What actually IS an "SPG"? And why are they so important in Ukraine?

Ғылым және технология

An SPG, or a Self Propelled Gun, is a type of armoured vehicle designed to pound the opposition from long range. Despite looking a lot like one, the SPG is not a "tank", and fulfils a very different role in the modern battlefield. The ongoing war in Ukraine has highlighted just how important these vehicles are, and both sides are using them to devastating effect.
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:38 Artillery's Evolution
01:05 Direct vs Indirect
02:07 Regular Artillery
03:10 The Rise of the SPG
04:23 Autoloaders!
04:57 SPGs in Ukraine
05:45 The Future
All content is presented in historical context for educational purposes. All footage is owned by it's copyright holder and is used in this channel under "fair use".
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  • @NguyenPham-to9ip
    @NguyenPham-to9ip Жыл бұрын

    775 football fields or roughly the length of 1.002.148 BigMac side by side

  • @jaex9617

    @jaex9617

    Жыл бұрын

    Americans will do anything to avoid SI units.

  • @kayliibensen387

    @kayliibensen387

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jaex9617 I'm partial to the rural American system of using time as a unit of distance measurement, for example, at average Floridan highway speed(~80mph, so on the lower side of the real average), the M1299 can fire a shell over 30 minutes away!

  • @Gtsu19

    @Gtsu19

    Жыл бұрын

    Bro you are CRAZY crazy

  • @TooTallDean

    @TooTallDean

    8 ай бұрын

    Is that Big Mac system based on the advertising photo, or the real "stepped on" dimensions?

  • @quaxky326

    @quaxky326

    4 ай бұрын

    Finally, a real American.

  • @Beiratet-8
    @Beiratet-8 Жыл бұрын

    These videos are so well presented. With a good voice and without annoying music i'm always so hooked onto their subject

  • @kurt5490

    @kurt5490

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes! No music. It's rare that I finish watching a video with music.

  • @HateTheGame1

    @HateTheGame1

    Жыл бұрын

    Wish they were longer ☹️☹️

  • @RedWrenchFilms

    @RedWrenchFilms

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much! There is actually some music it’s just very quiet :)

  • @carkawalakhatulistiwa

    @carkawalakhatulistiwa

    4 ай бұрын

    @@RedWrenchFilms Russian always have number

  • @toasterhavingabath6980

    @toasterhavingabath6980

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@carkawalakhatulistiwawhat?...

  • @raylast3873
    @raylast3873 Жыл бұрын

    I want to point out that the Germans in WWII used assault guns and tank destroyers much more prodigiously than (what would now be considered) textbook SPGs but in a very similar role. Weapons like the StuG and Jagdpanzer were massively more common in the German army, and were similarly used to support the infantry on the offense and were capable of indirect fire. Arguably the StuG even is supposed to be an SPG, even if it became the mother of tank destroyers as well.

  • @gotanon9659

    @gotanon9659

    8 ай бұрын

    Stug is an assault gun

  • @raylast3873

    @raylast3873

    8 ай бұрын

    @@gotanon9659 and what exactly is the difference between an assault gun and an SPG that‘s getting used as a tank destroyer 70% of the time?

  • @demanischaffer

    @demanischaffer

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@raylast3873Generally assault guns would be armored enough to survive expected frontal threats SPGs are armored to defend from small arms and shrapnel from bombs and enemy artillery

  • @raylast3873

    @raylast3873

    4 ай бұрын

    @@demanischaffer exactly. Which means your assault gun is pretty much just a better SPG and in most cases you‘re going to have zero problems if for whatever reason you use the assault gun instead.

  • @demanischaffer

    @demanischaffer

    4 ай бұрын

    @@raylast3873 Yes'nt Things like the Stug started as Self propelled artillery, but were re-gunned to work better as tank destroyers, Germany had other SPGs that differed greatly in design because they stayed pure artillery The Short Barrel Stugs were artillery at first, if you look at photos from early or pre war you'll see their crews do not wear the tanker uniforms Now a Stug makes a great assault gun because it's armored and enclosed, a long barrel stug makes a good tank destroyer because it's low to the ground and armored, a Priest or Hummel make better artillery platforms because they have higher elevating guns their designs would allow bigger guns to be employed

  • @FullcircleZA
    @FullcircleZA Жыл бұрын

    I don’t know if it’s in your interest but could you discuss the newer guided munitions of these modern spg’s?

  • @jeffbenton6183

    @jeffbenton6183

    Жыл бұрын

    While you're waiting, there's plenty of good information on the M982 Excalibur round on the internet (including here on KZread). That one is probably the most interesting one. (There's also the Precision Guidance Kit, which can be attached to a dumb round to give it a significant fraction of the capability for far less cost).

