I was extremely disappointed with the Political Typology and Isidewith tests. Here are the best political tests in order after going through this: 1. 10groups 2. 8values 3. 9axes 4. Political Compass 5. Political Typology 6. Isidewith

@bleedingpopcorn6

2 жыл бұрын

I am really surprised to hear that you think isidewith is bad. I always thought it was incredibly pertinent in determining or aligning your views with parties and candidates rather than broadly

@ADT1995

2 жыл бұрын

@@bleedingpopcorn6 I think it used to be a lot better than it is now, but it still works better for parties than it does candidates I think. I think a lot of its issues are with how it weighs things, and the fact that a lot of questions are irrelevant, but I'm not certain on this The main reason I say it's bad for candidates is personal experience though, and I will say that I'm kind of hard to place since I don't really fit with either conservative or liberal. But for example it says that I should vote for Donald Trump even though he's quite literally the reason I left the Republican Party (I was always a moderate and a swing voter, but I ended up going Republican often enough I felt like "left wing Republican" was the most accurate way to describe me, although I was definitely more "reddish-purple" than red and could vote either way (and in some midterm elections voted Democrat for one position and Republican for the other)

@Chrisalot

2 жыл бұрын

No Mr Beat, you are not really a Centrist. You are to the right just like most Americans are which include so-called “liberals”, but I’ll give you credit for saying you’re biased at least.

@russelldavis1359

2 жыл бұрын

Insidewith doesn’t work if you do to many fill in the blanks since there isn’t a human to weigh the answer

@bohmfalk

2 жыл бұрын

Are you going to post a truncated version of this video?

When people call Biden a far-left politician and a Marxist, I can’t help but laugh. It makes me wonder what they think a centrist is if he is a Marxist and far-left.

@jangamecuber

4 ай бұрын

the people who say that think they're centrists

@UGAfan1227

4 ай бұрын

@@jangamecuber In my opinion why people say this type of stuff is because they fall for the division that is pushed by media and a lot of politicians on both sides of the political spectrum. This leads them to think that all democrats are far left. I have also seen it the other way where people think that all republicans are far right. The reality is that very little amounts of people are far left or far right, but what is publicized by these media outlets kind of makes it seem like every democrat is crazy or every republican is crazy, and some people fall for it.

@hillelkita2354

4 ай бұрын

Centrist in america means right wingers

@tmartin6300

4 ай бұрын

Being left wing or right wing doesn't necessarily mean extremist. Moderates, centrists and extremists exist on both sides, but they are all different.

@johntorres2565

4 ай бұрын

@@tmartin6300 Biden is not far-left. And he is definitely not a Marxist or a communist like extreme far-right in US like to characterize him as. He is a center-right moderate for the most part. He has a few left-wing and liberal positions. But nothing he is willing to be to fight for with any tenacity.

"The GOP is not the small government party" - Mr Beat, aka, Mr Based.

@arhamshahid5015

Жыл бұрын

Its surprising what following policy instead of the GOPs slogans can do

@hydrospace1

Жыл бұрын

Socialist?

@pleaseenteraname1103

Жыл бұрын

in terms of small government terms of the economy, but some social issues not for small government.

@tugalord

Жыл бұрын

​@@hydrospace1 im a hoppean (paleolibertarian-ancap) and i agree both parties are tyrannical

@lisleigfried4660

Жыл бұрын

Not anymore, neocons are dying out, right win populism is winning

Excellent stream Mr. Beat. I may not see eye-to-eye to you on some of these issues, but overall, I respect your reasoning for each stance you take, and I greatly enjoyed this stream.

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@Nebula5172

2 жыл бұрын

@@iammrbeat hello pls shoutout

@kennethjohnson3442

Жыл бұрын

^ what this person said ^

@evil69wizard

Жыл бұрын

@@iammrbeat mr beast give me money

@abienahl345

Ай бұрын

You know, I was thinking the exact same thing. With how divided the US has become in politics, I highly respect people who don't identify with a specific party, just like Mr. Beat, and people who use logic and reasoning in their opinions instead of what other people think.

Whenever I do these quizzes I always I assume “agree” means “I agree for the most part but there are edge cases” and “strongly agree” means “this is fundamentally true/I don’t see how there could be any other viewpoint” (and obviously the other way round for “disagree” and “strongly disagree”) So yeah I always saw it less as “how strongly do you feel about this” and more “how much do you believe this statement to be true”

@xenomorphbiologist-xx1214

Ай бұрын

I generally agree with this, but there’s another thing that can happen with a lot of these tests that makes them hard to judge accurately. You might a question like “Protectionism is sometimes necessary in trade” which of course it is sometimes, but if I click agree, then that would seem to imply that I’m in favour of protectionism, so I end up clicking disagree and eventually you start interpreting your own results before you even get them

So now that we know Mr Beat is the ultimate centrist I guess we can make him President now.

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

lol well according to 10groups I am, at least.

@emmasnow29

2 жыл бұрын

No, he's a left libertarian.

@citizenwayne4550

Жыл бұрын

Why in the fuck is that a good thing to be? You know who else is a centrist? Joe fucking Biden lmao along with most old-blood democrat leaders.

@syncradar

Жыл бұрын

@@emmasnow29 no, he is a left-leaning centrist-libertarian

@syncradar

Жыл бұрын

@Aleksandar Milović I agree

To those who just want the answers: Left Libertarian 53:17 Liberalist 1:21:51 Social Libertarian 1:47:03 Outsider Left 2:04:42 Green 2:44:27 Centrist 3:21:24

@jeremyguinea3553

2 жыл бұрын

This deserves more likes

@year6million

2 жыл бұрын

what a journey

@4c6f

2 жыл бұрын

"liberalist"

@toffeenut1336

2 жыл бұрын

Left wing. Could never guess by the glasses and Funko Pops.

@jonahmiller5881

2 жыл бұрын

@@toffeenut1336Hahaha what? Glasses have nothing to do with politics lmfaoooo (And Funko pops are for nerds)

Political Compass: 12:00 8 Values: 55:05 9 Axis: 1:23:40 Political Typology: 1:48:45 ISideWith: 2:07:30 10 Groups: 2:50:20 Discussion: 3:25:10

@tylord.

