What could be the cause of building collapse in George?

Emeritus Professor of Civil Engineering at Wits University Yunus Ballim discusses with Mitchell Craig the potential causes behind the collapse of a building in George, which tragically resulted in the loss of several lives and left numerous individuals unaccounted for.
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  • @kobusvanrensburg4092
    @kobusvanrensburg4092Ай бұрын

    I was born and raised in George where my dad worked as a building inspector from the late 70's to early 2000's. I distinctly remember visiting building sites, with my dad during holidays . You would often see a site stand still for a week or two after every foundation/slab was cast. During this period the slab would be kept wet to slow curing and keep temperatures down in the concrete. It no longer happens.

  • @trishennaidoo1309

    @trishennaidoo1309

    Ай бұрын

    21 days at the least after each level is poured on a residential building is the standard

  • @fredperry523

    @fredperry523

    Ай бұрын

    Thd going rate to bribe a building inspector these days is R5000. I know of a building inspector in Milnerton who was bribed for R25k.

  • @MusehanaH

    @MusehanaH

    Ай бұрын

    Concrete is expected to have reached it's full strength in 28 days and correctly so, one would not be expected to start building on the fresh foundation concrete before the concrete has fully set. However, engineers do allow the addition of concrete columns, beams and slabs provided that the bottom slabs remain fully supported until the concrete has reached the required strength.

  • @howardsmith1685

    @howardsmith1685

    Ай бұрын

    @@trishennaidoo1309 "supposed to be the standard " yes however in this day n age you lucky if now it cures for even 7 days before starting the next pour. i cringe daily when i see even houses going up.

  • @quintinhands

    @quintinhands

    Ай бұрын

    I had a conversation with a building contractor, he said that after a couple days the concrete is 25% cured and you can build 25%of the next level. And thats how all the local contractors think where I am, and ALL the houses built here crack in less than a year

  • @deanoclothier8426
    @deanoclothier8426Ай бұрын

    Prof has said it! "...the lower levels of human behavior has no bottom..."! I put it this way. There is nothing about the behaviour of human beings that surprises me! "Profit before people!"

  • @BeXEllenttoeachother
    @BeXEllenttoeachotherАй бұрын

    The professor's response is what you'd expect from a wise professional and academic. The host's question deserves serious consideration.

  • @eisbeinGermany

    @eisbeinGermany

    Ай бұрын

    and we can think what ethnic person was the designer of the building

  • @BeXEllenttoeachother

    @BeXEllenttoeachother

    Ай бұрын

    @@eisbeinGermany You have no basis for arriving at any conclusions.

  • @eisbeinGermany

    @eisbeinGermany

    Ай бұрын

    @@BeXEllenttoeachother then you don't live in South Africa since 1994

  • @_theerealnono_7694

    @_theerealnono_7694

    Ай бұрын

    ​​@@eisbeinGermanyWho told you it was an "ethnic" person? You sound bigoted.

  • @jacobusjonck2172

    @jacobusjonck2172

    Ай бұрын

    I read somewhere that the designer is Athol Mitchell from Paarl.

  • @deondebeer4373
    @deondebeer4373Ай бұрын

    As a Director of a major construction company i can with evidence also bring under the Prof the following information - an ex student qualified Engineer from a Cape Town Varsity applied to us for an engineer position - after my investigation of her qualification i found that her maths marks in matric were 27% and science 32% - I contact the the head of that dept and ask him how is it possible that with this marks did she ever qualified to enter an engineering degree - i still await a response from them - these problem as George is going to happens more in the future with the Varsities that push incompetent Professionals In the market

  • @lwandongonyama3743

    @lwandongonyama3743

    Ай бұрын

    Obviously that one paid his/her way in. 27% that's level two in mathematics, it's impossible for that person to comprehend the level of mathematics that is offered at varsity. I myself was on a waiting list for civil engineering even though I was meeting the minimum requirements for admission. I got admitted purely on luck due to availability of space.

  • @BongelaMnguni

    @BongelaMnguni

    Ай бұрын

    That's why it's important to do a background check of an institution for a particular qualification. There are many desperate institutions in this country. It should be a norm that every institution that offers Engineering, there must be a minimum 70% for math and science for admission

  • @louisuperfly
    @louisuperflyАй бұрын

    My initial thoughts were and I stick to them. Poor workmanship, fly by night Contractors who just wants to make a quick buck and vanish. Quality control standards was bypassed and things got signed off without the proper inspections. Now it came and bit them in the ass. Unfortunate for all the victims and families involved. Condolences

  • @faniecremer4899

    @faniecremer4899

    Ай бұрын

    The quality of imported cement as well as slump tests and cube tests.

