What do you think intelligent Aliens would look like? UPDATE: Event Horizon 2.0 is almost here. Full announcement soon about a podcast archive that includes all of Event Horizon and all of John's channel, EARLY access to ad free episodes (sometimes months early), music and non music versions of EH episodes, bonus interviews, audio books, and a new show hosted by a familiar voice.

@Lexluthor2024

2 жыл бұрын

Very advanced

@laurencemoore8519

2 жыл бұрын

I think that would depend on their environment and evolution. Yet at the back of my mind, due to being raised on star trek, i somehow think a humanoid shape perhaps with four legs instead of two, like a centaur, might be "Normal." interesting talk, really enjoyed it.

@andyoates8392

2 жыл бұрын

Slime mould. Dressed in snazzy tight fitting spandex suits.

@laurencemoore8519

2 жыл бұрын

@@andyoates8392 MMmm you ever been to my gym?

@qwok

2 жыл бұрын

giant brains with tentacles. i dream about it all the time.

I love it when I forget it's Thursday evening...like finding a twenty in your back pocket!!

@jedimasterted4712

2 жыл бұрын

You forget not Thursday, rather, you forget the best poster on you tube graces us all in the evening on this day, so you may be happily surprised again and again.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Me too

@waynebridges.9289

2 жыл бұрын

True words 👏 regards to you from Australia.

@Max_Ufc

2 жыл бұрын

@@waynebridges.9289 gooday sheila, from uk 🇬🇧

@morsecodereviews1553

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for reminding me! Means just one more 12 hour shift and then two days off ✌

Perfect timing for my train trip to London. Thank you for sharing John, such an interesting subject

@EventHorizonShow

2 жыл бұрын

Have a great trip Steve!

So good. My ONLY complaint is that you two didn't talk about gravity's tendency to have caused the mouth, nose, eyes setup for so many Earthlings. Eyes evolving on top to FIND food. Nose to triangulate upon it and locate it. Mouth to consume it, lowest to the ground. All of this comes from natural selection and gravity sort of accidentally working together - from when we were slugs to now. Fantastic, fantastic discussion. JMG asks so many good, interesting and probing question and Arik Kershenbaum really delivers. I plan to listen to The Zoologist's Guide to the Galaxy next week. Already bought it.

@Bronco541

2 жыл бұрын

is this an actual scientific theory about the face? or just personal speculation?

@towedarray7217

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bronco541 it’s definitely fact but I don’t know if there’s a name for it. It’s obvious if you look around at the entire animal kingdom. I can’t speak for *every* microbe or microscopic creature but heck even tardigrades work this way.

@rikospostmodernlife

2 жыл бұрын

@@towedarray7217 the orientation of the mouth thing is very prevalent but there's supraterminal and terminal fish mouths, and I think the position of the eyes has more to do with the fact that light comes (obviously) from above, which isn’t directly related to gravity. Now that i think of it the position of the mouth in vertebrates is a consequense of evolving from bentic fish. Were they evolved from surface feeding fish, tetrapod predators would look perhaps like some kind of chameleon-pirayagua mix, with a very high mouth and side projecting, front facing eyes.

Another hour of content? The man is really spoiling us

@EventHorizonShow

2 жыл бұрын

Finish your full hour of Event Horizon before leaving the table, please.

One of the important things to remember about aliens is that if we're going to be all properly Copernican about it, they should all be as different from _each other_ as they are from us, which I think implies that intelligent beings will exist on various spectra of similarity & difference, and we might meet giant cyborg starfish-siphonophore things who uncannily remind us of people we know back home (or like the Tines from _A Fire Upon the Deep_ who are hive minds we have a ton in common with), next to disappointingly humanoid beings whose minds are utterly incomprehensible. Also tho I wonder if any species is more likely to first encounter more similar beings first, since they'd be looking for each other in the same places.

@nutyyyy

2 жыл бұрын

I do agree in principle but its easy to let our imaginations run wild. There are constraints to intelligence and tool use and frankly if you don't need it to survive then chances are you won't end up developing it. Many groups were very successful with relatives limited intelligence even compared to a lot of mammals. Dinosaurs had their own set of characteristics that allowed them to thrive for well over a hundred million years on earth. So its not at all unlikely that if you replayed Earth's history that you'd end up with humans or technology using lifeforms.

