Great video!

I bought my Decent xl about 8 months ago and I have never had any issues and if there is a bug you can update it or always reboot it and it always fixes. Love my espresso every day I couldn't ask for a better machine.

I just ordered a DE1XL. The company is based in Hong Kong. The CEO is a Yank but the staff is multinational. They also make a video of your unit before they ship it, in case there are handling issues.

@Rydecoffeecoach

2 ай бұрын

They manufacture in Hong Kong but they are a Seattle based company and I'm fairly sure they are at least 50% American owned.

Bought a decent as my first espresso machine, it’s been great. ❤

I applaud anyone who wants to make coffee with the scrutiny of a Profit and Loss statement, but for me life is too short for me to get caffeina nervosa over the minute variance I get with a nice home setup.

Just started watch your channel, good stuff :) would like to ask you can a HX make as good espresso as a Dual Boiler ? I was looking at Profitec Pro 400 vs Lelit Elizabeth Espresso (both these machine will fit my counter) , I've read online where people have said HX even with PID is not as good as dual boilerat making espresso, I don't know why I have a Breville Barista Pro and use a Eureka Mignon Facile 50mm and I pull some great shots. Looking to upgrade machine down the road maybe end of this year, leaning towards Pro 400 and keep making great video's :)

Part 2! 🎉🎉🎉☕️

You sold me on Decent at ‘it can watch my children’ 😂

Hi Ryde I watch a lot of your videos And find them very interesting. I was looking for a professional grinder. And I just wondered what you could recommend for home use

@Rydecoffeecoach

4 ай бұрын

Thank you! 🙏 Depending on your budget and preference there are a couple of different grinders I love. Entry level: I like Breville Smart grinder pro and Baratza encore. If you want something a bit nicer and more elegant I would look at the Eureka Mignon Silenzio. My current favourite is the Timemore Sculptor 68s or 78s but that does mean you have to weigh in the beans each time. Does that help?

What do you think about Lelit Giulietta? For small cafe, i'm thinking to buy it. IT cost around 3k in my country

Sweet! Great video, thanks! You mentioned that maybe the only machine the Decent cannot replicate is a lever. What would someone miss if lever profile is not available, taste wise?

@Rydecoffeecoach

4 ай бұрын

There are lever profiles for sure but there's just one thing that separates it from a true lever and that's to do with the speed of how the portafilter fills with water when you open the lever up. Other than that you can pretty much accurately replicate all sorts of levers and other machines. 👌👌

Would you add the ECM synchronika n1 in this group? If yes, which will be the rating? If no, why? Thanks !

Rocket just launch Bicocca. Sits perfectly between that range.

Curious to know how a machine like the LM compares to any other machine with flow control (Bianca, Decent, Profitec Drive). Will flow control give you better extraction in the long run? Or does the saturated group and durability of the LM (along with prefusion options), standout enough? Thanks!

@Rydecoffeecoach

3 ай бұрын

It's hard to compare. The flow/pressure profiling means you have more control over each shot which really expands the way you can get better extractions from fresh or old coffee, light roasts and such. But if the coffee is standard and has degassed, LM will be as good.

Great video. The Decent's water supply is a con for me.

@Rydecoffeecoach

3 ай бұрын

How come? You can get it plumbed and the new models have a lid over the water reservoir which helps with keeping bugs and dirt out.

Best Machine is La Marzocco Linea Mini... easy choice. I had ECM E61 with all the options and honestly LMLM produce best cup of coffee. Why, have best temperature stability (commercial boliers) and construction quality is top of the top.

@fgarced

4 ай бұрын

No way Gaggia Classic can produce better espresso than Espresso machine with high precise temperature stability (Sanremo, La Marzocco, Slayer). The Espresso shots is the way that you can control the multiples variables like: water, time, fresh coffee beans, quality grinder, heat (200F in Medium roast) and others. Decent is a espresso machine that use thermal block to heating on demand vs traditional boiler that still having better stability with precise PIV. I had E61 ECM with all the upgrades and believe me La Marzocco produce the same coffee quality as Hi End Coffee Shops that follow all the standards. La Marzocco Linea Mini the Brew boiler literally is on the top of the portafilter, not heat loss when reach to the coffee puck, this is the temperature stability that I mention.