2 жыл бұрын

thank you

@weston.weston

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the time stamps, Mr. Harrison!!!

@racing-with-ryan-gamer

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@abrahamlincoln937

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the time stamps.

@zaidhernandez4601

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man

Just after watching Mr. Beat for the first time I could tell right away that he was a moderate with balanced political views, despite him not revealing much personally, because of how apparent his intent to present data objectively for educational purposes was. And that's why I instantly subscribed without a second thought. Well, that and his particular charisma, not gonna lie.

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

Wait charisma? I have charisma? Then apparently I need to start a cult! All bad jokes aside, thanks for the kind words. :)

@tomtomtom6970

2 жыл бұрын

Many historians are, I feel like.

@naiyo87

2 жыл бұрын

@@iammrbeat haha well, it must take some sort of charisma to get a following of over half a million people. Thank you for the quality content!

@christophercheck1590

2 жыл бұрын

You don't HAVE to be moderate to present all sides of an issue fairly. Just empathetic and honest about your biases to yourself. I'm an anarcho-communist, but I've had students guess my politics are all OVER the spectrum because I'm good at trying to present the best face of an idea even if I disagree with it (the term often used is "steelmanning," and I think more people should do it when engaging with philosophies they disagree with). Mr. Beat's really good at being fair to ideologies he doesn't accept as true, which is the main reason he's so good at this, not necessarily his overall neutrality. A great historical example is Cicero's "de Finibus," in which he, a skeptical Stoic, tries to present a balanced debate between a Stoic and an Epicurean (and which I, as a more Epicurean individual, find to be mostly pretty fair).

@therealistpartypodcast3519

Жыл бұрын

Moderate just sounds like a way to not take a defensive side on anything because things are going to fall on one side or the other and can be the logical position. Also you can speak on history and not be a moderate

Thoroughly enjoyed the stream and taking the test side-by side while discussing with chat! GrillBeat and Radical Left Beat deserve to be memes.

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for being here!

Love your videos Mr. Beat. I love your non tribalistic lens of US government. It makes me feel hope for connection with others rather than tearing each other down

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. My hope is that most of my viewers don't succumb to tribalism and ideologies as well.

@dontstealmydiamondsv3156

2 жыл бұрын

@@night6724 do you mind explaining that to me? i never heard of it, not an american.

“What furry persona would I probably be? Probably sonic the hedgehog.” 💀

@AidanO-H13

7 сағат бұрын

Where does he say this at 😭😭😭

"'from each according to his ability to each according to his need' is a fundamentally good idea" Depending on how I want to interpret that on a given day I could quite literally answer it any of the 4 ways. One of the worst questions on that quiz and one that gives almost no insight into a persons actual beliefs.

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

I hate it lol

@godemperorofmankind3.091

2 жыл бұрын

i think its meant to be a weird way of asking "do you support Karl Marx". if you answered yes, the quiz will put you as far left

@pascalausensi9592

2 жыл бұрын

Then again it's one of Marx's maxims and a very well known communist slogan in general.

@ADT1995

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's probably meant to be Marxist since it is directly quoting him, but how I want to interpret the word "fundamentally" will change my answer If I'm interpreting it as "sieze the means of production" I'm going to strongly disagree... if I want to interpret it as "as a society we ought to take care of our less fortunate members" then I'm going to strongly agree... Most of the time I'm probably going to interpret it somewhere in-between

@musicman5664

2 жыл бұрын

Heck, I could even interpret that as a social Darwinist (nazi) quote

the least conservative man in Kansas

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully by watching this you now will re-think what you mean by "conservative"

@OatmealGrillBlazer

2 жыл бұрын

@@iammrbeat it's a joke

@Pres.Roosevelt

2 ай бұрын

@@OatmealGrillBlazerNo, you just worded it wrong.

I took 8values and 10groups before your stream ended, and now I finally got the free time to look through this. While you got Liberalism and Centrism, respectively, I got Social Democracy. Pretty good tests.

@AbsurdTurk

Жыл бұрын

Social democracy is an interesting category: it basically means you like capitalism with a bit of socialism sprinkled in. I've read that on the political spectrum, it's considered slightly left. Funny enough, I've heard some conservative parties in Europe are social democrats.

@VegitoBlue202

Жыл бұрын

I got either Anarcho Communism or Revolutionary Socialist?

I didn’t even know 10groups existed before watching your stream but it is definitely the most comprehensive political test I’ve since taken. I didn’t agree with a number of your positions but the reasoning you gave for some of them (especially the questions pertaining to economics) have made me want to take a 2nd look at some of my current stances and reevaluate them. In case you’re curious, the 10groups test gave me the closest match for Social Democracy with next matches being Libertarian Socialism and Social Democracy (this being listed twice for some reason)

@Noah73827

2 жыл бұрын

I got those exact same results

@liberalcitydweller

2 жыл бұрын

It gave me Georgism followed by Mutualism and Social Democracy

@ADT1995

2 жыл бұрын

It gave me radical centrism followed by centrism and apoliticism... (Which I'm guessing is it's way of saying "hard to tell")

@duckhawkninja3614

2 жыл бұрын

I got syndicalism. Next matches were libertarian socialism, anarcho-syndicalism, and minarcho-socialism

@GreenLarsen

2 жыл бұрын

Amusingly as an economist myself I found his arguments on economy to be on the weaker side. They were, like the economic thinking was 20 years ago (when I was studying it). And not like economic thinking is today with the added knowledge those years have given. But it was great fun

I love seeing which issues we disagree on, because you're able to offer a clear perspective on WHY you feel the way you do, which in turn gives me another perspective on the issue to think about.

This was extremely refreshing to watch & listen to. In a time where every opinion is scrutinized by so many people from all sides, it’s nice to see someone express their thoughts in a coherent & comprehensive manner, all the while allowing room for discussion & even disagreement in the name of progressing towards the greater good of us all. Cheers to you, Mr. Beat!

When you were saying we should get rid of minimum wage, I was disagreeing pretty heavily, but when you said to implement universal basic income if you do, I actually then agreed, though I usually switch the order: I want universal basic income, but if you implement it, then you can get rid of minimum wage. Not to mention various welfare things like disability which become no longer strictly necessary.

