What can be made from 500 capacitors ?
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I've always wondered if building a capacitor bank out of regular small electrolyte capacitors was worth the effort. Since they are so common, you can get decent bulk discounts on them which is a big plus. Thank you for confirming that indeed expensive caps are not a requirement for a useful (and scary) capacitor bank 🙂
Why not breaking the capacitor array into 3 seagments and switch each seagment after it discharged that way you will cut the huge amperage by 3 and will increase the duration of the weld by 3
@daveogarf
2 жыл бұрын
(*segment)
@zaprodk
2 жыл бұрын
*segments
@codpug
2 жыл бұрын
*Segway
@dylanpendlebury23
2 жыл бұрын
*Subway
@logantomczak9855
2 жыл бұрын
*sensai
Your lead inductance connecting the capacitor bank to your welder and the lead inductance of the wire leads for the welder itself are limiting the peak current. Use a beefy coaxial cable (RG-8U) or at-least twist your leads (form a twisted pair tx-line) to reduce the series inductance.
@jacobp.2024
2 жыл бұрын
Just know that I would like this, if I was a tradesman and knew for certain this was good advice.
@The.Plague
2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobp.2024 If they're correct then it's good advice. If they're wrong then it can't hurt. You can never go wrong with larger cables when carrying current, especially in a situation like this. However, smaller cables can get you in trouble, especially in certain situations where they might melt and cause a fire due to overload.
I still own a fanastic MIG/MAG welder from the German company ESS. They used large capacitor banks in an assembly of many small ones in parallel. The welding result was very good, this cap bundle gave a nice punch at the beginning with full current.
@uiopuiop3472
2 жыл бұрын
my girlfrind is from t ype gsd
You got such a big, generous and expensive gift from a viewer years ago and didn't make a video right away?! Oh boy, simply no words...
It's good u waited for the review that way u can say with confidence that this is a good product and no e of the components are less durable than they should be
How about blowing up 500 capacitors as that would be so much fun!
Cool! That is pretty impressive results from a bunch of basic capacitors! I think you should make a Marx Generator with your leftover ceramic capacitors! High voltage is fun!
@suvetum6763
2 жыл бұрын
Especially fun when it hits you man good times when I used to charge myself with high voltage because I couldnt sleep! Better than xannies!!
@garygranato9164
2 жыл бұрын
+1
i loved the way as you could made a perfectly project with big transistors it was so intelligent good job boy and good luck👏👏
THIS man is insanely brave for trying this
Very much looking forward to the video where you use the film capacitors for induction heating!
At school I could reliably hit a man sized target with capacitor goo and the cardboard cap from around 20 yards using a regulation 470 uF electrolytic cap charged to 48 volts reverse biased. It shouldnt take much to make a circuit that uses a push-button to simultaneously cycle power through 500 of these caps lined up one by one, and energise a relay that pumps 48 volts through the currently 'selected' cap the wrong way. That way, you have a 500-shot machine gun ;) Even better, use a 555 timer to create the delay between 'shots', and set it up so once the 500th cap is fired, the 501st 'shot' is fired through the 555 chip itself - making the chip the 501'st 'bullet'! - 555 chips themselves make great weapons.
@carlbennett2417
2 жыл бұрын
This is a wonderfully deranged comment
KZread won't let me sleep by giving me this on my recommendation page in the middle of the night.
Me: just went to bed KZread: what can you make from 500 capasitors Me: please tell me more
@greatbullet7372
2 жыл бұрын
CLASSICS
Yea. That battery you showed is capable of 150 amps for around 5 mins. That’s a lot of current for a lot longer than a capacitor bank is capable of.
Anyone else jealous this guy recieved a gift like this?
What can you do with 500 caps? Marco Reps would plant them in a field and harvest a bumper crop the following year. Just saying.
"capacity output of 30 Celsius" 🤣
@TheGoodMorty
2 жыл бұрын
thank goodness someone else caught it lol
@helimonster3
2 жыл бұрын
Omg! I was scrolling for so long on the comments to see if anyone else noticed
@5iveflyer
2 жыл бұрын
"Current output of 30 Celsius" lol still funny tho. Didn't know we can now measure current directly with temp. It's actually the C rating meaning that battery can output 5.3Ax30 = 159 A
Nice video. Thanks
For that many caps and only to have 2 inserted with reverse polarity thats actually really amazing from i guess just assemblers viewpoint.
