What did David Lynch MEAN with Twin Peaks?? | The Return & the Golden Age of TV (part 2 of 2)

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10:16 THE COOPERS
18:28 MALE COMBAT
28:03 TRIPLETS
42:46 TWIN PEAKS AND DAVID LYNCH
50:16 PURGATORY
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  • @MaggieMaeFish
    @MaggieMaeFish2 жыл бұрын

    in the last section, by "episode 15" of course i mean "episode 17." it's 4/20, so chillllllll

  • @unstoppableExodia

    @unstoppableExodia

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hope y’all in Yankee Doodle-land have a very happy 420.

  • @marcusmalone

    @marcusmalone

    2 жыл бұрын

    CANCELLED!

  • @toddhollen

    @toddhollen

    2 жыл бұрын

    How dare you

  • @pizmeyre5055

    @pizmeyre5055

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maggie, this was worth the wait. These two videos are the best take on Twin Peaks I've watched. You've made me reconsider the show completely and that's what I appreciates about you!

  • @swguygardner

    @swguygardner

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm shocked by how good the mustache looks on you.

  • @Mitcheck315
    @Mitcheck3152 жыл бұрын

    Is David Lynch making his protagonist basically comatose for the whole season infuriating? kinda. is it also maybe the funniest writing decisions ever put to the medium? yes yes it is

  • @gateauxq4604

    @gateauxq4604

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also giving Kyle MacLaughlin something unique and unusual to do usually works out much better than anyone could have imagined. Him playing both Dougie and Evil Coop at the same time was much more fun to watch than regular Coop coming back and rehashing the plot of the original show for nostalgia.

  • @MadGeorgeProductions

    @MadGeorgeProductions

    2 жыл бұрын

    It makes Cooper's eventual full return so worth it though. "I am the FBI!" I nearly jumped with glee! I would have been a lot less irritated with Dougie Jones if I knew ahead of time how long we'd have to live with him. Having every episode be the one we're you're thinking "Is this the one when real Cooper is back?" became very vexing.

  • @bigboncho

    @bigboncho

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MadGeorgeProductions By the second episode with Dougie, I was fully convinced that we would never see a full return of Agent Cooper. I though he would exist in the red room and maybe find ways to influence the real world, but never return the way fans were expecting. And although I was ultimately wrong, viewing the show with this mindset allowed me to really enjoy it. David Lynch doesn’t care what fans or studios want, he does what he wants and we’re all along for the ride, and I wouldn’t have it any other way.

  • @BradsGonnaPlay

    @BradsGonnaPlay

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bigboncho absolutely correct. The reason The Return worked for me was because I got into the show in 2020 and seeing the return made me realize, Lynch is doing what he DOES lol That being said, I could see how it would hurt after 25 years.

  • @eleanorelmore

    @eleanorelmore

    2 жыл бұрын

    “Are you awake?” “Yes.” “Finally.” One of my favorite exchanges in tv or cinema. (Also this isn’t the exact dialogue this is just from memory.)

  • @hongquiao
    @hongquiao2 жыл бұрын

    "Mom whose scream will affect the whole world" should be an oscar category. (And Toni Collete is owed one for "Hereditary")

  • @andyg4929

    @andyg4929

    7 ай бұрын

    Obligatory, Toni Collete is phenomenal comment.

  • @jdog7797

    @jdog7797

    Ай бұрын

    Also the lady who did the scream for the Ring Waiths in LoTRs.

  • @sildaz
    @sildaz2 жыл бұрын

    It took me a while to realize Lynch's surreal work were not meant as puzzles to be solved, but as metaphors, allegories, etc, for things so absurd and traumatic that we can't process

  • @LeaMattia

    @LeaMattia

    10 ай бұрын

    heart

  • @mst3kharris
    @mst3kharris2 жыл бұрын

    It’s funny, but the moment that stuck the most with me from _Twin Peaks: The Return_ was the moment Bobby Briggs went into the station conference room and sees Laura’s photo. The way he burst into tears said so much to me about love and grief. It reminded me that _Twin Peaks_ was founded on tragedy. It struck me at the end of this video that Cooper’s choice to “save” Laura didn’t save her at all, in a sense. Saving her from being murdered is good, but a Laura who survives is a Laura who still has to struggle with trauma, abuse, and drug addiction. It says something about Cooper that he chose to save Laura from her death, but not from her life.

  • @davetoedter91

    @davetoedter91

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, that was my take as well. The focus of the show was Laura's death, but to truly save her would to be to stop everything that happened leading up to that death. That devastating scream to me meant she was being put back into the tragedy, not being saved from it. That's the moment that stuck with me the most.

  • @gateauxq4604

    @gateauxq4604

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dana Ashbrook struck me as a bit of a prick who was just smearing his ego all over the screen but Im so glad I was wrong. In The Return he gives his character a level of grace that the kid always needed and made him 3 dimensional. That scene broke my heart and finally drove home for me that his character was much more than a pest.

  • @Xondar11223344

    @Xondar11223344

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bobby Briggs was so good in The Return. You can see the tremendous amount of growth his character went through. He could have became a villain, instead he because a cop, so he still ended up a villain (ba-dum-tish).

  • @ksionc100

    @ksionc100

    2 жыл бұрын

    actually Laura Palmer sacrificed herself purposely. Her parents were hosts to demons Joudy and Baal. The ones who escaped from the underworld during atomic tests - meaning Bob and the worm (who entered young girl's/sarah's mother/ mouth). Accoring to ancient Summeric prophecy Joudy and Baal were to create an entity who would end the world as we know it (Laura). Once Cooper reversed Lauras death/sacrifice Twin Peaks became more evil and corrupted place. That's all according to abstract of Mark Frost's "Twin Peaks: The Final Dossier" Also Joudy was investigated by David Bowie (played by Special Agent Phillip Jeffries) in Argentina as mentioned in "Fire walk with me".

  • @BradsGonnaPlay

    @BradsGonnaPlay

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Xondar11223344 totally appreciate the joke, but just want to add that his change in the series was fully based on growth and positive development (even if the police is a tenuous at best way to show that)

  • @HeavyWeapons52
    @HeavyWeapons522 жыл бұрын

    45:10 mentions how the black box is a metaphor for television, but another layer to it that I really really love is that they're literally sitting on a couch for hours on end waiting for agent Cooper to finally show up. Probably not too different from a good chunk of the audience T__T

  • @neotek303

    @neotek303

    Ай бұрын

    À black cube, which is also a box, is a symbol for Saturn. Which also happens to be present in the red room in green... matrix green 😎 Saturn is referenced in many films, shows and songs. Why is that? And why is Venus there too? Could these questions and the entire show be explained by the appearance of the Freemasonry emblem in The Return? Does RR stand for Red Room? Is the bottom layer of the Twin Peaks cake actually based on esoteric knowledge hidden from humanity by secret societies for millenia? Answers to these questions and more will not be given. May the Force be with you young Jedi.