@Hhhhhh-sz9ud

2 жыл бұрын

Do it with one bill, both simultaneously

@bru4773

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hhhhhh-sz9ud Yeah, thats the best way to do it

@bwayne9265

Жыл бұрын

Removing minimal wage and adding universal basic income will be catastrophic to the minority individuals. These programs incentivize people to be lazy and so are you to from what I’m reading

@bru4773

Жыл бұрын

@@bwayne9265 You don't know anything about me. Do you just call anyone who advocates for UBI lazy? Is Mr. Beat lazy then? Get over yourself. I always find this idea of "UBI will just make people lazy" really funny because its an unintentional admission that low level jobs are only sustainable by threats of death or violence (eviction/homelessness/lack of Healthcare, etc). Im not going to say that some small few people are going to just sit around and do nothing all day, but most those people are already doing that. UBI is not suggesting to give people so much money they can live lavishly. The idea is that living off of UBI only would kinda suck ass, but at least you'd have some kind of roof over your head and you can live. If you want a better life, you can find a job. And jobs will need to pay whatever is appropriate for people to do them, rather than relying on threats of homelessness to coerce people to do them. Entice with reward rather then threaten with punishment. UBI will largely become necessary once automation has replaced enough jobs anyway. Eventually there will simply not be enough jobs to go around. I'd rather people start looking into it now before it becomes a big crisis.

@Hhhhhh-sz9ud

Жыл бұрын

@@bwayne9265 if UBI is applied to everyone regardless of employment status, then it doesn’t create that incentive

loved this stream. not gonna lie, it made me smile when all the tests put our values within 5% of each other. fantastic video!

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

haha well thank you!

I used to hate moderates and nuance as a teenager and i stumbled on your channel and slowly but surely,i deduced that you were a moderate.But you convinced me (along with some other youtubers like JJ mcllough)that pragmatism is more effective than blind tribalism and being ideological and not in a direct way but by presenting both sides and presenting data and facts in an unbiased way without any political agenda and the few political videos you have done were amazing and not just pushing an agenda,also to think case by case instead of subscribing to one ideology. This has been an amazing video thank you for sharing you views,and teaching me(and i would say millions of others)to critically think instead of idiotically rallying behind the party or the leader.

@Gamefreak924

Жыл бұрын

Moderates don't support a universal basic income. That's socialism.

@iammrbeat

Жыл бұрын

Just saw this. Thanks for the kind words!

@VegitoBlue202

Жыл бұрын

As a Socialist I see that revolution is last ditch effort but for now Reform could be a better option.

@Desklamp22

Жыл бұрын

@@VegitoBlue202 A revolution is never going to happen

@Potatotenkopf

Жыл бұрын

I still dislike moderate but nuance is always good and liberals (real liberals not mfers trying to bring centrists into the right) are based.

Mr beat is great. I found this channel by misspelling mr beast. Best accidental find ever. Keep up the great work bro 😎

The pro choice position is actually the more pro life position. Contraception, sex education and family planning clinics have been shown to statistically lower abortion rates. On the other hand, criminalizing abortion has never solved anything except raising the maternal mortality rates which is why only authoritarian extremely socially conservative nations have tried it. If your ideals are to save as many people as possible, increasing contraception access to prevent unwanted pregnancies should be the ideal. not to mention the whole thing of trying to police women's bodies is authoritarian and "big government".

@seancallaghan54

2 жыл бұрын

Additionally an argument from the biological/scientific can be made that life doesn't start until birth all the way to life starts before conception because egg and sperm are living cells so it is a continuous life onto life. The main question is when does the zygote/embryo/fetus turn into a full fledged human. This is why the line was placed stating "survival outside the body" because that was deemed that the 1 being became 2 (one inside another). Unfortunately it does seem that a lot of people on the "it's all life" side also are not ones saying instead of abortion let's setup and fund centers to raise them post removal

@100AcreWoodz1

2 жыл бұрын

Well said. Abortion is a culture war tool that spawned in the late 20th century.

@ADT1995

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with everything you said except the last bit. It's not authoritarian to say you can't end a life, even when that life is within another's body.

@tylerblue9691

2 жыл бұрын

@@ADT1995 On the political compass, is IS authoritarian. Anything that regulates an individual's freedoms or autonomy, is authoritarian rather than libertarian. It is super broad though. No abortions is authoritarian just as no guns is. So the "Left" and "Right" in America both want Authoritarian and Libertarian ideas. Left says less guns (authoritarian), Right says less abortions (also authoritarian)

@ADT1995

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylerblue9691 on a political compass yes, but I was using the more narrow meaning of the word. I'm not saying you're wrong, I should have been more clear.

It would be interesting to get people from all different life experiences to take each of these tests, and then average results to gauge the bias of each test

The video of these socio-political assessments was very informative, Matthew. The ten groups test for me seemed to be the most comprehensive in terms of getting the most contextualized percentages as to what the closest representation of what one's premises (Everything is just that as far as I'm concerned apart from natural things such as both choice and force which're all or nothing to me anyway. Aside from those, most things are relative) may be for them since a lot of the questions are dealing with a case-by-case version. Still probably not up to fullest song or nearly as sufficient as it preferably should be, but it's the best we have. Even with its flaws (And everything's flawed if we're honest) it's one of the more realistic measuring sticks we have of course. I resent too many categories myself, but they're useful and pretty much the only way humans can get a feel of results by dissecting criteria and such. We reciprocate a lot of commonalities with the beliefs from these quizzes, but it scored me as being a little more openly liberal compared to other benchmarks for it since I'm consistently typed as an INTJ-to-INFJ and an independent progressive so while I'm a rational person, I do tend to bring my own sense of morality into a lot of decisions with good reasons in my life, so it is what is as I understand it. It grouped me into what I thought I still am which was into the Left-Libertarianism-to-Libertarian Socialism quadrants. I was actually a little more conservative than I had initially anticipated. Still primarily a shamelessly liberal person though. I will say that social programs are overall more reliably thoughtful than charities as means of helping out the disadvantaged on a regular basis simply because it shouldn't be left up to the fickleness of human emotions to decide whether or not to benefit someone, but of course there's always that obverse of the dignitaries holding out on someone and an entity using private means for public ends to empower someone and turn the system on its head with sustainable policy making. But at least in law resources are supposed to be distributed fairly. It's such an earnest honor that you're KU alumnus and I'm such an enormously impassioned Jayhawks fan. The basketball program is practically a bellwether for so much of the sport in my central opinion. Here are my results for ten groups if anyone longs to see for their betterment. I've took the other tests before and found both reaffirmations and disappointments with them, so I won't include those for now. I may at a further date. Thanks for the many insights and uploads you've shared with us from your content, Mr. Beat. 10groups.github.io/results.html?y=-1.10&ay=1.75&x=-3.31&ax=-3.31&bx=0.33&by=-2.82&cx=-1.37&cy=-4.46&dx=-7.09&dy=-4.56&ex=-1.45&ey=5.67&fx=0.33&fy=-4.40&gx=-3.00&gy=-6.33&hx=-5.00&hy=1.00&ix=4.25&iy=4.00&ja=-1.33&jb=7.50&jc=-3.67&jd=-1.50