Очень удивился когда увидел на блоке питания AKA KASYAN, очень хороший английский у тебя) Даже не понял что ты русский))
Cool. Good luck. 👍
As a beginner in electronics, this was very helpful.
@urnoob5528
10 ай бұрын
as a beginner why do u have 500 capacitors
@Borishal
10 ай бұрын
@@urnoob5528 I don't.
Amazing video as always ❤️ Using this in audio amplifier will be awesome
I noticed a large number of 7 segment displays.... I also like 7 segment displays... Would love to see what you make with them ❤
@Flashy7
2 жыл бұрын
Connect them parallel and make a large 7 segment display! Oh, wait, it does not work that way. But he can use them as pixels for a large screen, if you watch it from far enough, you can control the brightness by lighting more or less segments of a pixel.
Thank you over the moonz, this is exactly what I needed, I'm so grateful
When I saw this in my recommended section I thought it would be a 500 bit memory cube. But a cursed battery welding station is also an option.
You don't want really lot current for spot welding, above a certain value your probes and nickel band gets basically vaporized
See?! I KNEW there was a potential use for a fairly massive bank of small capacitors... Or you can make an electric eel suit. 😉
I would love to see the peak current measurement done at a higher sampling rate. The peak was not well formed in the single shot measurement, it’s hard to tell how high it actually might have gone
I wonder how patient you have to solder all this 😀
@josephcrowley7635
2 жыл бұрын
Soldering for me is therapeutic
@davey2k12
2 жыл бұрын
He didn't solder them someone else did lol
470uF and 16V we use in a Half-Bridge inverters 12V to 230V and more if you gonna use pure sine on the output even with EGS002 ;). Electronoobs has this inverter in his YT channel, I'm building it now and have videos in general about it. Will be more as well.
Just out of curiosity how did you connect the leads off the capacitor bus, was it on the same end for the + and the -? Meaning, if you have a row of 500 caps with a + bus on one side and the - bus on the other side, where did you put the terminal connections? On the same end of of the bus for both + & -? For example if the Left side of the bus starts with capacitor 1 & the far right side of the line /bus bars is capacitor 500 (and all caps are spanning the +&- bus bars), where are the terminal connections for the bus? Are they both on the same end, either near cap 1 or near cap 500? Or did you put it in the middle? I was told that for a large cap bank the best option to get the full working value of all the caps & to deal with any ESR resistance is to put a terminal (just for example) on either the + or - bus next to cap 1 & then the other terminal connection on the opposite bus next to cap 500, so you will have terminal connections on opposite sides of the capacitor line/bus. IDK exactly why, much more knowledgeable people in electronics agreed that my setup (of 80-100 caps) would be much more efficient this way & probably get much more power out of it (but they weren't all identical caps nor all new). I'd be interested to see if there is a difference if you have the connections at opposite ends of the bus b/c if they are connected on one side, you may only use the first 50 or 100 caps at full capacity over & over, where if the other way, (I was told at least), you will use the same total energy but it will be spread out over EVERY cap. I hope this makes sense.
@stargazer7644
2 жыл бұрын
You can clearly see in the video how everything is connected. He has 20 buss bars connecting the boards together. He has a pair of conductors going from each board (6 total) from the center of each buss to the welder. Two cables in the middle or one from each end will give you about the same results. Connecting them all at one end would be worse.
nice idea
Idk why everyone complains about the KZread algorithm. This is exactly the random shit I want to watch
Arranged in a hex format would give greater density
@preddy09
2 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone put themselves through the torture of parallelizing them when oriented in hex format, especially when space isn't an issue Edit: I supposed all he had to do is shift alternating lines such that the gap is gone....but still why do even that unless necessary
@____________________________.x
2 жыл бұрын
@@preddy09 it's just a bunch of 30 degree lines, so about the same effort? I only mention it as it's more elegant and maybe someone hasn't thought of doing that
Ooooo ......lot of components....lucky you are
That LiPo battery pack is not rated for current in "Celsius". C stands for the capacity of the battery. A current rating of 30C means it could output 30 times is capacity in current. That might sound like a word salad, so let's consider the example. The bettery you have is 5300 mAh (if I remember right), and was rated for 30C discharge current. If it were 1C, that means you can output 5.3 amps. If it were rated 10 C, it could output 53 amps. And 30C means it can output 159 amps. Usually these kinds of batteries have different ratings for discharge current and charge current. It may be able to discharge 30C but can probably only charge at 2C to maybe 5C.