  • @neotek303

    @neotek303

    Ай бұрын

    The link between the A bomb and the sheriff named Harry S Truman is probably just a coincidence right? It never ceases to amaze me how hardly ever reviewers bother to connect these dots of the true underlying concept, nor understand that the film and TV industry is run by secret societies such as Freemasonry, Skull and Bones, the Illuminati, Templars, etc... There's a reason they show the emblem of Freemasonry watching over the RR Diner in The Return. Surely TP isn't the purgatory of Harry S Truman? The one who let the evil genie out of the bottle. The owls are not what they seem. Bohemian Grove where all US President's must go has a 40 foot owl. The genius of TP is that it has many layers, something adepts of esoteric wisdom are well versed in. Ergo the viewer will only perceive the layer that matches their level of consciousness. Lynchs explanation of The Unified Field and his depiction of such as the purple sea in The Return isnt artistic license, its real. Lynch and Frost are trying to awaken people to actual truths about reality such as the soul trap reincarnation machinery set-up on this planet by beings that energetically feed off human emotion, especially negative emotions caused by trauma and suffering. The Wachowskis did the same with The Matrix and Jupiter Ascending. In short TP is esoteric wisdom about reality and the journey of the soul wrapped in layers of storytelling narratives and veiled allegories/commentaries about the entertainment industry and its consumers, etc. The reason they are allowed to do this is that there's no way to prove the deeper truth, no way to convince people of it, for they have to "see it for themselves". And guess what... the vast majority don't want to see it, don't care to see it, for they simply want to be entertained. Has one single reviewer mentioned what the fire in "fire walk with me" represents? It's a key part of the show yet again no reviewers ever touch it. I'm not Lynch and I'm not a Freemason so I'm just going to SPELL it out for you. Fire represents the eternal spirit of the Creator, which we who are ensoulled carry within us. In that sense we are all Laura Palmer on our own journey into Hell (lower material realms) to be tortured by Darkness and hopefully one day emerge triumphant over it on our journey of spiritual evolution which will inevitably lead to us escaping this false matrix and entering higher spiritual realms. Know Thyself. In a way TP is telling you other realms exist. There's a positive aspect and a negative aspect. And if you don't understand the game your in its going to be difficult to play the game and win. You might even end up being consumed by Darkness as food. Both are whispering in your ear so be careful which voice you listen to... and be careful you don't let the Darkness inside. And if you think the evil doppelganger is just a literary tool for the animal nature etc think again. Its there with us all the time on an etheric level. That's why this concept is so prevalent in film, TV and literature. Yet again one can only perceive these things through personal gnosis. Lynch doesn't believe his explanation of The Unified Field, he's experienced it... it's true that's my presumption but I'm confident it's true. After all he's an avid practitioner of TM. Anyway I enjoyed your deconstruction of TP at that level of the cake, i found it to be lucid, informative and entertaining. Good work 😊 I'm sure Lynch would be proud as its this type of thinking he's hoping to activate within people. 😇

  • @gokuhsanandreasgamerjesusc5059
    @gokuhsanandreasgamerjesusc50592 жыл бұрын

    Dale Cooper once said 'Every day, once a day, give yourself a present. Don't plan it. Don't wait for it. Just let it happen.'. This was today's present for me. Thank you for another great video!

  • @fuzzydunlop7928

    @fuzzydunlop7928

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wish Big Money Salvia were here to subvert this otherwise heartwarming comment.

  • @fishcongress8257

    @fishcongress8257

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@fuzzydunlop7928 Bouncing on my boy's third eye to this

  • @Andrew-vh1ws
    @Andrew-vh1ws2 жыл бұрын

    By not attempting to "explain everything," Maggie actually gets into all the good stuff. Like the emotional devastation of that hit and run!! Can't get enough of these. If Maggie did an episode by episode breakdown of The Return, I'd guzzle it gratefully from a tap.

  • @ghus2046

    @ghus2046

    2 жыл бұрын

    How much money do I have to pay for this

  • @PrimerCinePodcast

    @PrimerCinePodcast

    2 жыл бұрын

    Uf uf uf great idea

  • @gnubbiersh647

    @gnubbiersh647

    2 жыл бұрын

    i mean, she does explain alot :P

  • @notkoko2385

    @notkoko2385

    2 жыл бұрын

    so real

  • @jimmygownley9573

    @jimmygownley9573

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes please!

  • @McHomeslice456
    @McHomeslice4562 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact, the actress who plays Candie, Amy Shiels, is the protagonist of her own little dimension of Twin Peaks. She's the voice of Tammy Preston in the audio books of Mark Frost's "The Secret History of Twin Peaks", and "The Final Dossier". Just a fun coincidence!

  • @mothmansuperfan7513
    @mothmansuperfan75132 жыл бұрын

    Your interview with Lisa Corinado really makes my day. Everything I hear about Lynch makes me think he's one of the nicest people imaginable to meet

  • @toddhollen

    @toddhollen

    2 жыл бұрын

    I really wish I liked Lynch's stuff more. It seems like something I should like and it's nice to hear about an artist in Hollywood that actually seems to be a good person so you can like his work without feeling dirty. But I have tried a few of his things and just couldn't get into them. Maybe I need to try again.

  • @hagbardceline7118

    @hagbardceline7118

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@toddhollen his work can make you feel dirty because that's the artistic intent. Fire Walk With Me does so often, but that doesn't go behind go behind scenes. That being said, his work is very not for everyone and it's totally fine to not be into it.

  • @MadGeorgeProductions

    @MadGeorgeProductions

    2 жыл бұрын

    I always liked what Jack Fisk said about Lynch: "It's a good thing David has his art or he'd kill somebody!"

  • @fuzzydunlop7928

    @fuzzydunlop7928

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@toddhollen It took me a long time to come to an understanding with anything I've seen that Lynch has made other than Eraserhead, and the understanding was that 'coming to' an understanding is the closest you can get to truly understanding it, and sometimes that a-okay. I had to start thinking of it in terms of music - like the interpreted meaning of a song by an artist you like that they've never extrapolated on in an interview. Something that's concrete enough to have a 'vibe' or even the whisper of some themes but opaque enough to allow your imagination and personal experience to fill in the blanks. That's what I say to get my film-geek friends off my back for not 'getting' David Lynch, anyway.

  • @shelbyacosta9057
    @shelbyacosta90572 жыл бұрын

    I bonded over Twin Peaks with a dear friend that passed away a few years ago. That scene between Hawk and Margaret really hits different now.

  • @erin814
    @erin8142 жыл бұрын

    i like the scene where dougie takes down the gunman because when theyre interviewing one of the witnesses on the news she says something like "that douglas jones, he moved like a cobra!" and it lives in my brain rent free

  • @informationalrecords
    @informationalrecords6 ай бұрын

    For people who've seen the show and are seeking the deeper rabbit holes: Maggie's series definitely provides a lot of much needed cultural and emotional insight as well as the female perspective missing from the Twin Perfect video (and is imo a more fun watch and a better take on season 3), BUT the Twin Perfect video is still an invaluable resource for a lot of the weirder stuff from the first two seasons left out here like interpretations of the red room, garmonbozia, flashing lights, the ring, pale horse, the relationship between Mike, Bob, & The Arm, etc.

  • @kdjets
    @kdjets2 жыл бұрын

    Skylar was always the most human part of Breaking Bad for me. I was really disgusted to hear the actress suffered abuse from the fans. Now I understand the structures of toxicity that lead to that. Thanks Maggie

  • @Skabanis

    @Skabanis

    5 ай бұрын

    God I hated Skylar that’s cause the actress was fantastic she did her job right! I hated Tony soprano dude was the devil but who doesn’t wanna see the devil at work.

  • @GlassThirdEye
    @GlassThirdEye2 жыл бұрын

    I'd be lying if I said I didn't tear up at catherine coulsons final scene with Hawk. The line she delivers about "there's some fear in letting go" always stuck with me.

  • @RealLukeWilson
    @RealLukeWilson2 жыл бұрын

    I just want to point out that Chris Carter hired many Twin Peaks actors in the early seasons of The X-Files, then Vince Gilligan hired actors from The X-Files for Breaking Bad, which was a show critiqued by Twin Peaks: The Return. Everything came full-circle.

  • @RealLukeWilson

    @RealLukeWilson

    Жыл бұрын

    @Paul Gauthier My dad was a huge fan of The Prisoner, and it's been on my watchlist for years.

  • @thebasedgodmax1163

    @thebasedgodmax1163

    Жыл бұрын

    Hawk, Ben Horne, Windom Earle, Major Briggs all show in X Files, for a few examples!

