For curious minds: "Adequate housing was recognized as part of the right to an adequate standard of living in article 25 of the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights and in article 11.1 of the 1966 International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights. Other international human rights treaties have since recognized or referred to the right to adequate housing or some elements of it, such as the protection of one’s home and privacy." (from the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights, United Nations)

@REALfish1552

6 ай бұрын

Adequate housing also includes renting, leasing, etc. Not just buying. In fact, renting is beneficial because you can put the maintenance on the landlord rather than trying to figure it out yourself when you likely do not have the resources or knowledge to do it yourself.

@maddhatter3564

6 ай бұрын

more communist propaganda. the world owes you nothing but to stay out of youre way.

@MatthewJohnHayden

6 ай бұрын

that would be me and all five of my house mates in the bay area right now @@REALfish1552

@brenttesterman3171

6 ай бұрын

Kinda Commie...

@gothboschincarnate3931

6 ай бұрын

Karra and Donna Douglas are gunna help me build a low cost, off grid house.

If someone builds a cabin in the woods and doesn’t monetise it via social media, does it even exist?

@ruben9912

5 ай бұрын

Not in the hivemind it doesn't! Another: "Did you know that if you built this thing without filming it, you'd be done twice as fast?" "Sure, but then I would have to pay for it"

@tomasviane3844

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@WhiteGeared

4 ай бұрын

Yea what about generosity? People sit on their money too much. These are the occasions that are bigger than your misery.

@simiamalum5487

4 ай бұрын

If I build a cabin in the woods... No, it doesn't exist. Nothing to see there... It's just woods. Just...keep walking. Unless you have cocoa.

@davidswanson5669

4 ай бұрын

Wow that’s deep.

The man's living my dream of wasting all my money buying a western ghost town and then destroying it through my negligence

@phoenixgirl70

Жыл бұрын

Yup. He could have just bought a “old west” Lego set and then smash it all apart. Instead I see he’s got some children helping with the labour too 30:13. Full villain mode.

@hazelsingh3887

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps, 5 million subscriber achievement???

@rav3style

Жыл бұрын

I feel he may have burnt it on purpose

@broodjebamibal

Жыл бұрын

How else will people know he is a BIG MAN

@bbrbbr-on2gd

Жыл бұрын

Destroying it, or making it better? /s

That one lady actually told the truth. Survival without the luxury of grocery stores, roads, hospitals etc is EXTREMELY difficult and requires MORE work than living in a community.

@screamingopossum7809

2 ай бұрын

It's why historically hermits were actually really rare. Not only the social need for community is necessary, but this idea that 'I can do everything myself' is so bizarre. Just because you can't make something doesn't mean you don't need it.

@brianthesnail3815

2 ай бұрын

That is a survival video. Trust me I have lived remotely in a farmhouse without modern heating and not much money. Its horrible and thank god I never have to do it again.

@bobinthewest8559

2 ай бұрын

The TRUTH of self reliance is that there is really no such thing… unless you are literally capable of melting into the environment with nothing more than maybe a knife, and living essentially like a wild animal. “Homesteading” is a different thing entirely… and (if one is completely honest) involves a myriad of various principles and approaches, aimed at the goal of becoming as self sufficient AS POSSIBLE. Rarely does anyone successfully live COMPLETELY “off grid”. You just do your best to REDUCE your reliance on it, by learning to do for yourself as much as possible. Some basic examples include: Gardening to reduce your grocery bill. Composting instead of buying fertilizer. Harnessing wind and solar to lower your electric bill (though this requires investment). Building less important structures (like chicken coops) with natural materials harvested from the land. Essentially, in the case of many of your homestead “projects”… the big “shift” is: Asking yourself if you can accomplish a goal by investing your labor instead of dollars. And… Asking yourself if you can design a system that harnesses nature in some way to provide yourself with a needed resource (like water, electricity, mechanical power, etc), instead of just connecting to “the grid” and paying for that resource.

@butameremortal9424

2 ай бұрын

@@screamingopossum7809 exactly. And what I don't know someone else will. That's when natural abilities and that would be shown.

@butameremortal9424

2 ай бұрын

@@brianthesnail3815 that sounds like the truth 😆

I grew up on Maui, Hawaii and during the 70's the hippies were well established and living the life off grid in the rainforests. They talked down the rest of the capitalistic population. They managed to live on next to nothing, mostly picking other people's fruit and vegetables. Building shack houses. But as I got to know them, many had rich families and were trust babies or growing and dealing drugs. After about ten years, they magically were able to purchase and develop these off grid properties. They had what was very expensive solar power and radiophones. Many managed to find the money to get utilities brought in to their properties. By the time they were older, they owned property, had lots of money to send their kids to private schools. They could travel and even got into government to help dictate the way they wanted Maui to be. In the meantime the average family on Maui struggled to pay to live on the island. Besides the hippies turned property owners, the speculators and developers all managed to get their share of the island and make millions of dollars and build their McMansions.

@MaggieMaeFish

3 ай бұрын

Oh my God, what a nightmare

@mallarieluvsgirls

2 ай бұрын

very typical colonizer behaviour.

@tribalismblindsthembutnoty124

2 ай бұрын

@@MaggieMaeFish LOL Oprah hired extra security to make sure victims of the fire couldn't cut through her property to get back theirs after the fires.

@bastage5932

Ай бұрын

Is there any more iconic duo than boomers and being the worst a person can possibly be?

@Baronnax

Ай бұрын

I remember learning about the King of Nepal effectively banning western Hippies who'd travel to Kathmandu to experience "oriental mysticism" and basically do a ton of drugs legally back in the day. I used to think he was a narrow-minded killjoy back then, but perhaps there was some wisdom behind the decision.

I grew up in a small off grid community. There were about 8-12 families (depending on the season/year). I've kept touch to the extent I can. Not one of them posts anything online... because they're off grid.

@viesturslinins3676

Жыл бұрын

So you are telling me that Amish families won't be posting any prank tik tok videos?

@jasperbonez2547

9 ай бұрын

are you telling me, we actually shouldn't know about off grid living?

@DeathnoteBB

9 ай бұрын

@@jasperbonez2547I mean yes? Otherwise they’re on a grid

@ThomWalbranA1

9 ай бұрын

PHONES AND CAMERAS are on a GRID SYSTEM NOW? can you explain what is meant when Normal humans say OFF GRID.? in your own words.

@DeathnoteBB

9 ай бұрын

@@ThomWalbranA1 You just explained yourself

My favorite off-grid/homestead genres are the “guy who just really likes bushcraft and thinks it’s neat” and “lesbians with good shoulders who mostly chop wood and shear sheep”

@Jane-oz7pp

Жыл бұрын

Ah, a NicoleCoenen fan I see

@Matrim42

Жыл бұрын

@@Jane-oz7pp I see you are an individual of distinction and taste.

@nailinthefashion

Жыл бұрын

​@@Jane-oz7pp oh my god, she's so hot ... it's like a real life Zarya .. subscribed ....

@overbeb

Жыл бұрын

Primitive Technology is the GOAT of bushcraft. Dude is starting from the Stone Age.

@jaymethodus3421

Жыл бұрын

Yea bro I have no issue if they’re wealthy or where they get their money, just don’t grift, don’t be dishonest or fake, don’t pander or condescend.

Sweet Jesus When my husband went blind leaving ME to keep us afloat we were plunged into poverty until I finished college and got a job worth a damn. Something I learned the hard way is that this content makes average middle class people blind or ignorant to what poverty actually looks like. I heard WAY too often “well this influencer only lives off ‘this.’ If I had the kind of money that off grid influencer has I wouldn’t be having this problem!!!!!!!!

@RepDreStre

Ай бұрын

What a top tier couple, I only wish if anything like that were to happen to me that my now gf sticks with me until we can get back up. You needed the money, but you already had something these people will never know and can't be owned or bought.

@hollybug-76542

Ай бұрын

​@AS-lv5fw Probably the most important decision one can make in life is who they take as a partner/spouse.

@missmoxie9188

Ай бұрын

@@RepDreStre thank you so much

@alltheflavors9673

29 күн бұрын

You are right. They are just salespeople grifting and lying. You did well for your family I wish you the very best!

“Sapphics renovating a camper to run away” is legit my fave category ❤

It's not about escaping capitalism, it's about expanding it into yet unmonetized land, via youtube and onlineshops.

@Pensnmusic

Жыл бұрын

Are you saying it's colonial expansion all over again? Manifest off griding??

@danopticon

Жыл бұрын

And don’t forget social media colonizing private life - in this case, appropriating and monetizing the viewer’s desire to escape capitalism, by showing you a fantasy video as the solution to that desire, thus delivering you (the product) to that video’s advertisers for $(x).

@lasarousi

Жыл бұрын

Monetizing every waking breathe sure is inspiring.

@lamecasuelas2

Жыл бұрын

It's about reconecting..... Maaaan!😂😂😂

@snackspositive

Жыл бұрын

​@@Pensnmusic kind of. it's an investment, an outlet for unproductive money.

As an Alaskan who designs engineering projects, it's hilarious to hear someone say a location 3 hours outside of one of the largest cities in America is too remote for concrete.

@pattheplanter

Жыл бұрын

Presumably, they will deliver the concrete to the part of the road that needs to be repaired so it is not too dangerous for concrete mixer lorries? Unless the hotel guests are coming in by helicopter, a usable road is necessary to the hotel business.

@asmodiusjones9563

Жыл бұрын

There are parts of LA that are three hours from other parts of LA.

@zljmbo

Жыл бұрын

@@asmodiusjones9563 they probably also can't get concrete without $160k/day and that is the reason for housing crisis

@JayJonahJaymeson

Жыл бұрын

@@zljmbo To be fair that was the quote for the chopper. Though if you told me folks in LA were building houses using helicopters I probably wouldn't be surprised.

@Kirkeyressa

Жыл бұрын

if you've just heard of a hydroelectric dam, his whole assertion immediately falls apart.

"I make figures out of my ear wax and earn around 500k a year", "I do verything myself", "my dads building firm did the work"

The very concept of an "off grid" influencer is hilarious to me. To be an influencer it requires you to have/frequently use/depend on the internet... The most griddy grid of all grids to have ever gridded. I know that they mean the power grid but when I think of "off grid" my mind always goes with the hermit interpretation.

Best friend bought into this stuff, joined a off grid community deal, turned out to be a cult, he fled in the night and came back home.

@sammiller6631

Жыл бұрын

What kind of cult?

@matildatheoboldt2261

Жыл бұрын

@@sammiller6631 yknow, i never really asked him too much about it as it may be something that he doesnt like talking about but what i gathered it was some new age bs cult that lures people in with all that crystal stuff and psuedo-eastern spirituality that was also a forced labor scam, like most cults.

@nomadben

Жыл бұрын

What was the cult called?

@notNajimi

Жыл бұрын

Jesus, good for him getting out

@CurbHopper111

Жыл бұрын

Yeah what's it called? I might wanna join the cult.

It's almost like the real key to "self reliance" is actually networks of mutual aid...

@curiousnerdkitteh

4 ай бұрын

Exactly like Burning Man's tenants lol. "Radical self-reliance" in a desert community sounds like what a Western country that is the epitome of white capitalism (basically, only the USA) would think people in a desert community would do. They have no concept of how communities where everyone is interdependent function ...even though cities rely on them too just it's easier to live with the illusion that people can be "self made" ... If you've never had to struggle with finances, marginalization or accessibility and rely on others for survival through various forms of support. Ironically, the people who got the most help (like many billionaires) and continue to get the most help seem to think they worked the hardest with the least support.