  • @KuK137

    @KuK137

    5 ай бұрын

    @@jeffbenton6183 Nah, it's complete shit. Russian Krasnopol costs 1/20 the price and is much more accurate, happens when you don't build stuff to enrich 1% first and foremost...

  • @jeffbenton6183

    @jeffbenton6183

    5 ай бұрын

    @@KuK137 India has large stocks of both Excalibur and Krasnopol. Their conclusion is the opposite of yours. They've found Krasnopol unreliable at high altitudes (each one becomes a "dud" to use a direct quote). Excalibur, on the other hand, does not have this problem. The Indians also like that it has a bigger warhead and has "more penetration power" - again to quote their own assessment. Starting in 2019 they began to actually *replace* their stocks of Krasnopol with Excalibur. Also, Krasnopol is *not* one-twentieth the cost of Excalibur, it's one-fifth. Excalibur is still considerably more expensive than Krasnopol, but it's nowhere near as expensive as you claim. Moreover, Excalibur *can* be much cheaper: in 2006, it was fully *half* the price it was now, because they were being built in greater numbers. The US chose to buy fewer of them because they were so effective, that they didn't need as many as they thought in Afghanistan. Remember that economy-of-scale is a thing - they could be built in even greater numbers than they were in 2006, which would make them even cheaper. In any case, the Indians think it's worth the extra cost (and I think they're looking to license-produce their own Excaliburs, which are likely to be cheaper). Lastly, you don't honestly believe that Russia has a weaker 1% than the US, do you? Russia is practically *owned* by its oligarchs. The one societal difference that likely accounts for the extra cost is that American workers demand extra pay. The median household income in the US is 5-10 *times* higher than that of Russia (depending on which part of each country we're discussing, and when in the last five years as well). This more than accounts for the increase in price. If anything, US production of the rounds is likely much more efficient than the Russian procedures, since Excalibur *should* be even more exspensive than it is.

  • @demanischaffer

    @demanischaffer

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@KuK137And I have oceanfront property in Nevada to sell you Russian claims on accuracy and reliability must be taken with a large amount of salt

  • @idk-vx9fz

    @idk-vx9fz

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@KuK137mad cope

  • @bencushwa8902
    @bencushwa8902 Жыл бұрын

    One of the best ways to spot someone who doesn't understand armored combat is to look for the folks who think tanks and SPGs are the same thing because of the way they look. Great video, thanks for sharing.

  • @quan-uo5ws

    @quan-uo5ws

    Жыл бұрын

    or people who think ifvs are tanks

  • @nightshade4873

    @nightshade4873

    Жыл бұрын

    Ryan Mcbeth's HAT method works for them.

  • @mateomignone947

    @mateomignone947

    Жыл бұрын

    I disagree. The definition of a tank has never really been defined and you can find a lot of different definitions wether it's people or Google who said it. To me , SPG ,SPAA, IFV , MBT... They all are tank but with different characteristics and function.

  • @chaosXP3RT

    @chaosXP3RT

    Жыл бұрын

    They don't even look the same to me, which I guess shows that I've spent too much time learning about military history 😅

  • @bencushwa8902

    @bencushwa8902

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@mateomignone947 If you're using Google to look up the definition of "tank", I think you just proved my point. ;)

  • @troywalker8078
    @troywalker8078 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you SOOOOOO much for NOT using computer narration!

  • @Skrunkleosteus
    @Skrunkleosteus Жыл бұрын

    Loving your videos! One thing I noticed---the US' rocket-assisted XM1113 projectile you referenced is 155mm from what I can tell, not 105mm (unless it's a saboted round). Looking forward to more videos.

  • @platiuscyndar9017

    @platiuscyndar9017

    5 ай бұрын

    It is a 155, and noteably, it's pretty much just the already in use Excalibur. It's the gun that's experiemntal, not the round.

  • @nightshade4873
    @nightshade4873 Жыл бұрын

    "High Caliber, Indirect fire gun, on a mobile platform, that can withstand small arms fire and shrapnel" -an oversimplified explanation of the Self Propelled gun. Another video well done i say, a go-through of the history of SPGs and the timelines that each nation military that integrated the doctrine of SPGs would most likely be a great pleasure to learn about.

  • @Techno_Idioto

    @Techno_Idioto

    Жыл бұрын

    Even more oversimplified explaination of the SPG: Big gun on big metal vroom-vroom go boom-boom then zoom-zoom to prevent counter boom-boom from mean people

  • @nightshade4873

    @nightshade4873

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Techno_Idioto " Operation of a SPG for Dummies "

  • @LottoDub720

    @LottoDub720

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Techno_Idiotoeven more simplified version... TANK

  • @Techno_Idioto

    @Techno_Idioto

    3 ай бұрын

    @@LottoDub720 Yeah, that's the long and short of it.