Hi Ryde, I've been keen to purchase a Linea Micra for some time now however I thought it was an either or in relation to adjusting the machines parameters/settings manually or alternatively, through the LM app. If adjustments/settings can only be done through their app, well that knocks it on the head for me. I'm not interested in E61 machines so I am now considering the Rancilio Silvia Pro X. I'm not sure if a later version of the Pro X is due soon in Australia whereby they may improve the drip tray but what's your thoughts overall on the pros & cons of this machine at $3,000 AUD? Also Ryde, you seem to always refer to prices in US Dollars which I understand for your US viewers but it would also be good if you mentioned the AUD as well. That's just some feedback Ryde, not meant as a criticism. Cheers, Stephen.

@Rydecoffeecoach

3 ай бұрын

Yes you're right some of the adjustments are either/or through the app. It's mostly the advanced options, so you can still make a great coffee without the app. I still think you'll love the Micra. The Rancilio Pro X is great but it isn't on the same level as the Micra.

@steph8408

3 ай бұрын

@@Rydecoffeecoach Thanks Ryde. Cheers Stephen

Regarding La Marzocco, I'm interested to see if or when they update the GS3. No doubt it produces brilliant espresso but its a bit outdated now. Products like the Sanremo You are of better value.

@fgarced

4 ай бұрын

LM Linea is the most reliable machine in La Marzocco. In my case I make the slayer mod and prefer the look of the Mini with Slayer functionality in the paddle.

@Rydecoffeecoach

4 ай бұрын

I definitely feel like they will do something with the gs3 or a model in between Mini and gs3. It feels like they want to broaden the range of home machines and the Micra is the 'entry' level. The You is a great machine too, I agree. 🙌

I think the Micra would have been a solid 9.5/10 if it had another inch between the drip tray and portafilter. That was a strange design decision. It should have been a single boiler, and just for espresso drinkers. They could have cut another $200 off the price.

@Rydecoffeecoach

2 ай бұрын

True! That was a weird decision. 🤷

@backslide311

Ай бұрын

I own the Micra and don't have an issue at all with the height from drip tray to the portafilter. I've always used a small 2 ounce cup for the shot anyways. It's a non issue imho

@backslide311

Ай бұрын

Also it's not like I'm going to rip a shot right into my yeti!😅 It's not an issue

Would love a bit of advice guys. I want to upgrade from my Sage barista express. Think I want a dual boiler but only because they seem better on reviews. Home use, I make 2 flat whites every morning and a couple of black americanos as well on weekend. The odd time we have people over so maybe do 4 back to back flat whites. I can use a smart plug for early morning wake up to reduce wait time, but would like a machine with a quicker heat to time. Not as interested in the flow controls, temperature stability etc. I'm going to buy a good grinder and just want to get a decent shot and decent steam in the least amount of time. I've spend lots of time (too much) in rabbit holes looking at all sorts. Profitec 300 and 600 Ranchilio S X Lelit Elizabeth Lelit Bianca Etc etc I know they all have pros/cons. Would like someone just to say this would be best based on my use. Thanks in advance.

@Rydecoffeecoach

2 ай бұрын

Is the choice just between those machines you listed? If so, I'm saying Profitec 600 or Lelit Bianca (although it has the flow controller). Rancilio Silvia Pro X is great too but I'm not in love with the overall chassis design compared to the e61s .

@anthonybreslin3386

2 ай бұрын

@Rydecoffeecoach thanks for getting back to me. I don't have a preference really so would use others. Just want something user friendly so that when I've dialled the grind/shot, I can basically switch on, press a button for the shot and then steam milk quickly. I can use a smart plug for mornings and to heat up faster. Would like to get a machine for £2k or less. Ideally 2k for machine and grinder (looked at the Eureka mignon digital ones).