@critiqueofthegothgf

4 ай бұрын

it's very interesting how these self reliant off griders seem to have a vast network of connections they can depend on...

@MatsueMusic

4 ай бұрын

like a group of people living together and sharing possessions and responsibilities.

@Brentjr94

4 ай бұрын

"voluntary mutual aid".

@outbackgearforu

3 ай бұрын

That’s the truth. To survive in the wild you need a tribe,that’s how all the native people have done it,the idea you can be a lone wolf is bs

Bruh I literally met Brent back in July of 2023 when me, my brother and my dad rode up there on dirt bikes from a spot we were camping on only about 1.25 miles down the road from the ghost town (as the crow flies). There were plenty of other people up there when we got there, it was a tourist spot that didnt seem like it was struggling for traffic. There wasnt a crowd by any stretch but people regularly visit that place to poke around and look at whats left of the place (case and point me and my family). The church had been rebuilt with or covered in (don't remember which) corrugated metal and turned into a little theatre, no one else was allowed even near the opening of the mine (understandable) and the American hotel was only a bunch of wooden frames on top of a foundation which they were in the process of building.

I made the mistake of living with an individual like this who ended up kicking me out after only 3 months. Her and her girlfriend (who moved in at the same time as me) were part of a local cooperative. I quickly realized that these individuals had no idea what they were doing and were heavily reliant on local government grants for their organic farming operation. I planned to live and work on the farm, like previous residents had before me. Yet I was driven into isolating from the rest of the household when the girlfriend decided that she didn't like me and the house owner would have boisterous parties and meetings every other week. I ended up dog-sitting the girlfriends pit bull while her and the house owner would be out working, having meetings, and co-mingling (partying) with other individuals in town. I couldn't leave the house due to car trouble and neither of them were willing to provide transportation. I later realized that previous residents were cast out the same as me for not "fitting" into their mindset. They explicitly labeled themselves as "queer farmers", which I had nothing against, yet they were very exclusionary to me for not being "queer" enough. Also, I was freezing throughout the winter because the house they had built for the farm residents was built incompetently. There was no central heating. There was a furnace in the basement attached to just the kitchen. A wood burning stove in the living room with no water boiler. And the house owner did not provide adequate wood for the winter months, oftentimes going out into the snow to cut and gather green wood and rot wood at the edge of the forest. I was suffering immensely. It would get down to 50F indoors. Not to mention their water heater was frequently malfunctioning so I couldn't even have a hot shower.

@Em0tionL0rd

3 ай бұрын

I should add that the house and farm ran on solar power, with the in-house systems being scaled down and assumedly running efficiently for eco-friendly reasons. Yet, it was a two story house.. Built so poorly that it could hardly retain adequate heat. None of the outside doors had a secondary door, and a lot of the windows were single-pane. For some reason they thought closing the blinds every night would dampen the drafts (they did not). The house had so many insects due to this that I was constantly picking them out of my food.

@idontevenknow9758

17 күн бұрын

I am so sorry you went through that, thats really outrageous. As someone who is ace (aka part of the queer community) these people do not strike me as actual "queer" people they are supposed to be accepting but there are those who in the community who do use it as a front and victim card to take advantage of people. Its an issue in many communities, subgroups, etc. I cannot stand those kinds of people who take advantage like that or use that word like that. They sound like they are cosplaying off-grid but like the movie kind where they can be bohemian without actually being improvised.

I had an obsession with tiny houses too, mostly because I was wondering if it was a viable home ownership alternative since "the housing market is so unstable." This was until I realized that in many cases the cost seemed comparable to just buying a regular house in the suburbs, and the stories of most tiny house "homesteaders" almost always seemed to go something like "Yeah we make six figures and we used to live in a McMansion in a gated community. But after I sold my fifth startup, we decided it was time to downsize and get our kids back to the land." Or "I was kind of directionless after college/my divorce/my dream job of making custom surfboards in landlocked Nebraska didn't pan out, so my parents let me build a tiny house on their sprawling multi-acre property where I live rent free."

@ffbotha

Жыл бұрын

The problem is how highly customised and personalised a tiny house has to be in order to be livable. It's like all those videos Facebook feeds me about apartments with moving walls and other ways of using the same space as three or more different rooms. They look cool, but if I can afford to build a system like that I can afford to buy a bigger apartment (this is even assuming the rigging shown in those videos is actually possible in a real apartment building). Sure, there are people who have made it work on very low budgets, but they're often also the people more than willing to tell you how it took them 5 - 10 years to get the place really feeling like a home and in the relatively self-sufficient state you get to see it in.

@Mightydoggo

Жыл бұрын

This. You need to be very clever, very lucky or very priviledged. I live rent free in a winter hardened yurt that cost me about 15k€, which was pretty much everything I had at the time buying it. Tiny homes here start at 60k€ without the transport. Also only reason I could do this is because I found an elderly couple who needed help to keep their inherited property in check while they´re working in Berlin. Now they settled over to Berlin for good and me and 4 other people made a family of choice here, parting the rent of the property through everyone. We are super lucky because the couple agreed on a contract that passes the property on to us after a certain amount of money paid.

@becauseimafan

11 ай бұрын

OMG those "homesteaders" examples! 😂😂 "...in landlocked Nebraska" !!! 🤣🤣

@numb3r5ev3n

11 ай бұрын

@@becauseimafan It's born from a place of frustration. In the mid 2010s I was seriously looking at maybe trying to get a tiny house because it didn't seem like things would ever be stable enough for me to get an actual mortgage, but the idea of renting forever just seemed like such a depressing trap, especially when someone making the kind of money I make could have just bought a house 20 years ago before everything started to get bad and kept getting worse. Then I realized that unless you're living on someone else's land, or you can already afford land, the idea wasn't feasible. Fast forward to a few years ago and I was looking into the idea again and watching dozens of "Homesteaders" videos. And yeah. It's all people who can already afford houses and land but want to "downsize," or people whose privilege or life trajectory or other factors make them unwilling or unable to maintain or seek steady employment, or they were retirees. The idea of Homesteading is being fed to people in order to generate clicks and support on Patreon. It's not a viable alternative for a lot of us stuck in the rat race.

@theohiohousewife

11 ай бұрын

My goddaughters grandparents sunk, I mean sunk money into building her a tiny house so she could be on their property but private and could pick it up and move it. They were never able to connect water or septic because laws and then tried to sell it to get their money back…45K. Yes 45 thousand. I built a whole house that passed every inspection for that amount of money (property cost not included) and in the same century.

This modern "off grid" content mill is just white flight mixed with rugged individualism.

@titanuranus3095

Жыл бұрын

It really grinds my grids!

@mindlander

Жыл бұрын

Based.

@benhillman8384

Жыл бұрын

We never hear about the real off-grid folks... because they’re all ...off...grid 😅

@fredkrissman6527

Жыл бұрын

I think you can scratch off the actual "rugged indiv" based on Maggie's vid.

@hdervish2497

Жыл бұрын

I just want to be prepared for the fall of western civilization. I was raised on mid century sci Fi and I can't shake the notion that everything is going to go horribly wrong.

Saw a comment on an instagram van life post which perfectly sums it up ‘These c***s could literally gentrify being homeless.’ This applies to every alternative living type situation really. Van life, living on a longboat (more UK specific one), sailing boats.. it’s all just alternative ways of living that were previously a cheaper way of living that were somewhat accessible.

@chelsey8737

7 күн бұрын

Exactly! If somebody lives out of their car by necessity they're gross and lazy and financially irresponsible but if somebody does it by choice they're applauded as ingenuitive and determined and free?? How does that make sense??

My favorite are the van lifers who live in a van that is worth more than most people's houses and claim they do it to save money and reduce their carbon footprint, all the while driving said van, that gets 10mpg tops, all around the country.

Reminds me of an article I read recently about a woman who quit working so she didn’t have to be part of the capitalist system anymore. She kept talking about how she hadn’t spent any money in 2 years. Mind you, she lived for free in the granny flat of a friend in return for some light gardening and her sister would regularly bring her food and clothes. She might not have paid anything, but everyone around her certainly was

@DeathnoteBB

Жыл бұрын

I mean shit I’d love to live like that too but she’s blatantly still in the capitalist system. She’s just now exploiting people’s goodwill instead of being exploited. She just assimilated into being a capitalist.

@SuperPhunThyme9

Жыл бұрын

Those ppl dont understand that money is literally just a quantification of one's labor....no more no less. Their stubborn tendency to just ignore that obvious fact is narcissism in its purest form.

@garlicg4532

Жыл бұрын

@@SuperPhunThyme9 dayum that's a lot of buzzwords man. I love claiming things are the purest form of narcissism without backing it up. Honestly though mate, money has never been the quantification of someone's labor, it is, at the very core of it, a means of exchange that holds value because we say it does. How much you get paid is based on how little an employer can get away with paying you based on the availability of the labor or labor laws. You're living in a fucking fantasy mate.

@jht3fougifh393

Жыл бұрын

​@@garlicg4532 The person that was described DOES sound like a self-absorbed brat, though...? I don't think you could argue that kind of person is decent at all, especially in terms of their societal impact.

@garlicg4532

Жыл бұрын

@@jht3fougifh393 oh yeah absolutely

Just an FYI so people know. "Off-grid" only means that you are not connected to the power grid. My parents who live in a duplex in a suburban neighborhood and have solar panels that cover well beyond their power usage are more off grid than I am, but still technically connected to the grid because they put in any leftovers and take out if there is no sun and their batteries run out. I live in the middle of the woods but do not have solar panels yet, so I have to be connected to the grid if I want to use electronics, which I do. People always think I live off grid because I live in the woods.

"Leaving the box behind." Shows a fish jumping from one fishbowl into...ANOTHER FISHBOWL 😂

Thank you for this! I lived for 5 years in an "offgrid community" and realized it was just extremely wealthy weed growers running a retreat business front, funded entirely by young, poor college age kids they tricked into being tenants in their slum. It became clear when one of the growers invited me and another tenant to come up and trim. These people are slum lords but so much worse. When you see their life of luxury, complete with solar power, hot water, sun decks and jacuzzis, and then compare to the ramshackle powerless huts with no water or plumbing that are rented to the "tenants", the picture becomes clear. I realized I lived in a 3rd world larp community and got out as quickly as I could.

@quetzalcoatlz

5 ай бұрын

This took you 5 years to figure out?

@aenema22

5 ай бұрын

@quetzalcoatlz I knew what it was by the two year mark for sure, but tried overlook it. The rent was cheap enough. It wasn't until about 3 years in that they started denying tenants the use of the kitchen, shower and bathroom facilities and raising the rent multiple times per year. My rent started at 300/ month and before long it was raised to 400 and then 500. During a time in California where a one bedroom apartment was about 8 - 900. I stayed because it was cheaper than moving back to town.

@aenema22

5 ай бұрын

@quetzalcoatlz When I moved I knew there were growers up the hill and that the property was owned and managed by hippies running a spiritual retreat center. At first there were just two or three Buddhist retreats each summer, and those people were just there to walk around in silent meditation in nature. But after year two the board hired a new outreach coordinator who brought in these outrageous groups of weird pagan witch cults who would party hard the first night, and then perform creepy as hell rituals with dancing and screaming that all the tenants could hear. This was around the time the tenants started being denied access to the kitchen and bathroom facilities. At first it was only during retreats, but before long it became no tenants in the facilities at any time. Your question is legitimate and you're correct I was very naive to stay there as long as I did. I'm in a much better place now and look back at that time with a similar sense of critique.