  • @bonelelamene7918

    @bonelelamene7918

    Ай бұрын

    Poor workmanship. Cheap material... Fast track the project equals disaster. The families should sue wc public works and construction company.

  • @harryclarencealexander9161

    @harryclarencealexander9161

    Ай бұрын

    Poor design, corruption in passing plans and overloading of basement columns rather than workmanship is the likely cause.

  • @eisbeinGermany

    @eisbeinGermany

    Ай бұрын

    and ethnic people in new SA being contracted to do the work,

  • @eisbeinGermany

    @eisbeinGermany

    Ай бұрын

    @@Leslie54272 I stayed in South Africa until January 2018,I know that since 1994 most of the highly qualified white men like me were retrenched to make way for unqualified people who bought,buys their qualifications,

  • @ianoverll692
    @ianoverll692Ай бұрын

    The professor make much sense.

  • @faniecremer4899

    @faniecremer4899

    Ай бұрын

    The first person that speaks sense.

  • @patrickcannell2258

    @patrickcannell2258

    Ай бұрын

    It is possibly still our best civil faculty. Although UCT guys have spoken sense.

  • @4mileseast478
    @4mileseast478Ай бұрын

    Unqualified Construction Company Owners questionably getting their horrendous building plans passed. Whosoever passed the plans should be held accountable also, because this is their work. People entrusted with keeping South Africans safe, are bending the rules for one reason or the other, mostly incompetence or kickbacks. Now people are dead, must the responsible parties be allowed to go on have a hotdog and go on to build other condemned buildings?

  • @harryclarencealexander9161

    @harryclarencealexander9161

    Ай бұрын

    You've nailed it. Greed and corruption.

  • @edwinnetto6248

    @edwinnetto6248

    Ай бұрын

    Company owners are not holding shovels, pouring concrete or laying bricks, the workers who are trapped are the people who do these functions!

  • @jacobusjonck2172

    @jacobusjonck2172

    Ай бұрын

    You are wrong. The design engineer is responsible.

  • @jeremyreid9582

    @jeremyreid9582

    Ай бұрын

    @@jacobusjonck2172 you are obviously not an engineer !

  • @jacobusjonck2172

    @jacobusjonck2172

    Ай бұрын

    @@jeremyreid9582 sorry, but I only have 40 years experience as a structural engineer

  • @sandilsgqoboka4303
    @sandilsgqoboka4303Ай бұрын

    Emeritus Prof Billim, one of the best in the country

  • @anneleonard739

    @anneleonard739

    Ай бұрын

    Such a calm and informative expert. I hope millions saw this interview.

  • @steveleroux6116
    @steveleroux6116Ай бұрын

    Try the construction mafia cutting corners on materials costs and total incompetence

  • @premilajohn5693

    @premilajohn5693

    Ай бұрын

    The construction mafia has been a scourge to the building industry, I know of companies who have had to shut down because of these criminals! They are all over in each industry they have formed gangs to extort money ! All with the blessing of the anc government,to whom lives do not matter

  • @MusehanaH

    @MusehanaH

    Ай бұрын

    Is that what happened in this case?

  • @Arti-ficiallyChi
    @Arti-ficiallyChiАй бұрын

    What happened to SABS approved material? ..

  • @sophiaotto7513

    @sophiaotto7513

    Ай бұрын

    Question I more than often ask

  • @johnnyeveritt5695

    @johnnyeveritt5695

    Ай бұрын

    Recent Past Investigations Reveal That The SABS Is NOT Of The Reputation and / or Technical Capability Of Decades Past; Failing In Various Sectors Of Its Responsibility and Oversight .... ! 😡💩🪰

  • @MusehanaH

    @MusehanaH

    Ай бұрын

    @johnnyeveritt5695, quit lying...The SABS in any event will not be able to test every bag of cement that comes out of a factory. That is not what they do. You also will not point to any collapse now and in the past where SABS was at fault.

  • @eisbeinGermany

    @eisbeinGermany

    Ай бұрын

    vanished in 1994

  • @pietervanbreda4360

    @pietervanbreda4360

    Ай бұрын

    BEE

  • @leoniea138
    @leoniea138Ай бұрын

    Lot of buildings going up fast in our town....its really scary...

  • @anthonysalgado5118

    @anthonysalgado5118

    Ай бұрын

    It will happen as in China a lot of these structures will be collapsing soon.

  • @dantevanniekerk
    @dantevanniekerkАй бұрын

    has the contractor LIATEL owner been found, and interviewed??? where is Theuns and what does he have to say for himself and his actions???