@Jim-de4dj

2 жыл бұрын

I bloody well married her.

@BigZebraCom

2 жыл бұрын

@@nutyyyy Intelligent life doesn't necessarily need to use tools. Instead they could contract out; but only if they can use a phone.

This guy kinda sounds like Stewie, which makes him seem even more legit. haha

John! Another 10/10 episode. Great edit, great theme, great guest, great questions, awesome perspective Thank you

Absolutely fascinating show this week, your guest was amazing, I’m going to buy his book, extremely informative, thank you and kindest of regards.

Your content is absolutely brilliant.. I have listened to this particular show 4 times.

Another week almost gone and another event horizon episode is among us, as I've said it before I just love these episodes! great work John. 👍

OH YES! Event Horizon John Michael Godier Aliens I just love it. My greetings from Greece

I always figured kinda like us.....Convergent evolution deal

@EventHorizonShow

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed.

great interview John and thanks for adding the index/chapter thingy in the timeline. cheers

I applaud you for this excellent episode. I was literally listen to this while working as a biologist (determining, sorting, and quantifying meiofauna from the deep sea into higher taxa), and this interview kept me afloat. Thanks so much, and what a brilliant interviewee Dr. Kershenbaum was.

A very interesting conversation. Thanks for your great work.

I thoroughly enjoyed this podcast. Keep up the great work.

Natural laws may lead to familiar solutions, but familiarity also cuts the other way - many bring up cephalopods as an example of the infinite possibilities of alien anatomies, but to me, they are more an example of something completely different: our capacity to relate to and become familiar with even deeply dissimilar beings to ourselves, given time and exposure. Familiarity is more a function of time and exposure than of similarity, after all. Similarity merely reduces the time to achieve familiarity by allowing the familiarization of the past to apply to new encounters. Dogma and bias hamper this capacity through discrimination not by making familiarity difficult, but by providing a false image to be familiar with before an individual discovers reality through experience - crucially, it does so in a way that is lacking in nuance and therefore heuristically easy. I think it's far more effective to show victims of dogma that they were lied to from the outset than publicly shame them and declare that they are wrong, but I digress. In any case, I personally believe writers (especially science fiction writers, no offense ;) ) and scientists alike tend to vastly underestimate humanity's capacity to turn the world-shaking revelatory discoveries of today into the simple mundanities of tomorrow. Perhaps the true limits of human boredom are extended more by each discovery than each discovery can move us towards them... a sort of intellectual cosmic horizon. Perhaps, given that the horizon would be pushed ever further by each _event_ of both discovery and imagination, it would be appropriate to call this a "cognitive Event Horizon". ...Perhaps.

I love the longer podcasts! Always excited when i see a new upload from this channel and your other channel ❤️

Always a thumbs up buddy keep it interesting

Awesome topics, thank you!

Very interesting guest, thank you! Now, let's get to Enceladus and look underneath that ice!

Oh YES. A good long one, almost an hour. Thanks!

The topic is too fascinating!

Another fascinating episode

Love the questions in this one JMG. Great guest and great listen!!

54:35 ish... yes there is interspecies communication....I think... During hunting season, Ravens will alert everybody to your location if they spot you, same with flying squirrels...I've noticed squirrels yelling at just about every species, " my nuts, my nuts, stay away from my @#$%& nuts!!!"

We so need a ‘Part 2’ to this, with more discussion around technological Aliens - I.e. likelihood of them having a humanoid appearance, thumbs for tool making etc., and whether water/liquid dwelling Aliens could develop technologically given that fire would be difficult..? Thanks for the vid though 🙏

the last question made me think of a funny story. we had an african grey who would spend hours giving our dogs commands. making them sit, lie down and so on with my grandmothers voice. the parrot would also drop a treat like a banana slice or a grape every now and then so the dogs stick around and dont get bored. this would go on for several hours at least with one dog. this dog would have done anything for a treat lol. I think at first the dogs where confused and did it thinking it was my grandma shouting from another room, but later figured it out and continued doing it for the treats.

@esquilax5563

2 жыл бұрын

I would've loved to have seen a video of that!

