Honestly just having Roosevelt there to train and inspire the Americans would make a huge difference, the militiamen's greatest weakness was their lack of cohesion and investment in the war, most just wanted to defend their state.

Don't forget Teddy also studied the war of 1812 extensively. He even wrote a book about it (The Naval War of 1812) which won awards for being an excellent academic resource. He would have known the British tactics exceptionally well.

As for morale of the Rough Riders, despite the extreme numerical difference...they'd be insanely bolstered knowing they're fighting alongside their grandfathers and great-grandfathers.

Interesting side note here: Lars Ulrichs great uncle ( possibly before that) rode with Roosevelt in the rough riders and is a medal of honor recipient

This channel is single-handedly feeding my niche "what-if, alt-history" itch.

Well done. Really hoping for a naval engagement soon. Would love to see one modern warship in the war of 1812 or something like that.

@mikemcghin5394

7 ай бұрын

The destroyermen books do a good job showing of what will happen

@blackhorse-wm6oc

6 ай бұрын

Rather than just one engagement I wonder about something like if we changed the USS Ranger from a 18 gun sloop-of-war to a Clemson class destroyer when john Paul Jones takes it to France in 1777.

@mikemcghin5394

6 ай бұрын

@@blackhorse-wm6oc that would be greatly interesting to speculate on but she be Limited to one engagement because the difficulty in making 4-inch shells in the 1700 unless she so happens to be USS Walker dd163

I like your lengthy setting of the stage to get everyone familiar with the historical aspects as well as the weaponry. It IS entertaining. Keep it up. Here's a scenario that's a closer match: Shiroyama samurais, bolstered by a battalion of WW2 Marines against 30,000 imperial forces. Could the Marines using mortars, deal with the period artillery & warships? Could consider mortars only or throw in some 105mm pieces.

@bobskywalker2707

7 ай бұрын

Imperial Japanese Company perhaps? Wouldn't make much sense for them to fight themselves though. Maybe a platoon of JSDF soldiers

@_Jose77

7 ай бұрын

Yeah I like how he sets the tone. I think if he made it longer it would boost my enjoyment. Its a good vid

How about 50 WWII Marines at the Battle of Little Big Horn?

@tf2keller398

7 ай бұрын

Given that General Custer charged the Indians, resulting in his death and huge casualties, if the Marines didn’t know what went wrong during the battle, then Custer would likely still die and the 7th Cavalry Regiment would be routed. And if they did know, then Custer would probably call for reinforcements before attacking, even with the Marine’s superior firepower. That’s just what I think would happen, though.

Second time asking: please do modern Italian paratroopers at the battle of Candia on the island of Crete between the Ottomans and Venetians.

@blacktimhoward4322

7 ай бұрын

I hope this doesn't come off as incredibly disrespectful, but I've never understood the 'X time of asking' or 'X day of asking' trend. If I were a content creator, this would make me aggressively avoid that particular idea until the end of time lol

I have an interesting one. What if Saddam Hussein’s Iraq in 1990. Got sent back to 1939 and joined the Axis powers? I think it would quickly complicate the situation for the British in North Africa and even India. Not to mention the Iraq and the Soviet caucuses not being that far off and Iraq could help better link up Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan.

A couple of good side note on San Juan Hill. The troopers had to leave their horses in Tampa cause there wasn’t room for them. The Rough Riders got beat up and pinned down and were saved by the 9th and 10th US Cavalry - the Buffalo Soldiers. The Negro Cavalry saved the day.

I'm not competent enough about the Rough Riders in particular, but the typical Krag loadout was a double looped cartridge belt holding 100 rounds, and an occasional additional bandoleer, also taking 100rds. The 50rd belts were normally relegated to .45-70 armed troops, although some were rushed through the procurement process in .30-40 for the emergency. Since T.R. exercized an amazing amount of "pull", getting all sorts of unobtainium for his boys, it seems unlikely he'd scrimp on the cartridge loadout when his purpose is to look for the biggest fight he could find.

I love these videos.

Great format, perfect video. Fort Sumter with 3 movie "predators" on the defendors' side.

I'd be interested to see how a modern company of U.S Marines might have altered the outcome of the battle of Wake Island in 1941.

@robertenyart9982

7 ай бұрын

The modern marines would be starved out due to lack of resupply. There would be more Japanese casualties and a bigger war crime as the starving survivors would all be put to death.

Teddy Roosevelt approves... And then drop kicks the British officers.

You’re definitely one of the coolest KZread channels that I subscribe to. This is my kind of stuff, from your stories of king author to the awesome American history. It’s up there with Toldinstone for me.