  • @tanagwembe2348
    @tanagwembe2348Ай бұрын

    So it was a catastrophic failure. Well said Prof. Good assessment. Its painful, when speed and pressure is put on a Contractor, thereby compromising quality and ultimate safety.

  • @jeanoliver3573
    @jeanoliver3573Ай бұрын

    my heart goes out to everyone who is assisting to get our brothers and sisters ❤

  • @basedsigma5634
    @basedsigma5634Ай бұрын

    Build with proper ratio of cement, with qualified civil engineers.

  • @sizwes1771
    @sizwes1771Ай бұрын

    Accelerated construction, lack of back propping, and the urgency for occupation have killed so many people.

  • @JohnComley
    @JohnComleyАй бұрын

    There are two reasons for such a collapse: 1. Poor Structural Design - which is the responsibility of the structural engineer, and 2. Poor Construction - which, in a catastrophic failure such as this, could be the cutting of corners on steel used in the floor/roof slabs and columns, and/or the grade/quality of the concrete used. Another potentially fatal practice is the rotation of floor/roof slab support scaffolding for use in higher floor/roof slabs, meaning that support scaffolding on lower floor/roof slabs is removed for use higher up in the structure to save on scaffolding hiring costs, but if removed before the concrete has reached the required strength, this practice can lead to a catastrophic failure of the now unsupported (scaffolding removed) lower floor/roof slab, which now has the full weight of the freshly cast floor/roof slab above transferred onto the unsupported slab through the support scaffolding of the upper floor/roof slab, which happens to be a FAR higher dead load than what the floor/roof slabs are designed for (ie. humans and furniture). I'm not a betting man, but if I was asked to hazard a guess, it would be THIS: the removal of scaffolding on lower floor/roof slabs, possibly combined with skimping (cutting back to save money) on reinforcing steel in the floor/roof slabs and columns, and possibly the use of low grade concrete (again, to save money). A video I watched shows NO top reinforcing steel in the collapsed slab, as well as completely 'clean' reinforcing bars, a sure sign that the concrete was under-strength. RIP to those poor souls lost, and condolences to all the families who have lost loved ones. NOTE: This is speculation ONLY based on what I have seen!

  • @earlstonmorton8336
    @earlstonmorton8336Ай бұрын

    Good morning well spoken prof....it's all about rushing building work.....I still believe any brickwork must stand to rest it's not about overnight and continuing next day.....

  • @user-md4op6ko3y
    @user-md4op6ko3yАй бұрын

    Well said Professor a man of knowledge

  • @ARenewedmind
    @ARenewedmindАй бұрын

    For sure there must be investigating the people who work for the municipality and have to approve initial design, intermittent inspections and quality testing of concrete etc. So heads must roll surely?

  • @leonhue722
    @leonhue722Ай бұрын

    Looks like a sub-economic apartment block where everything is done cheap and nasty. If there wasn't any obvious signs beforehand, such as structural cracks, creaking and cracking sounds, doors beginning to not close etc and pipes starting to leak then I'd speculate that there was a catastrophic failure in the foundations.

  • @Randomequestrian-pm4hl

    @Randomequestrian-pm4hl

    Ай бұрын

    It was under construction so I'm not sure doors were even in yet? Likewise plumbing pipes might not have been in, and if they were, would probably not even be operational.

  • @leonhue722

    @leonhue722

    Ай бұрын

    ​@Randomequestrian-pm4hl An earlier report stated that workers were just adding the finishing touches ???

  • @Randomequestrian-pm4hl

    @Randomequestrian-pm4hl

    Ай бұрын

    @@leonhue722 I don't disagree, although in the tragedy and chaos reports are understandably a bit variable. My impression is that the structure was not at a "finishing touches" stage but I think time and a deep and proper investigation will give answers. I certainly hope the truth, whatever it proves to be, will be found. At least to the point of preventing any other repeat events to this terrible loss of life.

  • @ROBO979
    @ROBO979Ай бұрын

    In a nut shell 1. design checks were they done by competent engineers and passed. 2. Contractors credentials and competence checked by owners and engineers. 3. Were strict safety measures and standards in place, practised and adhered to.4. Were the relevant quality inspections done on materials before construction commenced and approved by engineers. 5. Site management and supervision and Quality inspector competency checked and approved. Any incompatence found in any of the above could of played a part in collapse of this building. Speculativly Regarding Construction mafia, demanding payment of up to 30% of contract value, it may lead to contractor cutting corners during construction regarding quality and sans specifications

  • @MkuluClive-ls5qj
    @MkuluClive-ls5qjАй бұрын

    Were the slabs tied over the colours or not? This has happened before. The slab slides down the columns.

  • @user-ci7co6mo8p
    @user-ci7co6mo8pАй бұрын

    Key word QUALITY.