  • @petesheppard1709
    @petesheppard1709 Жыл бұрын

    The greatest risk for artillery was the opposition determining the firing location by sound and more recently radar. Anti-battery radar can determine a gun's location after just a few rounds, which gives the shooter a short window to fire then displace--a truly deadly game of tag.

  • @ThatAnnoyingGuyOnTheInternet

    @ThatAnnoyingGuyOnTheInternet

    6 ай бұрын

    With radars, satellites, drones and fast computers (not even considering AI) I wonder what the future for SPGs will be. Imagine someone starts firing at your position and your computer (with all the available info) immediately calculates the origin location, sets up and fires the gun...

  • @petesheppard1709

    @petesheppard1709

    6 ай бұрын

    @@ThatAnnoyingGuyOnTheInternet Methods will be developed to at least confuse and slow the process, then countermeasures will be figured out; rinse and repeat.

  • @xDlol24

    @xDlol24

    3 ай бұрын

    ⁠​⁠@@ThatAnnoyingGuyOnTheInternet well the typical tactic is: shoot and disappear. First you're hidden in a forrest or a village. You get the order to strike and drive to the shooting position. The radius of the shooting position is very big and every spg has it's own sector. You get the order and shoot a few times and immediately disappear and hide again. All that happens whithin few minutes. Counter battery fire is a very big danger and could damage a battery very hard but normaly there isn't just one battery so we can triangulate their attack and start our own counter battery fire. Sorry for my poor English and greetings from a M109 commander of the Swiss military.

  • @ThatAnnoyingGuyOnTheInternet

    @ThatAnnoyingGuyOnTheInternet

    3 ай бұрын

    @@xDlol24 Cool, that makes sense. Assuming both you and the enemy have the same idea you described (fire and hide), would counter battery even make sense? Or would it be worth trying it "just in case"?

  • @xDlol24

    @xDlol24

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ThatAnnoyingGuyOnTheInternet well it depends on many factors, like what sort of artillery it is, what's their range, how fast can they opperate and is the risk worth it. So I can't give a clear answer.

  • @thiagobogli1834
    @thiagobogli1834 Жыл бұрын

    Hey, could you do a video about ERA and composite armor? When it started being used, why, advantages and others. Thanks a lot, really like the videos!

  • @RedWrenchFilms

    @RedWrenchFilms

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the idea!

  • @curiouscreation55
    @curiouscreation552 ай бұрын

    Funny, informative, entertaining with a smooth voice and good video production, finally a channel worth subscribing too

  • @rsfaeges5298
    @rsfaeges529811 ай бұрын

    I might be wrong, but believe Flak 88 counts as "direct fire" in its original use as anti-aircraft artillery--IF the in/direct distinction applies to AA use...🤔

  • @matusfekete6503

    @matusfekete6503

    4 ай бұрын

    @@volteer1332 I'd still count it as DIRECT fire. You aim at area on the sky which is in your direct line of sight.

  • @stefanmuller8934
    @stefanmuller8934 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. Would be cool too see you maybe covering the south african G6 rhino in the future. It's a very cool and unique spg

  • @vertigq5126
    @vertigq51263 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the explanation! Great video man

  • @dinsdalemontypiranha4349
    @dinsdalemontypiranha43499 ай бұрын

    Excellent! Thank you. I learned something new.

  • @righty5890
    @righty5890 Жыл бұрын

    I think you have the best non-french prononciation of the CAESAR, very good video 👍

  • @craigfitzpatrick4810
    @craigfitzpatrick4810 Жыл бұрын

    Another great video. Many thanks.

  • @newhonk
    @newhonk Жыл бұрын

    Always a good day when Red Wrench Films posts a new video

  • @stevepritchett6563
    @stevepritchett6563 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting, thank you

  • @theangrycheeto
    @theangrycheeto Жыл бұрын

    Please make more Ukraine war related content. It's very educational and entertaining!

  • @jager898
    @jager898 Жыл бұрын

    You could do a take about IFV's in Ukraine or in general, could be a fun video to watch

  • @raylast3873
    @raylast3873 Жыл бұрын

    Not sure if SPGs didn‘t come around at least as much due to the needs of the other arms during offensive operations rather than just problems the artillery faced. Traditional towed artillery performed extremely successfully in WWII and it was much cheaper than SPGs. But the necessities of mobile warfare meant that the infantry, and later also tanks, desperately needed a solution for mobile fire-support that towed artillery couldn‘t provide because it couldn‘t keep up with the rapid advances that became necessary. One solution was to try building smaller and smaller guns, but the Germans very early on hit upon assault guns as the only effective solution.