You really did yourself a disservice by taking the 45 question version of the 9Axes quiz. The questions are not tailored for a shorter format but are just 45 randomly selected questions from the real quiz. I followed along while watching this and the results were not reflective of my actual beliefs. For example, I strongly support non-interventionist foreign policy and want the draft abolished but the quiz said I lean militarist.

I really like your stance on Universal Basic Income and the Minimum Wage. I wish Andrew Yang was elected as Mayor of Nyc to see what the outcome of a Universal Basic Income would have looked like.

I missed this due to friends visiting but I'm glad a fellow Kansan is so well informed even if we disagree on a few points.

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

Represent!

Regarding beliefs, in his movie Dogma, Kevin Smith made one of the wisest observations I’ve ever come across, that it’s better to have ideas than belief’s because ideas can be changed. That concept changed my entire way of thinking. There are people who will kill and die over a belief. People treat their beliefs as if they’re some unquestionable truth when, by definition, they’re not. What’s more, few people ever stop to question or re-examine their beliefs, but beliefs are a choice. We accept what makes sense to us. Given that, it’s astounding what people choose to believe.

@iammrbeat

Жыл бұрын

Well put!

@frankbolger3969

10 ай бұрын

That's one of those things that sounds wise, but really isn't. If true, there would be no lapsed Catholics, lapsed Jews, lapsed Fundamentalists, lapsed Communists, lapsed Fascists or lapsed vegetarians. Not to mention lapsed Flat Earth Society members. Glib, is what I would call it. Really, what it is is a way to stigmatize people of faith.

One thing about the political compass is I never know whether to put "(dis)agree" or "strongly (dis)agree". When I take it I usually end up putting "strongly" for most of them and then I get a result like (-9, -9) even though functionally there's no difference between what I believe and what someone at (-3, -3) would believe.

Mainly just commenting for the algorithm. I really appreciate you Mr. Beat, thanks for making this :) Also most of your vids have such thoughtful and polite comments, I think you should get to feel proud of that.

This is a great point in that people that take the time to research our history or not die hard when it comes to picking a side. I’ve notices with others to that are really intelligent.

Great stream, Mr. Beat! I initially thought that you would be slightly to the right economically and that you would just barely land at the Libertarian Right quadrant on the political compass but it turns out that you are solidly Libertarian Left. I took the political compass test and I just barely landed at Libertarian Left as well, almost at Authoritarian Left.

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

Fascinating stuff. Yeah I figured our political views might be similar. I used to be more Libertarian Right when I was younger.

@abrahamlincoln937

2 жыл бұрын

@@iammrbeat Yeah I agree with you on foreign policy. Economically I’m probably slightly to the left of you but I think that socially you are more libertarian than me.

@pleaseenteraname1103

2 жыл бұрын

I got libertarian left as well barely though I go back-and-forth between barely libertarian right or barely libertarian left. I used to be more left leaning, but I was more of a left-wing centrist and now I’m more right leaning centrist, some abusive changed a little bit but my views on things like gun control and abortion have pretty much say the same my views on other things like drug use and social programs have changed quite a bit though.

@xp8969

2 жыл бұрын

Based Ancom@@iammrbeat

@michaelcozzi9637

2 жыл бұрын

@@iammrbeat Just out of curiosity, what would you think of the argument that Jimmy Carter was a Center-Right President who later became a Liberal once he left the White House? This is because when Carter was in politics, he initially moved the Democratic Party more towards the Center. That's why he picked a Senator like Walter Mondale.

Fantastic stream, thank you so much for sharing your opinions and your reasoning

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@jacobogonzalez6383

2 жыл бұрын

Wow I’m thanks most KZreadrs don’t respond

This video is kinda helpful with explaining the meaning of some of these questions better. I also noticed I had similar reasoning for some of the questions.

The most important phrase I’ve learned as I’ve gotten older is “I have no strong opinion on that one way or the other” especially when I don’t know much about the situation

Watched this on Tuesday, the night before my mom died. It will always be close in my heart ❤️

@WiloPolis03

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh that absolutely sucks, I really hope you have people to talk to

This is one of my favorite videos you’ve ever done.

There's nothing wrong with being ideological so long as you're not dogmatic

@AnthonyBolognese710

9 ай бұрын

And realizing both left and right are dogmatic (even despite the left being “anti church”)

@lerpog4509

8 ай бұрын

yea the way he used the word ideology made it clear he doesn’t understand how politics really work on a human level, its the problem with all centrists they spend so long trying to suck their own dick talking about how they have no opinions and both sides have bad aspects and then they become complicit when the obviously worse side takes the other sides rights theres no both side on trans rights consercative dont have ‘a point’ they can join the conversation when they grow up, they are disconnected from reality its its honestly pitiful responding to moron conservatives, they all have the exact same fucking arguments i maybe see a new con argument every 5 months

@anonymous-cq7wj

5 ай бұрын

everybody is ideological

"the people who are in power are really good at tricking the people who aren't in power to hate each other" THIIIIISSSS

i watched so much of this thinkimg it was mr beasts political views

@justinstrong9595

Ай бұрын

You are as low iq as they come

I agreed with Beat on a surprising amount, though I am definitely more ideological.