  • @NatBKiev

    @NatBKiev

    5 ай бұрын

    @@thebasedgodmax1163David Duchovny

  • @SaiScribbles
    @SaiScribbles2 жыл бұрын

    When I finally watched Breaking Bad I was surprised how the two typically cited as badass Heisenburg moments ("You're goddamn right", "I am the danger") were both, in context, Walt posturing when he was in way over his head and soon after suffered a huge fall. So, yeah, people really missed the point huh?

  • @magsley579
    @magsley5792 жыл бұрын

    Genuinely got sad when this video ended, similarly to how I felt at the end of The Return, oddly enough. I could listen to you talk about Twin Peaks all day.

  • @marcusmalone
    @marcusmalone2 жыл бұрын

    Totally nailed my own issue with Twin Perfect's take: his overly narrow argument that TP was ultimately a commentary of TV. It's about the human condition, and culture, and TV as his medium is simply wrapped up in it all.

  • @TheWesterlyWarlock

    @TheWesterlyWarlock

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. I couldn't understand how anyone so familiar with Lynch could possibly believe that Lynch, who practices Transcendental Meditation, was only commenting on the state of television and had no larger message about humanity's interconnectedness and empathy and all that jazz. Somehow Lynch separated himself from all that and used it only as fun imagery without any of the important stuff behind the images? Seems logical...if you're not anyone who understands criticism. I suppose Twin Perfect was taking a formalist approach, and that's fine, but he is so smug and convinced that he's "solved" it all and that there's nothing beyond formalism I guess.

  • @BradsGonnaPlay

    @BradsGonnaPlay

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s… literally covered in his video. Like a lot, over and over again and also tied into his thesis

  • @austincarter5691

    @austincarter5691

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BradsGonnaPlay I don't understand why people need to believe and say false things to critique twin perfect or whoever else for mansplaining it or whatever. If you disagree with something that's fine but why have this strong opinion when you clearly don't care bout what they actually said or covered? He calls himself fucking bob in the video for gods sake.

  • @testcase6997

    @testcase6997

    2 жыл бұрын

    His theory was about violence on tv vs violence in real life and about creativity in general. Maggie’s video isn’t far off at all and is honestly much more arrogant in dismissing other interpretations than twin perfects. Not that that’s bad, just tired seeing one guy get shit on as smug and arrogant when it’s just his opinion and he heavily caveats his video at the beginning with it being his interpretation. Idk, I jus think it’s sad that on Maggie’s videos you can see comments saying “I’ve never watched twin peaks, but I get it all now. I have less interest in seeing it now, but I love the video essays” and I think that’s a very sad thing to see.

  • @pizzaparker9544

    @pizzaparker9544

    2 жыл бұрын

    No one here in the comments or otherwise has actually seen twin perfects video, they just read the title and the thumbnail.

  • @ShaunCloudSwain
    @ShaunCloudSwain2 жыл бұрын

    Cooper was separated into thirds similarly to how Laura was separated into thirds in the first two seasons. The mystery of Laura was sacred to the series because the more important question wasn't "Who killed Laura Palmer?" it was "Who WAS Laura Palmer?" As the series unfolded, the more Laura we knew as different aspects were explored through other characters. Donna - The good girl next door; trapped in a sappy yet scandalous first love with James; doing what she can to grow up faster; burdened with the emotional burden of being Harold's only confidante; losing her innocence Audrey - The dark pasted mysterious girl; the emergence and weaponsation of sexuality yet a childish naievetè; her bright optimism and belief that there is and should be good in the world; her dealings with the seedy underbelly uncovering her own father's complicitness in it all. Shelly - Her sense of insecurity within the home; the vulnerability of a young woman who delved too deep with no strong rock to lean on or space to come up for air; her insistence to see the good in the people she loves even if they don't show it, and how dangerous that can be. They're all women in their own right, but they are forever rippling out from the splash that Laura's death caused. They are just as much part of the world that made Laura's life and death the way they were. As the major cliffhanger of Season 2 hinged on the future of Cooper, why WOULDN'T we see the loss of Cooper ripple out into a triplet of overlapping circles?

  • @Nilnot
    @Nilnot2 жыл бұрын

    Of course this comes out on 4/20

  • @liquidpebbles7475

    @liquidpebbles7475

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup lol

  • @TheOneTrueAnthemis

    @TheOneTrueAnthemis

    2 жыл бұрын

    Is that the weed number?! I'm calling the police

  • @magpieMOB

    @magpieMOB

    2 жыл бұрын

    My first thought when I saw the premiere notification

  • @JessieGender1
    @JessieGender12 жыл бұрын

    I’m still doubling down that watching these video essays then Watching the show is the best option.

  • @mookinbabysealfurmittens

    @mookinbabysealfurmittens

    2 жыл бұрын

    Omg samesies! Also omg hiii fancy seeing you here! You're awesome!

  • @pleggli

    @pleggli

    2 жыл бұрын

    it is probably not the best option but it is also far from the worst one.

  • @kittyprydekissme

    @kittyprydekissme

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Jessie is here! I love your stuff. Does your presence here indicate that you plan to do some Twin Peaks videos?

  • @poposterous236

    @poposterous236

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just sayin' I wish I watched all of Jessie's stuff before getting into Star Trek, that would have been the better option.

  • @kennethlutze

    @kennethlutze

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was having the same thought... I think that you're onto something.

  • @TheVermyExperience
    @TheVermyExperience2 жыл бұрын

    You forgot Peggy Lipton in mentioning those who have passed on since the show filmed. Don't blame you since it was an unusually high number of performers who died. Absolutely AMAZING video and analysis otherwise!!!

  • @MaggieMaeFish

    @MaggieMaeFish

    2 жыл бұрын

    Peggy 💙💙💙

  • @chefarik
    @chefarik2 жыл бұрын

    This is a goddamn weed day miracle. I love pedantic twin peaks navel gazing almost as much as I love watching M.M.F. point out the absurdity of the weird stuff I love.

  • @kandyjo

    @kandyjo

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just got home from work to this part and thought the exact same thing. As far as Wednesdays go, this is a damn good one.

  • @junespage

    @junespage

    2 жыл бұрын

    damn. I've never read something more relatable

  • @jessebaughman8682
    @jessebaughman86822 жыл бұрын

    i like this video AND twin perfect's video!!! twin perfect released their video at a moment of crisis in my life when i needed all of the answers laid out for me. i felt it was lacking in emotional depth and missed a lot by refusing to explore the other themes in twin peaks. maggie mae's video brought emotional rawness into the reading at a time in life where i have space for that sort of thing. neither video explores disability and aging in the return. if i made a six-hour video about twin peaks, i'd probably talk about that. i hope if twin perfect and maggie mae read this comment, that they feel good about their work.

  • @daddystingray9961

    @daddystingray9961

    2 жыл бұрын

    I thought they were compatable

  • @GaleeStorm

    @GaleeStorm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Twin perfect focuses only on one aspect of the meanings behind twin peaks, and that makes him be mistaken on a lot of stuff i think. But hes also right on a lot nonetheless

  • @stargazerbird

    @stargazerbird

    Жыл бұрын

    They are saying similar things, just one is more technical and this more rooted in the emotions. I love them both.

  • @alexharbin4124
    @alexharbin41242 жыл бұрын

    for me what was especially confusing and unsettling about the final episode is that odessa, texas is my home town. and there was no clear reason why he has to go find laura in odessa of all places. so there was a moment where i thought everybody watching was seeing their own place of birth or something as the ending. but that would be impossible. right?

  • @VuotoPneumaNN
    @VuotoPneumaNN2 жыл бұрын

    This is a masterpiece of film criticism. You are a gift to the world, Maggie. And so is David Lynch.

  • @barleymepodcast2301

    @barleymepodcast2301

    2 жыл бұрын

    Perfect pairing, honestly

  • @shaft9000

    @shaft9000

    2 жыл бұрын

    She isn't critiquing TP so much as describing her impressions of it while using _some_ critiques of Hollywood to elaborate. It's not film criticism, though. It is her personal, analytical interpretation of the story. Totally different things.