Can you do clusters last stand with 50 ww2 era American soldiers?

@acr08807

7 ай бұрын

cluster was the worst genital in the us army

@thisissparta789789

7 ай бұрын

That would be extremely lopsided lol. Coughing Baby vs Hydrogen Bomb vibes

@SamGrant-jm6mz

7 ай бұрын

Custer got what he deserved. Custer split his army into three groups one was led by somebody who was drunk, the other was led by somebody who wasn't even there. They thought that they were going to go in and simply hold the women and children as hostages like they had done in prior engagements.

Great video, ww1 French Foreign Legionnaires helping Napoleon Bonaparte win the battle of Waterloo.

Every time travel episode: The more modern force absolutely demolishes their primitive counterpart.

@VunderGuy

7 ай бұрын

Sharpe's rifles episode: Am I a joke to you!?

Ok can we see WW1 soldiers at the siege of Malta in 1565?

Do more of these alternate battle histories. They're amazing

I think you should make a sequel series. Basically revisit the time I see you created with the effects of that your interventions.

These videos are great.

Teddy would teach them a hard lesson.

Great video. Love this series.

@ParryThis

7 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

Roosevelt himself would solo the entire British army. He was just that manly.

Great content!

Loved it!

Great vid

Keep doing these please

wooooooooooooooo I love it thank you good sire.

@ParryThis

7 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Let’s get something clear, aimed fire of a Kraft rifle to 600 yards is really a fantasy for the average soldier. It’s a 200 grain round nose bullet at 2,000 feet per second. With those ballistics you would need to be able estimate range well and know the sights well. Ultimately the practical range is probably more like 2.5/3.5 times that of a smoothbore musket all things considered. This was still the day of volley fire and mass formation… If they had a spitzer 150 grain at 2,500 they could definitely get er done at 600. However once again I would expect the majority of their shots at well under 300 yards. Also while you can hit individual targets at 100 yards with a smoothbore musket, 50 yards is really enough of a stretch. So maybe just maybe it’s 6 times???

Enjoyed the video--corrections, Bladensburg is pronounced with a long A, not short, so like Blade-ens-burg. Also, I don't think I've ever heard the Krag called a Springfield Krag (note, short A in Krag, not long).

@ParryThis

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info!

Mr. Parry this, could you do a US marine corp company from 1999 at the Bay of Pigs invasion?

Could you do the 300 spartans with modern soldiers?

@SamGrant-jm6mz

7 ай бұрын

Rorkes Drift. Only much more one sided. Like Guns of The South when the Confederacy was armed with AKMs at The Wilderness.

you know, after listening to Orson Wells WotW on holloween, it got me wondering as to how the novel mars invaders would far against todays tech. I know there is an updated look to this invasion with the A10 and all that. But, what if we use the 1953 US Military from the 1953 movie of the WotW and place the Marines (air and land equipment) of the movie against Novel invaders.

@joshwenn989

7 ай бұрын

They'd get absolutely obliterated, not even a contest. The main advantage of the tripods in the book is how _quickly_ they can move, and even then several are still destroyed by late-Victorian era weaponry.

@VunderGuy

7 ай бұрын

late-Victorian era NAVAL weaponry. Important detail there.

@blindscience1701

7 ай бұрын

@@joshwenn989 that might be. however, aiming has improved during that time, let alone, the books didnt have shields on the tripod either. plus the advancement of tech, was greatly improved upon. Of course, I didnt suggest Wotw Golith an anime movie based after retro the tech of the book to pre ww1. So I think there is a slim victory with the 15%. Plus to make things intresting should we for go or add Roswell crash to add the Marines?

Enjoy your content greatly. One on the battle at Alamo would be interesting. Maybe 2 squads, not quite a full Vietnam era platoon.

In case no one has yet to mention it, the town of Bladensburg, is pronounced locally with a long a. Blay densburg.

The Rough Riders had left there horses back in New York, as that was the only way to get to Cuba fast enough. I do not think that they picked up any replacements, as TR was the only man on horseback who was on San Juan Hill, leading his own Rough Riders and two regiments of Buffalo Soldiers (Black Cavalry troops from the West, with white officers like John J. “Black Jack” Pershing).

I want to echo others about the naval battles. Maybe something like Commodore Dewey with USS Olympia and Baltimore going to help the USS Constitution defeat the British fleet in the War of 1812 instead of running for 56 hours, or going to the Revolution and helping destroy the fleet in Boston during the Battle of Bunker Hill.

How about a group of modern US soldiers in relief of the battle of Khe Sanh in the vietnam war. The relief soldiers do have 60 ish years of advancements on their sides, but they probably would still have quiet a problem with the VCs.