Damn, JMG ... Due to a power outage in my region, internet is down . So, I got on my bike and went to the office building just to download your video then I'm going back home and I'll have my weekly EH video for bedtime . Sheesh. 🤗

@alistairmeldrum4272

2 жыл бұрын

sounds like pish to me :)

@samdog8087

2 жыл бұрын

How long was that bike ride

@eduardolima6191

2 жыл бұрын

@@samdog8087 25 mins .

Great video and information !

Great interview, thank you 🙏👍💪

I choose to believe that they look like elf's gnomes goblins and dwarfs cause otherwise I should sell the giant box of multi sided dice ive been carrying around like a treasure since 6th grade lol

@YOOTOOBjase

2 жыл бұрын

Just post them to me!

@jamesf.9079

2 жыл бұрын

@@YOOTOOBjase NEVER someday I will sell them with the 3 beany babies i found after my sister went to college back in 97 lol its my retirement plan you cant have it!

@michaelpettersson4919

2 жыл бұрын

If we spread out in the universe and genetically engineer ourselves to fit each world we definetly could end up there. Dwarfs would fit nicely on high gravity worlds for instance while the elves with their slim bodies would do better on low gravity worlds.

@jamesf.9079

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelpettersson4919 you release im so gana use you to troll ppl on reddit cause they never liked my idea :(

Thank you for this podcast. There a lot more to this world than we can possibly imagine

Intelligence for me is that its soo rare its almost impossible because it takes sooo long to involve to our level that its rare for a planet to be safe that long without planet changing events happen

One of the best guests ever. And great interview. I was expecting at some point, given some of the topics, we would veer into science fiction futurism, but we didn't. Thx.

I'm addicted to this channel!! 🥴

I’m 3 days late, but here none the less!

Wow amazing!

That Little Piece AT The End Was Funny.

They would look like Skinny Bob? There's plenty of pictures of skinny Bob on the Internet? He was a part of the crash retrieval program? If you can find that there's actually live video of him?

It's cause you're content is always good.

You the man John!

is it possible another planet has the exact same atmospheric conditions as earth? What range of variability from Earth could support life

@JohnMichaelGodier

2 жыл бұрын

Totally possible. In fact, life on earth arose under very different atmospheric conditions to now. There was little oxygen, and a lot of hydrogen and helium around in those days. The hydrogen and helium slowly escaped into space blown away by the solar wind, and when photosynthesis evolved it oxygenated the atmosphere drastically altering it. But other atmospheres that might support microbial life could be carbon dioxide, very high purity nitrogen as at Titan, and so on. So for atmospheric gases, there are lots of options for microbes. But for complex life, the choices get narrower and oxygen becomes a necessary component due to its wide ranging reactivity.

@michaelpettersson4919

2 жыл бұрын

Also remember that capability to support life and capability to evolve life are different things. One way to search for alien civilisations are to look for worlds that support life where it shouldn't be able to develop any meaning that someone are adapting that world.

Thanks John... was at the point of rewatching stuff last night haha awesome... awesome subject as always

This should be interesting.

I discovered the two of your channels here in KZread, and... Danm! This is true gold. I am into knowledge, but your work is another level. Thank you for this, and congratulations!

@EventHorizonShow

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Daniel.

@Mermaider

2 жыл бұрын

Check Isaac Arthur

@AnonymousBosch3158

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mermaider I will...

@JohnMichaelGodier

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Daniel. If you like my content, do check out Isaac Arthur but also Cool Worlds and Dr. Brian Keating for more in-depth science interviews.

@Mermaider

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnMichaelGodier wow John! Thank you so so soooo much! Would have never knew about them without u.

Ahhhh...cozy sleepy time. 😀

Another fantastic interview, JMG! Thanks a lot! 😃 It was almost hearing what I think myself. I totally agree with Dr. Arik Kershenbaum. I'm definitely going to look for his book! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

you should be on the podcast apps. Your awesome :)

Interesting.

ET, Close encounters, Arrival, A Quiet Place and a lot more. All nude! I appreciate it would be hard enough designing an alien, let alone what they might wear, but it would be great if you could do a video on that subject 🤙

@MrTaxiRob

2 жыл бұрын

omg... am I an alien, too?

@JcoleMc

2 жыл бұрын

Alex rises : The Birrin

@ivarbrouwer197

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting! having clothes enabled humans to venture into habitats not suited for them, then the leap to having space, diving suits, boats, bikes, exo-skeleton’s and airplanes etc are logical next steps: don’t adept physically environment, create means to enable your physique to deal with it. Maybe tool making as an evolutionary tale are a bit overrated, clothes making might be equally important in our evolution, but hides and fabrics aren’t preserved as well as axes and spears.