  • @ThePaladinGuy142
    @ThePaladinGuy142 Жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, I've worked on m109a6 paladins for about 5 years. If y'all have any questions about the platform within reason I'd be willing to answer. I know much more about the maintenance side than the operation side but it's interesting none the less

  • @BLEEN-lk3mj

    @BLEEN-lk3mj

    4 ай бұрын

    How is the shell trajectory calculated by the system? I'm currently building an SPG tank in a game but I'm not very sure what to calculate to fire from a significant distance. Are there also calculations for aiming the gun on high angles like a mortars?

  • @thatleo8573

    @thatleo8573

    4 ай бұрын

    Whats the maintenance like? Are there any parts prone to breaking? Whats the funniest thing you’ve seen while maintaining the m109?

  • @xDlol24

    @xDlol24

    3 ай бұрын

    In the Swiss M109 KAWEST it is possible to shoot direct with a scope. Is that Swiss thing but also on the paladins?

  • @polarbear3427
    @polarbear34278 ай бұрын

    Maybe add a little story about the artillery observer, who'se role is (was?) very important for pointing out the target and assess the damage, and at the same time was a very dangerous profession with an etimated life span of 7 minutes or so.

  • @wtco8883
    @wtco8883 Жыл бұрын

    Would be great to see a video and small Troop carriers like the Willy Jeep and it's descendants like the HMMWV and JLTV

  • @justinblin
    @justinblin Жыл бұрын

    I’m so glad he translated to football fields. How could I ever know what the other units mean? 😂

  • @uss-dh7909

    @uss-dh7909

    5 ай бұрын

    I understood miles perfectly. Football fields, what is that, 100 yards plus both end zones? How long is each end zone, are they even counted at all when defining a football field? Football fields use yards which is also another conversion I have to make, ugh!!!!!1

  • @user-ru4ix7lw7d

    @user-ru4ix7lw7d

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@uss-dh7909imagine meters

  • @randomnickify
    @randomnickify Жыл бұрын

    Flak88 is not an indirect weapon. It is direct antiaircraft and antitank.

  • @demanischaffer

    @demanischaffer

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@volteer1332that's not indirect fire If I have a rifle and I'm shooting a fast-moving man, it's not indirect fire because my sight is not directly at him Lobbing rounds up in the air with the goal of them coming back down and hitting someone is indirect fire

  • @matusfekete6503

    @matusfekete6503

    4 ай бұрын

    @@volteer1332 Flak88 in AA use is still direct fire, you aim at the spon on sky in your direct line of sight.

  • @LottoDub720

    @LottoDub720

    3 ай бұрын

    @@demanischafferyes you explained indirect fire which shouldn't be confused with indirect weapon. Direct fire weapons you can still shoot indirectly but that still makes them direct fire weapons because they're most effective when you have direct line of sight or physical sight of the target. But indirect weapons are weapons that you don't specifically need to see the target in order to destroy or cause damage. For example non artillery tanks are direct fire weapons and artillery tanks are indirect. Simpler terms is that direct and indirect fire weapons can both be fired directly or indirectly, but if it's effectiveness to contact or destroy a target is better directly or indirectly is what dertmines if it's one or the other. Or a simple anology would be guided missiles(direct weapon) and non guided missiles(indirect weapon)

  • @17-phanvunguyenkhoi52
    @17-phanvunguyenkhoi5211 ай бұрын

    Could you make a video about soviet tank destroyer, such as the 152s

  • @duckierwolf
    @duckierwolf4 ай бұрын

    Could you do one specificly on American SPG’s? Love to learn more about especially the WWII ones

  • @tishomingo4524
    @tishomingo4524 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @thorthetroodon9938
    @thorthetroodon99385 ай бұрын

    Ty i learned so much but isn't there any tank spg's?

  • @vunguyenxuanhoang7422
    @vunguyenxuanhoang7422 Жыл бұрын

    One interesting fact about the history of artillery is they are spread out into every corner of the Old World with the help of the conquest of the Mongol Empire. After capturing and adopting the new weapon, Mongolian brought it anywhere they go to the siege, from Euro, and the Middle East, to South East Asia. When the native dynasty get conquered or defeat the Mongolian,they quickly realize the cannon are a useful tool for siege and adopted it

  • @D0P1C3
    @D0P1C3 Жыл бұрын

    once again suggestion for future video comparison of Low Pressure 90 mm agains 25-30mm Autocannons what are pros and cons why would modern military force even use LP 90mm?

  • @thegizmolife9084
    @thegizmolife908410 ай бұрын

    I did not know the distance until you gave me the football field distance. Thank you

  • @asherheerema7422
    @asherheerema74226 ай бұрын

    i wasnt quite sure the range you were talking about until you explained in football fields, thanks for including that

  • @herbderbler1585
    @herbderbler15853 ай бұрын

    WWII German SPG names: BADASS WWII British SPG names: DASHING WWII USA SPG names: MMMMM

  • @Kar4ever3
    @Kar4ever34 ай бұрын

    Artillery. King of the battlefield. And now we even have ramjet ammunition, increasing range to 150 km. Slap it on a smart shell, and you got a 150 km "Fuck you in perticular" shell.