  • @not.likely
    @not.likelyАй бұрын

    As the Prof says, there's a possibility of a combination of problems at play, not just one. Hubrous hasn't been mentioned as one. Well, it's not actually a practise as such, but it allows a dangerous attitude to prevail that works contra best practises.

  • @riaanenyolande
    @riaanenyolandeАй бұрын

    When was this building completed

  • @janvanheerden4681
    @janvanheerden4681Ай бұрын

    Shoddy workmanship and inferior materials.

  • @gordonpillay1445
    @gordonpillay1445Ай бұрын

    Nothing is unfortunate it's stupidity

  • @kaizershozei8720

    @kaizershozei8720

    Ай бұрын

    I agree.....just as most vehicle accidents are not "accidents"

  • @user-md4op6ko3y
    @user-md4op6ko3yАй бұрын

    Apparently the plans were changed quite late to build another floor

  • @jeanoliver3573
    @jeanoliver3573Ай бұрын

    In my prayers and thoughts

  • @leoniea138
    @leoniea138Ай бұрын

    I loved studying at Wits back in the day

  • @uefa6723

    @uefa6723

    Ай бұрын

    Prof Elvin was a nightmare, but he gave us the edge.

  • @Mothernature_voice
    @Mothernature_voiceАй бұрын

    My dad studied at wits, was a qs with g5, g5 is now gone. I audit construction sites... Shortcuts.

  • @user-ll8hn6dz2j
    @user-ll8hn6dz2jАй бұрын

    Not enoughf drying time for concrete and removing seports to soon. Can be mixeture of cement was to little building to fast upper level witch can cause concrete slab to give way colap s. My opinion

  • @lielasmotivationstation
    @lielasmotivationstationАй бұрын

    The question will remain, are all the employment involved in this construction corporate and trained in the position they work? Because the big problem in South Africa today are that people who trained for how many years doesn't get jobs cause they suddenly need matric. I dont see that matricilants are trained to construct buildings or any skilled work whatsoever. How many lives are still going to take before people realize what going on here

  • @liongod1000

    @liongod1000

    Ай бұрын

    *_ "EVERY Tom, Dick and Harry with a Trowel & Spirit Level is now a BUILDER"!! _*

  • @ahmedseedat2272
    @ahmedseedat2272Ай бұрын

    Imported and locally produced cement are subject to regulatory testing in South Africa. The Prof should have his facts in place.

  • @meisievannancy

    @meisievannancy

    Ай бұрын

    Also wetting cement does not weaken it. It actually is better to keep it wet longer to make concrete stronger.

  • @liongod1000

    @liongod1000

    Ай бұрын

    @@meisievannancy *_ He said WHILE IT WAS POURED..... Not after it was Cast! _*

  • @meisievannancy

    @meisievannancy

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@liongod1000Wet concrete settles and the water drains off. Too wet then could cause the mix to not be homogenous but trucks arriving with water and too little concrete is unlikely as the consistency will be draining water off constantly and the developers would complain they are getting trucks of water and not cement.

  • @krishgounder5116
    @krishgounder511629 күн бұрын

    What are the responsibilities of the Building Inspectors? 😢.

  • @dirktjallinks5781
    @dirktjallinks5781Ай бұрын

    There are some serious protocols to be followed when a building is constructed. Firstly the structural engineer is responsible for the design of the structural elements such as foundations, floor slabs and columns. Secondly he is also responsible to inspect the works such as the steel specification, concrete strength etc. as well as the time schedule when support scaffolding may be removed. I'm not making any accusations but neglecting these issues can lead to this type of tragedy. The council which approved the plans cannot be held accountable because they take no responsibility for structural integrity. Therefore I can only find 2 parties accountable for this accident and that is the structural design engineer and the main contractor. If there was a project manager full time on site he could also be questioned when it comes to materials being stacked on areas causing overloading.

  • @anthonysalgado5118
    @anthonysalgado5118Ай бұрын

    Where did they buy the concrete and cement?????

