodily protect her from the stones, if they did start to cast stones. I thought that was a beautiful thought, at the very least.

@temporaryaccount5307

2 жыл бұрын

That doesn’t sound right considering ppl were stoned to death and He could have very died. I can think of a time when He escaped bc it wasn’t yet His time so it’s doubtful that would’ve happened. Anyways, Jesus didn’t physically throw Himself on anyone, nor would He have to if God wanted to protect her.

@mutualink

Жыл бұрын

This is one of my favorites,in term of martial art,that is the ultimate way of subduing your opponents without using any brutal force:-making use of their own conscience to deflate their own actions,I call it spiritual akido.😊

@marilynmelzian7370

9 ай бұрын

Sounds very modern

@XSimpleTruthX

8 ай бұрын

That's what we call... gnostic. Extra biblical. Romans love to do this. The Bible doesn't need any poetic adjustments.

@hersheyskwertz9315

6 ай бұрын

I believe he knew what would have happened. So I don’t know if I can get behind this claim

Thanks for this beautiful explaining. Praise to The Living God.🙇🙇🙇🙇🙇

A beautiful reminder that we are never alone in our struggles. God's presence surrounds us, giving us the courage to face any situation with confidence and faith. Wishing everyone a blessed day ahead. 🌈🙌

Dr. Pitre is a great resource when talking to Baptist. Baptist can't really argue with Dr. Pitre's explanation and it really frustrates them.

I really like this presentation. I have my own exegesis that is closely related to the one advanced by St. Augustine and St. Ambrose that you cover. * I think that the story is about more than just the woman taken in adultery. In Catholic Bible study I have been told that the Woman at the Well is a type of the Lost Tribes of the Northern Kingdom. The five husbands are five civilizations imported into the Northern Kingdom to destroy the cultural and religious identity of the Northern Tribes, which was successful. The Northern Tribes went into exile and never returned. * The relationship between God and Israel is said to be spousal. In worshiping false idols Israel was committing spiritual adultery, in violation of the Mt. Sinai Covenant. That is why the prophet Hosea married a harlot, to show Israel what they were doing to God. * Only the woman was brought before Christ. Her paramour was not brought along with her. The lack of a paramour can be explained because the false idols that Israel worshiped were not real gods. You can see this clearly in Psalm 115. Christ came to redeem Israel the harlot from all her iniquity. To me the woman taken in adultery is the type of Israel the harlot. In some translations it is said that the elders were the first to leave. When Christ was writing on the ground, I wonder if He wrote some choice verses from Hosea and Jeremiah about Israel’s harlotry with false idols?

@boomct8569

9 ай бұрын

Wow. Mind blown 🤯 Thank you for this!

@elederiruzkin8835

9 ай бұрын

Very interesting indeed. Thank you very much for sharing it. GB.

Thank you for this explanation. I'm incline to believe you Dr Bryant 🍵🙂

AMEN! Praise Almighty GOD

Thank you for your short, one point lesson.

Re: the notion of prophecy and Jeremiah... Who was it exactly, Ambrose or Augustine? Ambrose baptized Augustine, should the credit therefore be attributed to Ambrose?

I've always wondered about this. But I think it was a great human response to having to deal with hypocrites. Think of the scene. The Pharisees come scurrying over to Jesus, eager trip up this pretender. Rather than firing back at them, he deliberately slows down the encounter, making them wait on him. Jesus bends down and starts writing. But they continue to ask him. We can imagine him finally slowly getting up and rubbing the dirt off his hands, and calmly responding, "OK, here's the thing..." Then he bent down and continued writing, while they stood there, gaping at each other, and trying to figure how to respond. How much more effective were his simple words than if he had given them a speech. I really don't know if it matters what he was writing.

Beautiful

Thank you, Sir! Please permit me a question: In the list of members of the Sanhedrin, the names are listed with the oldest member listed first. The accusers left one by one, the oldest first. I wonder if he was simply writing their names, starting with the oldest member. This does not invalidate your explanation of why he wrote.

I am humbled at my being blest to see this video. God’s love is so utterly beautiful and compassionate. I want to be like Him. One day at a time Our Lady is bringing me closer to that goal. Thank you, Lord. ✝️❤️

Enlightening

Love it! Jeff Cavins gives almost an identical explanation. What a teaching from our Lord Jesus!