  • @TheGodshelper
    @TheGodshelper4 ай бұрын

    I just want to add that one of the olderst artillery weapons is technically the bow and arrow, at least when employed in large numbers :)

  • @SoSaboQueNadaSebo
    @SoSaboQueNadaSebo4 ай бұрын

    M109: 🤡👶 T92 Howitzer Motor Carriage: 👴😎💪🗿

  • @wolfsblumchenlp5226
    @wolfsblumchenlp5226 Жыл бұрын

    Real Nice

  • @Synchronizado
    @Synchronizado Жыл бұрын

    What is your RPM for these kind of videos?

  • @ONI_002
    @ONI_002 Жыл бұрын

    isnt every tank an SPG, but not every SPG a tank?

  • @ar0568

    @ar0568

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh fuck you right 😮🧠 💥

  • @richi7494
    @richi7494 Жыл бұрын

    Is the velocity of the shell slower when fired in a lower arc?

  • @RedWrenchFilms

    @RedWrenchFilms

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m not sure! I’d presume it was just fired last. I think the animation exaggerates the differences in elevation.

  • @vunguyenxuanhoang7422

    @vunguyenxuanhoang7422

    Жыл бұрын

    I think shell flights faster with flatter arc since travel distance is shorter and it takes less affect from gravity

  • @SoWhat1221

    @SoWhat1221

    4 ай бұрын

    Some (most?) artillery have adjustable charges (edit: adjustable charge is in fact necessary to do the time-on-target fire, like shown in the video), but if you're not doing ToT, unless you needed to aim a little higher to avoid hitting an obstacle, I'd imagine you'd just fire standard/full charge. With the same charge, the velocity is the same, but firing in a low arc, the shell will reach the target faster, since it's taking a more direct route.

  • @MrDaviyd
    @MrDaviyd Жыл бұрын

    Could you do a video on tank optics? Cant seem to find any good videos on it.

  • @RedWrenchFilms

    @RedWrenchFilms

    Жыл бұрын

    Really good idea David

  • @LottoDub720

    @LottoDub720

    3 ай бұрын

    Most things inside mostly all military vehicles are classified upon technical details

  • @MrDaviyd

    @MrDaviyd

    3 ай бұрын

    @@LottoDub720 Yeah that's unfortunate

  • @patrickbureau1402
    @patrickbureau14023 ай бұрын

    Mobility Philosophy - historically changed with the Atomic Age - a doctrine of dispersing assets to avoid offering large targets - military forces were expected to gather force upon targets than spread out to minimize counter attack from nukez !🇨🇦

  • @aidanvega9778
    @aidanvega9778 Жыл бұрын

    Is it bad that the football field conversion actually helped me visualize it better 😂

  • @ERIK-457
    @ERIK-457Ай бұрын

    4:38 Ey, that's not an autoloader, that's a mechanically assisted loading system An autoloader is fully automatic and fully mechanical, with no human intervention other than to press a button to select the munition type or unload and reload again. And an autocannon is like an autoloader, but an autocannon working almost like a machinegun while an autoloader working more similarly to a bolt action gun (some autocannons can be just really fast autoloaders when on really big guns but have the firerate of an autocannon and therefore be practically functional as one)

  • @bobskanal
    @bobskanal4 ай бұрын

    1:47 maybe I'm wrong, but since when is a "Flak" an indirect weapon? The "Flak" means "Flugabwehrkanone"= Anti-Aircraft-Gun. Wasn't it shot directly at planes?

  • @icetea8946
    @icetea8946 Жыл бұрын

    Would love if u can do a video on the S27 Pion and Malka that both Russia and Ukraine are using. Its a monsterous piece of artillery hardware

  • @Teh_moai
    @Teh_moai3 ай бұрын

    The bison is such a beautiful tank my goodness 😍

  • @tyger441
    @tyger4413 ай бұрын

    i've always wondered why most spgs resemble tanks. in the us the paladin is usualyy assigned to tank/bradley brigades. but stryker and light infantry brigades have towed artillery. why not have an spg on wheels like a stryker?

  • @williebrort
    @williebrort8 ай бұрын

    5:30 they also got the howitzers from the Netherlands. Probably counted then with the Germans?

  • @Electronzap
    @Electronzap Жыл бұрын

    Cool vehicles.

  • @gansior4744
    @gansior4744 Жыл бұрын

    lets be honest, Paladin is one of the sexiest SPG ever. Especially later versions with longer turrets and longer gun

  • @sleepdeep305
    @sleepdeep3058 ай бұрын

    My friend operates one of these vehicles, he's leaving for deployment in Poland here soon. Let's hope his services are not needed.