@drkatel

5 ай бұрын

@@aenema22I appreciate your honesty. Sometimes we look back and realize we were idiots at one time. I also see no need to deny it or get defensive. So far I've managed to survive and learn from my past mistakes.

@aenema22

5 ай бұрын

@drkatel You live and you learn. About a year ago I was looking for a new place and briefly considered another off grid place. It won't be like the last one, I thought. The lady was very nice, but she made the mistake of giving me a tour of her pimped out hippie house first, and then showing me the dilapidated den of horror. I was not impressed with the cabin and was brought back immediately to my prior experience. This is someone who wants some desperate poor person to pay 900/month to live in absolute squalor, hours from civilization, so she can continue adding on to her pimped out hippie house. I now live in the downtown area of my town, 5 minutes walk from my workplace. Sometimes I miss the forest but I do not miss the unreasonable and illegal conditions put upon us under a guise of spirituality and environmentalism. The people who run these places are some of the most two faced, self serving manipulators I've ever seen.

I grew up in extreme poverty and I also grew reading the American girl diaries. I wanted to be self sufficient and live in the country. I think this was in response to seeing my mom work so hard to raise us and needing to depend on the gov and it still not being enough. During my teen years I went down a rabbit hole of researching tiny homes, living off grid and trying to find out how to farm to the best of my ability while never being on a farm. So I watched a lot of these videos to say the least. It became clear after a while that this was inaccessible to people like me. Due to the cost of land, building resources, and even knowledge. After I became disabled I basically stopped dreaming about off grid living at all. Which is another thing that makes that sort of lifestyle inaccessible. However, I am living in the country (small town under 1,000) and I enjoy going on nature walks when i'm not feeling too ill. That's about as close to off grid as I'll ever come and i'm actually fine with that.

@outlikeabitch

9 ай бұрын

Oh God I hate ghost town Brent with every fiber of my being

@foxbuns

9 ай бұрын

I relate to every part of your story and wish you the best of luck ✨️

@pauz9776

8 ай бұрын

leave them alone come -on stop picking on them we are all hunter gathers at least thse of us making under pick any number between1 to 100

@DJSockmonkeyMusic

7 ай бұрын

Same for me, except pre internet. I wanted to hand build a cabin and all that stuff. But I had no family backing, no training outside of academics and music, no savings, barely enough income to survive, so I ended up joining the army, which completely eliminated my desire to homestead. Sigh. You can't even start without several thousands of dollars. And that just was not my world. My world was paycheck to paycheck, second hand and government subsidies.

@SansNeural

7 ай бұрын

I grew up through the '70s and early '80s in rural, flatland Oklahoma with what I call "starving artist parents". We were literally off-grid at times when they couldn't pay the electric bill. Didn't have a telephone (landline) until about 1980. My mother did plant huge vegetable gardens and raised chickens and we kids did help her (not nearly enough). I'm sure we learned many good lessons about self-sufficiency and living off-grid. But the main lesson we (my brother and 2 sisters) all learned from our experience is: don't do it unless you have to. Three of us studied engineering and all of us made our way to middle / upper middle class. We've not discussed it much, but I suspect all of us would agree that a primary driving force behind whatever success we've had can be summed up by this moto: "Never Again!"

This is just like the 'van-life' trend where rich kids buy 100,000 camper vans and then pretend they're roughing it by sleeping in them and basically just being on permanent vacation. They mention ALL the struggles yet never once mention mommy and daddy's credit card in their pocket. 😉

@hollybug-76542

Ай бұрын

Yep.. have seen a big uptick in the trust fund/wealthy pretending to rough it in their expensive vans. Staying in National Parks, the local City Park (all for free) etc. Not really bringing tourist dollars anymore. It's become Glam to pretend to be homeless and needy. Making life even more difficult for those who are actually in need.

@Sinyao

Ай бұрын

People really don't understand how expensive van life can be haha. I watched a few videos on van life conversion of a box truck, and $100k is a low ball for a permanent live in vehicle. Still cheaper than buying a house in a city though.

"We're self-sufficient with all these modern tools and materials." The truth is, no one in this genre is self-sufficient; all part of a civilizational society.

@MenwithHill

29 күн бұрын

It reminds me of the quote about libertarians being cats - same deal, different aesthetic.

my favorite genre is "look, I'm here alone in the wild and my camera is moving itself"

@Cricket-mo4vr

3 ай бұрын

Gotta love when the camera is just magically filming by itself. Lucky break for these poor lonesome wilderness folks

@ThomWalbranA1

3 ай бұрын

not magic Einstein, it's 2024 and they made all kinds of cheap cameras and drones that can follow you, run routines like pan, tilt, zoom and timelapse. I bet even you could learn to do it, ask your mommy.

@ThomWalbranA1

3 ай бұрын

ever think about how TV interviews have a video of the guest from one angle and the host from another only one camera. After the interview, they then shot host asking the Question and nodding their head. THEY EDIT IT AFTERWARDS. How your favorite reality tv show, they are all scripted and rehearsed. Did you think that the camera guys were so good to never miss a close up on the other actor at just the right time to get response, and how many conversations in real life people never speak over the other one? answer never. recording is the easy part and only about 10% of the finished work, you know how to use a computer, y outube has 1000 of educational videos on how to do some of this magical stuff you speak of, as a rule i never make stupid comments until after i have researched and can provide evidence to support my claims. Something the girl who posted this should do but never does. 10 minutes and you find she is FOS, a ''CLICK'' addict.

@Cricket-mo4vr

3 ай бұрын

My goodness, I hope you feel better after getting all that off your chest Thom. My apologies for not using tone indicators on what I presumed would be obvious sarcasm. I didnt mean to upset you.

@michaelgelunas1113

3 ай бұрын

​@@ThomWalbranA1I often comment complete bullshit with the hope of getting a long winded response. It's a troll thing.

I once lived six months with out using money for anything. I did it by bumming around Austin Tx where it doesn't get too cold, illegally camping in the green belt, cycling everywhere, and relying on dumpsters for food and clothing. Even at my most self reliant I was still completely dependent on the industrial capitalist system. Whenever I see these off grid channels that aren't about full time farming and foraging I get very suspicious.

@shinobi-no-bueno

Жыл бұрын

This is a pretty romantic way to say you used to be homeless 😂

@stickyfox

Жыл бұрын

"Juan Apagato spends a lot of time wandering around town. He tried college for a while but it consumed too much time. So now he's looking for a job that doesn't involve much work. He rents a room in a large house and rarely sees the people he lives with. One of them is named Frank something..."

@stephenwilliams163

Жыл бұрын

@@shinobi-no-bueno Oh I was homeless for several years. This was a deliberate experiment to see if I was good enough at being homeless to not engage with the economy. Extreme freeganism. I was pretty full of myself back then.

@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore

Жыл бұрын

@@stephenwilliams163 😂. I was ready to hate with terms like “trustafarian” but the self awareness is hilarious.

@revolvertaco7493

Жыл бұрын

Real farming, like old school by hand farming is some of the most brutal back breaking work you can ever imagine.

You can't get fire insurance on old wood buildings like that in California, if you were wondering.

The Thoreau's mom doing his laundry line had me dying. Well played.

I still remember the bolt-of-lightning moment I had when I was watching dream house renovation shows at 2am on a slow night shift at the ER and realized the answer to the question "Why are these rich folks so obsessed with log wood cabins?" was "it lets them cosplay being salt-of-the-earth working class"

@kappadarwin9476

Жыл бұрын

Eyup They want to be seen as "working class" or at least what they perceive is working class. Because lets be honest you need money and lots of it to run a farm. Its all for the sake of avoiding tax increases on their wealth. Why else would Elon Musk pretend to be an "average joe"?

@idontevenknow9758

Жыл бұрын

It lowkey reminds me of the foundation of the cottagecore theming we see a lot. I learned about it a while back cottagecore was wealthy people in the 1700s would wear what they deemed as "peasant" clothes because they enjoyed what they felt was a simple life and more attuned to the land. Today cottagecore has the same vibe but I see a lot of people who are actually unwealthy embracing it with thrifting clothes and crafting art (you still have clearly wealthy people using the style of course, those English cottages are not cheap) The off-grid movement in a way is them cosplaying as the hardworking people who live in rural communities but almost in a way what they think rural people live like. in 1700s peasants were NOT living such dainty free lives, let me tell yah. Farmers in 2023 America definitely not so easy and cozy.

@sholem_bond

Жыл бұрын

the siren call of Hameau de la Reine

@somedudefromTX

Жыл бұрын

It brings me a small amount of joy knowing how much self-loathing they must feel deep down inside to drive them to such ridiculous extremes

@BType13X2

Жыл бұрын

@@idontevenknow9758 Farmers in america if they are anything like my uncle up here in Canada Make a couple hundred grand a year and then lose most of that paying for next years crop, maintenance on machinery, animal welfare, shipping their crop, storing it etc... When its all said and done his couple hundred grand turns into like 40ish for the whole year for him and his wife who full time it. I try to help as much as I can, being 2 hours away and a welder I find that there is no shortage of stuff to be mended, and even then helping him I feel bad about the whole situation, he could have it so much easier without the land, yet he does it cause he loves it.

I've never went to down the rabbit hole, but being an off-the-grid influencer always did seem like an oxymoron.

@aplacetoexist

Жыл бұрын

Truth... For me, I was mostly trying to find enjoyment in my life, and since I liked editing videos and doing bushcraft stuff, I figured "Why not".

@JDWonders

Жыл бұрын

Someone should make a KZread channel based on being an Amish person doing Amish things. Nevermind all of the technologh required to make such a thing possible. Just don't think about it.

@firefloweramaranth

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it used to be "going off-grid" meant disappearing completely, untraceable, like you're on the lam; it was a survivalist thing. Now it means having no utility grid connections, and the people doing it are hippies whose parents can afford $100,000 of solar panels, batteries, turbines, toilets, and other kit.

@spiralswithinspirals

Жыл бұрын

crowdfunding “finding your bliss”!

@jonathanlochridge9462

Жыл бұрын

I guess it partially depends on how you are going about it. But, for the most part most of the people you would be "influencing" would probably be wannabees, scared, or in the clouds. Running stuff off your own solar, wind, or waterpower isn't too bad. I personally view the not completely off grid market gardener types as being a lot more informative as those who are trying to achieve complete independance. As well as the more community village focused ones. If you want to live off land in someway you have to actually treat it as a business and make money. Since just trying to be completely self-sufficent will put you on a slow decline.