This red shirt looks good on you Brant. Anyway thanks 🙏 for these very helpful videos. I bless God for the gifts he gave you and continue to pray for your Ministry

Our Lord knew the psychology of mob control so well, How do you calm a lynch mob? this is the best way to do it.

@peterFGoa3798

5 жыл бұрын

@Nathan Wilson these mobs or companion clusters do not act in unison even if they do, it does not last long. Hypnotist often used a technique to fixate a person or persons on certain action to sedate or calm person/persons.In the case of Our Lord here, it had to be perfectly executed and he did that, any wrong word or tone and it was all over.and then again Our Lord could calm the storm, had control over the physical laws. He was God himself, I hope you don't doubt that...

@peterFGoa3798

5 жыл бұрын

@Nathan Wilson i wish you had better comprehension skills, no way did i suggest Our Lord mass hypnotized them. In fact, He was accused by the Pharisee of sorcery and that His powers were from Demons and Our Lord had classic response " If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?" I was very clear He was God Himself , who could calm the storms and control over natural physical laws, so to calm and disperse the lynch mob should not be beyond our Lord.

My interpretation in this situation is that Jesus points his finger (twice) to the ground to remind the people that we are all dust, for we are molded by God from dust, which becomes our flesh, and the pleasures of the flesh brings us death, not only for this woman, but also them who are persecuting her. They too are slaves to the pleasures of the flesh, therefore also will die.

@ricricvinyl2401

5 жыл бұрын

@dom com. writing or pointing, Jesus' finger was touching the ground. One can scribble on the ground with nothing, which then can be interpreted as just pointing the finger to the ground with some motion. Anyway, no one for 2,000 years knows what he was writing about. The writer of the verse may just have presumed Jesus was writing something. but the ground where his finger was writing on (or pointing to) has proximity to the fact that we are made from dust, and dust we return. Jesus said the fruit of the flesh is death, and the crowd stoned the woman to die. So Jesus reminded them that you all will die too because you are from dust like her. Jesus is reminding the crowd that they also have their own desires of the flesh like the desire of this woman, therefore they have no right to judge. or condemn this woman.

@ricricvinyl2401

5 жыл бұрын

@dom com. Read again my two posts. Where can you find a word that says John is wrong and I am correcting him. My post begins with "My interpretation..." The word is interpretation brother. Are we not entitled to free speech? The other word is "probably presumed" which is subjunctive.

He may have wrote ‘Mene, Mene, Tekel, Parsin’ this also makes sense along with what you stated. This may be why John is specific and makes sure to use the word Finger.

Was this story added later in the Bible. Older copies of the manuscripts did not have this story. Can you please explain this?

@soflo3218

7 ай бұрын

This story is from the New Testament not the Old Testament. There’s plenty of manuscripts from the old and New Testament .

@Badumtss2468

7 ай бұрын

@@soflo3218 you didn’t get my point. Scholars agree that older manuscripts of the New Testament did not have this story in it. In later copies, they found this story. So it was definitely added later. My question is to explain, why, who and how it got added later?

@soflo3218

7 ай бұрын

@@Badumtss2468 where’s your source ? . If they didn’t find the original manuscript until later doesn’t mean the story was added later. You do know that they don’t have all the original manuscripts you know that right?

@Badumtss2468

7 ай бұрын

@@soflo3218 cant link sources. Comments get automatically deleted by KZread. Just check for these passages and search in google whether it was added later or not. I have read Dr. Pitres book on case for Jesus where he tackles the New Testament oldest copies. In this context, scholars have a debate. Some say copies which have this story are second edition of the Gospel of John. Whereas those copies from where this story was missing is the first edition if Gospel of John. It’s interesting. Search it up. I just wanted Dr. Pitre to shed some light on this. His views and opinions.

Very well explained. I am not sure if this has been posted in the comments yet or not , but there is another mystery to this . The only person there without sin was Jesus , the Pharisees knew this , so by dropping their stones ( admitting they were sinners ) they themselves were at risk of being judged by Jesus for their sins . Which may also be why they got out of dodge lickity split

Could not both the 2nd and 3rd interpretation be both true? He did it in fulfillment of prophecy as well as writing their sins in the sand?

I always enjoy these videos and I'm Eastern Orthodox; thanks!

@wolfthequarrelsome504

5 жыл бұрын

It's the same for you.