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

I used to be more ideological, too.

Just found your channel… very much align with you apparently after watching this video.. incredibly aligned with you.. after many years of liberalism 😬 I began homeschooling my kids after Covid once I figured out I could swing it financially and realized how important it is for kids to have a solid foundation… So important to teach kids HOW to think as opposed to WHAT to think… thank you, I will now be using your videos…

Out of nowhere, my mother, when I was in my forties, told me, " I'm sorry I broke your spirit, Audrey. No one should ever do that to a child." And while I'm grateful to have heard that from her, it doesn't unf*ck my entire life, due to the "spirit breaking" she did. I'm also weirdly happy for her that she obviously had done some soul searching about abusing me my whole life & in the end, was able to see how negatively it affected me, & she was able to come to me to try to make amends over it. She died about a year or so after that. And though I'm very happy she got that off her conscience, in reality those words did nothing to actually fix anything in me she had broken. It feels hollow & numb, hearing her say it in my mind thousands of times since then..... I value that she was made more whole in self awareness & by admitting she knew what she did to me & that it was wrong & she wished she hadn't done that. To this day, I miss her. She was a great mom in other ways, aside from the abuse she put me through. And I'm still trying to win the approval I'll never get from my dead mother through other ppl, who are also never going to give me that validation, that it's okay to be who I am.

Great episode comrade Beat, when are we having our Kropotkin reading sesh?

I can understand having a stance against a minimum wage but there has to be collective bargaining strong enough that a minimum wage law becomes pretty much pointless to have. Before that however, there does make sense to have a minimum wage law since unions aren't strong enough in the US at all.

@lemurwrench6344

2 жыл бұрын

UBI can give workers enough leverage by itself. Collective bargaining on top of that is unnecessary. UBI makes minimum wage & unions both obsolete.

@WiloPolis03

2 жыл бұрын

@@lemurwrench6344 Not necessarily, unions aren't just about wages, they're also about making sure each worker gets their voice heard and isn't mistreated

@lemurwrench6344

2 жыл бұрын

@@WiloPolis03 again, unions do that through leverage. UBI also creates that leverage so if you uni you don't need unions.

@WiloPolis03

Жыл бұрын

@@lemurwrench6344 Mfw bosses decide to stop making their workers pee in bottles because they received basic income

@lemurwrench6344

Жыл бұрын

@@WiloPolis03 Yes, because he knows that if he keeps making you pee in bottles that you'll leave & just live off your UBI while you search for a different job with better conditions. Like I said, you have leverage now.

The so-called “left” in the US is considered right-wing in Europe…with the 2 major political parties, we, essentially, have a centrist and secular, albeit, idealistic party (Democratic) and a far-right/authoritarian/religious conservative party (Republican).

@mr-vet

2 жыл бұрын

Retired combat veteran here. 26 years total, enlisted and officer, worked in Intelligence, Special Operations, and Cyber Security. My Political Compass result: Economic Left/Right -6; Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -5.28. The result is about the same as it was the first time I took it in the late 90s. If I remember correctly, though, Libertarian was in the top of the quad and Authoritarian was in the bottom previously. Other political typology tests that I taken before always peg me as Liberal, Liberal Democrat, or Socially Liberal and Fiscally Pragmatic.

@mrsneakers0266

Жыл бұрын

@John Doe I’m from gen phuck up (Gen Z) and I consider myself a conservative. Despite not having a family that went to church often at all and they never instilled political or religious values on to me. I simply think the leftist are idiots, I know it’s unhealthy but I’m referring to the far left which took most powers in the Democratic Party. They have been forcing trans classes even though they know little about it’s sociatal effects, I personally see it as a media virus to put it bluntly. I can’t fully explain but I have gathered a lot of information that’s hard to process but, I see them as using drastic and dirty tricks to implement socialist reforms. I’m not blindly against socialism but they are going for full Marxism, indulging critical race theory, really all the things from the 1960s (Literally all the movements from the time have Marxist ties) which all want to control the culture. Plus the attempt for a ‘ministry of truth’ including reading text messages-what even Obama tried. All and all one party sees the only option as full blown communism and the others incompetent.

@lamdrewpleasse4667

Жыл бұрын

The abortion laws in Europe are much more restrictive than those passed in democratic states. Not everything in Europe is far-left compared to the US.

@__chinmay__

Жыл бұрын

Yes

In a college class we had a unit on critical thinking, the professor literally said "You must think critically about every proposition and viewpoint" then at the end of the lecture "This should just be taken as fact" when someone questioned his bias. In the assignment for the unit I wrote "I do not believe that a critical thinking class taught at this point in my college career is beneficial and if I have classmates who are learning new material from this lecture I do not believe they will function well after graduation."

@reviveempires

Жыл бұрын

It is extremely hard to teach critical thinking, in HS it mainly came down to doing critiques from different lenses and that basically meant teaching people to think in those specific lenses rather than for themselves. I find it's one of the biggest reasons the political left can't seem to grasp the viewpoints of the political right and say they're "uncritical" since teaching is a rather leftist profession (at least in Canada) so the "lenses" taught are often left leaning. I think the viewpoints of the instructor get in the way too often, only time I had a class where the instructor actually was cool with criticism was my economics writing class where the professor was far left but really allowed for you to write/debate any opinion/critique of the material you wanted and he actually graded it fairly.

@MMMHOTCHEEZE

Жыл бұрын

Bias about what? Critical thinking being an important aspect of life in general? That seems pretty factual to me.

Where I stand politically tends to be Libertarian Left Leaning (looking at my results in most of these tests) But great video and shows the political tests that are good

Mr Beat is on his way to becoming an international centrist (perfection)

I’d be interested to hear how your school/workplace stands in polity, policy and practices on any of these tests, specially your favorite ones.

I'd be curious if a legitimate sociology experiment which had people take many of these political compass tests and then averaged the results would show these tests to be accurate (at least when averaged together).