  • @VuotoPneumaNN

    @VuotoPneumaNN

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shaft9000 That's what criticism is: analyzing art, asking questions about it, giving your impressions of it and describing its connections to other bits of culture. And, if you're actually good at it, making more art in the process.

  • @lastflunky
    @lastflunky2 жыл бұрын

    Twin Peaks: The Return is one of the most beautiful and most haunting media I have seen. It's emotionally distressing but comforting at the same time. At the time it was airing I had not seen many prestige tv shows, so those references went over my head. This was a great analysis.

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader86012 жыл бұрын

    wow Log Lady's inclusion in adds a powerful sense of rawness and hyperealism to the twin peaks return series

  • @dickeymckay8289
    @dickeymckay82892 жыл бұрын

    I love that people truly believe there's something to "solve". Yes, there's little Easter Eggs that one can discovery. For instance Sonny-Jim. David Lynch's mother was called Sunny. He puts little pieces of bio and interests into sure, and you can find those things. But anyone that claims they've "solved Twin Peaks", well.... David is laughing at you. It's not to be solved. People have such a hard time grasping the concept of this, even though he's LITERALLY stated it. As he does with all his work. It's a personal project, and there's plenty of fun easter eggs to unravel and rabbit holes to go down into. But "solving" isn't a thing. It's fun to watch people think they've done it though.

  • @shanaeast125

    @shanaeast125

    2 жыл бұрын

    I thought Sonny Jim was a reference to this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_Jim But with Lynch... who knows! That's what makes it so great.

  • @WhoopsieDayZ

    @WhoopsieDayZ

    Жыл бұрын

    David Lynch has actually stated, many times, that there is definitely meaning to his work. It's not just "all random". Hidden within these scenes, there are always certain views or themes for us to find and think about. Is the WHOLE SHOW (so every scene, detail, line of dialogue) meant to be solved? Not at all. But within the chaos there is always meaning for us to find. There are things to solve and revelations to be had. Just not the show as a whole. Only parts of it.

  • @jaimebreen1165

    @jaimebreen1165

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WhoopsieDayZ exactly. So while we shouldn't feel the need to solve anything, it does have a specific /certain meaning for Lynch. He just could give two shits if we ever know what the meaning is..

  • @WhoopsieDayZ

    @WhoopsieDayZ

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jaimebreen1165 Every David Lynch project has meaning to it. One that we, as the viewer, can figure out. Just because the creator isn't going on camera spoonfeeding it to us, doesn't mean it's not there. Twin Peaks for example isn't just some "random scenes" put together. There are clear themes and ideas present and most of it can easily be solved. Some of his movies (like Mulholland Drive and Lost Highway) aren't even that hard to understand if you try.

  • @WhoopsieDayZ

    @WhoopsieDayZ

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jaimebreen1165 That said, I completely disagree with most things said in this video above. This view on what Twin Peaks means is extremely short-sighted. It is very clear that this woman had a certain point to make and she tries to fit the whole show around her vision. It's tunnelvision. This becomes even more clear if you look at her view on shows like Mad Men and The Sopranos. The "Dougie" sideplot in The Return (for example) isn't that much a comment on "Toxic Masculinity" (a way of thinking I'm sure Lynch would very much dislike). The "Dougie" sideplot is all about mundane, everyday life and how we should cherish it. It's literally one of the main themes of classic Twin Peaks.

  • @chrisball3778
    @chrisball37782 жыл бұрын

    For me, the Lynchpin of the series (pun intended) is episode 8, 'Got a Light?' AKA, the black and white, almost wholly unrestrained surrealist one. It sits in the middle of the series, but outside of its main timeline and is full of references to origin myths (Genesis, Pandora's Box, etc). It's used as a very oblique origin story for how 'Bob' entered the series universe, with him somehow being let into the world during the USA's first atomic bomb test (codenamed 'Trinity'- remember all those triplets and trios?). Obviously it's easy to see this a simple criticism of militarism or the risks of blindly pursuing scientific knowledge or power without thought to the consequences, but when you consider David Lynch's biography, a more interesting possibility emerges. Lynch was born in January 1946. This means that the Trinity test, as well as the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki most likely happened in the space between his conception and his birth. Lynch's life has existed for nearly exactly the same length of time as the evils of the atomic bomb, and he is drawing a very direct parallel between that evil being introduced into the world he lives in, and the evil he introduces into the worlds he creates- both began at the same time. Yet, just as in the legend of Pandora's box, at the same time as evil is introduced into the world, so is hope, a similar hope emerges from the darkness in 'Got a light'. The evil in Lynch's creations comes from him, but so does the hope and beauty. It's an origin myth for all those aspects, and for his work in general, a visual representation of the genesis of the creative process, and a tribute to the duality of human existence that is such a recurring theme in Lynch's work. It's his own, personal origin myth, one designed to tie his whole oeuvre together. That's my massively overthought fan theory, anyway. One great thing about surrealism is that you're actively encouraged to bring your own meanings and interpretations to the party. As well as... I dunno... your spot-on impressions of Hasan Piker, maybe.

  • @ghus2046
    @ghus20462 жыл бұрын

    The “Want, not need” scene always stuck with me. God Returns in such a good show! The chocolate bunnies is also such a great standout scene

  • @Bolts_Films
    @Bolts_Films2 жыл бұрын

    the crosswalk scene with Lisa totally broke me as well, not just because of her incredible performance but because I went to high school at mount is high school in the background of one of those shots, and would run with the cross country and track teams across that intersection daily, there's an elementary school just down the road as well that I went to for a few years, but there's always kids walking across those streets with parents and like traffic guard parents who help kids across those streets... the scene felt to me like I was no longer watching a show and as if I had just witnessed an actual tragedy.

  • @eduardoestebanmartinezdele2219
    @eduardoestebanmartinezdele22192 жыл бұрын

    00:00 Last time on Maggie Mae Fish's KZread channel. 00:36 25 Years Later... The Return 10:13 The Coopers 18:26 Infinite Varieties of Male Combat 28:02 Triplets (Trippelgängers) 42:44 Twin Peaks & David Lynch 50:16 Infinite TV or your Favorite Show Takes Place in Purgatory

  • @joeodonnell921

    @joeodonnell921

    2 жыл бұрын

    00:00 MEN!!...huh I'm I right. 00:36 MEN!!...HUH AM I RIGHT!! And so on...

  • @xXluluchanelXx

    @xXluluchanelXx

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joeodonnell921 are you ok? lol watch the rest of the video

  • @joeodonnell921

    @joeodonnell921

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@xXluluchanelXx not much changed lol , finished as it started. Doesn't take much to point out that a certain escapist era of tv started having us follow male characters that come across as strong confident maybe a bit shady but are struggling with midlife crisis only to expose that they weren't the relatable but flawed character we thought they were but turned out to be psychopaths, its basic bait n switch. Yes alot of people unfortunately get caught up in the hype and entertainment elements and cant see the Forrest for the trees, 'wolf of wall street' is my pet hate for that but I think its either the writers fault or Scorsese tbf. most of those shows are going for a certain viewer but doesn't mean its alienating others for watching it, I'm sure theirs plenty shows that are probably more catered to a female audience that have plenty of faults but it doesn't mean men can't still enjoy them.

  • @janethompson7444
    @janethompson74442 жыл бұрын

    This analysis series has been absolutely incredible! You make some of the most insightful and original content on KZread and your eye-opening analysis of the influences and implications of popular and acclaimed media is so needed by the KZread film buff audience. Thank you for your efforts and incredible talent!

  • @deepcrows
    @deepcrows6 ай бұрын

    As someone who watched this show with my heart instead of madly scrambling to unpack the meaning behind everything I really resonate with and appreciate your analysis. I’ve never been particularly strong analytically and as a result I felt so damn stupid in the early stages of the show until it just clicked to watch it through an empathetic lens. Not that it was a conscious decision, the characters were just too beautifully human for me to fixate on the meaning of the garboogaloo beans

  • @Peringon
    @Peringon2 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps Maggie and Twin Perfect are two people who came to different conclusions and although we may appreciate one more than the other, it's on us to treat them like people and not corporeal representations of their takes.