@tjhoss6729

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that! Confessing your sins to a priest? Nowhear in scripture is that to be found ... to Believers, the body of Christ yes🙌. If you stop confessing to a priest they will be out of a job, so that would probably not make them very happy😂.🤣🤣🤣

@bobboulos

5 жыл бұрын

@@tjhoss6729 what a waste of time you are Mr

@tjhoss6729

5 жыл бұрын

@@bobboulos so I take it you must Elevate tradition above God's word?

@tjhoss6729

5 жыл бұрын

@Niko Bellic I appreciate your conviction but your faith is only as good as what and who you put it in. Show me what you said in scripture and I will believe it. You must realize priests are tainted by the sin of Adam. We're saved by faith alone in Christ alone! Ephesians 2:8-9 Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness Genesis 15:6. No works. But what does the Roman Catholic Church do? they teach that you must keep the law in order to be saved and this is a false gospel. And since the RCC is seeking to be justified by law and Paul the Apostle says we are not to be justified by law Romans 3:28 Romans 4:5 Romans 5:1 also Galatians 5:3-4 therefore they can't be considered a true Christian church... because they violate the doctrine of justification by faith alone in Christ alone. RCC also says these are all( necessary) for salvation! The church, baptism, Penance, sacraments, Services of witnesses of the faith, keeping the Ten Commandments and detachments from riches equals it's a false gospel! That's why no true Christian Church should ever work hand-in-hand with the RCC least it inadvertently give Credence in value to the false gospel that it preaches... Question for you Nico ??? who are you following?? Jesus Christ God in flesh, the creator of all things in heaven and on Earth??? Or are you following man-made traditions? Please tell me where anywhere in the Holy Bible where it says we must worship and pray to Mary... that is a flat out adulterated heresy... was she a special woman? Absolutely yes ...can she hear all our prayers at all times in all places in all languages absolutely not, that's what the Roman Catholic church has brainwashed you into believing. May God give you ears to hear... what is it Prosper a man to gain the whole world but in the end lose their soul. Please don't follow Fallen men only follow the God breathed inspired words of God.

It might have been the names of people that the womans accusers had seriously transgressed against or maybe the words for the various types of sin that the main accusers were guilty of. Like, molestation or sexual abuse. Murder. Or who knows what. It shut those dudes up though.

Amen praise Jesus

To have ones name written unto the dirt (often sand or dust as well) is to be kept (in memory or literally) by weak & fleeting means. Essentially that they are loosened from divine keeping in that book of living names.

Hey guys, was wondering about this. Jesus was at the temple court/ treasury room when the Pharisees sprung that trap on him. The ground that he wrote on was unlikely sand but cobble stones. I think there is one more interpretation to his actions (I.e wrote twice on stones) and these actions are also linked to Moses.

Well, since the Gospel is silent on what Jesus actually wrote , all one can do is speculate. However, the end result was Jesus avoided the trap of the Scribes and Pharisees, and in mercy, the woman was called to repentance and to "sin no more."

@marcelmalie3713

5 жыл бұрын

That is the most reasonable answer although we now know the true story as told by an eyewitness and faithful disciple of Jesus.

He wrote their transgressions in the sand what they also had done so that they would walk away and not condemn her for the sin she commited for they also were guilty . The known Churches of these last days should take heed to this and also give Mercy as Christ had done for he's our standard for they're no better for we're all SAVED that believe in Christ and are SAVED by the Grace of God. Bless you that have now an ear to here and pray for me least I forget. Peace ✌

Although we can never know what Jesus wrote in the sand, the observation of Him doing so is important. It is an unusual detail to include and preserve in the account, and it thereby gives veracity to the entire passage. If the passage was a work of fiction, the author probably would also have made up what Jesus wrote, and included it. The Holy testaments are rife with such believable details. At this time of Easter, another comes immediately to mind - Jesus says to Pontius Pilate, "I have come into the world to bear witness to the truth." To which Pilate replies, philosophically, "What is truth?" It sounds like a real exchange, and I believe it was.

@moonshoes11

2 жыл бұрын

That would depend on the narrative. There is far less credibility for these texts than apologists like to suggest. Do you think resurrection is a believable detail? How are supernatural claims proven today?

@traditionalgirl3943

2 жыл бұрын

@@moonshoes11, there is plenty of historical evidence to prove the supernatural but faith in God is a gift. Humbly pray for it. ✝️❤️🙏👍

@moonshoes11

2 жыл бұрын

@@traditionalgirl3943 Faith is just believing when there isn’t evidence to support the belief. If faith is a gift, and nobody gives you this gift…then what? Do Muslims use faith too? How about Hindus? What evidence do you suppose proves the supernatural? Can you ask your god what would convince me, and tell me what he says?

