What are "techno phrases"?

Techno speaks another language than most music: it doesn't focus on harmonic progression or melodies for its character. How can we then still make a techno song "speak"? Let's look at a little tool called "effect phrases" where we create calls, responses, and turnarounds using instrument effects.
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Contents:
0:00 Choosing not to use melody!
1:08 Effect phrases
1:59 Audio example
3:50 Dealing with too dynamic sounds by upward compressing
5:06 Lead elements are like human speech
5:48 Send me your techno demos

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  • @OscarUnderdog
    @OscarUnderdog Жыл бұрын

    Send techno demos here ► demo@xysecret.be X/Y/S label ► soundcloud.com/x_y_secret My techno project Torc ► soundcloud.com/torcaudio Oscar's courses ► courses.underdog.brussels

  • @DetroitMicroSound

    @DetroitMicroSound

    Жыл бұрын

    You know, we would love to see you digging into some popular hardware. My current obsession is with small, cost-effective (but powerful) groove boxes, of our current era. Starting at the end of my list of rig pieces, which goes back 35 or so years, I just got the Roland AIRA S-1. I have had two friends over the years with SH-101's in their studios, and I have owned several old Roland analog synths, beside it. I gotta say, you could show folks how to make some great techno with just these tiny AIRA's, and a couple other reasonably priced bits of kit. It's pretty impressive, for $200USD, this one.

  • @officialphazenoise

    @officialphazenoise

    8 ай бұрын

    great video :) really easy to understand and implement in the production. for the demos...how long should they be and what format (e.g. link, .wav, .mp3, etc.)?

  • @DetroitMicroSound
    @DetroitMicroSound Жыл бұрын

    The best techno is much more "moving sound sculpture" than it is, the practice of traditional melodical musical theories.

  • @Death_Rave

    @Death_Rave

    4 ай бұрын

    Ones that when you finally grow accustomed to a pattern, it starts to change into something else together.

  • @quantum_ocean
    @quantum_ocean3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this. So many techno tutorials are just sharing recipes. This one is different. It's more fundamental. It helps develop a deeper UNDERSTANDING, which is much more helpful in the long term than yet another recipe.

  • @_s.d.s._
    @_s.d.s._ Жыл бұрын

    This is sooooo validating, My brain thinks primarily in these kind of phrases, and I struggle with melodies.

  • @MantequillaConPollo

    @MantequillaConPollo

    Жыл бұрын

    its because you aint learning music theory

  • @trevormalcolm4328
    @trevormalcolm4328 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve known this subconsciously, the best videos confirm what you already think! Thank you under dog! 🙏🏽✊🏽🇬🇧

  • @nuisan
    @nuisan Жыл бұрын

    You gave so many interesting advices in such a short time that I had to pause the video every 10 seconds or so to keep up writting down my notes! Awsome tips as always!

  • @b00ts4ndc4ts

    @b00ts4ndc4ts

    8 ай бұрын

    Make a folder on you tube of all favourite ideas. I have one for drums, bass, melodies, mixing and miscellaneous. When I am struggling with writing block all it takes is watching one of the uploads I have saved to spark an Idea. The only reason I am saying this is because I had pages of notes with no organisation and found it hard to come back to that juicy stuff.

  • @frankiewylde7649
    @frankiewylde7649 Жыл бұрын

    love your tips lately oscar! your videos keep getting better and better! thank you for all your work

  • @crhettbuttler1
    @crhettbuttler1 Жыл бұрын

    Really cool how you put together a few concepts that are always there in the back of your mind but conjuring them ad then taking them apart is just another level

  • @pivA00
    @pivA00 Жыл бұрын

    I love how succinct your videos are, helps a lot to validate some techniques one has figured out themselves but can't really pinpoint to why/how it works :) the short length also help a lot to catch up. Thanks a lot for them :D

  • @benni.rosinante
    @benni.rosinante Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video! I love the style and approach and the sharing of sound design techniques 🥳

  • @nop33
    @nop33 Жыл бұрын

    Such good content, as always! I think I'll soon purchase your foundations 2, i rly enjoyed 1!

  • @AlexanderDemergis
    @AlexanderDemergis5 ай бұрын

    Wow I had no idea I was making this mistake; Trying to hear chord progressions when in fact it was hypnotic techno which is something completely different from peak time / melodic

  • @DANCCER
    @DANCCER Жыл бұрын

    Oscar, This video came at the right time. I needed this Tipp for a new track i am working on at the moment. Thanks mate 🔥

  • @brianhudson7058
    @brianhudson7058 Жыл бұрын

    Always good to get your tuition thanks Unders ❤️

  • @0711RC
    @0711RC Жыл бұрын

    Another Awesome lesson. Thank you Oscar!!