  • @joebidome1445
    @joebidome1445 Жыл бұрын

    Also tanks are pretty much used in indirect fire role

  • @yesseru
    @yesseru3 ай бұрын

    I love how artillery is just become missile yeeters at this point.

  • @ssuuss539
    @ssuuss5393 ай бұрын

    I heard a Lamborghini outside

  • @1guitarlover
    @1guitarlover2 күн бұрын

    Ground war is about artillery not about sophisticated missiles.

  • @dika_3521
    @dika_3521 Жыл бұрын

    Looks like a heavily upgraded Nashorn

  • @matthalo871
    @matthalo8719 ай бұрын

    Hey I understand the miles you really didn't need to add football fields to the mix.

  • @AverageSpaniard0505
    @AverageSpaniard0505 Жыл бұрын

    great content, keep up with it! edit: the ww2 germany flag at 3:52 might get you banned

  • @volteer1332

    @volteer1332

    8 ай бұрын

    It is in a historical context, and is vintage footage for educational purposes. I think there are known exceptions for very clearly historical appearances. (It did give me a knee jerk reaction too, don't worry) I would be more worried about the "Z" decals on the Ukraine tanks.

  • @tnttolleneuetipps9582
    @tnttolleneuetipps95823 ай бұрын

    In Germany we call them Haubitzen and I am dissatisfied after you didnt include the good old Panzerhaubitze 2000

  • @WOTArtyNoobs
    @WOTArtyNoobs Жыл бұрын

    I don't know how I missed this when it came out 4 weeks ago. Excellent explanation of SPGs. We are often the 'red-headed' child of World of Tanks. Everyone hates us because when we hit the enemy, they cannot fire back at us because they don't know where we are. That creates frustration and from that comes deep-seated animosity. Thanks again for explaining why we are important.

  • @LottoDub720
    @LottoDub7203 ай бұрын

    Me personally I call any vehicle with tracks/wheels, armor, crew, and a main gun that isn't a hand held or shoulder fired weapon(anything bigger than 50bmg) and is fired while the crew is still inside while protected by the vehicle, is a tank. Yes I know the names of technical or specialized vehicles but realistically.... it's still a tank and people who get offended by what you cakl something are just weird.

  • @kurt5490
    @kurt5490 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a fan of SPG's. It's what I usually play in WoT. But I have to admit the biggest disadvantage is that they are way more complex than towed artillery. When they are broken down they are useless. Where towed artillery just needs another tow vehicle.

  • @luigivercotti6410
    @luigivercotti6410 Жыл бұрын

    I mean at this point (M1299), why don't we replace the shells with regular ballistic missiles? Is it just a matter of cost and missile jamming/scrambling tech?

  • @volteer1332

    @volteer1332

    8 ай бұрын

    Cost and payload. Increasing the payload weight of a missile is exponentially more expensive than increasing the payload of a ballistic projectile. It is also possible to track the smoke/vapor trail of a propelled charge like a missile, or intercept it with C-RAM type automated anti missile and aircraft systems. You can't reliably shoot a falling bullet out of the sky.

  • @luigivercotti6410

    @luigivercotti6410

    8 ай бұрын

    @@volteer1332 Funny huh, how all the extra control one has on a missile somehow makes it _more_ predictable - I see what you're saying though, it's likely just a matter of size, shooting a missile with a bullet is hard enough, but good luck shooting a bullet with a bullet like that WW1 incident

  • @volteer1332

    @volteer1332

    8 ай бұрын

    @luigivercotti6410 prediction is predicated on being able to detect an object, and the heat signature on a missile is pretty noticeable. But size is the other big thing, all that extra space for the rocket fuel and the guidance computer and sensors makes it a bulkier target to hit.

  • @leneanderthalien

    @leneanderthalien

    4 ай бұрын

    Missiles cost 10x more than artillery shells…this is the main cause of

  • @fencserx9423
    @fencserx94233 ай бұрын

    Tanks are when you put a gun on a vehicle SPGs are when you put a vehicle on a gun

  • @karmdeez911
    @karmdeez9114 ай бұрын

    Short answer: Gun with wheel/track

  • @johanmetreus1268
    @johanmetreus12686 ай бұрын

    Sorry, by this video has the wrong take on SPGs. Firstly, there are self propelled guns for both direct (assault-, anti-tank and anti-air guns) and indirect fire (artillery). Secondly, the reason self-propelled artillery was invented wasn't at all avoiding counter battery fire, but to be able to keep pace with the mechanised formations, especially cross country. This is highlighted 4:13, since North-Vietnamese counter battery fire was almost non-existent during the Vietnam war, but there was a definite need to rapidly getting the artillery into firing position to support the mobile units.