@moonshoes11

2 жыл бұрын

@@traditionalgirl3943 By the way, historical events cannot be evidence for the supernatural, only supernatural claims.

@traditionalgirl3943

2 жыл бұрын

@@moonshoes11, I could but I am not interested in proving anything to you. The gift of faith is a blessing from God (there’s only ONE true god.). All people were created by God to know, love and serve Him so that would include Muslims and Hindis. How is atheism working out for you? It’s emptiness will eventually get old; when it does God’s Truth and peace are waiting for you. ✝️👍🙂

I love the hidden fact of this account; maybe because what he wrote is none of our business.

@buergerdoc

5 жыл бұрын

I love this insight you offer here. Why do we always feel we have to know everything CLEARLY of the way of the Lord? Isn't it simply enough to trust in His Truth?

@SuperIliad

5 жыл бұрын

@@buergerdoc As the congregation is wont to say, "Amen."

"Jesus Woz Here"

@tylerdurden27

3 жыл бұрын

😂

I think that the half of what JESUS wrote before the Pharisees arrived showed foreknowledge of the charges they brought. When HE resumed writing, they looked down and saw their actions were presupposed in what HE already had written. By this they realized that HIS finger wrote on the tablets of the divine law.

Jesus is poetry ❤ how beautiful His teachings and actions

This is superb! Christians need to pay attention to this.

I see patience. Patience with all of us sinners to the very last one. A patience that requires only a perfect solution from a perfect reality whose word is truth & justice, mercy & forgiveness. Sins written in the sand that can be whipped away & forgotten should we desire such a gift.

John Bergsma said he was showing he was God here, in that he was the one that wtote the law with the finger of God as it says in Exodus 31:18. I like this explanation because in the verse right before he writes with his finger, they ask about the Law of Moses, so his writing with his finger is a direct response.

I read somewhere that there is also a connection to Numbers 5 where there is the ritual to be performed when a woman is accused of adultery. It takes the anger and supposed 'justice' away from the man and the community and gives it to God who judges the woman personally. It involves writing by a priest. Jesus writes until it's only the woman and Him, revealing his role both as priest and God.

I think he was writing down a question in the sand! He was asking where is the second adulterer? Why is it only the woman that is the sinner? Where is the man? And because he already knew who the man was… That’s why everyone left because they already knew who the man was too!!! And they couldn’t judge both of them! It was only the woman that would’ve been stoned to death not very wealthy well known man!

It would be strange if the text did not tell us what Yeshua wrote with His finger, but it says: "But Jesus stooped down and with finger wrote on the ground, and when they continued asking him he lifted up himself and said unto them, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her" and again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground." This is saying He wrote and said, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her" and then He wrote it again. Repeating a statement or word is the standard Hebrew way to emphasize the point. Yeshua often said "verily verily I say unto you" which means "very much so very much so I say unto you". We who believe know that Christ's instructions are Law. To emphasize this He wrote it twice in Temple soil. What is noteworthy is that these men did not dare challenge Yeshua's claim to this authority. What the video says about no witnesses is very true. But, also, if adultery is caught in the act the man was also caught and according to Law they are both to be stoned. It is not Lawful to stone the one and not the other. Therefor it is noteworthy that Christ had an easy out at that moment, but instead He chose to boldly apply His authority in public and teach Truth. Much love. Christ be to all.

@nicholas3354

2 жыл бұрын

@Lameekia Oh, hey! I wrote that three years ago. So, now that I have better Greek-study skills, I double checked it. What I wrote holds up, except for what I said about "verily verily", which is simply "amen amen" and, technically, means "affirmative affirmative", but, more exactly, it simply means "amen amen". I see your icon states that you love yourself. If you want to live forever, you must deny yourself and take up your cross and follow the Lord Jesus. He has paid, in full, for your sins; now, if you will believe in His true Gospel, then you will pass from death to life and you will never die.