My grandparents lived through a economic depression. My mother was a young child. They had nothing and never threw anything away that did not break. Odd thing is the save and never want mind set followed my parents through raising 4 of us kids. Off grid today is very expensive. It would cost you less to rent a house in the suburbs. And grow a vegetable garden. You must have electricity, internet, indoor plumbing, and a kick ass 4x4. A tractor and other farm equipment. Real off grid means that you start with nothing but do not starve and you have a dry place to sleep. My grandparents did not have electricity until 1962. They never had a phone. They never had a pump put into the well. I spend hours daily pumping the water up my hand during canning season. They farmed 20 acres and their house was on an additional 1/2 acre. With 5 kids the 20 acers in crops was just about all they needed. Once the kids were grown grandpa sold much of the crop at the farmers market. He made so much that he bought a new used pickup. Up into the late 1960s he had a used 1947 Ford car that doubled as his truck, and car to give grandma a ride to church. He still plowed his fields with a mule into 1970. You want real off grid? Look at what your grandparents or their parents did. I will never forget the summers my parents sent me to be free labor to the grandparents. They were off grid before it was fashionable. My grandparents lived off grid. My parents were raised off grid. I have a house with lights that turn on with a switch. TVs and internet. Yes I pay a company to deliver electricity. Trash pickup. And taxes to keep the road maintained. Which they seem not to be doing. But I have for a residential area a large garden. And a small green house. If they turned off my electricity I would still survive. If grocery stores went belly up, I would still eat. But late at night, I would miss those odd weird free movies that are on the internet. My cell phone sits in a holder that I made and it is mounted on my kitchen wall. Just like the phone my parents had when I was growing up. But that phone had no message service. Want to be off grid in 2024? Think long and hard about it. Do you really want to go off grid? No such thing as free. Want electricity? That is going to cost you rather you have a generator powered by solar, wind, or water. Might be cheaper to stay connected to power company. Want free water? A well is expensive and a maintenance issue. Food? Live stock and vegetable garden require an investment and maintenance. You might be a master at carving up a holiday turkey. Can you take a live one, kill it, make it ready for cooking?

these are not good references to actual homestead youtube, you just picked rich people lol

I live in rural Montana and my partner (a veteran themselves) used to deliver oxygen for the VA. The amount of people who move to the literal middle of nowhere without even road access, on purpose, and then complain about how long it takes health and emergency services to reach them during a blizzard in January is honestly shocking.

@My-cat-is-staring-at-you

Жыл бұрын

Those people are their own category of Karen.

@Pistolita221

Жыл бұрын

No one understands how complex the logistics of modern amenities and health services are. It is literally mind-breaking to try and understand how those systems changed over the last 100 years. WWI was fought with SWORDS and CANNONS! MFers didn't even have vaccines, the infections were more deadly than the fighting. MRE's are not comparable.

@forrestunderwood3174

Жыл бұрын

I'm shocked.

@Bosihiov

Жыл бұрын

That type of thing annoys me to no end. I’ve moved into a city with my husband, but the vast majority of my family is pretty rural and they “like” it that way, until of course the reality of living in the middle of nowhere strikes. “Why did it take the ambulance 45 minutes to get Bobby Joe to the hospital?” Because we had an ice storm and the nearest hospital is 25 miles away! What did you expect to happen?

@ashleyhamman

Жыл бұрын

I remember talking to an electrologist who lived in a small down an hour+ from the fringe of the city, and how she loved living up in the sticks so much. Then she would also complain about how few clients she had and how she was barely scraping by...

Hello there Maggie and anyone reading! 👋I am that woman at 3:53. I'm glad people have appreciated the transparency! Just for the sake of clarity, I do not live off grid and have never claimed to live off grid. I am hooked up to the electric grid, running water, and a septic system. The context of this clip was referring to restrictions around obtaining & parking a mobile home, as well as leasing land because I could not afford to purchase land myself. Just in case anyone is doing their own research on this topic I don't want anyone to be misinformed 🙏

@SophiaAstatine

Жыл бұрын

Same goes for Brent, but Maggie's journalistic integrity proves to be what is actually off grid. Don't let yourself be beat down by her disingenuous presentation.

@KingBobXVI

Жыл бұрын

@@SophiaAstatine - "Don't let yourself be beat down by her disingenuous presentation" Maggie is literally using her as an example of someone who is forthcoming and transparent about the underlying finances, that's not "beating down" nor is it disingenuous...

@SilkBuckets

Жыл бұрын

@@KingBobXVI definitely cherrypicked lol

@Le0mas

9 ай бұрын

@@SophiaAstatine Somehow I think you either didn't watch the video or stopped at the precise moment your favorite was negatively mentioned

@sceneshootergirl88

9 ай бұрын

you look like a cool person :D

No it wasn’t. I’m not a fanboy because I always knew there was more to the story, but you typically can’t get fire insurance on vacant properties. Just think, because insurance companies have: it’s a property with an incentive to burn, AND it’s REPLETE with code (safety) issues. It’s been dormant for 100 years. I’d be stunned if he could find an insurer. He likely wasn’t irresponsible. EDITED TO ADD. Insurance was likely, not just available,but necessary, when he got a Certificate of Occupancy for the B&B. The CO is only granted when the structure meets code (read: inspections) and is safe. You can have no guests without a CO. The hotel was likely not ready for guests or a CO, and therefore uninsurable. A CO would have been required before the insurer would have insured.

Now as a southern person that lives in a tiny home and setting up my own tiny home, I wouldn’t be able to make it if it wasn’t for my friends and family’s help and support.

Shout out to stealth camping with Steve. He's an awesome guy and gives good advice for the unhoused

@partridgestorm

Жыл бұрын

A wonderful guy! And, might I add, one of the only KZreadrs that I've seen, next to James Stephanie Sterling, creates regular content absolutely without ads or sponsors!

@nibblitman

Жыл бұрын

He is such a generally wholesome guy

@davethompson2580

Жыл бұрын

He also never professes to be an off-gridder or anything. he's comfortable and he doesn't hide it, he just likes having those little adventures

@bengallup9321

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, seems like a very modest and wholesome dude.

@atherwitch

Жыл бұрын

Steve is awesome and the most down to earth guy on KZread I think. Must protec lol

My parents moved us to the country to try to farm when I was 11. We tried our hardest, gardening and raising animals and harvesting crops and all that. They sold it when I was 19, and in all those years, we only managed one or two meals where everything we ate was from our farm itself. And it was BACKBREAKING. I want to be into off-grid video content, but most of the time I just hide my face in my hands while they commit some colossal city-slicker blunder I'm intimately familiar with, that someone with experience could have warned them about well in advance.

@asmodiusjones9563

Жыл бұрын

Moving from a city to a rural area to try your hand at farming is only a good idea if you get seduced by the last wolf in Japan and are left alone raising your two kids who have his shape shifting abilities (that would make them some sort of “wolf children,” I guess).

@ThatCrazyBookWyrm

Жыл бұрын

​@@asmodiusjones9563 Or if you inherited the farm from your recently deceased grandfather, and it's located right next to a cozy town packed full of young singles and little magical sprites (but also under danger of industrialization from a big corporation that only you can take down!)

@SaraBanartist

Жыл бұрын

City slickers should stick with looking for Curly's Gold

@elvingearmasterirma7241

Жыл бұрын

Yea there is a reason farms in south africa stay in families. Youre raised to work on a farm as soon as youre old enough to lug stuff around. You grow up doing manual labour. You live on that farm and often inherent it. Rinse repeat.

@ohpaleone

Жыл бұрын

I grew up on a working farm, we always called those people ‘hobby farmers’ because there’s no way you can support yourself by farming at that scale.

We recently moved onto a few acres in the middle of nowhere in a crumbling old house that we're restoring, and trying to produce as much of our own food and household items as possible; there's absolutely no way any of that would be possible without family and community. Edit to add: my wife and I both have "in town" part-time jobs, we borrow equipment from family on a near-weekly basis, and various cousins work in skilled trades and do stuff either at a steep discount or for barter. We could only afford the house and land because the house was worthless as-is.

I live somewhat offgrid. I still have municipal water though. I also work remotely in another country, pay taxes, buy groceries, buy sim cards for internet, and also have an open bank loan of 45k. For my family, it was to escape the city and even the country, so we moved to greece, bought land, built out a container (with tge help of contractors) and enjoy a much simpler life. Now buy my course /s

As a real, down-to-earth homesteader, I'm so glad to see someone call out fakes and grifters in off-grid living! These rich wannabees don't understand the struggle -- ever since my industrial-grade generator exploded and took out most of the local lumber supply in the ensuing fire (so much for the pristine forest location, haha) I've only been able to keep warm by burning stacks of $100 bills that my daddy gave me as a going away present. Donations welcome btw

@lovesick_loser

Жыл бұрын

omg i had a similar experience! and now the locals of the nearby village are blaming little ol' me me for "eco-terrorism" when im LITERALLY living the cleanest and most sustainable* lifestyle!!! JUST because i dump my 100% home made charcoal filtered nuclear waste in the local water supply?? ugh!! *clean and sustainable in comparison to if someone owned an oil rig thats constantly on fire AND leaking.

@phoenixgirl70

Жыл бұрын

@@lovesick_loser Omg I swear every damn commercial I see or hear or when I used to watch these people was the word “sustainable”. It’s used for freaking everything now! I’m waiting for “Du Pont. Sustainable.”* Teeny tiny print: *1% of Du Ponts recyclables are actually recyclable. It’s all such bullshit to make people feel good buying their crap. Only everyone’s using it.

@SofaKingShit

Жыл бұрын

In the real world living off grid is just endless chores pretty much like it was back in the 1800's.

@lasarousi

Жыл бұрын

You forgot to link your patreon .

@BType13X2

Жыл бұрын

@@SofaKingShit Yes it is sort of like being a 1 person business is the same thing. So you choose your struggle.

I remember when the Tiny house thing was starting, it was a small group of people online who enjoyed trying to make an efficient, small footprint...which was then hijacked by the real estate market and mobile home manufacturers so they could sell you a shitty, small, not-at-all optimized mobile home and charge you three times as much because it's a TiNy hOuSe

@Crypto-fj5gt

4 ай бұрын

Exactly. I have a tiny home, but It was build by local Mennonites for less than 10K. If anyone is looking at tiny homes, see if you can find a local carpenter to build one, convert a shed yourself, or build one from scratch. The tiny home industry is largely a scam.

@yemo34

4 ай бұрын

A fully manufactured home can cost less then 60k to build. You can "off-grid" them. But with normal utilities they are fully featured homes that will last till you're 80. I'm sorry, but there's a'lot of people who want to own a home now. Not some millennials platonic idea of a home, from sitcoms they watched on Disney channel in the mid-2000's.

@kphaxx

4 ай бұрын

I live off the grid in a tiny house, in a way. The grid is society and the tiny house is my mom's basement. I sometimes help my mom carry groceries in, so I earned my food so you can say I'm self reliant too.

@iRelevant.47.blacklisted

3 ай бұрын

@@kphaxx Agree. The key is the unplugging from society part, never mind the grid.

@0Clewi0

3 ай бұрын

@@yemo34 I doubt that's true where I live in, or at least not a proper one within regulations, which are reasonable when earthquakes over 8 happens in each generation.

The sad part is they’ve sold this idea to so many down trodden people. I’ve known young women with absolutely no skills completely convinced that they and their children were going to be living in a custom tiny home in no time. The furthest I’ve seen any of them get is buying a leaky vintage trailer that sat in storage.

Every off grid story is like "You won't believe this couple's secret to off grid living" and it always turns out to be that their parents paid off their student loans and let them live at home rent free six months of the year while they save up to travel in a van.

@K9Clyde

Жыл бұрын

Then they "work" at a cafe editing and uploading content.

@barnz3000

Жыл бұрын

Look at our tiny home, with the awesome view. On my parents $20,000,000 waterfront farm.

@tpbforlife3323

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, only privileged people want to live in a van, because they have the option to leave when it gets boring after 4 months

@marxfish

Жыл бұрын

Propane tank exploded? Then there's a lot of bombs in America's backyards.

@raaaaaaarr

Жыл бұрын

You'd find that for most people.. Or a lot at least. If you live in Vancouver bc, your parents go live in the states, don't fund your school and you gotta pay 1300 rent as soon as you're 18 like me, you see just how much privaledfe has to do with making it in life. I personally can't go to school because I gotta work full time just to afford rent. Life sucks but living in a van is the only way I'll ever be able to get an education. Once I'm like 40 I can afford a van x. X ugh

Housing isnt a human right as that implies you have a right to the labor of others. You do not as slavery has been illegal for quite a while. Is housing too expensive? Yes completely and totally. Is housing something you deserve simply because youre alive and a human? No, not at all because someone has to build that house and they deserve to be compensated for their skill and labor and for generating things for society.