Mathematics isn't always cut and dry, statistics is a field of mathematics and decisions in it are often pretty subjective.

@jonathansefcik473

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah once you get past differential equations, math becomes a lot more abstract and theoretical. I'm not a mathematician, but still fascinated by people building their careers off things like the four-color theorem.

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

The math I understand is lol

I would trust Mr. Beat in explaining to me what math politics is, ya know, the thing that Florida is trying to hate.

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

Critical Race Theory math!

@dudster_

2 жыл бұрын

@@iammrbeat Do you support CRT in 1-12th grade?

@dragonskunkstudio7582

2 жыл бұрын

@@iammrbeat The development of methods and techniques, involving statistical. and other mathematical treatments, for the study of political structures. and behaviour by the analysis of quantitative data. This includes. questions of statistical theory, probability theory, measurement, data. is what Google says. There must be something more to it than that or else it wouldn't be a hot button issue.

@Hhhhhh-sz9ud

2 жыл бұрын

@@dragonskunkstudio7582 that’s what the math behind it is, the more to it though is that Florida banned virtually all K-5 math textbooks except those from The Carlyle Group.

@0816M3RC

2 жыл бұрын

@@dudster_ There is no CRT being taught in 1st - 12th Grade.

I appreciate the reasoning through the questions. I think you might be over analyzing the use of "should" - in many cases it sounds like you are inferring "should" as "must." I look at "should" as the recommended or ideal, but not compulsory. But, yeah, as an engineer, I struggle with a lot of the absolutist questions myself because I'm always thinking of the exceptions.

44:09 a few minutes before this timestamp you had a question about whether able people who don’t work should be supported, and I initially strongly disagreed but what you said about (paraphrasing) wanting humans as a species to stay alive gave me a perspective I hadn’t thought about when it comes to this question

So many of these initial questions are 3 demensional questions at the very least or questions with 43 shades of gray rendering them 80% worthless.

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

Well not completely worthless, but yes I was frustrated throughout taking most of them

Just an FYI for anyone taking ISideWith, you need to take the additional questions (should be on a right sidebar) for it to be accurate in any way whatsoever

I agree with you in mostly putting agree and disagree(even though some questions I may go the other way), I strongly agree that governments should hold accountable companies that mislead the public

i could not believe the first test result, but i am proud that even though you are the completely opposite of the spectrum tham i am, you make political videos without your political agenda in it, keep up the good work mr. beat

Mr beast while I genuinely love you videos I'm confused on where your getting your information about public sentiment about abortion when polling shows that 60-70% of Americans consistently support the precedent set by roe v Wade and abortion rights? And this is over a period of decades, you make it sound way more 50/50 then it actually is.

@cruxell

2 жыл бұрын

And this is especially after the leaked majority option draft that came out yesterday, most political scientists agree that if a conservative court overturned roe v Wade the Democratic party would see dramatic shift in support

@cruxell

2 жыл бұрын

Ah I tried to link a pew research article that supported my claim but I don't think KZread will let me, its not hard to find if you try searching for it tho

As an anarchist I really enjoyed this stream! Despite obviously not aligning exactly with my views, you’ve still always been one of my favorite KZreadrs/streamers on these sorts of topics. Even then, it does turn out we agree on quite a few things. Great stream!

@supereero9

Жыл бұрын

Nice to have commies like you in this community too

@november666

Жыл бұрын

Hello fellow anarchist!

@Octoyahu

Жыл бұрын

@@november666 November? From LU and BR? Lmao, hi!

@november666

Жыл бұрын

@@Octoyahu idk probably not. I don’t know what either pair of those letters means.

@Octoyahu

Жыл бұрын

@@november666 LibUnity and Black Rose. Lol

"I generally lean prolife, I think pretty much everyone does, no?" Not saying you're right or wrong but the political bias was SEEPING through that statement in a way I thought was kinda funny. I would say I am very much not 'pro-life', although I generally resent that horrifically loaded and unnuanced term.

Good to see you back and great work as usual...Paul Singer deserves exposure...think he's in real deep with the traitor/ criminals that run free... cheers from Mexico

You know, I consider myself center right, maybe even more on the right by today's standards lol...but I just love Me. Beat. The guy is smart and knowledgeable as hell and even if there are things I don't agree with him on, he cas still explain his point of view to the point when I start questioning my position on them :D I'd really like to just chat with him about politics. If there is someone who can turn a right-wing person into a left-wing faster than Palpatine turned Anakin to a dark side then it's Mr. Beat. And I 100% agree with critical thinking. Propositional logic and critical thinking classes were my favorites back when I was studying at the uni.

The 10Groups and Infinite Values (expansion of 8 values) are my favorite ones because they have many different spectrums. A simple left-right spectrum, or even the basic political compass is not enough!

@arby327

Жыл бұрын

The more axes a political compass test has the better

@theparadigm8149

Жыл бұрын

@@arby327 👍

I’m gonna be completely honest. I love your vids and content, and your opinions on this will not affect how much I watch your videos in any way. I frankly don’t agree nor do I respect your opinion on abortion and the 2nd amendment, however I do respect the fact that you have those opinions. This is what people need to understand. You don’t need to agree or even respect the actual opinion itself, but you aren’t usually a good person if you can’t respect and understand the fact that they have their own opinion and you’re a bad person if you hate on them for that opinion. Loved the video!

One saying changed a great deal of how I see the world and it applies to a few of the questions here- "Tradition is just peer pressure from dead people."

@MMMHOTCHEEZE

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure a similar quote can be made about nationalism. At the end of the day it's literally the same thing.

@zachariahpoltergeist4516

Жыл бұрын

@@MMMHOTCHEEZE exactly.

@Cokeland Saxton Gaming Homophobia exists independent of Christianity. In some atheist states such as USSR and PRC, gay people were harshly punished. It is an authoritarian thing not a Christian thing.

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

What was this a response to?

@scvboy1

2 жыл бұрын

No it wasn’t lol.

@rl2023te

2 жыл бұрын

Lol ???