  • @liongod1000

    @liongod1000

    Ай бұрын

    *_ NO DOUBT .... CHINESE!! _*

  • @user-sm3ex4pf7z
    @user-sm3ex4pf7zАй бұрын

    Very sad what happened?? At the same breath...think of it...the lives that departed were sacrifices to the more or worse scenario if this incident took place after occupation!!?? It would have catastrophic...things happen in this country

  • @boitumelomasipa4990
    @boitumelomasipa4990Ай бұрын

    I raise my eyebrows because the problems prof identifies don't adequately point to the probable wrongdoing from the people who were likely to make money on this structure… Blaming the quality of the cement, a worker putting water on some cement or driving a truck on the site, workers building too fast, workers being poorly trained and not properly supervised. Amazing! What about the chance of commercial interests overriding protocols and not being willing to take warnings from concerned workers? Watch the News24 interview of a constructor who was in sight of you and is interested in a less theoretical explanation. May God rest the souls who died 🙏🏿

  • @Mocheso22
    @Mocheso22Ай бұрын

    If you watch closely, you could see dust cloud blown from beneath prior whole structure collapsed. Indication that the failure came from ground level, suspect could be poor structure load distribution. 2, From one worker interviewed, the pillar spacing at ground level was too wide. That makes sense as the building collapsed vertically/inward. 3, From the photos of the building as the construction was undergoing, the building was covered in bricks, with few large window spaces. This old architect design that rendered the buildings super heavy. Hence nowadays budings use glass and aluminium to cover the building and partition the rest of the interior. That reduces significant weight.

  • @chrisnothnagel4910
    @chrisnothnagel4910Ай бұрын

    100% prof

  • @06Shibby
    @06ShibbyАй бұрын

    Everyone in the comments have valid points, but dont forget the architects and designers and ultimately the client that owns the build needs to be blamed too, they constantly change designs and modify plans and then still push builders and contractors to perform and push to complete on time, and what happens then, whats the reward for being pushed, nothing but a nice mail saying that late penalties will be enforced, which isn’t a couple of hundred rands per day, its thousands. So that gets pushed onto contractors and then shortcuts are taken, is the concrete slab cured correctly, no sir, but it should hold! The world is in a rush, good things come to those who wait, but not anymore and definitely not to those waiting for their family member’s to come home. May God bless them and their loved ones under that mountain of stress, impatience and disappointment. I would like to see the architects and clients on site and helping people out of the dirt they put them in, maybe their eyes will open.

  • @africacan
    @africacanАй бұрын

    What surprises most are the few rescue workers and little heavy duty lifting and removing machines on this emergency operation for a 5 storey building collapse involving 81 trapped persons.At that slow speed its going to take several weeks to rescue and recover.😢 It's like the rescue operation chiefs already decided the fate of the workers under the rubble. 😢

  • @jeannetteviviers9851

    @jeannetteviviers9851

    Ай бұрын

    You have no idea how complicated a rescue operation in a case like this is. It's not like pick up sticks!!

  • @catherinethemba

    @catherinethemba

    Ай бұрын

    Such an ignorant slanderous comment.

  • @sophiaotto7513

    @sophiaotto7513

    Ай бұрын

    It seems to be more complicated than that - if I listen to what the professor has to say. So sad though.😢

  • @anthonyschimper7585
    @anthonyschimper7585Ай бұрын

    IN MY OPINION BEE CAN BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE

  • @user-js5fe5kt4j

    @user-js5fe5kt4j

    Ай бұрын

    Thats the thing given unqualified guys these type of tenders 😮

  • @neostiny6076
    @neostiny6076Ай бұрын

    Where is the SABS these days?

  • @ingrid20234
    @ingrid20234Ай бұрын

    If a design and construction flaw, will the whole truth ever emerge ? The blame game will cause much confusion ? Obfuscations ? Cover-ups. Greed? Short-cuts? Race for time to finish the project as indicated and promised ? Competence, training and oversight of construction workers. Yes, sabotage crossed my mind as well. This will not be a surprise. The construction mafia wanting to send a message to all new construction projects, especially with the truly sad loss of multiple lives and the consequent brand, image and financial implications ? Greed is such an awful social disease.

  • @MusehanaH
    @MusehanaHАй бұрын

    Sorry but I do not care if an expert or professor is speculating what the cause could be, the fact is that, it is still a speculation. What he has raised are ifs, buts, apparently's, could be that...all of which are still speculations and rumours. The fact is that there are checks and balances to be used to emsure that inferior material is never used and that happens throughout the construction process...At the end of the day, someone is responsible and the only way to identify that someone is to first conclude what the cause of the collapse was

  • @carelwentzel2030
    @carelwentzel2030Ай бұрын

    We can not wait time is money short cut prof is quite correckt.

  • @dumisanisibanda7772
    @dumisanisibanda7772Ай бұрын

    Time lines, cost savings, rush rush rush.. this is the results

  • @patrickcannell2258

    @patrickcannell2258

    Ай бұрын

    Root of all this is money and again money.

  • @aivarspriede5145
    @aivarspriede5145Ай бұрын

    Collect minutes of every site meeting..any piece of paper relevant to the construction...vos ...site diaries...concrete cube records ...clients instructions...foundation tests. In court where this will end up anything is admissable as evidence.