Totally being an insurance geek here for a second: you cant get "fire" insurance on buildings without there being an actual fire department nearby. Doesn't look like there is a fire department anywhere near there let alone a fire hydrant...or even water. So his only option was to buy some marshmallows and make smores.

@horntx

4 ай бұрын

Additionally it really isn't that surprising that the building waited until people came around to burn down, especially because clearly he hooked up power (there is a ceiling fan on in the footage). 100 year old wooden hotels most likely do not have electrical wiring up to code to not cause fires so it really isn't a shocker the building waited until there was power hooked up to catch fire. I am not saying that asking for money from people on the internet was justified or that he the fire was definitely real, just that none of the arguments in this video are very compelling.

@bite-sizedshorts9635

4 ай бұрын

We have a fire department not far from us, but we just got dropped from our homeowners because there are too many of us in the area with insurance with the same company. If a disaster hit, such as a super wildfire, they would have to pay out a lot of money. Insurance companies are designed to never lose money. They hate to lose money on even a single person. We've had insurance with Nationwide for almost 20 years, paying a ton of money every year, and then they drop us like that. Wealthy people self insure everything so they only pay when something happens. Screw the insurance companies.

@maverick9708

4 ай бұрын

​​​@@bite-sizedshorts9635insurance companies are the kind of person who says "no offense" then rips into you with the most savage personal insults you've ever heard; only to realize that while you were flabbergasted they also stole your wallet and told your friends that you wear diapers

@jerrylindgren7828

4 ай бұрын

I believe in the same video where it burns down, or one of the consecutive videos, Brent mentions that it burned down shortly after they hooked the power up. He specifically mentions the old wiring being the cause of the fire. It was not caused by a propane tank explosion, like Maggie asserts in this video. The accusation is totally okay though, because she put up a disclaimer that she was not accusing him of burning it down, while accusing him of burning it down. Brent expresses a lot of guilt for the fire throughout his video catalogue and clearly felt bad about it.

@MorpH2k

4 ай бұрын

Even if he was able to get fire insurance up in Cerro Gordo, how much would he actually be able to get from them for a 150 year old building with a second floor that isn't "structrally sound"?

Reminds me of the “I built my dream van life home for only 5000$” meanwhile their parents are professional contractors and have loads of “recycled/leftover” wood and nails and power tools to build it. But hey In the end they can play a peaceful song with a candle lit and drink a cup of coffee while living in serenity.

@crimestoppers1877

3 ай бұрын

First you have to get off your butt and start swinging that hammer instead of looking at it.

@FreeManFreeThought

3 ай бұрын

@@crimestoppers1877 Long before that you have to have the means to afford all the tools and stuff needed. Most people don't have that these days... and if your response is "but everyone I know does" then congrats, you are privileged.

@crimestoppers1877

3 ай бұрын

@@FreeManFreeThought I buy my tools cheap from Harbor Freight . I shop at Lumber yards instead of over priced hardware box stores. I learn each trade involved via Free KZread videos. If you can read and follow instructions that's all you need for "privilege". My computer I built from old junk parts and I use Free non spy Linux operating systems. No i-Junk or Windoze here. My internet access is via free open access WIFi WAP's almost everywhere. It does require effort to get off the butt, stop watching TV and go outside and spend a few hours per day actually doing physical labor. A MAGA success story. Not a victim.

@Martin-mb7yb

2 ай бұрын

​@FreeManFreeThought Your both right. And if you loan out your tools they will be destroyed or never return so that complicates our issues of not having access to tools and resources. The truth is we are losing the people with knowledge to old age and at the same time being squeezed financially for everything. If my generation had a garage to work on projects in they would try and move into it to get ahead on bills. You have to own property to have a place to work on stuff or store tools. The generation coming up now is living In the new USSR and will experience the same events as Russia did in the late 80s early 90s.

@adorabell4253

2 ай бұрын

@@FreeManFreeThoughtnot privileged, just work in the trades. Almost everyone I know works in the trades. When my husband and I moved in together our decor was DeWalt

There's been a phenomenon with the aristocracy around 17th to 18th century where they had artificial cottages or even villages built outside their pallace. They'd change to a peasant's clothing and go on pretending to be farmers etc. You know "getting in touch with nature". The rich off grid people seem awfully similar to that.

32:50 - I'm pretty convinced that *_every_* rich company owner thinks that the work done by the employees was done by the owners themselves - "self-made men" who managed to make themselves rich by the sweat of "their" brows... well, the sweat of *_other people's brows_* actually, but, hey, don't be dissing the "self-made men", eh. Great vid, awesome content, excellent humour. Earned you a sub.

Tiny home video are notorious for "this early 20's couple built a house" and then five minutes into the video "we rent/live on our parents property"

@jamesp1389

4 ай бұрын

Bahahah 😂 yep

@eamonster2708

4 ай бұрын

Tbh what's the problem? They did build a house, and if you're going to build a tiny house to save money, you build it in the most convenient place you can. Keeps the family together for support network and costs low for everyone. Also inb4 "what privilege" usually they are somewhere land is cheap. It's a common advantage and silly that you people seem to expect some sort of penitent acknowledgement that "gee whiz I'm sorry that not everyone has the resources to build a fucking shack on land that isn't theirs."

@obscurereference8798

4 ай бұрын

That sounds like a problem with capitalism and the housing situation and not with the tiny home builders. I would guess that most, if not all, of those people were not looking at living in their parents backyard in a tiny home as their ideal setup.

@AgxntOrange

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, this isn't the burn you think it is 😂

@mirrepoix

4 ай бұрын

@@eamonster2708 i feel like you maybe haven't seen the types of videos the person is talking about. it's not that it's wrong to build your tiny home on your parents' property. positing it as a situation where you did the whole thing effortlessly in your 20s and everybody else can too, then weaseling in the information about the assistance you actually got is where it gets sketchy. that's not demanding "penitent acknowledgement" that's bootstrap mentality repackaged in a 'sustainable' label and yes, it is both notorious and worthy of condemnation.

I feel like a lot of these people wouldn’t look so hypocritical if they just relabelled self reliance as community reliance. Friends and family helped? Great! That’s awesome that you are in a community able to help you achieve the life you want.

@eyesofthecervino3366

9 ай бұрын

I think community reliance is the far better goal, tbh. Like, when I say I want to be "self-sufficient," what I really mean is something more like, "I want to be less dependent on exploitative institutions, so I'll have the time to live my life, follow my conscience, and to invest in my community _and help them get self-sufficient too!_ I want to help build strong local communities, so people are able to rely on each other instead of on large systems that are openly squeezing them for every drop of time and money they can get. Part of taking care of ourselves is taking care of each other, and part of taking care of each other is taking care of ourselves. We have to build a mindset that encourages both.

@Vizivirag

8 ай бұрын

Agree. We were always community-reliant, there is no shame in doing what our species has always done!

@DimT670

8 ай бұрын

@@eyesofthecervino3366 you do realise that you have just reinvented society right? And the larger systems you speak of are literally the same systems you say you wanna build just scaled upwards? What exactly do you think large systems are if not people relying on each other, who exactly runs , lets say the transportation system, if not people, and for whom, if not other people Btw im not saying said systems are automatically good. But same ways they have issues so do the scaled down versions. Like, the state can be exploitative and so can be your family/local community. Its not an either or Plus community is well and good but when something is solely community based people fall through the cracks.Imagine the worst person you can. Now imagine them sick. That person deserves care , but people in the community usually wont help them (and they shouldnt have to), because no one like him. Thats why there are rules and systems in place, and why the local community approach can function in addition to larger systems, not instead of them You dont get out with politically engaging with the larger systems im afraid, it doesnt work this way. It almost never did in fact, for basically all of human history

@theCosmicQueen

7 ай бұрын

the problem is she's saying that off grid = self reliant (and other unrelated things). when those two terms are not in any way synonymous . Only in her head. She's basically a big mouth and not a big brain.

@michellewitt2071

7 ай бұрын

@@Viziviragwell-said

Imagine finding that same brent in tasting history...

@headintheclouds02

10 күн бұрын

Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

This is such a good video. The content is great, but it its the perfect amount of snark and sarcasm really make it shine. Never seen your channel before, but I surly will again.

I loved the quip about the fire truck response time. I grew-up on a dairy farm and get so frustrated with the romantic idyllic views of rural and even farm life held by a lot of people who never lived. A lot of people tell me that they're envious of my youth because "it's such a better way to grow up" whereas the reality was being overworked from a young age (well before teenage) and social isolation which has a huge impact for many. The self-reliant issue was one that I directly experienced. Around the time I hit preteens the social shift which for years had meant the dwindling number of relatives who helped on the farm outside of their day jobs and the neighboring farmers with whom we worked mutually on harvests hit a critical negative mass; the relatives had died or moved away and there were few other farmers within a reasonable distance. It should have meant a collapse of the farm at that point and the only reason it continued a decade more was the labor mandated for me. As I began doing many of the twice daily milkings solo and was the only one who did various field work (spreading manure, mowing and baling hay, etc.) it became easy for my father to feel he was handling it well by himself. My labor was out of sight and out of mind and he believed he was doing the vast majority of the work that kept the farm running. When I moved out after graduation I refused to help on the farm because I had my own 8x5 job and needed time to begin doing things like having a social life and dating, both of which had been denied because that time was needed to keep the farm going. Because of that the farm collapsed leading my father to a struggle with depression from the fact that "self-reliant dairy farmer," a core part of his identity, was wrecked when its foundation vanished.

@utubepunk

Жыл бұрын

Oh damn. Sorry you had to endure that. Does your father blame you?

@christophergreen6595

Жыл бұрын

Oof

@imogenx9145

Жыл бұрын

I think it's near impossible to be entirely self-reliant.

@StefanoFierros

Жыл бұрын

@@utubepunk of course he does, I had a similar experience when I went on an exchange and that made my father kindof resent me for a long time.

@DanDanDoe

Жыл бұрын

@@imogenx9145 Yeah, humans have always lived in groups. People have lived in villages for a long time now. Farms used to be much smaller and were worked on as a collective. The privatization of land and work since the Middle Ages, but especially things like cars and trucks, have changed how humans think of space. Humans need other humans, unless you’re willing to live a truly off-grid life with small-scale farming, hunting, fishing etc. But even then, if anything goes wrong you’re done for. One bad harvest, being unable to hunt because of a sprained ankle, stuff like that gets you killed if you want to be entirely self reliant.

My uncle lived In Arkansas and was a true off grid person. He was a Vietnam vet and he built his own cabin, got water from a spring on property, no electricity except sometimes they used a generator for lights but mostly it was oil lamps. He had chickens and a few other animals and the most epic garden. Everyone thought he was sorta nuts but honestly he went out and built his own paradise. He never had internet and mostly stayed away from anyone who wasn’t into the outdoors. Most interesting badass family member, wish I’d gotten a chance to know him better. Rip uncle Ricky

@patinsley

6 ай бұрын

May i ask how old he was when he passed and what took him? Thanks

@badkingjohn5235

6 ай бұрын

Where did he get the oil for the lamps from?

@Ming1975

6 ай бұрын

Yup, most actual off griders always looks a little nuts😂 like this hippy living in the swaps who only goes to town weekly to get battery charges.