@anthonybreslin3386

2 ай бұрын

Forgot to add, I'm not ruling out a Heat exchanger. I just thought DB are the better option. Don't know enough about them both.

@Rydecoffeecoach

2 ай бұрын

Yeh ok. You're definitely going to have to get a timer because HX and dual boilers will usually take 15-25 minutes to warm up. But once they are up they are very quick to make coffees. The other question is what aesthetic style do you like? Do you like the steampunk designs of the e61 machines (Profitec 600 & Lelit Bianca) or do you prefer the boxed in group heads like the Rancilio Silvia? I just helped someone buy an ECM Mechanika and they are the Mercedes line from a sister company who makes Profitec. All of these machines will be nice and consistent and much better than the Sage Express. Your grinder is going to be more important if you want full consistency. Get a Eureka Mignon Magnifico or similar and you'll be set.

@Rydecoffeecoach

2 ай бұрын

If you can stretch the budget, the ECM Synchronika is very similar to the Profitec 600 but better. Get the timber accents on whatever you decide to get, you won't regret that small upgrade! 🙌👌

Mate. What about the Bezzera Duo DE. AUD$4989. Volumetric dosing. PID, Dual Boiler. Rotary pump.

@Rydecoffeecoach

2 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y3x31tp_hsKonbw.htmlsi=kQRmcg5298cnzj3t&t=9m44s It's there my man!

@MrBartboy34

2 ай бұрын

@@Rydecoffeecoach LOL. I watched part 2 before I watched part 1. Thanks mate.

Easy: The best ist Xenia Espresso DBL

13:40 what kind of trippy effects are happening? :D

@Rydecoffeecoach

3 ай бұрын

🤣

Had the Micra for exactly 3 weeks before I returned it for a full refund. The whole group/boiler was loose in the crappy plastic brackets that hold it in place. This is unacceptable for LM and 3k of my UK pounds. I also found out in the process of identifying the problem that the water diffuser up behind the shower screen is PLASTIC and easily scratched as I found out. POOR!. The portafilter is garbage, aweful, fairly unstable design, cheap rubber handle. Hated the plastic inserts. I was quite sad because my expectation on LM has gone right downhill. If you have the money, and still want a LM machine, then skip the Micra and get the much better quality Mini. It was scaled and built to a lower price but still too expensive. I replaced it with the ECM Synchronika which is a dual boiler E61. It’s more premium to me and has a fantastic very premium accessories pack. The Micra weighs only 19kg and feels a bit like a toy compared to the 30kg of the tank like Synchronika. Rant over.

Rocket DOES offer flow control. Ooops

You didn’t include ECM Synchronica

Where are you getting your info from? Decent's a Hong Kong company.

@FusePB

4 ай бұрын

All the brains are USA though

@Rydecoffeecoach

4 ай бұрын

Where are YOU getting your info from? It's a Seattle company! 🤦🤦 Just because they may have a manufacturing operation in Hong Kong doesn't mean they are from that country. They also have an office in Brisbane so are they an Australian company? No!

@knottymatt

4 ай бұрын

@Rydecoffeecoach Happy to be wrong, all the info I've seen says Hong Kong based company though, with offices elsewhere.

@Rydecoffeecoach

4 ай бұрын

Appreciate your openness and I apologise for my snappy response, I'm just tired of people attacking small details on my videos sharing information. How they structure the company might be different for tax purposes but Decent Espresso is an American LLC and John lives in San Fran and they have offices in US, HK and Australia but unlike Turin, Difluid, Cafesing etc, it was founded by Americans, owned by Americans and act accordingly. I think it would be misleading to describe the company as HK, that's all. 👌

@knottymatt

4 ай бұрын

@Rydecoffeecoach well there you go. Adds a little more confidence in the brand then. Have a Sanremo You, but it highlights how good a Decent is. Eyes on the Decent 'Bengle' release in April.

Yep, they should change the name of the Decent machine. Tacky would be a better fit.