  • @TheRadRingo

    @TheRadRingo

    Ай бұрын

    100% chance there was no site diary on site for this project...then there would be a record of how early they started building on the foundation.

  • @obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou
    @obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrouАй бұрын

    How can they just add another floor,once the first floors are cast surely another floor cant be added,lots of investigations,lots of shenanigans go on with projects today,wasnt there a collapse in kwazulu a few yrs back

  • @jacobusjonck2172

    @jacobusjonck2172

    Ай бұрын

    They also added a parking basin and it were those lower columns that failed from the footage I saw.

  • @marthadaffue3430
    @marthadaffue3430Ай бұрын

    A 5th floor was added???

  • @harryclarencealexander9161

    @harryclarencealexander9161

    Ай бұрын

    Greed and corruption

  • @dharammagovender6033
    @dharammagovender6033Ай бұрын

    Unqualified builders

  • @olgahucklesby7263
    @olgahucklesby7263Ай бұрын

    This event is clear structural and specifications defect...overall human expertise defect ...profiteering resulting in substandard and deadly buildings

  • @Codydoggy
    @CodydoggyАй бұрын

    Blah blah, we all know it was just incompetence

  • @mornevandenberg296
    @mornevandenberg296Ай бұрын

    Price before quality

  • @luckyngcobo6073
    @luckyngcobo6073Ай бұрын

    Why deleted my comment?

  • @mbothosiyah696
    @mbothosiyah696Ай бұрын

    Look at the Rebars diameter.

  • @sybillevin7298
    @sybillevin7298Ай бұрын

    Sabotage crossed my mind.

  • @user-yk6do2ou5f
    @user-yk6do2ou5fАй бұрын

    That is the tesult of. Computer !!! Ppl dont know and think wrong !!

  • @patrickcannell2258

    @patrickcannell2258

    Ай бұрын

    I am an electrical engineer. I am beginning to hate computers as people can't think for themselves anymore.

  • @powertechnical

    @powertechnical

    Ай бұрын

    I see the computer made you write improper sentences

  • @gordonpillay1445
    @gordonpillay1445Ай бұрын

    If it's said serious neglect why isn't the owners brought to justice fast. An expert has said it. What r the police waiting for

  • @powertechnical

    @powertechnical

    Ай бұрын

    So the police must just arrest people without a proper investigation? Engineers must first inspect all elements to identify the root cause.

  • @user-js5fe5kt4j
    @user-js5fe5kt4jАй бұрын

    Unqualified its that simple then you wonder how these people get the tender 😮so many people died due to corners being cut

  • @martinawrensch6527
    @martinawrensch6527Ай бұрын

  • @mbothosiyah696
    @mbothosiyah696Ай бұрын

    Most people ignore natural forces, like gravity. This phenomenon is a attracting, downward force. There's a relationship between mass and gravity. - Gravity is the attractive pull between two objects that have mass. The strength of gravity is directly proportional to the amount of mass of each object. In other words, the larger the objects, the greater the gravitational attraction between them.

  • @harryclarencealexander9161

    @harryclarencealexander9161

    Ай бұрын

    Yes...and the longer the zol, the more shit you talk.

  • @mbothosiyah696

    @mbothosiyah696

    Ай бұрын

    I need to smoke, please wait. @@harryclarencealexander9161

  • @MadeinSA658
    @MadeinSA658Ай бұрын

    So in other words BEEeeee.....😢😢

  • @mbulelomankonkwana8038
    @mbulelomankonkwana8038Ай бұрын

    The fact that it collapsed straight down to me is suspicious.

  • @marky5493

    @marky5493

    Ай бұрын

    yes me too i thought if it collapsed it would have gone straight up......

  • @user-qu6ec8oy2t
    @user-qu6ec8oy2tАй бұрын

    Its ANC!

  • @janrdoh
    @janrdohАй бұрын

    let's hope this is not the start of chinese type "tofu dreg" building methods.

  • @arendsearendse8847
    @arendsearendse8847Ай бұрын

    Cheap labour costs lives. Extremely responsible.

  • @user-ix4mq9fe6j
    @user-ix4mq9fe6jАй бұрын

    Poor workmanship and Materials

  • @user-fg9ow9tv3d
    @user-fg9ow9tv3dАй бұрын

    The question is realy was the risk really identified? Was the geotechnical study done to determine the profile of the geology and together with that the hydrological study. Environmental impact assessment conducted or not or at least a Basic Environmentlal impact assessment by a registered Environmental Impact Practitioner. Was there an environmental management plan in place and was it managed on a daily basis, Was the SHE officials SACPCMP certified or nor? The Overall EMP shoul;d stipulate emergency response in such an event and how to deal with it. Most probably from my experience risk assessments on construction sites are done in the office and not at the workplace WHICH IS SIMPLY WRONG!!!!! SHE file was it a life file meaning updated daily or as per frequency stipuled by legislation. A lot of foreigners on the site what hapenned to the principle of sourcing employment from the local communities. Some questions to be answered Condolences to the families and relatives that were affected by this.