@Donkeyearsa

6 ай бұрын

Anyone who does not live like everyone else will be seen as nuts as its not normal. The difference between someone who is a nut case and someone who is eccentric is the second is filthy rich.

@Pheebs77

6 ай бұрын

If I'd survived Vietnam I'd pretty much want to stay away from the rest of humanity too. RIP my dude.

I surprisingly came across Brent's channel way back in 2020 when he had like 1-2 videos uploaded. I saw like one video thought oh hey this looks cool and entirely forgot about that channel. Fast forward to today when I saw Brent on Max's channel and I was like this guy looks familiar. I then went on google and one of the searches came up with the keyword exposed. Now, I'm here and I'm just shocked how after all this time he still has a successful channel and with million of views. He sounds like a complete grifter which is crazy but now that I think about no one would invest all their life savings in a ghost town and magically expect everything to work out.

Sometimes I’m happy that I’m poor because I’m so gullible with money because I wanted to help with rebuilding the hotel

24:32 The scene with the hired elevator operators has me ROLLING, “You used to be a millionaire before you owned a mine!” 😂

@dirtpounder

Жыл бұрын

He seemed _so_ uncomfortable with that talk lol

@PointlessDrummer

Жыл бұрын

@@dirtpounder well, how would you feel getting called out for the grifter you are (assuming you are a grifter aswell)

@Prince_Luci

Жыл бұрын

@@PointlessDrummer he’s been upfront about his wealth, connections, and job he still works since his first episode. Idk how being honest about having money and wanting to spend it preserving a piece of history is a grift. He’s never once encouraged anyone to try living like him and has actively told people how massive of a money pit the town is and how if he didn’t get the satisfaction of preserving history he’d have abandoned it within a month. Seems honest to me

@BriiBabyyxoxo

Жыл бұрын

It's honest getting 110,000 dollars I donations for a building that most likely had fire insurance.

@d3nza482

Жыл бұрын

@@PointlessDrummer ...while being lowered down a bottomless pit by people doing the calling out.

As an indigenous man who has spent much of my life “off grid” by no choice of my own, Thank you for making this video. These grifters glorify places like where I grew up with a severe lack of infrastructure and access to said grid that people die regularly, to make them out to be some sort of “self sufficiency paradise”. Its always pissed me off, and with more platforms making fun of them maybe they will cease. 🙏🏾

@littleloner1159

Жыл бұрын

You always want what you don't have. Now if you will actually like it when you have it... That's another story. I'm sure there is plenty people happy with their chosen way of homesteading and all the downsides that come with it, but those are the ones with realistic expectations. It sure isn't a dreamy cozy comfy way of living.

@HANKTHEDANKEST

Жыл бұрын

I feel like some of these LARPers ought to trade places with some res kids for a year or so, then we'll see how they feel about "roughing it." These dumb city kids just have NO IDEA what real struggle looks or feels like.

@atashgallagher5139

Жыл бұрын

It's a great life if you have a cr*p load of money to buy a bunch of fancy power tools, and solar panels, and tractors, and importing food and luxuries from "on the grid". There's no such thing as an off grid homemade tractor and solar panel farm for your air conditioning and electronics. It's great if you can afford that stuff. But be honest about it. You are buying stuff made "on the grid", with money you made working and living on the grid or with money your rich dad gave to you that he made on the grid.

@c.dl.4274

Жыл бұрын

self sufficiency would be great if done right.

@victorkreig6089

Жыл бұрын

I mean, most of them ARE paradise....for now The problem with these "people" is that just like the youtube videos of "perfect hidden villages and towns" they bring attention that those places don't need and are incapable of accommodating which causes many problems for them and the land they are on If everyone decides they want to live out "in the wilderness" then the wilderness won't be wild anymore, it'll be shit like everywhere else because it has the one thing that makes everywhere shit, people

That guy in the ghost town has impeccable laundry for someone that is roughing it in primitive conditions. Its the LL Bean version of off grid.

@iRelevant.47.blacklisted

3 ай бұрын

Probably had a luxury RV with a Jacuzzi parked of cam.

As someone who has extensively remodeled homes, built additions, finished basements and much more, all construction is challenging, often dangerous, expensive and requires extraordinary resolve. You have to be physically, mentally and spiritually 'fit' for the task and you'll need help. No way around it. Precious few of these people seem prepared to live off grid, or in tiny homes or in the woods for that matter.

I've been living in a storage trailer for 6 months now; I came across a field of abandoned storage trailers, and actually met the owner of this field for the first time about 2 weeks ago (fortunately he's an understanding good man and I can still live here). Before I found the trailer, I was sleeping on top of a park slide. Today I spent 2 hours flying a homeless sign {only within the last two months have I decided to give a crap about myself so I stopped doing drugs, drinking, and have been doing odd jobs of being moving help}. I get back to my trailer and using my government funded phone + phone service got onto KZread and saw your channel in my recommended for the first time ever, this video being listed. I thought this was going to be about homelessness but this is still a fascinating subject. And now on the part where you're talkin about this place called echo Park and you just stated that the people who live there or doing more off-the-grid living than Brent is-- holyshit I was feeling that statement before you actually said it. Five other homeless people have moved into the other trailers around here after I had moved in and it's like a mini community in itself. I just felt inspired to bring all of this up, thoroughly enjoying your video.

@stanbarr9884

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your story. I'm trying to put something together right now, a dream I've had many years. Yes some times we beging to think, homeless people like it that way. Heck, I offered the mother of my grandchildren a place and work, but she told me she liked camping in the woods. Go figure. But your story encouraged me to keep moving forward, because, ther are folks that would love to have a second chance. My vision is for a work, training, discipleship, transitional housing ministry. Again, thanks for the encouraging woprds, blessings

@GlorifiedGremlin

Жыл бұрын

Other people flocking to your good fortune may deter the man who let's you stay there. Allowing one lost soul to stay on your land is nothing, but when it becomes a literal village??

@shlomophobe5582

Жыл бұрын

At least you’re willing to acknowledge drug use as a factor in the state of homelessness you have found yourself in

@theothertonydutch

Жыл бұрын

Human beings gravitate towards each other and create communities naturally. It's kind of a beautiful thing. I can imagine sometimes it must be tough, but I hope you'll be able to hang in there. Love and peace from the Netherlands!

@willothewild

Ай бұрын

Good on you for valuing yourself better. I hope you're able to find a balance in your life. I know how hard it is, I've been where you are a few times. Community makes a huge difference. Stay sincere and stay honest. Even about your limitations. Happiness is an emotion, it comes and goes. Meaning is an investment, it grows and grows. Keep investing.

My dad has been living off grid (on an island) since 1973-4. I was born and raised there. He has never so much as posted a picture of his amazing property or beautiful hand built structures, his crazy vehicles or his stunning rock sculptures online because he doesn’t give tiny shit what anyone thinks of him or his life. He does build everything himself because he’s to stingy and particular to hire anyone to do anything!

@iRelevant.47.blacklisted

3 ай бұрын

Live streaming your 'off grid' experience is the ultimate oxymoron. The 'financiers' have unsurprisingly managed to turn even 'the Apocalypse' into a business opportunity. Mineral supplements and water filtration.

@crimestoppers1877

3 ай бұрын

Yup!

@MrJti8899

3 ай бұрын

Best comment I read so far and the critical liberal girl from Michigan who lives in LA hasn't added a heart. Hmmmm

@MikeBarbarossa

3 ай бұрын

Oops you ruined it he's not broadcast online

@jessepitt

3 ай бұрын

@@MikeBarbarossa lol, I ruined his anonymity. Now everyone knows.

It's quite ironic that the same algorithm that feeds me numerous suggestions for videos about "How we went off-grid for under $35" also fed me this video about off-grid grifters.

I know someone is stupid when they indicate that a human right is something that requires someone else's labor.

Him being mad at the cement company for not coming out translates to "they wanted extra money for the extra difficulties involved and i didn't want to pay them".

@B-Kun

3 ай бұрын

Doesnt sound like someone with infinite money.

@gent_Carolina

3 ай бұрын

​@@B-KunYes, it does. How do you think they got all that money?! By skimping on everyone else except themselves.

@theobserver9131

3 ай бұрын

Typical rich ahole. Kinda like a certain orange-ish guy.

@theobserver9131

3 ай бұрын

As a carpenter, I've worked for a lot of different kind of people. It's always the rich ones that try to whittle down my prices, and the poor people telling me I should charge more. Rich people never tip me. Poor people always do.

@Niriixa

3 ай бұрын

I've watched some of the early content of that channel, and the road up to the town is an absolute nightmare. It's not a surprise the cement company didn't want to risk driving up there, because the chance of getting stuck or straight up destroying their cement truck is high enough to outright refuse service. Him getting upset at them just reeked of entitlement.

He turned an ore mine into a content mine. You couldn’t have thought up a more perfect metaphor.

@AaronX442

7 ай бұрын

He also sells all his email contacts. So you can include personal data mining.

A family of four of us has lived in a 2 bedroom terraced house for 20 year and the tiny house thing makes me furious.

I actually feel Hannah Lee has been relatively transparent on how she made/saved money in the past by selling her eggs which made her quite a bit as she didn't plan to have kids, living van life for multiple years, and working side jobs/small temp type stuff all over the place in addition to youtube and ad rev. She bought a pos pair of falling down cabins in the woods to eff around with during covid and ended up popping off enough she was able to buy a more legit home later on I believe. I also think part of what spurred her to purchase the second one was being doxxed online and being at least mildly afraid for her safety. Her parents appear somewhat well off and may have contributed some amount to the purchase but you can bet a large chunk came solely from her.

@oscillateswildly

3 ай бұрын

glad to see a comment about hannah-i don’t think she advertises as off grid living, even during her van trips. throwing hannah under the bus in this video automatically makes me not want to trust this channel because i’m not certain their research was thorough or doesn’t have significant bias.

@chasethecat3839

3 ай бұрын

She never told anyone online unless I missed it, that the cabins were right through the trees to her parents house. So the projects she did, dad was right through the trees. I'm pretty sure he helped a lot more than was shown. Sorry. I used to watch her but quit when I found out the Little Cabin in the woods alone, was within shouting distance of mom and dad

@Deannerzz

3 ай бұрын

@@oscillateswildlyshe also picked and chose what she shared of the Charles Bello video to misrepresent his situation. He does not fit into the “grifter” category at all. This made me not want to finish the video since I am not trusting she did thorough research either and selectively is sharing what makes her thesis look better

My maternal grandparents built and maintained an actual homestead. And they were dirt poor their entire lives, working their asses off to keep everything running so they could go BUY food and tools and clothes as little as possible. Grandpa had a forge and a woodshop to make his own tools and he hunted basically every day he wasn't working in town for what little money they got. Grandma was elbow-deep in some domestic task at all times to the point her wedding ring wore down to a tiny brittle bit of gold wire and had to be replaced. Mom ran around in the woods barefoot her entire childhood, wearing red so hunters wouldn't shoot her, and every one of her siblings had a colour coded to them until they grew up and left the homestead to seek better prospects. It wasn't romantic or pretty or instagram-friendly, it was just ass-busting work and everyone in town was in the same boat supporting each other so nobody outright starved.

@rareoddish

Жыл бұрын

Very similar story with my maternal great-grandparents, swedish homesteaders in central saskatchewan. My grandmother grew up wearing random fabric for clothing and shitting outside in -40 degree winter nights. Rich people that want to "live that sweet life" have no clue what fresh hell every week can bring trying to work the land with little to no help. I wish anyone trying out homesteading the very best of luck, there's many reasons people don't do that anymore. Oh except the rich grifters, they can just donate all their money to nature conservation or the indigenous peoples whose land it actually is.