Ultimate device killer
A charge pump would be also very intrresting but I am unsure if you would need bipolar capacitors
@scienceandmathHandle
2 жыл бұрын
In most cases you would not(unless you expected ringing) as a charge pump always charges in the same direction, and discharges similarly. They effectively charge in parallel and discharge in series for a boost, or charge in series and discharge in parallel for a reduction. Its slightly different for a negative voltage charge pump but effectively its the same thing, just charging from positive to ground, and discharging from ground to negative. I've been thinking about charge pumps a lot lately lol! You could even make charge pumps with variable capacitance values to vary the voltage from fixed N multiplications and dividers to different value capacitors for finer voltage control up and down. Or vary different numbers of fixed values in series and parallel for different control schemes. But it will never be truly isolated as a lot of capacitors fail into shorts.... so transformers are still the way to go, in that regard.
We're having a chip shortage and here you go, having tons of chips. Sell them now and you can make millions.
25,000A? I don't think your current measurement is accurate... 3 of these FETs already have 0.6mOhm of ON resistance. Also these FETs can handle maybe maximum 4kA for 1ms.
@leonordin3052
2 жыл бұрын
The capacitors are 32 joules 16v,so 2 ampere in 1s,which is 2000a in 1 millisecond, 600a avarage in his three milliseconds of short circuit weld time. But I wonder if you got low resistance for example doing the weld directly from the capacitors with a large relay, if it would reach 25ka for lower than 0.1 milliseconds. But surely you can't spot weld with that even with high pressure the weld time is too short?
@Astri.electronics
2 жыл бұрын
Same thought here, those small FETs would desaturate way before reaching few thousand Amps. Not the mention that at 16V, 25kA would mean a total resistance of 64µΩ, just his current shunt has a higher resistance. Maybe he setup his probe to x10 while it was on x1, common mistake. 2500A would be much more plausible but still quite a lot. I would expect something like few hundreds of Amps.
@christopherscholz
2 жыл бұрын
@@Astri.electronics I stead of a shunt a Rogowsky coil would be a better way to measure current. A CT7044 goes up to 6000 A up to 50 kHz
@Astri.electronics
2 жыл бұрын
No doubt a current transformer would work better but that's not the point of this discussion.
If you had 30 of those German high voltage electrolytic capacitors it might have other uses.
I recently salvaged 8 80, 000 microfarad, 20 volt capacitors. I thought, "wow, nearly half a farad!". They were threaded posts on top and I connected them in parallel with 10 gauge wire with factory eye rings and bolts. I don't know what to do with it.
@oliverer3
2 жыл бұрын
Spot welder or maybe something with a pulsed laser?
oops 3:28 "output of 30 Celcius" haha should be 30 C, silly narrator! Gotta educate them! He does a good job regardless.
An attomic bomb? 🤤
The funniest thing to do with a lot of capacitors is putting them in series and plugging them into the wall😂
Good use !
Why can't I get a package like this?
awesome
A battery with a current output of 30 Celsius???!! What are you blabbing about there lol
@ketas
2 жыл бұрын
i come down here for it. i mean it's a c but not celsius. but i'm unsure how to properly shorten the discharge rate notion
@signalworks
2 жыл бұрын
C is the ratio of discharge current to capacity. It would have unit of ampere to amp hour. A 3 Ah battery rated at 10 C can be discharged at 30 A. Conventionally, fast charging is usually 1 C and slow charging generally happen at 0.1 C.
The LiPo battery has a current output of 30 Celsius? How does that work?
@ac281201
2 жыл бұрын
The video was probably poorly translated. It was about C rating of a battery. In this case a 30C battery with capacity of 5300mAh can output a maximum current of 159 amps (30C * 5.3Ah)
How about a bucket brigade analog audio delay?
"But this is nothing" is how I think this dude feels about this whole project lol I'm just halfway through the video thinking 'this thing can kill a man... I must make one now."
I can already hear ElectroBoom saying "let's plug it in"
Good presentation
3:28 Eternal Resistance... Lol
Caps can deliver terrifying ammounts of current.
With a current output of 30 Celsius? Nice
@JMMC1005
2 жыл бұрын
I got a giggle out of this.