@ewanmartin5222

2 жыл бұрын

Just adding some more detail to the USSR homosexuality was legal under Lenin but was made illegal under Stalin

@ewanmartin5222

2 жыл бұрын

@@night6724 um no the legislation of homosexuality in the USSR was confirmed in the RSFSR Penal Code of 1922. While it might not have been Lenin that confirmed it, the code was legalized under him

I'm completely pro-choice, not because I support Abortion but because I don't think the goverment should have any regulations of someone's body. Some states are even trying to ban plan b and contraceptives, I think these Abortion bans are setting a precedence for something much worse.

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I actually think the majority of people are against abortion.

@abrahamlincoln937

2 жыл бұрын

@@iammrbeat Yeah I think that people who identify as pro-choice believe that abortion should be legal even if they personally oppose abortion.

@Ruby_V_

2 жыл бұрын

@@abrahamlincoln937 I can second that. I label myself as abortion positive over pro-choice. I think it's fantastic that we now have the means for safe and effective abortion (it's extremely cheap/easy before 10 weeks too!). It's extremely harmful to individuals and our society to try to influence or coerce people into carrying their unwanted pregnancies to term.

@wannerknappe0483

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ruby_V_ well after some point the baby also becomes a person woth a body in my opinion and then the mother descides about the babies body. Also it takes two to get pragnent and, unless in case of rape, having sex is a choice. I also think government can and should not outlaw abortion completely, but late-term abortions should really be illegal

@rachelk4805

Жыл бұрын

@@wannerknappe0483 Most women don't carry a fetus to the third trimester and then abort for funsies. Sometimes the fetus is even dead, or not viable, and the "abortion" is just a procedure to remove the dead tissue because it is dangerous/traumatic for the woman to just wait it out. There is so much gray area, that's why I am pro-choice. I made the decision to have my daughter in a difficult situation and I ended up being lucky. But I know other women in my situation were not lucky, they are dead. Grief and pain gives you wisdom. If you don't know the many heartaches that drive a woman into the abortion clinic, count yourself lucky, but don't think you are capable of being the arbiter of who is allowed to seek this necessary medical care. You don't understand it fully enough, you never could, each situation is different.

The problem with some of the political quizzes is how the questions/statements are written, the degree to which one agrees or disagrees with a question/statement or lack there of (ie, yes/no/neutral).

23:25 it's a question that can be interpreted many ways. Henry George (not a socialist) was in favor of making all land a public good, economically, while still allowing private use of land. This would be archived by simply shifting all government revenue to a land value tax

I think, in addition to this, you should try out the political sextant quiz. It matches you up with ideologies, and shows you which ones you most and least agree with. I learned about ones I had no idea even existed, so I had fun with it.

@paisleepunk

Жыл бұрын

My results on that were mostly related to anarchy, socialism, and social revolution (queer anarchy and marxist feminism for example).

@lukasbusch2135

Жыл бұрын

@@paisleepunk I fear you

Took these tests with you, and despite disagreeing with you on some issues, we fall rather closely on most of the tests! I'm slightly more liberal and lean more towards libertarian than you, and leaned more towards pacifism, but other than that fell rather closely. Though on the Typology Test I was Establishment Democrat instead of Outsider Left.

@AbsurdTurk

Жыл бұрын

I think it's really hard to usually exactly label oneself on where they are on the political spectrum, because like: it's not just about what policies and values you prefer, but also how *passionate* you are about those things if that makes sense?

More labels, not less. It's fun and informative.

For a short video you done a great job explaining thing about immigration. I brought my wife here and so many people don't understand immigration. Your video is good.

1:49:27 Basically, when the folks say _the left_ it basically means anyone they don't like pretty much.

It's nice to see that you're supportive of trans people, at least broadly. There's been a lot of fear-mongering about the issue in recent years, and I think a lot of that has to do with the general public not understanding the transgender experience, and not being educated about trans healthcare (especially what that looks like for children), and certain fascist elements both in and out of the US making it a hot button political issue, which has only hurt trans people. Anecdotally, I've heard a lot of people say it's harder to be trans now than it was ten years ago.

@hankschrader7050

2 жыл бұрын

Also, something that both LGBT and normal people fail to understand and/or communicate to one another is that trans and gay people also do not understand the straight (particularly straight male) experience. From what I've seen, I'd say that most LGBT people are under a false impression that the disgust they are met with from most straight men is socially programmed into those men. As if they arent genuinely disgusted but are simply putting on a show in order to feel masculine. This of course, could not be further from the truth. Straight males have a biological instinct to immediately become traumatized upon the thought of sexual acts involving gay men or transgender women. In the exact same sense that most would feel the same towards pedophilia or beastiality.

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

2 жыл бұрын

Yep

@KaiUchiha15

2 жыл бұрын

Children shouldn’t be mutilated and chemically castrated. The fact that this is even a debated issue shows how far we’ve fallen as a country

@livingthealelife9415

2 жыл бұрын

"I've heard a lot of people say it's harder to be trans now than it was ten years ago." Of anyone blame the corporate duopoly and their use of the issue to evade economic policy (because that would expose the corporate corruption in the political system) more than anything.

@xaviertrujillo506

2 жыл бұрын

@@KaiUchiha15 so you disagree with circumcision I assume

I like that you have a bottle of _Leninade_ on the shelf behind you. That's a real fine vintage, comrade!

You should just randomly post a video of you just absolutely CHUGGING that bottle of Leninade in the background.

16:38 The moment MrBeat was nearly canceled LOL

Very interesting video Mr. Beat. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 I agree with you more than I previously thought. Greetings from Sweden. 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

Another Swedish viewer, holy crap. I am making a video about your country!

@deteon1418

2 жыл бұрын

@@iammrbeat O: That will be very interesting to watch! 👍🏻 Prepare thyself to be judged. 👨🏼‍⚖️

Great content as always, I find that for viewers this is important information to know, and I think content creators (even though they don't need to and it is their right to not disclose this information) should be more honest and clear about where they stand in the political spectrum, specially the self proclaim third party creators.