@caioaco1493

2 жыл бұрын

Obviously aliens from a tropical planet would wear thongs, while ets form an ice planet would pass oil in their skins and wear thongs.

Good episode. I believe aliens will look familiar or so strange we couldn't recognize it if we tried

@michaelpettersson4919

2 жыл бұрын

I imagine some wierd looking but practical starfish aliens. It would be funny if they despite this are mentally just like us down to the equivalent of our many cultural expressions.

The 'stereotype' for aliens is 'the "insectizoids" e.g. from movies "Alien", "Starship Troopers", "Enders Game" ... etc etc. but I dunno I can forsee more horrendous looking life forms being winners out there in the universe .. think John Carpenter's "The Thing".

@michaelpettersson4919

2 жыл бұрын

I suspect that the alien in The Thing took over the body of the original pilot of that ship. Anyway there are an episode on Star Trek Next Generation that are practically a rip off of The Thing.

I like that this guest kept to his scientific rigor and didn't go off into make-believe-land when prodded to do so.

Interesting and thought provoking. Well done to both of you. Thank you.

Anything comes to visit us, then it would have to be some kind of artificial intelligence

Lovely evening chill, thank you John :)

Travis walton has seen them supposedly. Interesting descriptions

So fascinating. Thank you, John.

Why are aliens pictured as naked. They can do warp speed but can’t weave clothes.

@michaelpettersson4919

2 жыл бұрын

The eternal batchelors that loose any sign of civilization in their appearance. Why bother with clothes when you can skip that and never ever have to the laundry again? 😉

I have a hard time believing that a life form that lives in a sub-surface ocean, with it's entire "universe" contained in that finite space, could develop anywhere near human being's level of intelligence. Just the lack of access to the stimuli of the outside world would be extremely limiting. They'd have no concept of beyond, or elsewhere, or anything more.

@russellst.martin4255

2 жыл бұрын

No fire, either.

@starry2006

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-pf5xq3lq8i Dinosaurs did rule the world. for 10s of millions of years.

@xxxneoxxx

Жыл бұрын

Their intelligence is evolving alongside us, as we are indeed becoming that stimulus for them in so many ways, from rec fisherman catching them to the dolphin trainers. So many things to consider in monitoring behaviours and intelligence.

A very interesting and thought provoking interview, top marks to JMG

you feed my shower thoughts John tnx

I love u jmg

With regards to communication, I am surprised Dr. Kershenbaum did not mention odor / smell. Or is that not considered complex enough to be mentioned in this context?

@michaelpettersson4919

2 жыл бұрын

Would be funny if that would be the case and they frantically trying to figure out how we communicate without a direct control of our pheromones.

Communication over long distance is not only the domain of sound: although more biological, many animals communicate very clearly and over even longer distances (and time) through scent: excreting pheromones is very effective in marking territory or communicating it’s time to procreate.

Very interesting episode! I love all the various perspectives that are on this show.

A good book I just read is called the zoologists guide to the galaxy- it covered questions like this and how the evolutionary paths would be different on different planets but def interesting and worth checking out

@EventHorizonShow

2 жыл бұрын

The author of that book is the guest in this video….

@sebarola

2 жыл бұрын

@@EventHorizonShow very kind gentle answer. Nice one JMG. BTW - I heard that rock song named after you - very cool also. Maybe use that as the Halloween opening music?

@user-vh1si2zl9w

2 жыл бұрын

@@EventHorizonShow my bad I q’d this for later viewing and didn’t remember the authors name haha I feel dumber than a bag of rocks

@EventHorizonShow

2 жыл бұрын

It’s ok Sean. It happens to all of us. Thanks for watching.

Keep up the good work. I love listening to this channel while at work in a digger!

@EventHorizonShow

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Darren!

Hey hey my favorite subject! You rock JMG! 👽

Even tho their fields are very different I think it'd be interesting to get Arik Hirschenbaum and Avi Loeb in a room together... 😅

Great interview. On the question of uploading consciousness to the cloud, isn’t he assuming that once one was uploaded they wouldn’t be able to receive additional input, eg visual, audio, data, etc? Computers can receive external input of many kinds, I don’t see any reason this couldn’t be true for uploading one’s consciousness. Maybe I misunderstood him.