I think you and thst brit that does tjkngs with like power switching ststion equipment blowing the 5000A fuse or whatever it was woild be best friends.
hmmm... Nice video. Suppose that someone worked with a capacitor manufacturer and had access to tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of C0G power conversion MLCCs with voltages in the 200V to 15,000V range. What would be the most optimum setup to try something similar with a large bank in terms of peak current? Obviously the power density would be quite a bit lower but the resistance would be too. I am guessing that minimizing the path length to the electrodes would also be massively important to take advantage of the lower internal resistance. Also ringing would be an option for a larger integration time in terms of welding over polarized caps. Just curious... for a friend.
@inse001
2 жыл бұрын
Using a giant amount of components would lead to other disadvantages. The track resistance and inductance would limit the current delivery. Also you would have to inustrially assemble those banks. And how would you repair it in case one of the MLCCs fails shorted, which they sometimes do?
хитреееец :)
A small landfill?
Soldering wasn't too bad due to PCB layout
I upgraded my moped's 20Ah 48V SLA battery to LiFePO4, and have 6x 20Ah almost new, that I bought last year and in good shape. Can I use them to arc weld using a jumper cable and 6013 welding sticks? Spot welding is nice, but I have no use for it. If I put them all in parallel, How do I limit the current to 100A~120A ?
With enough diodes, could make a x500 concroft walton voltage multiplier
@Basement-Science
2 жыл бұрын
That would literally take an hour or so to charge up just once, and it's just 4kV at most at no sustained current. Would be completely impractical unless you ran it at many kHz, and even then it's pretty pointless.
@zaprodk
2 жыл бұрын
*Cockcroft
yooooooooooooooo MAKE A LAZER WITH THIS....
@THESILeNCEmixmixmix
2 жыл бұрын
can buy the left overs..... for a lazer i was gonna make?
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@kde5fan737
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about that. How bad is it down there? here in the US prices are getting bad (highest gas we've EVER seen by 20-30%, even counting for inflation), inflation is over 9% ("official numbers" but real economists say it is more accurately 20-30% depending on state/area). Even here stuff is hard to find at times. 18 month wait for some new cars (not exotics - normal cars!!)!? Over a year for a set of tires (specific ones mind you). Some stuff is 300-600% higher than it was in Jan 2020 if it's even available. There are a lot of people hoarding - people who can still buy at old contracted prices (pre "plandemic") and then sell little by little for huge profits. There's some stuff that used to be ~1-2 cents each & were selling for 15-30 cents b/c people needed/wanted them (usually sold 1000 or 5000 at a time). Then there's the jobs & minimum wage which is still the same ($7.55/hr federally). Many employers haven't increased pay at all during this even though they can't find workers. So dry your tiers (tears btw, lol), its not very great elsewhere either.... Oh and have you seen our crime rates!? some places have had 200-300% increase over last 2 years in violent crimes. some cities are the most violent in the world. Yeah, "first world" you call us. Well SOME of use here are...
Could you make a car jump starter using those ?
@garygranato9164
2 жыл бұрын
good question
It takes guts to weld an 18650 with something like that
Pain?
So no big explosion at the end of the video?
You can make some fire crackers with 600v
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0:30 Optosymistors? What is that?
@megapro1725
2 жыл бұрын
Optocoupler
Pro tip: Put the capacitor-stack with the breadboard side pointing downwards on a metal shelve Seriously, dont do this, the lightning is really impressive and dangerous
@urnoob5528
10 ай бұрын
the fuck u mean lightning
you can make a railgun with the 500 caps
@garygranato9164
2 жыл бұрын
+1 brilliant idea
wow
You can ask electroboom!
Артур, в топ!!!!
Оу, ес ес хай май фрэнд
I would be very tempted to use that cap bank for building an EMP generator
What can be made from 500 capacitors? Nothing safe!
16 and 25 wolves
500 dead beetles
24,000 amps!!!
1 sec into video.. My first thought is.. I don't know.. something dangerous.
railgun single shot capacitor bank
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2 жыл бұрын
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@Jkauppa
2 жыл бұрын
flywheel battery storage generator is fast output
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Multi million volt Marx generator and similar circuits
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1st comment 🤗🤗
КасьянАКА? Это Ты??
@user-lf5lv4gq7o
2 жыл бұрын
Да! Это Ты! Я видел этот видос! Еее молодец, прям как иностранец!
Makes me sick how much components 😔😢😥
a lot of hours , BUT it worked!
2:26 Ах ты русский человек! - why you have russian things in this sheet?
sooooo much solder lol
nothing can be made if you don't know how to use it im not talking about the person who created the video