My favourite genre is trust fund kids pretending that their 'van life', featuring a tricked out camper van, is something the average person can just walk away from their job and decide to any day of the week. My second-favourite is the exploitative companies that pay people in developing nations to make fake 'primitive building' videos and destroy a patch of the environment that will immediately be abandoned after filming is over. Also, 6:44 - THANK YOU.

@lizzfrmhon

4 ай бұрын

Please don’t watch the primitive videos as you’re contributing to the problem.

@sweetlorikeet

4 ай бұрын

@@lizzfrmhon I would like to make it perhaps more obvious, when I said 'favourite genre' I was being deeply sarcastic. I do not make a habit of viewing either kind of video.

@LuizAlexPhoenix

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, those primitive videos are actual exploitation and deforestation to the max. They will hire a couple locals to be actors, cut down some trees, dig down part of the holes and put bricks in place. Then they time skip the part where heavy machinery cuts a huge swath of forest, digs a foundation, delivers the baked bricks and the contractors put the majority in place. The most egregious IIRC was one video where they filled a pool with water from a local lake and filled it with paint so it looked clear blue. They abandoned it, so mosquitos loved the pool while other animals couldn't drink it. The entire thing was a huge hole in the forest, hurting the ecossystem.

@ScottM5.0

4 ай бұрын

If I ever get sick of the hamster wheel/paycheck to paycheck/ buried in high interest debt lifestyle, despite a quarter century of skill & knowledge gained, in a increasingly outsourced, specialized custom medical device production “career”, I’ll just acquire a bunch of land, building materials, industrial machinery, a high end “outdoor” wardrobe, etc., & just plant potatoes & organize a bunch of books, in a decorative manner. Find enlightenment & achieve huge erections, like an early ancient warrior, wielding a hand sharpened spear, between conference calls with shareholders & financial advisors.

@justinmegibben4909

4 ай бұрын

I read a book from the 50s that dealt with yuppies, and its the same concept. Kids from affluent classes pretending to live socially below their means for the experience of it.

6 acres outside of Boon will cost a significant amount of money. That is a college town / resort town for wealthy people from Charlotte and Atlanta. Land is scarce and buyers are many.

can we all agree that "tiny homes" are dystopian though? people shouldn't be living in cramped conditions.

@Automedon2

3 ай бұрын

The TV show made it a trend for people to see how many expensive finishes and hand beaten copper sinks they could squeeze into a box.

The homesteading husband youtuber genre always makes my blood boil a little bit. Forcing his kids into homeschooling because they live miles away from civilisation, acting extremely autonomous while uploading regular videos and filming every single moment that he is "off the grid". Worst is the endless dogwhistling about becoming self-sufficient in a "changing world", while all the while shilling you his 'how to garden' courses.

@polarfoxgirl

Жыл бұрын

This gives strong "Educated" vibes.

@kappadarwin9476

Жыл бұрын

The more I think of homesteader dads the more I feel that a lot of them never grew up with the life style. Imagine being a kid and missing out on childhood because your dad decided to live out in the wildness like a hermit. That would be heart breaking.

@paulmryglod4802

Жыл бұрын

My grandparents grew up in the middle of nowhere Manitoba because cheap land that their immigrant parents could afford. It's not good for kids to be isolated from other people. It causes generational issues.

@delusionnnnn

Жыл бұрын

I'm reminded of the National Geographic show "Doomsday Preppers". A good 70% of the participants would talk around their beliefs, which ended up being "we think liberals and non-white people from the city are going to charge up on us to get our raccoon pelts, ammunition, 70 gallons of fetid water, and 110 pounds of dried lentils as soon as [the rapture/college campus safe spaces/the media/George Soros] starts a race war. And then some goofus from a prepper business would "rate" their "preps" and the participant would usually disagree because they kept the 15 pounds of deer jerky and extra 400 rounds of ammunition they keep in coffee cans buried randomly in their yard a "secret".

@Cheskaz

Жыл бұрын

There was a really heart breaking article from Suzanne Heywood about her father uprooting their family to sail around the world that I'd definitely recommend checking out!

This feels like that moment in the Fyre Festival netflix doc where the one guy who was worried about sewage and bathrooms got fired for caring about that. He dodged a lawsuit there.

It has always been my understanding that "going off-grid" meant getting away from technology and modern society, not filming it to show the rest of the world. I admit that I have always wanted to live like a hermit and get away from humans, but I don't live with the illusion that I am able to and I certainly don't have the desire to share my "adventure" with people that I want to get away from. I already know that if I ever get in a position where I lose my current living situation that I will become homeless and it wouldn't be the first time in my life that has happened.

@willothewild

Ай бұрын

I'm in the process of getting myself into a cheap shelter on some cheap raw land that's further from the center of my small rural town, and my main goal is in fact NOT to leverage it to become an influencer. What I would really like is some goddamn peace and quiet and something I can legitimately call mine. I've noticed that the handful of channels I've found that are actually useful to me in terms of alternative living, either the people running the channel have to seek out and find these folks somehow or the channel creator is just vlogging to share wins/lessons for people who are trying to do something similar. People sharing information to help each other achieve their goals more effectively. That's community, not entertainment.

@glenjennett

Ай бұрын

@@willothewild It's nice if you are able to find a place where you can find peace away from the madness of the world. I wish I was able to do that, but the only place I can do that at this current time is in my own mind oddly enough. These "influencers" get on my nerves. As Joey Swoll says, they try to get likes and attention and don't do anything unless they are able to exploit others or to try to start the next trend. It makes my head hurt. I'm so glad I don't use social media.

@willothewild

Ай бұрын

@@glenjennett It's a good call. I got the worst/least interesting perspective on every person I know via socials. Social media tends to "nudge" the way people present themselves. People are so much better in real life. Not because they're hiding more...it's because you can see more of them. So I don't use social media. I spent most of my life only able to find solace in my mind. It's been a long process getting both feet (mostly) in the outside world. It helped a lot to move into a smaller area where more sincere connections with people were possible. Less noise, slower pace, more alternative lifestyles. Etc. Being surrounded by people who do things off the beaten path makes it easier to bushwhack your way to an alternative of your own. It's not smooth sailing. My means are very limited and it's not an "instagramable" situation. Off-grid grifters turn the whole ordeal into an "aesthetic". I consider it a new example of poverty appropriation, in the vein of "street fashion" on the runway. I'm doing this because I've been sinking slowly deeper into poverty my entire life, no matter what I do. I'm seriously mentally ill. There's no further luxury I can eliminate. I can't eat any less. But I'm 30 and I've got to have something to call mine. So here I go. I think most people wouldn't be down for my solution, which is fully ok. Everyone should find the way that's best for them. Do whatever makes you feel at ease in your own life. Following that thread hasn't led me down the easy path necessarily, but it's taken me down the right path (for me) so far.

@glenjennett

Ай бұрын

@@willothewild Good luck to you. I can relate to having mental health issues, as I believe most people can to some degree. I also live a poor lifestyle since I am not able to work as I used to, but I am living with people who support me. I have had a pretty rough life from childhood to adulthood having survived everything from bullying in school and an abusive father at home, molestation at a young age, homelessness and multiple suicide attempts. Needless to say, I have always felt alone, but that never bothered me because it was always preferable to being around people who wanted to hurt me. Even as a young child I remember wanting to someday find a place away from all humans. As I said in my original comment, if my current living situation ends, I will be homeless once again. I have done it before, so it wouldn't be too much of an adjustment, but I don't look forward to it. Anyway, good luck to you with your situation and I hope you are able to find the peace you are looking for.

Your video is spot on, and transcends way past this category into many others. For example there was this guy who was touting driving all over Africa in a jeep he built and paid for "himself". I kept asking how he was able to take off for years with no visible employment, pay for fuel, repairs, and all the costs. His response was of course, "anyone can do it, I just worked hard for two years, saved up every penny and I am living off that"....uh huh, riiiightt. What also cracks me up about these types of people is something you addressed, the notable skill issues or more accurately, lack thereof. So many of these knuckleheads think that b/c they have a degree of some sort, they are more capable than people with no degree but have a decades of skill and experience. "It's just a blue collar skill, anyone can do it!!" I watch these kids try to wire up a garage, run a bobcat, install irrigation, or fell a tree with a chainsaw, and it is just a kettle full of cringe and risk of serious injury.

"...label as grifter because it's clear they don't actually know what they are doing..." immediate cut to the next guy kayaking with his paddles upside-down. very nice

I met a young woman about 5 years ago in my student town -- she spoke Spanish fluently and I was talking with my friend there in Spanish so we talked there and we shared phone numbers. She was studying business management and then started a van life account. She has 40k followers but one thing she does not mention -- which I only know because I went to her dad's apartment -- is that she is able to pay for her van lifestyle by managing a "small business", a boxed pizza company that sells to local markets and like... yeah, sure sis, I would be able to live in a car if I owned a 100k+ a year business.

@ark212

Жыл бұрын

But you don't own such a business and here you are on the internet bitching about someone else's life because you feel entitled to what they have.

@kmasse81

Жыл бұрын

It's such a slap in the face to people who must live in their car because they have no money while working 2 jobs!

7:49 Bullshit. Ain't nobody looking like that making TRIANGLE WINDOWS.

It is not hard to find affordable wilderness living, and you really don't have to be rich. Day laborers can afford mini farms, dry ranches, and swamp land. The drawback and why they're so cheap is you sometimes have to find creative solutions to things like utilities and waste disposal, since there's no city garbage pick up or city utility companies nearby (hence why they're considered "off-grid.") Thankfully, for those of us who know what we're doing, that's a huge turn-off to the main consumer-base.

@DrBoyZepho

Ай бұрын

lol what do you consider affordable? having to spend thousands of dollars before you're self sustaining isn't affordable

@KB-zq9ny

Ай бұрын

@@DrBoyZepho, hey, normally it's cheaper than a house in the city, but, no, it isn't free, usually, but most people aren't looking for free.

@alltheflavors9673

29 күн бұрын

Sure that's why millions of agricultural workers have their little self sufficient cottage, please.

@KB-zq9ny

28 күн бұрын

@@alltheflavors9673, hey what can I say? I'm not really mad. The more of you who think off-grid living is some pie in the sky fantasy, the more that's available for those of us who know what we're doing.

My dad's primary criteria for living off grid was the ability to pee out his back door with no one able to see. Like he wistfully looked off into the middle distance on numerous occasions and expressed this wish. I guess it's good to have ambitions.

@oldskooljules

Жыл бұрын

This is a most magnificent ideal. I, too, share this dream! Please thank your dad

@johnpjones182

Жыл бұрын

I grew up in the sticks in Southwest Missouri & peeing at night from the front porch always felt liberating. Good times.

@josejaimes-ramos1546

Жыл бұрын

Not that big a wish considering that I could do the same thing in a small country town. You just got to make sure you aren't pissing on anyone else's stuff.

@dottyContrarian

Жыл бұрын

all you need is a tall fence, really.

@larryscarr3897

Жыл бұрын

Just had my morning wee in just that way..

The big one missing was a channel called “Pure Living For Life”. This couple lied about living “on site”, complete with videos of waking up in a camper (that they didn’t live in). They were going to build their “off grid dream home”, then later said the goal was never to be off grid. They soaked hundreds of people for donations, bought brand new vehicles, botched multiple phases of construction, got snippy with anyone trying to point out their mistakes, pissed off their own fans, and made every wrong decision they could. In the end, they built an uninhabitable building that was never completed, had a kid that brought a lot of controversy, bought an airplane with house donations (and were dumb enough to brag about it), and disappeared. Total schitt show.