Lord, you are the hope of Israel; all who forsake you will be put to shame. Those who turn away from you will be written in the dust because they have forsaken the Lord, the spring of living water. (Jer 17:13)

@fallenslave6684

5 жыл бұрын

Amen

If you liked this video, a commentary by Jeff Cavins complements is very well. Same reference to Jeremiah, with a few more interesting details and ideas to go along with it. kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6h826x7etm5kpM.html

What was important is that He had to be in a praying position in order to draw anything. Doing that got an answer straight from God Himself. The same should happen for us after we say the Lord's Prayer in a sincere way, instant answer. Writing on the wall type of events can be found in the Book of Daniel

What did Jesus write in the sand? "Bring in the wife of the adulterer, and let justice take its course." To the women "caught in adultery", he said, "Go your way and sin no more."

@russcollins4762

5 жыл бұрын

One MercilessMing His name is Yeshua He weote jer.17.13 . which takes us back to the gen. from the groind you came to the ground you will return

@onemercilessming1342

5 жыл бұрын

@@russcollins4762 --His name in HEBREW is Yeshua (Joshua). His name in GREEK translates as Jesus. Mexicans today still use the Jesus spelling with a slightly different pronunciation.

@russcollins4762

5 жыл бұрын

One MercilessMing His name in greek is ee aa. soos is trans lated from hebrew Yeshua is the short version of Yehoshuah or joshua Which are from YEHOVAH He who is was and wil be . Yeshua He saves Yehoshuah He will save. jesus mean nothing . king james invention . our foredathers came to this land using ee aa soose

@onemercilessming1342

5 жыл бұрын

@@russcollins4762You are SO wrong. Typical narker who disagrees with ceenturies of Greek, Aramaic, and Hebrew scholars. But I'll allow you to live in your fantasy world. Now naff off. You're being IGNORED.

@onemercilessming1342

5 жыл бұрын

THIS is Jesus's name I GREEK, Ιησούς pronounced lisous

Great

Nothing but speculation... only He that wrote it and those that saw it know.

@plogoo1

4 жыл бұрын

Obviously it’s only speculation... did you expect otherwise going into the video? I’ll take speculation from Saint Augustine any day,

@yohanesyohanes8259

3 жыл бұрын

Read Maria Valtorta's The Gospel as Revealed to Me. No speculation, revealed by our Lord Jesus to us.

Could Jesus have also been amending the Mosaic law to include those without sin casting the first stone in such situations?(John8:7) The fact he writes with his finger in the earth could also have been an allusion to Exodus31:18 where God writes the commandments that he gave to Moses with his finger as well. Christ being God has the authority to amend that law(Matthew28:18). He writes twice, the first time seems to indicate that he wrote what he said to them. The second time he writes it could have been what some of the early church fathers suggested, an allusion to the the prophecy in Jeremiah. Possibly even a verbatim quote of Jeremiah17:13 so the scribes and Pharisees could see that the prophecy was in relation to them rejecting him.

Jesus did not write anything on the ground but shaped a mirror where the accusers saw their own list of sins with the elders having the long lists. They had to retreat because their sins were seen by everyone. That is the true story.

It could also mean to the Begining part of creation where man was created from the dust of the earth

Of course, since this passage is not found in the oldest manuscripts, it is viewed as an interpolation by most scholars.

Context: Writing something while some are accusing another of sin. Maybe a list? Where have we seen a list of sins before? And how were they written? By the hand or finger, as in Ps 144: "Blessed be the LORD, my rock, who trains my hands for battle, my fingers for war", and Exodus 31:18, Exodus 32:16: The 10 commandments written by the hand/finger of God. Perhaps it was a examination of conscience for them, after which they realized their own sins.

The Great wisdom of God he is the greatest Vindicator

Jeremiah 17:13 “LORD, you are the hope of Israel; all who forsake you will be put to shame. Those who turn away from you will be written in the dust because they have forsaken the LORD, the spring of living water.” (See John 7 & 8 for context)

This is a very clear explanation with the Bible explaining the Bible. Jesus was also the One who wrote the law in the first place.

I can't imagine, this woman and the man with whom she committed adultery would do so out in the open. So this sin would not likely be witnessed by 2? Further, isn't the harmed spouse required to make the charge? Shouldn't the man with whom this woman committed adultery be punished also?

JESUS want to tell them "I AM" who wrote the 10 commandements and give it to Moses". Question in Old Testament must be answered in New Testament. Vise Versa.

@randsollie7921

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly right. The area He sat down and wrote on the ground was not sand or dirt. It was cobblestone. His finger writing on stone, just like the 10 commandments.

He may have wrote, "All have sin"; and then says,"He among you that is without sin,cast the first stone." Their own guilt caused them to cease their initial thought to stone her.