Setting the stage is crucial to postulating a reasonable scenario. The formula works. Keep it up! =^[.]^=

@ParryThis

7 ай бұрын

Yes! Thank you!

Have a battle between the easy riders and the rough riders, maybe 2 on 2

I think you need to do some more research on the effective range of the Brown Bess musket/smoothbore muskets in general. I recommend checking out Brandon F.'s channel where he has an in depth analysis of the effective range of 19th century musketry.

I love the set up, never heard of Bladensburg. Modern Marine Invasion force at Omaha Beach or modern 101st regiments replacing 101st at d day

@michieljuta976

6 ай бұрын

Those wouldn’t make that much a difference in that particularly scenario. The tech difference is there but not that great to make a real difference.

I assume you never heard of the Tennessee volunteers? Colonel Johnson was every bit as good a leader as Teddy. As far as Bladensburg goes, they had Commodore Barney. He had a navy but no ships. He loaded his cannons into rowboats to stop the British navy. How's that for cannonballs?

I think he meant Springfield carbines of the Trapdoor type, a single shot but lethal .45-70 with a very fast re-load time. They were powerful and accurate out to 200 yards, sometimes quite bit further, depending on the marsksman. I beleive there was a formation of black US infantry and they were armed with the Trapdoor and displayed remarkable courage at San Juan. The other US rifle was the excellent bolt action Krag-Jorgensen in .30-40 krag. A bit dated compared to the Mauser at the time, but would have been devastating against British line infantry, officers, and artillery crews.

Awesome video. Modern enough to be cool, but a time jump of less than 100 years.

@ParryThis

7 ай бұрын

Pretty much!

@ZillaFury2542

7 ай бұрын

​@@ParryThismore alternate history battles!

How about a team of SEALs in the Seminole Wars? The terrain and lack of mobility would strip a lot of SEAL advantages.

Let's give a team of Navy Seals to the Wampanoag in King Philips War next! Or maybe to the Mexica at the siege of Tenochtitlan

One modern us artillery battery at the battle of chosen resovoir

Just a nitpick about this excellent video, Maryland residents pronounce it BLADE-nsburg, like the cutting portion of a knife.

@pauloneil8531

7 ай бұрын

I posted that as well, hadn't seen your reply.

One possibility, with their mobility because of being mounted the Rough Riders could have been deployed forward to oppose the British crossing the Anacostia River. Inflict casualties, especially among the officers, and then withdraw to strike the British flanks after they crossed. The British would have been weakened and somewhat disorganized before reaching the main defensive line. Interesting scenario. The biggest problem might be the speed with which they'd run through their basic load of ammunition.

The British had over 100 ships of the line which after Napoleon was beaten in 1815 could have been sent to face the 6 American frigates(3 of which including the flagship of the USN USS President had been captured)plus tens of thousands of officers and men who had spent a decade or more fighting; oddly the US wanted peace by then. We have also to remember that by 1814 the US economy had been destroyed

@pauloneil8531

7 ай бұрын

davidmcintyre8145 At this time the British also wanted peace. Negotiations were about to begin.

@davidmcintyre8145

7 ай бұрын

@@pauloneil8531 The British may have wanted peace but unlike the US whose economy had been strangled did not need peace

@pauloneil8531

7 ай бұрын

@@davidmcintyre8145 Well the 10 percent of the merchant fleet of Great Britain, captured by privateers, didn't help your economy much. (The US also lost 10 percent of our merchant fleet.) But for a country that had had its economy "destroyed" It recovered quite nicely. Our shipyards were intact and Europe wanted our tobacco, coal, and wheat. So much money was made off Captured UK shipping that Baltimore became for a time, the second largest city in the US. At the US Naval Academy they teach that the war was fought by the US and Great Britain, won by Canada, and lost by the Native American tribes.

Just roosevelt as a leader would have probably been enough. Adding in the rough riders, easy victory.

3:05 Rip Hanz :(

Can you do 5 Viet Cong V. 1T-Rex?

How about having a WW1 German battalion (or even a full division) on the side of the Confederacy in the Battle of Gettysburg?

Could you do what could a Korean War unit do at the battle of Waterloo

Can you do a single Maxim Machine gun at the Battle of Austerlitz?

Can you do what if one Battalion of Modern Mexican Marines joined the Mexican American War?

3 squadrons of F-35s at the Bay of Pigs invasion (72 aircraft) alternatively, same 3 squadrons during the Vietnam War

Does Teddy realize that HIS house the British are going to burn down? Not that it would make him less...antogonistic.