  • @johnsweeney6072
    @johnsweeney6072Ай бұрын

    Time equals money. Money equals greed

  • @G.DD3SS
    @G.DD3SSАй бұрын

    Sabotage? Construction mafia? WTF?

  • @salalamaallie7315
    @salalamaallie7315Ай бұрын

    They don't use artisans to build the buildings anymore this happens when they used cheap labour

  • @TheodoreAndor
    @TheodoreAndorАй бұрын

    Not before 1994 i can promise you

  • @luckyngcobo6073

    @luckyngcobo6073

    Ай бұрын

    The main things, greedy and selfish. The most of people who were on site are undocumented foreigners.

  • @Daimlerxy_

    @Daimlerxy_

    Ай бұрын

    How does politics get into this?🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @rowannandlall5060

    @rowannandlall5060

    Ай бұрын

    Lol but the DA led mayor approved these plans.

  • @rowannandlall5060

    @rowannandlall5060

    Ай бұрын

    You can also look at the names of the lead engineers and project managers. Perhaps do this before you make comments like this.

  • @emajange380

    @emajange380

    Ай бұрын

    This disaster is littered with white western cape "professionals" fyi

  • @altahancock6916
    @altahancock6916Ай бұрын

    Greedy people at the top don't care about normal humans, afterall is us ♟ that makes the Kings🤴 filthy rich!!

  • @nielwilliams4687
    @nielwilliams4687Ай бұрын

    ANC and the building Mafia.

  • @edwinnetto6248
    @edwinnetto6248Ай бұрын

    Bad workmanship! Bad supervisors!

  • @ruthcarter1360
    @ruthcarter1360Ай бұрын

    Construction Mafia...bad workmanship and substandard quality materials... Sea sand instead of proper concrete

  • @janhenderson6774
    @janhenderson6774Ай бұрын

    BEE!!!

  • @user-vl1mq7ww5n
    @user-vl1mq7ww5nАй бұрын

    Sabotage!!

  • @ericlategan3563
    @ericlategan3563Ай бұрын

    I very much doubt a "design flaw"... the prof should know better to even make such a comment if he is not familiar with the design drawings. Councils takes months to approve building plans with all their bureaucratic red tape with the result that the lost time in revenue and profits are under tremendous pressure to complete a development of this nature in a shorter time span. There are many factors that could play-in on a sudden collapse.

  • @lukealadeen7836

    @lukealadeen7836

    Ай бұрын

    Taking months to approve should mean that the designs are being thoroughly examined?

  • @ericlategan3563

    @ericlategan3563

    Ай бұрын

    @@lukealadeen7836 examining building plans are just a formal process in terms of SANS10400 regulations. PX's do not check, nor qualify a rational design, neither the material specified or the construction methodology. Constructing the building is a completely different exercice and the municipality (building inspectors) bear no responsibility. If you have no knowledge of a municipal approval system then rather refrain from making a simplistic comment.

  • @deonvanrensburg5512
    @deonvanrensburg5512Ай бұрын

    Typical South Africa since 1994

  • @TheodoreAndor
    @TheodoreAndorАй бұрын

    Cheap and unqualified people used. Normal real builders use Strength of Material science etc. Municipality took short cuts. Where are the real Builders?????

  • @rianaduraan4053

    @rianaduraan4053

    Ай бұрын

    It is not the Municipality that took short cuts, please do your homework.

  • @lukealadeen7836

    @lukealadeen7836

    Ай бұрын

    I heard it's a white company who did the design and building work

  • @sherwinaugustus74

    @sherwinaugustus74

    Ай бұрын

    Liatel developers and neotrend. Both white companies yes Carel Steenkamp and Co.

  • @user-mq3ib1zq6g

    @user-mq3ib1zq6g

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@rianaduraan4053I am sure you still get municipal building inspectors

  • @powertechnical

    @powertechnical

    Ай бұрын

    Municipal building inspectors might know about building regulations for houses. Big construction projects requires registered engineers hired by construction companies to make sure it is all safe and they have to be on-site all of the time.

  • @user-si5zw7br5o
    @user-si5zw7br5oАй бұрын

    Cut to the chaste! What has a BBBEE contractor ever built that exemplifies safety, quality and reliability to name just a few. Black's can only build a mud hut and tin shack without structural consequences. They have to be supervised all the time.