  • @BradsGonnaPlay

    @BradsGonnaPlay

    2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely. The visceral hate that guy gets for what amounts to the work of a doctoral thesis is just awful. Love it or hate it, the implication that it’s some massive 6 hour waste of time is a hateful opinion on something very clearly borne out of love

  • @Luckodedraw

    @Luckodedraw

    8 ай бұрын

    It would be great to see Maggie’s take on all of this without her need to bring up twin perfect at all. Even though it’s not a complete one-for-one comparison, acknowledging the other essay makes this one feel like an angry rebuttal instead of an independent review. It didn’t need to be mentioned, did it?

  • @isaacmartin9835
    @isaacmartin98352 жыл бұрын

    I love that just as Twin Peaks is a show reflecting on the state of popular media of its time, MMFs criticism references Twitch streaming.

  • @SamanthaCZimmerman
    @SamanthaCZimmerman2 жыл бұрын

    gosh i love listening to mmf talk about films and television. makes me feel so smart lol

  • @stampede274
    @stampede2742 жыл бұрын

    Oh my god he had a Hulk Hand. He literally punched the embodiment of violence with a Hulk Hand

  • @christophersmaby8485
    @christophersmaby84852 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the moment about Catherine Coulson. Her voice in the scene you highlighted reminded me of my Grandpa Bill. They were so weak that they couldn't project, but the love that made their voice powerful remained. Strength and weakness simultaneously. I wish I had more documentation of him, especially at the end. Thank you (and Lynch) for being empathetic creators, it's helped me today.

  • @DrShak2009
    @DrShak20092 жыл бұрын

    The line about punching basically being the end of every super hero movie (and other genres of course) really makes me want a Squirrel Girl Movie. I love her so much, because even though she *COULD* just punch her problems away, a lot of the time she thinks about the problem and finds a better way to solve it.

  • @deetz2524

    @deetz2524

    2 жыл бұрын

    Then there is One Punch Man.

  • @marxmeesterlijk
    @marxmeesterlijk2 жыл бұрын

    Maggie is IMHO the best film critic on this site. If not just the best, period.

  • @WhoopsieDayZ

    @WhoopsieDayZ

    Жыл бұрын

    Did we watch the same video? I can't say I've seen any of her other video's. But this one above really doesn't hold up if you've actually seen the shows she talks about. Even in the few minutes she talked about The Sopranos, there are many mistakes.

  • @lamarhenderson8058
    @lamarhenderson80582 жыл бұрын

    I took an acting class with Brent Briscoe back in college in the '80s. He was a tremendous talent. I'm glad he had a pretty successful career as a character actor.

  • @rynthorn1551
    @rynthorn15512 жыл бұрын

    Describing Audrey Horn as "just wanting to be the star of the show" or just wanting attention. I cannot. I simply cannot. Are you kidding me, Twin Perfect. The wild thing is that if you're gonna go with a TV archetype, Audrey is much more similar to typical powerful male archetypes - she's cunning, shrewd, intelligent, ambitious. Why not make that parallel rather than a comparison to traits more often put onto women in a negative way but that don't actually really apply to her.

  • @testcase6997

    @testcase6997

    2 жыл бұрын

    I believe the comparison was between Audrey and Laura and in a meta sense about creativity and the story, characters needing to be part of the mystery like Laura is as she is the star of the show.

  • @Tamacat388

    @Tamacat388

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yea the way this video frames that is unfair imo. Twin Perfect doesnt mean attention in a literal sense. He means in the same sense that Bob kills people *just* for our attention as an audience. Its on a meta level of these tv characters only surviving if they have attention from the audience. He could and maybe did make the same argument to explain why Harold so desperately wants to keep Lauras second diary. As long as he has that he has a reason to exist to us the viewers.

  • @Henez89

    @Henez89

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Tamacat388 The irony is that MMF is criticising Twin Perfect's take as flattening the character, while flattening his interpretation to make it seem as sexist as possible. That's not the impression I got watching it. 'Wanting attention' was part of the meta reading, Audrey essentially making herself a major character through her actions. That doesn't replace or reduce her character traits in my view. Recently rewatched TP and these essays. Good times

  • @thefollowingisatest4579
    @thefollowingisatest45792 жыл бұрын

    The secret meaning of this video? It's actually about Maggie showing how many fits she can pull off. Spoiler: it's all of them. All the fits. Also watching this analysis right after seeing We're All Going to the World's Fair was a real one two I tell ya.

  • @Storyograph
    @Storyograph2 жыл бұрын

    I avoided watching Twin Perfect’s video because I was kind of afraid he was going to be right and that if I watched it, it would ruin Twin Peaks for me. Then you created these brilliant videos, and they just made me want to rewatch Twin Peaks again! This is such mind-blowing insight - my favorite videos on your channel so far!

  • @ContentWithJeremiah
    @ContentWithJeremiah2 жыл бұрын

    Love these videos. I never saw the connections to Breaking Bad or Mad Men, but The Return being an answer to prestige drama makes sense. And nicely cyclical, since I know David Chase has cited Lynch as an influence on The Sopranos. When I commented on the last video I got replies from weirdo Twin Perfect fans. I wonder if that’ll happen again.

  • @thebasedgodmax1163

    @thebasedgodmax1163

    2 жыл бұрын

    i'm here for the twin perfect NEEKs

  • @gt6808

    @gt6808

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dude, Twin Perfect solved the show - get over it. Just because you didn’t figure it out doesn’t mean you should be jealous.

  • @thebasedgodmax1163

    @thebasedgodmax1163

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gt6808 please tell me this is ironic. there is no way to solve a lynch project

  • @DichotomousRex

    @DichotomousRex

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gt6808 "Solved" yet left out everything mentioned in these two videos, that makes sense.

  • @DichotomousRex

    @DichotomousRex

    2 жыл бұрын

    Twin Perfect wasn't wrong, they just also weren't... complete. The show is deep and he only saw a very surface level code, "this = this", without seeing any of the context - which is silly, since it's such a meta show. Maggie provides a huge missing piece to the picture Twin tried to paint.

  • @pdzombie1906
    @pdzombie19062 жыл бұрын

    The finale also seems to point out the incongruity of revivals which end up retconning the series and ruinning the stories: If Coop saves Laura, there is no Twin Peaks. Great as usual, Maggie!!! Please give us your take on Inland Empire (since you mentioned it). Thanx!!!

  • @RamChop451
    @RamChop4512 жыл бұрын

    Dude that why do you hate hotdogs part really vibes with me. Went out to eat at buffalo wild wings with my friends who love the place, had a horrid experience. My order was completely wrong, the environment was loud and obnoxious and the staff were rude af. So when my friends invited me again, I said "No, that place is awful, I had a bad time last time and have no interest in returning" and what they took from that was that I just hated Wings. They repeatedly asked "why do you hate wings? Wings are good why don't you like them" Like what the heck. Also thank you for these videos, I loved them, and I now feel I have a truly grounded understanding of the franchise. I'm very grateful and appreciative of the effort you put in to these videos 💜

  • @petern326
    @petern3262 жыл бұрын

    Hasan always got that big ass plate of food, A+ video

  • @GaaraRules1
    @GaaraRules12 жыл бұрын

    I've really appreciated this series, Maggie. As someone who has not seen ANY of the other shows that you referenced, I feel like you still helped connect what I was seeing on screen but not fully understanding to the strong emotions I feel when watching Twin Peaks. I had seen Twin Perfect's video a while ago and found it interesting, but it didn't provide any closure. I almost never watch TV, why would this show mean anything to me if that was all there is? You added the human element his analysis was missing and it was such a delight to watch, thank you!