Yeah you always struck me as very liberal

“You socialist Mr. Beat” had me dying with laughter! 😂😂😂

Great stream mr beat! I identify mainly as libertarian left. Align with Bernie Sanders

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like we are in the same tribe, but let's not get too tribal 😏

@tylerhackner9731

2 жыл бұрын

@@iammrbeat true tribal politics is never good lol

@livingthealelife9415

2 жыл бұрын

@@night6724 I dislike Sanders as well but I'm curious to why you dislike him.

@livingthealelife9415

2 жыл бұрын

@@night6724 Regarding success and class struggle, I'm also curious on your opinion of Ralph Nader. He's not mentioned a lot but he had a lot of success at one point, and did a lot for consumer protection.

@livingthealelife9415

2 жыл бұрын

@@night6724 *Green Party. Anyways, based on what I know he (*edited, Nader) was incredibly influential in the 1970s and was consistently working with Congress to get more consumer protections passed. Then big business locked out his press time and soon due to more corporate-friendly measures he lost access to Congress as well. The loss of his and other consumer protection groups' access to Congress is why he became involved with presidential politics in the first place. Then came 2000, where he ran an impressive campaign, and was used as a scapegoat in a truly awful manner by the Democratic Party ("spoiler") following Gore barely losing, this was really due to the Supreme Court in my opinion. This is also where my dislike of Sanders stems from as he actively believed the myths and refused to return any of his calls despite how familiar Nader is with the system, and I feel this adds to your point that Sanders is more of an ideologue than an accomplisher, who even worse shilled for the Democratic Party.

“Not if those values suck” is such a good line.

Hell yeah we're pretty close on the political compass test (I'm slightly more left and up a little bit)

I am somewhat surprised that Mr beat consideres himself pro life leaning

@alexsayshi6782

2 жыл бұрын

he’s actually said before he came from a catholic family, which could be why

@pleaseenteraname1103

2 жыл бұрын

He’s not really pro-life though he said he still supports abortion.

Love this Mr. Beat fella. Can tell he’s got his heart in the right place.

On the abortion question. If a person kills a person that is pregnant, they are likely to be convicted of double homicide. Therefore, the answer to the question should say it's okay to murder the unborn under certain circumstances, such as rape Or incest.

@denniscole5105

6 ай бұрын

Has anyone ever got convicted of murdering a fetus that hasn't had much time to develop? I'm just curious I have no idea

@markmartin5018

6 ай бұрын

If it is known to exist, sure

@markmartin5018

6 ай бұрын

@denniscole5105 play with fire and you get burned. Get it?

@denniscole5105

6 ай бұрын

@@markmartin5018 then I think that's messed up. How could someone be convicted of killing a fetus but a mother can abort it

@markmartin5018

6 ай бұрын

@@denniscole5105 oh boy

Excellent point about the term "race"! You seem to be the only other person who gets this that I've come across. Another "race" would be like a neanderthal, denisovan, homo erectus, etc... and even then the term is not only problematic, but scientifically incorrect. I always make a point of using the term "ethnicity". I don't know that that's the perfect term either but "race" is definitely incorrect. Likewise, when I am in a conversation with people using the term "race" I try to start a dialogue about it. I know that makes me sound really PC which I absolutely am not, but in this case there is a strong scientific basis.

At around 1:44:40 you said you don’t know anyone that is for late term abortions. Well, now you know one person Mr. Beat! I know it sounds bad but here’s my reasoning: I think absolutely no woman would be pregnant for 8 months and then spontaneously change her mind. At that point, you’re getting ready for the baby’s arrival and there’s even hormones released that make you feel extremely protective over the baby. The reason I feel that late-term abortions should be legal is because of a story I read about a woman named Elizabeth Weller who nearly died because of an abortion law. The embryonic fluid sac burst in her womb and the baby was still alive but was bound to die and kill the mother in the process. The doctors were afraid to be sued by the state for performing an abortion before she had a specific list of symptoms. However, time is of the essence in these cases when the mothers life is at risk and no body is always going to have the same symptoms in all cases. That’s why I believe that we should cut out the bureaucracy and save peoples lives in the process. Having an abortion ban EXCEPT when the mothers life is at risk sounds great but it’s actually really difficult legally to define when she’s at risk and that does lead to the death of many mothers. Don’t hate me in the comments just putting my opinion out there.

@ltsFaited

Жыл бұрын

Dude nothing can excuse killing a fully formed human baby in the womb I don’t care about your excuses or political reasons it’s horrible

I remember taking a test that measures your political leanings based on things such as your news sources, the way you would name certain news articles, etc. I can't remember what it was called though

@seangutierrez1337

Жыл бұрын

Was it called “Ground News”?

@AbsurdTurk

Жыл бұрын

It sounds like a dumb test.

Great video again mr. beat! Knowing full well now that you’re all for separation of church and state, can you do a video on Christian nationalism or theocracy and the growth of it’s ideology spreading here in America? It’s scary how much it’s being validated by current congress members and I think it’s important for people, especially your large audience, to know how much of a threat it is to all Americans of different backgrounds.

Mr. Beat is so un ironically funny LMAOOO honestly makes me laugh so much

Dammit! I live in the other side of the globe so I missed the stream:(

@iammrbeat

2 жыл бұрын

Well I shall leave this up, so no worries!

I'm happy I actually went through and watched your content. I always thought you were a far-left liberal teacher- turns out I was wrong. Great video, dropped a sub.

I don't know if you do these live, however it might be kind of cool to do this in such a way that your patrons submit questions in a similar way as these questions, and either you or you can then have them vote for what political alignment they believe your answer is based also on how you break down your answer, and at the end of the questionnaire you tally it up to see where you end up and whether or not ir surprises people. I have dyslexia so it has unfortunately caused me to have issues with reading comprehension, and I overthink like crazy, so when I answer questions like this im not sure how to answer each, so I always wonder if the results of these questions are just me misunderstanding how to appropriately answer a question, so I wonder how different the results would be if people heard the reason behind the answer before they take a definitive stance on how I might actually feel about something. I think on a much different scale it could be telling of where the world is at right now and why everything feels so divided.

@demi172

4 ай бұрын

he did do this live, it was streamed on may 2022

Mr. Beat, I’d recommend the American Values test as well. I’ve found it to be pretty spot on when it comes to matching what I think of my beliefs