  • @ingloriuspumpkinpie9367
    @ingloriuspumpkinpie9367 Жыл бұрын

    Great short vid, SPGs are often overshadowed by tanks even though they seem to have same or greater impact on Ukrainian battlefield. To be fair I am a bit of a shill for our Zuzana 2s and Czechoslovak SPGs in general.

  • @jr5925
    @jr59255 ай бұрын

    Armies must rename these pieces as Shoot-N-Scoot (SNS).

  • @Jaybee1612
    @Jaybee1612 Жыл бұрын

    This channel is going places! Sub now and be an early bird before 100k and 500k subs. The bloke has well presented vids and great info!

  • @RedWrenchFilms

    @RedWrenchFilms

    Жыл бұрын

    Hahah appreciate it Jacob!

  • @azatmingalimov

    @azatmingalimov

    7 ай бұрын

    It's going places, I'm sure those are not right places though. Channels based on bias are bound to become echo chambers of little value.

  • @hueytran9691
    @hueytran96914 ай бұрын

    So.... it's a howitzer with its own engine?

  • @hohenzollern6025
    @hohenzollern60257 ай бұрын

    Sorry, we dont use football fields as a system of distance measurement, thats more related to weight. Can you please translate that into a more usable distance measurement, like glasses of milk. That's the best way to find distance, "how many glasses of milk is it to get there?"

  • @LottoDub720

    @LottoDub720

    3 ай бұрын

    Football fields have a finite length though. If you used cups/glasses as a measurement it would be harder to conceptualize because he could be talking about literally any form/shape/size of cup/glass ever created

  • @crow2989
    @crow29893 ай бұрын

    Imagine getting a hit 6 times at once by the same vehicle. Bro

  • @MostlyPennyCat
    @MostlyPennyCat4 ай бұрын

    It's a gun. That propels itself.

  • @JeanLucCaptain
    @JeanLucCaptain3 ай бұрын

    it's a GUN...that is SELF-PROPELLED

  • @Bored_Kaga
    @Bored_Kaga Жыл бұрын

    Clearly we all know an SPG is Strict Parental Guidance...

  • @HolyNorthAmericanEmpire
    @HolyNorthAmericanEmpire5 ай бұрын

    While the 70km of the ERCA aren't bad, the 2S35 has 10km more range and a faster rate of fire.

  • @RedWrenchFilms

    @RedWrenchFilms

    5 ай бұрын

    Was just an example! The XM1155 can go out to 110km.

  • @HolyNorthAmericanEmpire

    @HolyNorthAmericanEmpire

    5 ай бұрын

    @@RedWrenchFilms Damn, haven't heard of that one. Just looked it up, pretty wild

  • @cameronlayman-sz9ou
    @cameronlayman-sz9ou4 ай бұрын

    I was 13B 20 years ago in Operation Iraqi Freedom, the M109A6 are most definitely not bulletproof... Lol

  • @diquadhumungersaur492
    @diquadhumungersaur492 Жыл бұрын

    SPG was the hamster owned,loosely, by the "young ones" (mostly Vyvyan. "rick you are a complete and utter bastard.." )and named after a certain "Special Patrol Group"..

  • @vincenzoverona7611
    @vincenzoverona7611 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video but such a shame you didn't cover Russian SPGs...

  • @RedWrenchFilms

    @RedWrenchFilms

    Жыл бұрын

    They didn’t really have any in World War Two. They use the Soviet style systems listed when I talk about Ukrainian SPGs.

  • @azatmingalimov

    @azatmingalimov

    7 ай бұрын

    @@RedWrenchFilms Not out of bias at all. Right?

  • @RedWrenchFilms

    @RedWrenchFilms

    7 ай бұрын

    @@azatmingalimov … which ones would you want me to talk about?

  • @lambdrey
    @lambdrey Жыл бұрын

    What do you call a "tank" that isn't fully covered?

  • @eymoose

    @eymoose

    Жыл бұрын

    Tub?

  • @lambdrey

    @lambdrey

    Жыл бұрын

    @@eymoose The kind of tank that was denied to be a tank in the video.

  • @robinbennett5994

    @robinbennett5994

    Жыл бұрын

    You might be thinking of 'tank destroyers'. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_destroyer