  • @lisacoronado9974
    @lisacoronado99742 жыл бұрын

    You brought such newness to the series for me and presented it with such care and love and brilliance. I adore this.

  • @3gn
    @3gn2 жыл бұрын

    You opened my favorite show for me from a perspective I've never seen. I feel like I've been blind all my life. Thank you.

  • @coolpen10
    @coolpen102 жыл бұрын

    I get so caught up in the narrative that I really missed everything about the meta narrative. This is so well put together!!

  • @Xondar11223344
    @Xondar112233442 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Man, I love the Twin Peaks watch. In The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer, written by David Lynch's daughter Jennifer Lynch, Bob writes "I DO NOT NEED THINGS, I WANT THINGS" so they were thinking about that stuff even back when the book was published in 1990!

  • @LukeExists
    @LukeExists2 жыл бұрын

    This brought back all the magic of watching The Return again. Such a refreshing and powerful perspective on the series. I got a lot out of this, and might go back to watch season 3 yet again. Thanks Maggie!

  • @Etsba_
    @Etsba_2 жыл бұрын

    Thoughtful, intelligent analysis as always. Deeply impressed by the way you blend insight, awareness, a sharp academic eye, humour and empathy with your videos. I greatly enjoy your work and appreciate your hard work and your unique perspective. Thank you Maggie!

  • @cheesecloth8
    @cheesecloth82 жыл бұрын

    Genuinely wonderful video, Maggie. Your analysis is by far my favorite of any of the ones I've seen. Thanks for always engaging with cinema so thoughtfully.

  • @hjelsethak
    @hjelsethak2 жыл бұрын

    50:07 Perfect in-character use of the word "jebaited." Mad Respect, Maggie. You're killing it. Keep killing it. Edit: Nice stache btw.

  • @jacquelinealbin7712
    @jacquelinealbin77122 жыл бұрын

    Between this and Cheyenne Lin's breakdown of Breaking Bad, this has been a great week for videos essays on the ~complex men~ of the late aughts

  • @MrMacattack11
    @MrMacattack112 жыл бұрын

    "Nothing personal." "...Started to feel a little personal, not gonna lie."

  • @zee9731
    @zee97312 жыл бұрын

    you got me to watch the entirety of twin peaks in between your first video and this one and honestly bless you because it was so good haven’t watched this yet but i’m excited and ily

  • @user-xy8zj7pd9r
    @user-xy8zj7pd9r2 жыл бұрын

    awesome video!! there are so many beautifully human moments in the return that people like twin perfect often miss when trying to assign a concrete meaning to twin peaks that I’m glad u focused on! 💜

  • @Brandon_Powell
    @Brandon_Powell2 жыл бұрын

    55:11 I don't think Cooper fails at the end. I think after he prevented Laura from being murdered Judy hid her in her own dream. But since it was Judy's dream it was more like a nightmare. I think Cooper's goal was to help Laura remember who she was so that she could acknowledge the terrible things that had happened to her. It's clear that living in a delusion wasn't doing Laura any favors. I think when Laura remembers who she is her scream is an acknowledgement of the bad things that happened her. From the moment Cooper enters the dream he begins to lose his grip on the situation. But because of the clues the Giant/Fireman gave him he was able to keep to the correct path. At the end just before he asks what year it is you can hear the noise the Giant/Fireman told him to listen to if you listen carefully. And that seemed to wake Cooper up. He seemed more like himself than he did through that entire sequence. And I think his question is what made Laura realize she was living in a timeless purgatory. I think it's very important to consider that when David Lynch was directing Kyle McLaughlin he told him that while he was in the Black Lodge he didn't perceive time passing at all. I think it was the same situation with Laura in Judy's dream. You can't counteract evil by punching it to death. That's just A cheap way to avoid counteracting evil. The audience wanted to know who killed Laura and to move on. By giving her life again David Lynch made sure that her pain couldn't be ignored.

  • @TheHolandos
    @TheHolandos2 жыл бұрын

    One of your best videos so far, from a very demanding Lynch fan. And I'm not saying this because your take on Twin Peaks is close to mine, but because rather than trying to stitch the gaps together, you're peering into them to ask one new question for every answer you find.

  • @ThePyroPM
    @ThePyroPM2 жыл бұрын

    I'm really glad I found your channel and watched these two videos of yours on Twin Peaks. Twin Peaks is one of my favorite pieces of media, and David Lynch is one of my favorite filmmakers. I love how he doesn't give the audience answers and instead encourages them to come to their own conclusions. I really enjoyed your analysis and it helped me put together some more of my own ideas/interpretations about the series.

  • @ayadean3491
    @ayadean34912 жыл бұрын

    LORD! this twin peaks 'mini-series' is fantastic! I absolutely love your take on it!

  • @alexzukoff
    @alexzukoff2 жыл бұрын

    39:20 "he stops at the TV screen" I literally screamed "YES" at my tv!! really enjoyed his analysis but this was my #1 issue

  • @BradsGonnaPlay

    @BradsGonnaPlay

    2 жыл бұрын

    He makes a ton of the characters into audience surrogates in his theory and uses that as a vehicle to connect the human experience as he believes Lynch sees it to the show itself. Respectfully I gotta disagree with you and Maggie. I found it deeply compelling that he can extrapolate a lot about Lynch’s real life hobbies, habits, and relationships through the lens of the show. You can’t do that by “stopping at the TV screen.”

  • @alexzukoff

    @alexzukoff

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BradsGonnaPlay Overall he does an amazing job of mapping out the meta elements and he definitely opened up the show for me a lot (although I also cringed when he said that Curious George shit lol). What I'm getting at is that what the show describes/reflects goes beyond the people involved in the "transmission" (audience, Lynch, etc.). It's concerned not only with the pattern of character desposability on TV, but also with the way a broader cultural mentality of numbness and atomization informs and is perpetuated by this pattern. Also it's pretty wack to gloss over the show's extensive discussion of various forms of abuse. Laura Palmer isn't a "golden goose" because she's a cash cow for creamed corn audience fodder; Laura Palmer is an open wound -- a vitally tragic sliver of hope in a cynical zeitgeist because her entire identity as a cultural figure is being a Victim Who Mattered. Also, I'm not sure how productive (or even ethical) it is to use art to try to discern personal details about the artist. I think Lynch is more interested in conveying a sense of Self as defined by the unique qualities of one's perception and the way one constructs meaning rather than placing the focus on framing himself as a brilliant and mysterious auteur to be worshipped and studied.

  • @BradsGonnaPlay

    @BradsGonnaPlay

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alexzukoff first: sincerely, thank you for your well-thought out response. Second: I agree. I do think a lot of what he says is representative of nothing more than what the TV show means to the TV show itself. That being said I think that’s only one analytical tool for the shows reception and how it relates to the world at large. The various forms of abuse that are highlighted definitely make commentary on real world issues like emotional abuse, filicide, and the turmoil in the immediate family that arises because of it- but again, I think him delving into the the show’s “golden goose” theory and meta-narrative is just a unique vantage point for more analyses by other critics and *I think* he makes that point very clearly a few times in the 3 videos he made on the subject. Overall, I genuinely appreciate that you didn’t just lambast his work and seem to have a good-faith interpretation of it. He’s not like a friend or something, yet I can’t help but defend those videos. They just represent a very pure and unadulterated love of all things Lynch to me. Even if I disagreed with him vehemently, I couldn’t hate his effort and analysis. You’ve opened my mind a lot just in this little exchange here and I appreciate that :)

  • @alexzukoff

    @alexzukoff

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BradsGonnaPlay Likewise! I agree with everything you said here. To be clear I love the Twin Perfect videos, he helped me make a lot of connections in my interpretation. That said, I would steer people to Maggie first. I think she nails the emotional core of the show, and I think the lens she uses is sorely missing in criticism at large. But overall I think the videos work really nicely as counterparts. Thanks for a great discussion!