@superplushtiman7ti075

7 ай бұрын

At this point in time he was just an army officer

Marine platoon off at iwajima at Little bighorn. Or 300 Spartans in futile Japan

@spikespa5208

6 ай бұрын

SAS squadron helping British retreat from Kabul 1842.

15% is actually much better than average for even special forces in a firefight.

Also without any mg, assuming that the navy contingent, marines & sailors were pratically the only ones to really fight, was present, so Teddy 's troops could rely on some real soldiers. With these, the outcome would be similar to Bunker Hill 's video, with most, if not all, the British officers dead, a group of RR could also make a dashing sally against British guns, an hit & run tactic, killing the gunners before they could react and nailing them. With their repeaters then they could utterly decimate the remaining enemy troops. P.s. a group of them could act either as rearguard and, more important, to avoid that the militians rout away.

So who won?

I think if you had just brought Roosevelt to the battle and given him command of the American troops they would have win.

Soooo, do the AVC guys get their machine guns, Gatling guns, smokeless powder, and revolvers and repeating rifles? Sure, tech makes a difference. Read Turtledove’s book Guns of the South.

What if Napoleon, had a B-52 at Waterloo?

@spikespa5208

6 ай бұрын

Conventional or nuclear ordinance?

Medieval pikemen in the battle of Longewala. Do it.

YEET

@ParryThis

7 ай бұрын

YOTE

Yeah my ancestors…would have quickly retreated and got back on to the Royal Navy ships! No way you can compete with the range and rate of fire of 1900 vs 1812 weapons. The only chance for the British would have been to somehow separate the 200Rough Riders from the ineffective 1812 American militia , then have the Rough Riders run out of ammo without killing half the 4500 British soldiers first. RETREAT MEN! That’s my call for the Brits.

god the rough riders uniforms are sexy as hell

How about using modern aircraft at the battle of pearl harbor if America had enough warning. Or use the modern aircraft for the battle of midway.

@alessiodecarolis

7 ай бұрын

With Harpoon missiles it would be an one sided massacre, the japanese fleet would be severely mauled without seeing ANY enemy aircraft, also if their armour was strong, the aircraft carriers would be a primary target, a single missile hitting an hangar would be devastating.

@lawrencecascio16

7 ай бұрын

I saw one that someone else did on this. If I remember correctly (which I may not have) one carrier lost to the Japanese fleet. I'm not buying that one.

Wow 😂

one leopard a6 at kursk

How history will change if 100 Navy Seals (or different commanders) helped Robert E. Lee during battle of Gettysburg?

@user-jo8di1gq4k

7 ай бұрын

Who would the war have changed in Lee joined the union

Rough Riders at Gettysburg

@robertpartee

7 ай бұрын

The union wins on day 1. Irl the union cavalry under col gamble manages to slow the larger confederate force so the union can capture the favorable terrain. With rough rider assistance I think the confederate vanguard (commanded by Hill) gets chewed up something awful. Maybe bad enough for Lee to realize he should withdrawal. If day 2 happens teddy’s men continue to chew up whatever unfortunate confederate general they meet. If you put teddy on the confederate side and he somehow doesn’t immediately switch sides out of loyalty to the United States he would have plowed through the significantly weaker union force commanded by gamble seizing the higher ground. Union forces arrive and either attempt a counter offensive and lose badly followed by a withdrawal or withdrawal immediately and look for a better place to engage the confederates perhaps closer to DC.

The 2700 American soldiers you're removing from Bladensburg... Let's find somewhere interesting to send them! They don't like the British... I know! The English Civil War/War of the Three Kingdoms in the mid-1600s. They're still using flintlock rifles in 1812, so the technology difference is actually less than the Rough Riders over the redcoats, despite the fact that they're traveling further back in time. But still, they have reliability, accuracy, and range advantages that would be interesting to see. The soldiers of 17th century England, on the other hand, would have significant advantages if they were able to get in melee range.

Knowing the United States army of the times, they probably would have been sent to the Canadian front ! What then ? Interesting development I'd guess?? 👍

Ha! Canadians recall the war of 1812 very differently, and certainly the reasons why it happened.

@VunderGuy

7 ай бұрын

That's because Canadians are so dumb they can't tell the difference between a Canadian and Grannie Britain's regulars. They also like to forgive Grannie Britain kidnapping people against their will on the high seas. XD

@pauloneil8531

7 ай бұрын

That's because Canada won the war. According to the teaching of the US Naval Academy.

What if,,,..the US followed Pattons advice, armed the defeated Germans, and fought the USSR. Less time travel, more alternate history.