@tw8464

6 ай бұрын

Just like all the fake "off grid" KZreadrs

@alltheflavors9673

29 күн бұрын

Yes I remember them, it was so obviously a scam I can't believe people donated to them!

You don't have to verbally emphasize how many naked women are in the videos: you give them a great deal of screen time.

Has anybody watched the TLC Series: Love Off The Grid? Where two of the "Off Grid" people were 1: Just trying to start a cult, and the 2nd: Was just a poor lady in Arizona that said she lived "Off grid" as a coping mechanism for poverty?

Honestly I’d argue that Thoreau was the first off-grid grifter. Not only did his mother come to wash his clothes for him, but also Walden Pond is twenty miles from Boston and quite a few people already lived around it. His friends would come and visit regularly, and he would make weekly trips to the Concord market to buy groceries. I mean I’m generally suspicious of all the early transcendentalists if only because I feel like you can draw a direct line from them to the glorification of “rugged individualism” as an idea at all, to the point where you sometimes get the sense that their problem with slavery is that it stops white people from doing labor. Also Thoreau is an absolutely insufferable writer.

@pattheplanter

Жыл бұрын

There were many religious hermits over thousands of years who relied on peope to bring them cooked meals.

@arghjayem

Жыл бұрын

That, plus he only lived in by the pond for 2 years, 2 months, 2 days…he then moved in with his friend Ralph Waldo Emerson and his family. Plus he was a Harvard Graduate who initially started his own school but then decided that teaching wasn’t for him and started writing a journal and publishing essays. Then he went on to write articles for magazines whilst building his own home…

@petergarayt9634

Жыл бұрын

He also burnt down a neighbor's forest from ignoring local regulations.

@julieforan3559

Жыл бұрын

I grew up in the next town over so Walden Pond was just a place to go swimming in the summer for us. It did not any mystique about it.

@haileys5224

Жыл бұрын

After reading Thoreau for class I have to agree. Mr I got locked up and everyone should do what I do, when he was consistently given special treatment, and the local government repeatedly gave him passive warnings. What a billy-badass 🙄

I love how you came right up to the line of suggesting that he burned the place down himself so he could build somewhere the government would actually allow people to stay, without quite saying it.

@LoveProWrestling

Жыл бұрын

To be fair it would expose Maggie Mae to legal risk if she were to outright say he had committed insurance fraud, and filmed it for the purpose of committing secondary fraud on his viewers by suggesting this extremely fortuitous un-fortuitous event had removed an obstacle and afforded him a windfall all at once, in a giant run on sentence. Lucky she didn't say that I guess.

@Chedring

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's almost like she skirted herself from her false accusations lol. What a drama queen.

@leebarbs7176

Жыл бұрын

I think OP was actually respecting how she handled it lol not suggesting she go further

@darkhobo

9 ай бұрын

​​@@Chedringi dont care. Ill say it. Dude is a scammer and you're a mark. How much did you "donate"?

@ThomWalbranA1

9 ай бұрын

The government had no issues with people staying there the only issue which still is an issue is water. In order to have a kitchen and bar he need to have a certain amount of drinkable water depending of number of people. But for just overnight no meals that's not an issue. Plus he was approved for a historic site and building code is different. For idiots that make false claim about the fire. No insurance company would ever insure a 150 year old wooden building, no water and fire department 75 miles away for any amount of money. Call around and ask, 2nd. There was a investigation and Brent was found innocent of any wrong doing. This is also on file Inyo Country Fire Marshall.

This is so cringe I can't even finish it. Sorry MMF.

You're not wrong. And using a homemade composting toilet for a year for five people is a pain in the butt lol. The one I built was basically 5 gallon bucket and then a funnel going to a gallon jug. And if you really want to know how much your kids and your wife pee, then I recommend this system... Lol

I grew up in the country, and the truth is that no one can do it alone. The more harsh the setting, the more communal effort is needed. And that's true in rural communities and urban communities alike! As my parents' generation ages, there's a lot of communal effort towards moving former back to the land settlers into town. It's not safe to be disabled or elderly or otherwise vulnerable so far from immediate help!

@spiralswithinspirals

Жыл бұрын

They don’t hate conscripting neighbors to help them, they hate the idea of being asked to help a single other human being.

@rgs8970

Жыл бұрын

​@@spiralswithinspirals very good point

@Itried20takennames

Жыл бұрын

So true…the idea that people used to be islands unto themselves in the wilderness was never the norm. The typical village where one guy is a blacksmith, one guy made bricks mostly, one widow keeps bees for honey (and a little moonshine sales on the side), where neighboring farms share equipment, etc. was far more survivable than 20 families each doing everything in individual compounds. All the preppers who think their 4-person family is going to avoid all contact with the rest of humanity and survive the post-nuclear apocalypse world will find that things will go downhill very quickly, and even the majority of those living remotely now are reliant on outside supplies to do so.

@NachozMan

Жыл бұрын

The disabled and elderly just died back in the day before it mattered bro lol

@shinobi-no-bueno

Жыл бұрын

​@@NachozMan humans have been taking care of our elderly for more than 100,000 years

I guess the definition of "off the grid" has changed. 20 years ago, it meant: no nearby cities or towns, no tv, no phone, no internet, no career, no bills, and no money. Now, i guess it simply means "living in the woods."

@Liusila

3 ай бұрын

Off the highway grid? Dunno.

@crimestoppers1877

3 ай бұрын

Or living where there are no government "services" and therefore few people and very low taxes. If you see cars on nice paved roads you are still too close to the "city". Some day zero vehicles drive on my street. And there are zero homeless anything except a few coyotes.

@stinkymart3173

3 ай бұрын

It literally means being off of the electrical grid, ie getting power from a generator or just straight Amishin' it.

@nicklibby3784

3 ай бұрын

​@@stinkymart3173 yes, it literally just means being "off the power grid" and not connected to anything like "off the city water system". It just means no connection to the electricity grid, or water "grid", no cable Internet (sometimes, kinda depends on your definition, and times have changed in 2023). Nowadays in 2023, you can easily get internet with Elon musks "Starlink" that actually has good speeds despite being in the middle of nowhere, and you can actually generate a SUBSTANTIAL amount of electricity - sustainably using solar panels, and I don't just mean "sustainable" in environmental terms, I mean like actually sustainable for you, to use the same amount of electricity as a normal modern person and not be very limited with use. Pair that with a nice diesel generator (which are EXTREMELY efficient nowadays) and even in areas with harsh dark winters you will have plenty of electricity. Then on top of that, you can dig a well, and get your own water system, and get a huge water tank for extra. In 2023, you can literally be "Off Grid" and STILL have plenty of electricity using solar panels + diesel generator (for some areas, in winter) AND use the internet with high speeds using Elon Musks Starlink. The whole point of going "off grid" was NOT to just "give up electricity, running water and Internet because they are bad for you, modern living is bad, capitalism is bad, let's live like our ancestors and be more spiritual or something". It was to be SELF SUSTAINABLE in case a bad event happened so you are not reliant of the government and mostly to reduce your cost of living by generating these things yourself instead of relying on the city for it (electricity, water, internet). Nowadays you can do all 3 yourself and be off grid. I don't understand why these KZreadrs think that the point of going off grid was to just "live like our ancestors using the absolute bare minimum" and give up running water, electricity, and internet. The actual point is to just literally be off grid and not reliant on the government and do these things yourself. So that way you can reduce your cost of living, and therefore have more freedom to do what you want, like starting a business out there, farming, ranching, logging, whatever.

@taywimz

2 ай бұрын

​@crimestoppers1877 you're such a loser. Plz get better. Good luck. You'll need it.

Thank you. I definitely notice this bs in home renovation car renovation auto wrap videos. A bunch of liar scammers trying to falsely create the "perfect" snapshot because they know no other value

I watched Brent cry about the hotel burning down, watched him beg for money and unsubscribed. I mean he was talking about rehabbing the buildings and opening them for commercial profit. I had the same "HE HAD NO INSURANCE?!?!" reaction. I didnt know about the investors or his marketing background but the whole thing just stunk and I dont enjoy watching content that makes me cringe. You made some spot-on observations, great job on this!

Not exactly Off-grid homesteader types, but I watched a few seasons of Alone, which is a reality competition where people are dropped in the woods with their own cameras to self document, and 10 items and whoever can stay the longest wins money. Especially in later seasons, the majority of contestants are survival instructors, special forces types, and professional hunters and whatnot. And my key takeaway from watching that show is that even all these highly trained and practiced "self-reliant" folks are all dead within 100 days. They all struggle with food and water, they all kind of go mad from loneliness, they get hurt and sick and poison themselves eating things they shouldn't, get frostbite as soon as the snow rolls in - no one survives alone. Anyone who thinks otherwise is out of their mind.

@KitKatFresse

Жыл бұрын

Except for the absolute legend that's roland welker, but yeah pretty accurate in general.

@Korhal23

Жыл бұрын

@@KitKatFresse true, but he got super lucky with that musk ox. And I maintain that in that season, knowing that 100 days was the goal instead of "until you win, whenever that is but you have no idea if everyone is still here or you're in the final two" helped several of them get further than they might have otherwise. And who knows how much further he could have gone or not. Still a pretty wild season though.

@SoulDevoured

Жыл бұрын

Yeah living on your own is wildly difficult. I'm close to communities that romanticize it and I suggest people watch shows like this before trying it on their own. These are not people that come from money or finely honed skills, either. I have to somewhat regularly tell someone that what they want to do is impossible and possibly suicidal. And suggest they go backpacking instead. And if that's not a challenge for them then to do some very long backpacking or moving to a very remote small community. Anything but to just go into the woods and expect to live on their own far from civilization.

@asmodiusjones9563

Жыл бұрын

I love the later seasons on that show because, as a result of taking competent outdoors people as contestants, no one is under any illusions. They all know starvation is their most likely outcome.

@kappadarwin9476

Жыл бұрын

@@SoulDevoured Its even sadder if its someone in their sixties that think its a good idea to live alone in the wilderness.

I paused it on Brent's $167,000 a day helicopter rental. It's actually not for a single day but for an entire week, pays the salary of 7 support staff (including pilot and co-pilot) and is renting a MILITARY UH60 BLACKHAWK HELICOPTER. I checked and there is a civilian Blackhawk, but it's called a "Firehawk". Seems like an intentionally overinflated price to justify his lack of action.

@nickhaines601

4 ай бұрын

Underrated comment!

@jerrylindgren7828

4 ай бұрын

That Blackhawk is likely owned by the same KZreadr who delivered the concrete. He probably does not own a more affordable helicopter... that's why they used trucks instead.

@goofygal27

4 ай бұрын

Not that many UH-60s in private hands in the U.S. - Something tells me the 'quote' is total BS... It's generic with no company information. Dude doesn't know any helicopters so he just put the first/only one he knew about?

@jerrylindgren7828

4 ай бұрын

@goofygal27 or perhaps HeavyDSparks, the KZreadr who delivered the concrete via truck, had considered how much it would cost to deliver it with the Blackhawk he owns and operates. Obviously, it's not practical, but getting the quote makes for a better story in the video.

@saltyreesescup3104

4 ай бұрын

​@@goofygal27Dave Sparks...😶🧂

not sure if you can get fire insurance on a defunct building in the middle of nowhere