  • @BradsGonnaPlay

    @BradsGonnaPlay

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alexzukoff totally! And of course no worries, we’re just both taking part in exactly what these two videos promoted: deep thinking and David Lynch 😂

  • @qmonk5108
    @qmonk51082 жыл бұрын

    Jumping up and down spinning in circles I was so excited and happy to see this analysis! I also recently rewatched all of the original series so that I could finally watched The Return and I was really struck by the similarities between Laura and Audrey and their relationships with their fathers. I watched the whole 'Twin Peaks Explained' video a while ago out of curiosity and I couldn't remember a lot of the details clearly after trying to take it all in, but I'm grateful you addressed the misogyny of removing the nuance from Audrey's relationship with Laura's case/the mystery. And reducing Leland to a simple 'vessel' and rending HIM the poor victim. On my rewatch I was stuck so much by the way that Audrey will play silly games, and seems like a classic example of a playful/flirty, perhaps even cruel and naive rich girl archetype. But there's a particular scene in s2 where Audrey is spying on her father's party and Leland comes in and begins to sob, and everyone at the party pretends he's doing a silly dance to ensure the investors don't realise what's happening in the town. And Audrey begins to cry as well. I think so many of the teenagers/younger characters in Twin Peaks (s1 & 2) are impacted by Laura's death and seeing the aftermath of such a horrific event and the way it is dismissed and treated by everyone in the town. Audrey is just a young girl trying to navigate learning that her father who she has known and loved and depended on for years is actually responsible for and eagerly participates in so much of the atrocities being committed in the town. And Audrey has to live with that realisation and still she's conflicted and still desires her father's approval. I think FWWM goes back to this theme, but I think also a massive theme of Twin Peaks that we get from I think Jean Renault (when he has Cooper hostage) is going back to Laura's murder being publicised, and how Twin Peaks was a 'nice town' until Laura died and Cooper came along. In that there were 'nice quiet people' and they were easily able to sell drugs and illegally basically put traffic young women. It's not that Twin Peaks was suddenly made 'bad' but that there are horrific things that nobody is willing to confront or admit to... and the duality/triplicate-ality? that exists means that many people you think you can love and trust can also be quite horrific, or even at times mundane, within the triplicate perception. And speaking specifically to trauma there's that complex relationship you have with people who have harmed you or been complicit. And so much of that does tie back to Laura. So I really loved the inclusion of Laura at the end and her scream. And seeing that even when you think you can resolve the trauma. Whether it's Dale hoping to be this grand, dramatic hero who can easily (as Dougie did) charge in and say the right words and suddenly be presented with a resolution, or Laura/Sheryl's character sorry I can't remember her name, in that last episode living a painful life. Where she is not a perfect easy-to-sympathise-with victim, where she isn't a clean, angelic figure, we see that upon her return to 'her' old house with Cooper there's no simple resolution to all of the pain that she's experienced and that has followed her. Also sorry this is so long, I recently watched The Return and I'm so excited to see people discuss it. There's so much to process and discuss, but I also found the scream/boy being hit scene to be incredibly horrific, and one of the most impactful scenes in The Return. I also liked that we saw once again the collective experience and the way that people are impacted by her scream and by that death. Within all of the silly and nonsensical, often heightened storylines and behaviour, I liked seeing weight and humanity given to a new and perhaps less 'consequential' character. With that sense that all of that pain and that weight matters. Just as Laura matters, we all impact one another, from the trailer park caretaker, to Audrey's son, to the woman and her son... Sorry for writing such a long comment, I've been thinking about Twin Peaks a lot lately and apologies if I just was repetitive or saying nonsense, but I really enjoyed the video

  • @naomistarlight6178
    @naomistarlight61782 жыл бұрын

    Isn't it interesting how the things called higher art or literature now were the smut of their day and we're enjoyed on a lower base pleasure level originally like Shakespeare and nude art, and it's only that time erases the subjective experiences that make low art 'low' and leave only the sublime and transcendental things making something 'high' art. Thus it's really only smut + time that makes art isn't it?

  • @lapochkinakatya
    @lapochkinakatya2 жыл бұрын

    omg thank you so much for this. I was so stuck in the "decoding" of the return, going over and over the mysteries that I didn't see the reflection of the real world in it

  • @gumbubble101
    @gumbubble1012 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making me feel less stupid about watching twin peaks. I legit thought I just never understood it at all. I've watched it twice and never picked up on how the TV show is about a TV show. I now think David Lynch goes to such an effort to be "crazy" that it stops me from just trying to watch it logically and forces me to watch it emotionally like you talked about in part 1. Or I am just stupid lmao

  • @tnylilrobot
    @tnylilrobot2 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are so great! Getting an interview with Lisa Coronado was next level. I love watching your videos and hearing your breakdowns. I really didnt get the green hand punchy guy from the last season until your video, It really helped me understand his character and place in the story. Youre engaging and thought provoking and I look forward to more

  • @cornettotrilogyenjoyer
    @cornettotrilogyenjoyer2 жыл бұрын

    thanks so much for the time and care you put into these analyses - your insights always challenge me and provide a fresh new perspective

  • @Blutzen
    @Blutzen2 жыл бұрын

    Any day we get a new mmfish video is a good day.

  • @ThomasBaxter
    @ThomasBaxter2 жыл бұрын

    This was a fun and brilliant analysis. Thanks so much to all involved with producing this!

  • @DeepKingBrine
    @DeepKingBrine2 жыл бұрын

    I can’t believe the quality of these videos!! Even as we talk about other characters Maggie is portraying characters flawlessly

  • @georgesmiley5880
    @georgesmiley58802 жыл бұрын

    Finally! We've waited so long for this. Thank you for your great work, Maggie!

  • @Ludonauta
    @Ludonauta2 жыл бұрын

    This proves that Twin Peaks can be about anything you want, be it a self aware tv show, a satire about the patriarchal dramas we've been enjoying since ancient Greece, or both.

  • @BeanMagoon
    @BeanMagoon2 жыл бұрын

    They way i actually teared up a few times throughout this video 🥺 TP means so fucking much to me, and your analysis is so on point. I adore how your talking points address the greater ideas to film and the world itself rather than then minutia of theories and explanation of the TP world. I felt like a parody of myself when, while tearing up and feeling genuinely moved, the Streamer Maggie admitted to doing the exact same (fantastic comedic beat and timing btw!!). Thank you for these videos. Seriously.

  • @tomnewton5994
    @tomnewton59942 жыл бұрын

    Raced to the comment section to call you… a master of your craft. Objectively this is the best video essay I’ve seen. God I love Twin Peaks

  • @Laizerdisk
    @Laizerdisk2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, really great video, Maggie! I loved my experience of finally watching all of Twin Peaks a year or so ago and was blown away by The Return. It's tone and style were both amazing and incredibly balanced despite the crazy shifts both would take at a moments notice. I definitely felt like Lynch was trying to make it obvious we were watching a TV show when watching The Return but the idea that it was a deconstruction of the modern prestige drama never even crossed my mind. Really recontextualizes a lot of moments for me! Fantastic analysis!

  • @GlassThirdEye
    @GlassThirdEye2 жыл бұрын

    Great job on both parts of the video. It's nice to hear a fresh perspective on these shows that have been analyzed to death.

  • @XyphileousLF
    @XyphileousLF2 жыл бұрын

    *The Scream* of *The Victim* may seem like a jungian/platonic attribution but setting it up as a set of stark narrative elements (as Lynch does) and delivering the words so perfectly slapped! I got chills all over again, cathartic and inspiring.

  • @dameonwalker8994
    @dameonwalker89942 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating. As a die-hard fan of Mr. Lynch (and fan of the other directors you appear to like) I found this as thought-provoking as it was entertaining. Having only stumbled across your channel recently I intend on looking back at some of your previous work and look forward to more in the future. Thankyou for your efforts.