  • @jumpstar9000
    @jumpstar900010 ай бұрын

    Really great tips Oscar 👍👍

  • @introsphereakafelixus
    @introsphereakafelixus Жыл бұрын

    great video! need more about this style of techno

  • @jarbo186
    @jarbo186 Жыл бұрын

    I love your work bro, keep it up. I’m having the best experience with your courses ➕♾️

  • @OscarUnderdog

    @OscarUnderdog

    Жыл бұрын

    Great to hear! 💙

  • @freethinkers-inc.
    @freethinkers-inc. Жыл бұрын

    Great tutorial. Thanks a lot. Just working also on some techno phrases and the video fits perfectly.

  • @allyouracid
    @allyouracid Жыл бұрын

    This is like tasty pastry, but not for the mouth, but for the ears instead.

  • @bobbydebobadibob1261
    @bobbydebobadibob1261 Жыл бұрын

    Love your uploads Oscar..

  • @QuickSilver111
    @QuickSilver111 Жыл бұрын

    Always such useful content and great delivery ~*~

  • @gm-heaven
    @gm-heaven Жыл бұрын

    You put the right words on concepts that I was only touching the surface. One more time, this is truly useful. Thank you Oscar

  • @motechrecords
    @motechrecords Жыл бұрын

    Great videos I learn allot from your walkthrough 👌🏼

  • @andriinikitin6139
    @andriinikitin6139 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot fo this video! I struggle a little with techno, because I’m too used to melodical songwriting, and techno is not about that :) this video is suuuper useful

  • @martinb5367
    @martinb5367 Жыл бұрын

    Hi bro, I follow your channel, mostly of time I am quite and silenced but I really like the way you share your views. I'am an Afro house producer currently I am at Top20 producers of this genre on the beatstats in the last 12 months. I like when you says the maths involved on the track and yesterday I saw an interview with the producer from ACDC rock n roll band and that guy says the same thing you said here at once. The maths, he was explaining why the drum and bass from this band is so straight enough to make the guitar plays off beat and creates the ACDC math work perfectly. In my case is hard as I need to explore the percussion ( congas, djembe, etc ) world. Sometimes those percussions are hard to find the maths , so many information inveolded, sometimes they are also a difficult to adjust the sound, as they are too raw.

  • @conduit-seoir
    @conduit-seoir Жыл бұрын

    Best channel on KZread, so well explained

  • @lauferx5944
    @lauferx5944 Жыл бұрын

    I was listening a lot of Luigi Tozzi lately and was thinking about the technique he's using and here it is. This chanell is without competiton 🙌

  • @shubhamsurya007
    @shubhamsurya007 Жыл бұрын

    This content is absolute GOLD ❤

  • @slowfreq
    @slowfreq Жыл бұрын

    This is just the inspiration I needed to finish my dubstep song!!!

  • @Skalakalava
    @Skalakalava Жыл бұрын

    thank you so much Underdog Guy

  • @4to_theFlow
    @4to_theFlow Жыл бұрын

    Uuuh, what sound quality! It made me feel tingles in my brain, haha, excellent! You should make sound for movies or for some museum exhibit because it's a universe of sensations with at least some good headphones.

  • @krismortonmusic
    @krismortonmusic Жыл бұрын

    Dude your track is so sick!

  • @andycordy5190
    @andycordy5190 Жыл бұрын

    Really logical stuff . Thank you.

  • @allformatz
    @allformatz Жыл бұрын

    I’m a loyal Patreon follower of Oscar and as always his content is very relatable. Great explanation to a non melodic techno phrase

  • @catmasterOP
    @catmasterOP Жыл бұрын

    Yo, what's under, dawg?

  • @totopolo2379

    @totopolo2379

    10 ай бұрын

    are we lw iq aspiring rappers today?

  • @didzisberzins1221
    @didzisberzins1221 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! This got me thinking about one of my dusty old wip's that has some samples from Half-Life. Could you do a video on sample clearing and copyright? I know it's not the most exciting topic, but I think a lot of beginner producers have to know what it means and how to do it

  • @Almaltz
    @Almaltz Жыл бұрын

    There is a really good free upwards/downwards compressor called OTT. Its a fantastic little unit.

  • @eanhickok8984
    @eanhickok89845 ай бұрын

    very good video thank you

  • @arneanders6306
    @arneanders6306 Жыл бұрын

    Here is my portion of '' some love'' for you😂🎉 great video 😎🤙

  • @ns3429
    @ns3429 Жыл бұрын

    Legend! Thanks

  • @muschimiau
    @muschimiau Жыл бұрын

    I would like to see you show some practical tips in Ableton again. Your last episodes were very theoretical. Thanks.

  • @Priotech
    @Priotech Жыл бұрын

    This is a good way to think about it

  • @themarrowmusic
    @themarrowmusic Жыл бұрын

    With your video FX supporting the delay and your story I just thought I have hallucinogen persisting perception disorder 😂 Thank you for your ideas

  • @armandotovar3048
    @armandotovar3048 Жыл бұрын

    Hola Oscar, could you make a video of sampling old school? please

  • @gazo733
    @gazo733 Жыл бұрын

    Starting to make sense

  • @Desid3lia
    @Desid3lia Жыл бұрын

    Oscar a great video as always!! i 've been truly inspired by your videos and you ve help me develop my skills as a producer so thanks a lot! i hve been using your rumble generator since the release and i ve made some adjustments to add some more control over the rumble sound. would you like me to send you the patch so you can share it with the rest of the community?