  • @nosisantsele4987

    @nosisantsele4987

    Ай бұрын

    Cheap foreign labor and Cheap imported materials continue using these people

  • @architecturemyspace299

    @architecturemyspace299

    Ай бұрын

    It was a white company , from an unregistered company lol BEEE

  • @varsitystudents5276

    @varsitystudents5276

    Ай бұрын

    Its a white contractor, approved by the White DA government, hiring undocumented nationals for cheap labour Where do black South African and BEE get involved here

  • @user-js5fe5kt4j

    @user-js5fe5kt4j

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@architecturemyspace299 who told u it was unregistered

  • @architecturemyspace299

    @architecturemyspace299

    Ай бұрын

    @@user-js5fe5kt4j CIBD and NHBRC called and told me

  • @suebasler1917
    @suebasler1917Ай бұрын

    The properly qualified people in the building industry need to used, ie - Architects and NOT Architectural Techicians or Draftsmen; Engineers and not Engineering Technicians!!!

  • @comancheflyer4903

    @comancheflyer4903

    Ай бұрын

    A professional engineering technologist, registered with ECSA, is just as qualified in his/her specific field of competency as a professional engineer. Sometimes even better.

  • @powertechnical

    @powertechnical

    Ай бұрын

    And you are certainly not properly qualified to make comments about something you know nothing about.

  • @bjornhoffmann6008
    @bjornhoffmann6008Ай бұрын

    Again a civil engineer. Gosh these news agencies are thick. You need commentary from a Structural Engineer!! Not civils

  • @Tony-Red

    @Tony-Red

    Ай бұрын

    Structural engineering is a subdiscipline of civil engineering. A professor from one of the country's leading schools of civil engineering, who has focused extensively on concrete structures is an appropriate expert to interview. In addition, there isn't anything a structural engineer is going to tell you at this point that isn't as speculative as any other expert that's been interviewed, because the investigation is ongoing. Seems like if anyone's thick here, it's you, Hoffitjie.

  • @emajange380

    @emajange380

    Ай бұрын

    Dumb ass civil engineering is broad and structural engineering falls under it. I was trained as a civil engineer myself and specialized in structural engineering

  • @bjornhoffmann6008

    @bjornhoffmann6008

    Ай бұрын

    @@Tony-Red Tony coming out swinging. Well done, but my point stands. Was the Civil Engineer not just speculating, isn't everyone just speculating. But when I hear speculation, I'd prefer a professional in the precise field speaking to me rather than a broad generalist in the grander field of Engineering. It's a structure. Something structural failed, hence the collapse. So do us a favour and tell your journalist buddies to do us the courtesy of not insulting our intelligence. And if this academic actually has the background, then journalists need to do a better job introducing him in a way that captures his credentials like you just did

  • @powertechnical

    @powertechnical

    Ай бұрын

    Yet here you are, typing words that does not contribute anything to the speculation.

  • @kevindevilliers3572
    @kevindevilliers3572Ай бұрын

    A truck parking on one of the slabs/levels ????? Why and how would a truck get up there. Silly comment. These interviews should be done with practising Structural Eng's.

  • @manivsewparsad2511

    @manivsewparsad2511

    Ай бұрын

    This building had a basement level…

  • @kevindevilliers3572

    @kevindevilliers3572

    Ай бұрын

    @manivsewparsad2511 Yes I know, but this certainly doesn't effect the structure at all. A truck parking in the basement would be on the surface bed, and have no influence on load bearing higher up. Common sense.

  • @powertechnical

    @powertechnical

    Ай бұрын

    The point he made is that an uneven load can cause concrete to fail especially if the concrete is not dry enough or the concrete from a poor standard. He can only speculate and the structural engineer will also speculate. Only someone who is investigating the cause will be able to tell what went wrong.

  • @anthonyschimper7585
    @anthonyschimper7585Ай бұрын

    BUT WATCH THE ANC BLAME APARTHEID 🤣

  • @arlenespencer3861

    @arlenespencer3861

    Ай бұрын

    😂🤣Truth there 😂

  • @MoeketsiMoseme

    @MoeketsiMoseme

    Ай бұрын

    DA managed municipality, white owned company then us black people are blamed again but I don't blame you guys we blacks have glorified you especially so called educated blacks what a shame

  • @ivarschei2104
    @ivarschei2104Ай бұрын

    Hope it's not another ANC sponsored CADRE contractor who is a Mafia buddy. Like SODI in the Free State....

  • @karmathemis4111
    @karmathemis4111Ай бұрын

    Construction mafia and illicit cigarette trade