Try something that looks like either the KZIN or the Pierson's Puppeteers (Larry Niven and his Tales from Know Space) Of course, the Andorians, the Vulcans, the Klingons, the Ferengi, ect

@exhaustguy

2 жыл бұрын

At least Star Trek tried to account for the overabundance of humanoid races with only foreheads and ears that are different. The episode is TNG: The Chase.

I personally think most aliens would look like our sea life. I think land life would be extremely rare. There are many body plans that work in our seas from fish, crabs, starfish, jellyfish even corals.

@TraditionalAnglican

2 жыл бұрын

We’re talking about intelligent, technologically advanced extraterrestrials.

@spindoctor6385

2 жыл бұрын

@@TraditionalAnglican You can talk about whatever you like.

@Barabel22

2 жыл бұрын

@@spindoctor6385 If they’re stuck in the oceans, they’re never going to become an Advanced space faring civilization, those are the ones that really matter.🤷‍♂️

@spindoctor6385

2 жыл бұрын

@@Barabel22 That is kindof my point, although I do not believe that living in water completely eliminates the chance of technology, I do believe that it is enough of a factor to drastically reduce the existence of space travelling creatures to the point of statistical insignificance. I see no reason at all to believe that technology is any more than a side effect of the extremely rare type of intelligence that just so happened to be a successful evolutionary tactic for 1 species on 1 planet for what is so far an extremely short period of time.

Finally! It’s said - sound is not an optimum modality to contact aliens .

Great episode and great guest. I would love have him back. Thanks!!!!

@EventHorizonShow

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Strick. Hope you’re recovering well.

@stricknine6130

2 жыл бұрын

@@EventHorizonShow Thanks.

Do you think first contact with advanced civilizations will be of huge significance for all of us?

@bozo5632

2 жыл бұрын

Describe the contact. Detecting a faint, artificial radio blip in a faraway galaxy is one thing; the arrival of a Vogon Construction fleet in Earth orbit is another; ten billion hawt chicks from Arcturus here for two weeks on spring break is yet another. Significance varies accordingly.

@russiansoul6919

2 жыл бұрын

@@bozo5632 Close arrival of something that is existentially dangerous for us

@bozo5632

2 жыл бұрын

@@russiansoul6919 Yeah, that would be significant. You gotta wonder why they'd bother, though.

@michaelpettersson4919

2 жыл бұрын

@@bozo5632 I choose the third option if that is allowed. Only to find out that Arcturians beauty standards are significantly different from ours. There are also the possibility of a gigantic anti climax when we find out that some well know micro organism that have been with us since practically forever actually have alien orgins. Not that those would be an advanced civilization but one could have intentionally or unintentionally left the micro organism behind during a brief visit many millions of years ago.

Mind blown (piqkeeuw); between this episode and that recent one about "information" i have a lot more to think about other than wondering if hobos are aliens in disguise.

It's quite interesting that all the varieties of birds are traced back to dinosaurs. But isn't it so interesting that there are so few mammals (can only think of bats) that fly? So imagine if the dinosaurs didn't go extinct...

@sidpomy

2 жыл бұрын

It is surprising that bats are the only mammals capable of sustained flight. I’d wager that if birds didn’t make it through the extinction event, we’d see a lot of mammals filling those niches. As it is, probably hard to compete with the already supremely adapted species of birds.

@2l84t

2 жыл бұрын

The mammals that survived lived underground as did the snakes that hunted them. Not a lot of use for wings.

The first steps of intelligence are taken by many, many species. Human intelligence comes from tool use, also demonstrated by different species. The mastering of fire an metallurgy though, seems like a niche development that only fits a limited set of ecosystems (land). And those enabling ecosystems need to be present at a world for human like intelligence to emerge. Those conditions might be rare, even if (complex) life can be on many places.

This interview was good after the first few questions it really came into its own. Dr, Kershenbaum has a unique perspective.

Great subject. Great timing for my evening wind down 😁

I don’t know the last time an hour went by that fast

fascinating stuff. Going to pick up the Zoologists Guide to the Galaxy

This channel singlehandedly makes my life better. Thank you.