  • @thespookymage6294
    @thespookymage62942 жыл бұрын

    Having seen both of your videos as well as twin perfects videos, your videos are hands down more satisfying. You aren't condescending to me or the other viewers and don't suck all the fun and weight of lynch's works. Great job!

  • @MarioJaker
    @MarioJaker2 жыл бұрын

    What a masterpiece this video is. You flawlessly articulated everything I loved about The Return, including stuff that I intuitively understood but never had the words to describe. Thank you for this 🙏

  • @technocore1591
    @technocore15912 жыл бұрын

    Haven't watched all of this but I was struck by the opening part about problematic men who are still sympathetic and it occurred to me that interesting, self-defeating part of the dynamic is that being in the entertainment industry, the people hired to portray these problematic men are almost by definition incredibly charismatic and likeable. Otherwise they would not be in the business. "I'm writing the worst character ever... bring me the most charismatic men to cast!

  • @jaynestrange

    @jaynestrange

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think playing a genuinely unlikeable shithead might be one of the most difficult types of acting. Cause on one hand you have the actors who can't help but be charismatic & at least likable on some level so people end up sympathizing with them by accident, then on the other you have actor who succeed at playing assholes because they're assholes in real life & it just makes the movie/tv show uncomfortable to watch.

  • @Brooklyn_Ann

    @Brooklyn_Ann

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jaynestrange And then there's the case when a good person plays a shitty character so well that they have to retire from acting because of the audience equating the actor with the character, like Joffrey in Game of Thrones.

  • @corban123100
    @corban1231002 жыл бұрын

    Honestly loved this so much, it was fantastic. I did however find it hilarious that similar to The Return, Maggie discussed Audrey in terms of original two seasons, but spoke more briefly on her in the return and then let her disappear abruptly. Felt thematic

  • @MATA.pervigil
    @MATA.pervigil2 жыл бұрын

    David Lynch is my favorite working artist, so I am happy to find such a thoughtful analysis of Twin Peaks. I was surprised that Lynch's work as a painter was not mentioned. This is understandable given your methodology. However, I feel that it was a bit of a missed opportunity to not mention the "clear cube" @ 45:05 as one of the many references to the work of Francis Bacon. Much of Lynch's macabre style has debts to Bacon and the expressionists. But, you did prompt us to use this space to address further references we saw. Edward Hopper and Rene Magritte feature prominently in "The Return" also. (If I had any knowledge about how to produce my own video essay, I suppose this is what I would talk about.) I don't know how to do that, so... Everyone, go look at the paintings! They're like 'paused' movies, but better. (Finally, I wanted to point out that I read through all of the comments (725) before posting this just to make sure I wasn't reiterated another user and... yeesh, some people. Must be a goldfish.)

  • @MaggieMaeFish

    @MaggieMaeFish

    2 жыл бұрын

    we had a line about him being a painter but ended up cutting it for time :)

  • @binkman67
    @binkman672 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed to hear your insights. And absoluetly loved the twitch stream parody. Keep up the great work!

  • @Agos226
    @Agos2262 жыл бұрын

    That’s so cool you got to interview an actual actor from the show!!

  • @paige.landers
    @paige.landers2 жыл бұрын

    I've been telling everyone, since first seeing Twin Peaks, that it's my favourite TV series ever, and always will be, but it's been hard to explain *why*, exactly. I mean, it's just the feel of the whole thing, you know? But your pair of essays managed to put a lot of it into words without diminishing it in any way, and I thank you for that. While I never watched any of those 80s nighttime soaps you found all those pretty obvious references to, I think it's fair to say that they were all as much a part of the cultural background noise growing up back then as the event series of today, so I'm sure I at least picked up on how different it was from the usual stuff. That said, I've always treated it as its own little self-contained universe of horror, humour, fear, and wonder. Whether or not it was referencing anything outside itself never seemed especially relevant. But that's me! I think what you've done here is fit it into its proper place in the Great TV Pantheon, making it more approachable for new viewers. And I sure will be sharing these videos instead of trying to explain it myself, badly! (Hmm. That's all more relevant to the FIRST part. Oops! But it applies here too, because I've watched very few of the giant series you refer to here, apart from Sopranos. I don't know, I lost interest in cop/crime/toxic guy shows ages and ages ago. So I definitely appreciated the whole Dougie arc and how his blank slate became a screen for others to project either their best or worst onto.)

  • @wreedb
    @wreedb4 ай бұрын

    These two videos about twin peaks were very thought provoking and helped me see twin peaks in a whole new light. The emotion rather than logic concept is something Id never thought of. The show is as much an experience as it is a story.

  • @garbagecan755
    @garbagecan7552 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for these two videos, they were an absolute treat. Lynch is one of my all time favorite directors, but I never really looked much into his personal life or allyship (if that's the word) beyond the obvious tone of his work so it's awesome to see just how great of a person he is all around. Like, I just can't praise this enough. It's a flawless homage to his work, a biting satire, a light documentary, and spot on critical analysis. If I had made this I would consider it my masterpiece, and I certainly hope you think of it that way!

  • @Wiklina616
    @Wiklina6162 жыл бұрын

    As a long time Twin Perfect follower I can say that they can come off as people who feel annoyingly confident in their bad takes. They often are so in love in their theories that they just dispel any possibilities of being wrong out of the gate. Really high „snarky male gamer nerd from mid 2010s vibe”.

  • @thewriter1008
    @thewriter10082 жыл бұрын

    Annnnnnd I need a rewatch. For me personally, the theme that jumped out most in Twin Peaks - the whole cycle - was trauma. Trauma of a community in the original run, that leaves a hole where a human being used to be, a hole that can never be filled. Someday, everyone who knew Laura Palmer will move on, one way or another. Someday, the people who experienced her death won't be around to tell her story, but the scar of her tragedy, the ghost of it, will always be there. Trauma of the individual in Fire Walk With Me - for obvious reasons. It's one of the most harrowing films I have ever seen. And for The Return, that trauma echoes into a cosmic scale, becoming a trauma of the world. I think this video helps me put that more into context. That Laura Palmer is not the only Laura Palmer. That violence ripples like a stone on a pond. That tragedy begets more tragedy, that the echoes of violence in the past, events that many of us weren't even alive to experience, still remain. Now, 25 years on, maybe we are the next generation of Twin Peaks' people who didn't know Laura Palmer. But the hole is still there. As is the hole that we saw from numerous acts of violence everywhere... And as always, I deeply appreciate seeing other takes - the feminist perspective here on how film and TV are gender roles play out in the peak (heh) TV era is something I'd simply never considered. But it's brilliant commentary and lends a lot of depth to this series - it's an incredibly insightful lens through which we can view this show. Edit: One more note I want to make: I think The Return especially is also really concerned with nostalgia and weaponizes it against the audience in a really interesting way. It makes a whole lot of fake-out moments with nostalgic elements and uses the expectation that it's going to do something to give the audience the warm fuzzies all the time. With Dougie Jones alone, it strings the audience along for 16 hour-long episodes while constantly hinting at the ways we could see the Cooper we remember from the original series wake up - good coffee, cherry pie, protecting the innocent, constant owl imagery, and each time it goes nowhere. But that makes the few times we do get our nostalgia validated really effective. "I am the FBI" made me almost stand up and cheer in my living room. I don't really know what to make of that beyond being a commentary on the wave of nostalgia reboots in film and television when The Return came out, but I noticed it was a significant motif all the way back when it was initially airing.

  • @ginny7000
    @ginny70002 жыл бұрын

    a lot of watching these videos places me in the same emotion headspace that i go into when watching tp, which i love, so thank you for making them! it's another great one

  • @snappystettner
    @snappystettner2 жыл бұрын

    This really deepens my appreciation for a show I already loved. I love the idea of Twin Peaks being art deconstructing art to uncover Truth. This is the best take I’ve heard, for sure.

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