  • @boosterh1113

    @boosterh1113

    Жыл бұрын

    Depends on what it is actually doing. Tanks are fully armoured because they are expected to engage in a war of manoeuvre and be able to handle more or less anything they run into. They need full armour because they can reasonably expect to encounter everything from opposing tanks to lighter AFVs to artillery fire to infantry with portable AT weapons, from the front, sides, or behind, and they need at least a decent chance to survive any of it. So, what is your partially unarmoured vehicle actually doing, and why isn't it fully armoured? Is it killing other AFVs from ambush and/or combined arms defensive positions (relying on stealth, defensive fortifications, and first round kills to protect itself)? It is a tank destroyer. Does it accompany infantry/engineers on their attacks (relying on them to protect its vulnerable flanks & rear) and destroying fortifications, strongpoints, and the occasional AFV? It is an assault gun. Does it rapidly and/or stealthily advance ahead or to the flank of the main body, perhaps skirmishing with opposing scouts, but withdrawing in the face of serious opposition (trading armour for speed and smaller size)? It is a reconnaissance vehicle. Does it stay behind friendly lines, providing fire support, and ideally not becoming engaged itself (limiting the return on investment for armour)? It is a self propelled gun. If you look at very early tank warfare (WWI, Spanish Civil War), or at forces with very limited manufacturing capability (Daesh, Syrian Opposition), you can find some very primitive partially armoured "tanks," but otherwise, nobody designs tanks without full armour.

  • @lambdrey

    @lambdrey

    Жыл бұрын

    @@boosterh1113 I was thinking about the Marder III, which was oroginally the 38 (t), but it was equipped with a howitzer with an open armor.

  • @Mumbamumba
    @Mumbamumba Жыл бұрын

    Comment for the algorithm.

  • @savirianwinter1656
    @savirianwinter165611 ай бұрын

    Of course it's not a tank, its called snd Artillery piece.

  • @blackseasailing8672
    @blackseasailing8672 Жыл бұрын

    Don't forget about Soviet SPG used during WWII

  • @RedWrenchFilms

    @RedWrenchFilms

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha which ones! I couldn’t find anything concrete that wasn’t a tank destroyer, assault gun or prototype.

  • @blackseasailing8672

    @blackseasailing8672

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RedWrenchFilms ISU-85, ISU-122, ISU-152. They can be called tank destroyers but it doesn't make significant difference.

  • @azatmingalimov

    @azatmingalimov

    7 ай бұрын

    @@RedWrenchFilms So you don't even mention USSR at all. What a lame excuse.

  • @RedWrenchFilms

    @RedWrenchFilms

    7 ай бұрын

    @@azatmingalimov I mean - I literally do.

  • @wilhelmmeyer89
    @wilhelmmeyer893 ай бұрын

    This is a really nice ad for all arms industries and war. All warmongers can be happy about this video.

  • @RedWrenchFilms

    @RedWrenchFilms

    3 ай бұрын

    You clicked the video Wilhelm.

  • @wilhelmmeyer89

    @wilhelmmeyer89

    3 ай бұрын

    @@RedWrenchFilms I did not know its content. So what?

  • @abshekprasad
    @abshekprasad5 ай бұрын

    That joke explains 99.99% of Americans..

  • @Cell780
    @Cell7803 ай бұрын

    Yeah but why are they in 5.7???

  • @kanyesouth4261

    @kanyesouth4261

    2 ай бұрын

    SPG-s just aint very good in the game😅

  • @02suraditpengsaeng41
    @02suraditpengsaeng415 ай бұрын

    Ah yes WT : King of Battle It's work like tank even effective than fu*king junk of the tree XD

  • @Frogma985
    @Frogma985 Жыл бұрын

    TOUCHDOWWWWNNN

  • @the215sean
    @the215sean6 ай бұрын

    "Touchdown indeed" lmao 🇺🇸

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 Жыл бұрын

    Ok

  • @dudududu1926
    @dudududu1926 Жыл бұрын

    5:42 Ukrainian Logistic Offices: "Kill me"

  • @vunguyenxuanhoang7422

    @vunguyenxuanhoang7422

    Жыл бұрын

    At least most of them use same type of ammunition so they just need another caliber . If each of them using different caliber I guess it will be a huge mess

  • @prawinbashingamv.n5296
    @prawinbashingamv.n52966 ай бұрын

    Step 1: delete artillery

  • @02suraditpengsaeng41

    @02suraditpengsaeng41

    5 ай бұрын

    [INVIL] Chem_ : DELETED ARTILLERY

  • @Sm0lsky
    @Sm0lsky3 ай бұрын

    Talking about artillery and self propelled artillery from WWII and not even mentioning the ussr which have been the ones that fabricated the most number of pieces and developed the best doctrine...The american way..

  • @RedWrenchFilms

    @RedWrenchFilms

    3 ай бұрын

    The USSR did not use much self-propelled artillery, if any. It was not a large part of their “best doctrine”. And what are you talking about Americans for?

  • @lucianocampos9817
    @lucianocampos98173 ай бұрын

    The comment about Americans at the end was not necessary. It was a great video until then.

  • @definitionofsalt576

    @definitionofsalt576

    2 ай бұрын

    It's a joke lad, does it really matter?

  • @meesverhoef3955
    @meesverhoef39555 ай бұрын

    as i world of tanker i hate spgs

  • @andrybassam
    @andrybassam4 ай бұрын

    Her in Iraqi army We used it

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