@EventHorizonShow

2 жыл бұрын

Happy to hear that. Thank you for watching.

This conversation was such a treat

You should make a more careful distinction between “electricity” and sensing a dc electric field or a high frequency field. In that respect, bioluminescence is communication by electricity.

Which evolutionary pressures are deemed realistic?

Can something like a propeller evolve? We do have one biological example of a gear (Issus genus). Are there any biological alternatives to proteins, nucleic acids, and ATP? Could there be something different than a eukaryotic cell that would have different "rules" and "constraints"?

@charlescook5542

2 жыл бұрын

He made this point when talking about communicating light versus sound versus electricity. Maybe it’s possible to evolve a propeller but all a propeller does is generate lift over wings by pulling the object. You can get that same lift with wings by flapping them so why evolve some much more complex and energy intensive utility when you don’t have to.

I’m excited to watch this one. I’m glad you don’t immediately discredit the recent UAP/UFO phenomenon. You seem genuinely interested in it and I can appreciate that.

@EventHorizonShow

2 жыл бұрын

Lue Elizondo in November.

@JohnMichaelGodier

2 жыл бұрын

I would be remiss if I ignored it or dismissed it. There's just too much out there now for that after all the Nimitz pilots and personnel came out. There's something to it that we need to get to the bottom of.

@mjjumps

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnMichaelGodier couldn’t agree more. You should talk to someone from the Nimitz encounter. Kevin Day and David Fravor are great but they are all class acts. Keep up the good work JMG!

Badgers and Coyotes often Hunt together. The coyote will chase prey into its den and the badger will go in and get it. Or the badger will chase prey out of its den and the Coyote will intercept it. Then they share the spoils. If that doesnt take complex or at least more than simple communication im not sure I understand the concept at all.

That was an interesting interview.

One of the best topics, on the best show 🌌

While I too don't think telepathy is particularly likely, it's more through the physics of how such a thing might work, rather than the stated lack of evolutionary impetus. Knowing what a predator is thinking would be an ENORMOUS evolutionary advantage even without transmission. In fact, the reading of minds doesn't require any transmission at all to work at a practical level, if you're reading somethings mind and it's reading yours then bam communication right there. No transmission needed. I think that the answer is actually that it's likely much simpler to to evolve a mind that is a better predictor of action than it would be to evolve some means of reading the thoughts of something else. In fact, if such a thing were possible(and it seems like it's not as far as we can see, or at least not practical in any way) you might even assume that a telepathic entity would actually have a lower intelligence because why would it need to develop a complex mind capable of predicting the future actions of predators or other members of it's own species when it can just know? While predictive capacity is useful outside of predicting the actions of others, it would seem like there would be less evolutionary pressure to develop a complex mind on top of telepathy. Even more so of something that has precognition (which seems even more impossible than telepathy). A precognitive entity would have no reason at all to develop intelligence, as it already knows what's going to happen and doesn't need a complex predictive mind. If that were a thing, you might assume you could find some kind of precognitive slugs or something. TLDR: The idea that mind reading holds no evolutionary advantage if it were possible seems laughably wrong.

They look like super intelligent shades of the color blue of course.

The good doctor is pouring cold water on some favorite (if unfounded) theories here. Much appreciated.

I saw you sir, in the chat for the Lou Elizondo interview. Did you catch his hints about the Chinese book 'The Three-Body Problem'? If so, can we look forward to a future episode about the premise? I'll bet you've already speculated about it, actually; since you're always on the ball.

@EventHorizonShow

2 жыл бұрын

Lue will be on in November.

@darthfakington2227

2 жыл бұрын

@@EventHorizonShow That's fantastic news. May I suggest that you make a post on Twitter and copy in @PostDisclosure? He (Ryan) is a passionate UFO disclosure advocate and at the heart of the UFO community, who isn't tied to any camp. He has a rather large following and would spread the word. I'd do it myself but I can't access Twitter! :) Thanks for all your hard work, Mr Godier. P.S. - His KZread channel, although smaller, is here: kzread.info

Why is it that most scientists are reluctant to say that technological intelligence is probably very rare in the universe?

even if it's not an incidental signal there will be isometries in the structure of the language and our own. The structure of the language will reflect the thing that the language is describing. This is how GPT3 is able to understand human language. This is also how automatic machine language translators in same cases have not required direct translations.