There's no need to speculate what the Lord wrote. If we needed to know it would be included in the narrative.

@jmar5785

5 жыл бұрын

Mario1611 pretty typical conservative Christian comment. There is no need to know, just believe. God gave us a brain and curiosity so that we could discover the truth of God’s creation. And it’s ok.

Jesus wrote the woman's sin into the ground of forgiveness. He buried her sin in the sand so the wind (Holy Spirit) could wipe it out.

We should be ashamed of our sins, but not in the presence of our Lord, who is now with us always.

He simply wrote, "Thy shalt forgive thy neighbor seventy times seven." (Matthew 18:21-22 kjb) It's a commentary on Lev 26:18 and Ex 31:18 kjb "...when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the FINGER OF GOD." As His office of Jehovah.

@dominic5520

5 жыл бұрын

einc70 MATT 18:21+22,”AND PETER CAME TO HIM AND SAID ,LORD HOW OFTEN SHALL MY BROTHER SIN AGAINST ME AND I FORGIVE HIM,7 TIMES ?AND JESUS SAID TO HIM ,I SAY NOT 7 TIMES BUT 70 TIMES 7 “ this is about forgiving fellow CHRISTIANS,not our neighbors.

“Everything written about me in the Law, and the Prophets, and the Psalms must be fulfilled “

The pericopa de adultera does not appear in the earliest manuscripts and was likely added by a zealous scribe through the centuries similar to the way scribes completed the gospel of Matthew.

it's my favorite story, but scholars have realized & accepted it was not part of the original text. It was a late addition to the text & not in any of our oldest manuscripts, just like the Wedding of Cana story. The question, then, is what did the interpolator mean by having Jesus writing in the sand? Jeremiah meant that the names of those written in sand would be forgotten -- it's a saying that came out of Egypt. It is NOT a fulfillment of "prophesy" as in a fortune teller's prediction of the future. That thinking is the Hellenistic pagan rewrite of the gospel. A Hebrew prophesy is more like what we'd call a warning about consequences if we don't change. Foretelling the future was absolutely forbidden, and only those who believe in fate, rather than free will, believe in determinative prophesy. So he would not have been trying to fulfill prophesy. The standard practice of the day was for a priest to write the accused's name in the sand before their "trial". All the names of those who were what we now call "on the docket". If it was so important, we wouldn't be left to guess on anything, so we must assume it would have been obvious to those originally told this story -- and given ancient practice of the time, the best guess is that he first wrote the adulteresses name, then started writing the names of her accusers when he bent down again -- a "judge not or we'll have to judge your too" kind of thing. The Bible is NOT a solitary, consistent work -- and people need to accept that. American Evangelism has made a false idol out of a collection of different texts written in different cultures & contexts across millennia, which are ARGUIING about theology. Each book disagrees with the next, and the readers job is the WORK OUT OUR OWN SALVATION. The Bible cannot be the "Word" mentioned in the Bible, because the BIble didn't exist while it was being written -- so please just stop with that. The LOGOS is LIVING -- not dried ink on a human-made scroll in a human language. Btw -- "WORD" isn't even the correct translation -- Logos means REASON, which uses language for its vehicle. Which means you have do your homework a LOT better. Or is your faith a matter of joining the RCC & then asking what you believe?

The woman didn't repent. Was she saved by grace? What does "sin no more" imply?

Jesus GOD of Grace to make the Law Fulfilled..😊🙏🙏 forgivemess and Love to Man

AMEN.

Some think Jesus wrote in the sand for the Pharisees: "How do you know that your own wives don't commit adultery?"

AMEN 🙏

Jesus was tracing shapes on the ground, having a soothing effect on the angry crowd. They were then able to think rationally after being soothed this way. Tracing a finger along the side of a table can calm the other person. I saw this. Jesus wishes us to settle ourselves down, then we're able to see ordinary truths and requirements.

That is so Jesus, you know He was writing all their sins down

Look at the painting, the temple courtyard is paved, who else writes with His finger in stone?.

@yohanesyohanes8259

3 жыл бұрын

Read Maria Valtorta's The Gospel as Revealed to Me. Crystal clear in there.

For over 2K years we have been trying to figure out what our Lord God wrote. Some think it was the individual sin of every man standing there. "Those without sin cast the first stone". Me, I reckon if were important that we knew God would have been more specific and told us in Scripture. I doubt God accidentally left anything out.

I've heard recently that He was alluding to the fact that he wrote the law.