  • @OscarUnderdog

    @OscarUnderdog

    Жыл бұрын

    Do! You can email it :)

  • @DALZIELMUSIC
    @DALZIELMUSIC Жыл бұрын

    Track is 🔥

  • @dannecid6194
    @dannecid6194 Жыл бұрын

    I love the new track

  • @blockchaintutorials9009
    @blockchaintutorials9009 Жыл бұрын

    Nice intro dude.

  • @AKAtAGG
    @AKAtAGG Жыл бұрын

    2:37 - sampling that immediately

  • @airfixx_8952

    @airfixx_8952

    Жыл бұрын

    The voice is an amazing instrument..... Get a mic, go crazy and sample yourself... :)

  • @SaundiHemmo
    @SaundiHemmo Жыл бұрын

    This video has good material for some techno track "Oscars formants"😁

  • @kristijanspirkoski806
    @kristijanspirkoski806 Жыл бұрын

    Hey, would you recommend the Foundations of Electronic Music course to someone interested in producing techno music?

  • @ricardojmestre
    @ricardojmestre Жыл бұрын

    You opened a Pandora's box that now I can't close. Not that I want to. :D

  • @EZBOT_
    @EZBOT_ Жыл бұрын

    I love your work! What microphone do you use to record these video?

  • @OscarUnderdog

    @OscarUnderdog

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm mostly using a sennheiser 416 these days! I quite like it :)

  • @EZBOT_

    @EZBOT_

    Жыл бұрын

    @@OscarUnderdog thanks for getting back to me :)

  • @Note_Creator
    @Note_Creator Жыл бұрын

    2:50 formant filter. If you are trying to figure out what was said.

  • @DrGuy118
    @DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the food 🙏🏾

  • @supafly424
    @supafly424 Жыл бұрын

    Oscar ftw!

  • @saifadte1
    @saifadte1 Жыл бұрын

    You should make hypnotic techno from scratch video

  • @OscarUnderdog

    @OscarUnderdog

    Жыл бұрын

    I do one on my courses website! Or also check out my SNTS videos!

  • @LouisSerieusement
    @LouisSerieusement11 ай бұрын

    nice

  • @carlrowlinson2833
    @carlrowlinson2833 Жыл бұрын

    Would that multiband effect also be achieved using a normal compressor set to expand, or is there something specific in the multiband needed?

  • @OscarUnderdog

    @OscarUnderdog

    Жыл бұрын

    Expand is the opposite of what we want to achieve :) remember we are trying to compress the dynamic range, but in an upward motion :)

  • @carlrowlinson2833

    @carlrowlinson2833

    Жыл бұрын

    @@OscarUnderdog ah gotcha. Thanks for clarifying

  • @drottningu
    @drottningu Жыл бұрын

    Foundations 2 Hype 😂

  • @AOOOOGA
    @AOOOOGA Жыл бұрын

    When I click on courses I get “Forbidden”. I’ve used different browsers and VPN’s and still can’t access it. Anybody else having trouble?

  • @Death_Rave
    @Death_Rave4 ай бұрын

    "What is *Upward* compression?" [Watches him adjust one aspect on multiband I've never touched before] Me:🤯

  • @marcosrotllan
    @marcosrotllan Жыл бұрын

    This one was really inspiring. Thx.

  • @jeremypcaulfield2474
    @jeremypcaulfield2474 Жыл бұрын

    I’m seeing trails …. 😅❤

  • @kookiespace
    @kookiespace Жыл бұрын

    2:47 🥺 chonky arms

  • @olafsigursons
    @olafsigursons Жыл бұрын

    Techno being rhythmic based, I would say your musical phrase would be rhythmic.

  • @nestoroid
    @nestoroid Жыл бұрын

    In techno music, the focus is on rhythmic and percussive elements, not melody. However, instrument effects like delay, reverb, distortion, and filtering can still convey emotion. Techniques like "build-ups" gradually increase tension, while "drops" create sudden changes in rhythm and texture. Creative use of effects creates a sense of tension, release, and emotional impact, making techno tracks dynamic and expressive.

  • @joverlinden5713
    @joverlinden5713 Жыл бұрын

    Amongus

  • @OscarUnderdog

    @OscarUnderdog

    Жыл бұрын

    Sus

  • @stoatystoat174
    @stoatystoat17411 ай бұрын

    :)

  • @bobmoegrabi
    @bobmoegrabi Жыл бұрын

    First

  • @hrmny_
    @hrmny_ Жыл бұрын

    To me, a techno phrase is 8 bars

  • @airfixx_8952

    @airfixx_8952

    Жыл бұрын

    Beware making rules for yourself..... Go with with feels right and then once you get into a comfortable routine; challenge it. 👍

  • @dgsoundCA
    @dgsoundCA Жыл бұрын

    comment for algo, thank you for everything Oscar!