Never forgive, never forget.

Isabel is absolutely right and no one will ever look at the inconvenient truth of Sweden.

@Bertrum123

7 ай бұрын

She thinks she knows everything a degree in english doesnt make you an expert in covig . Sweden had one of the worst death rates in europe .where do they get there ridiculouse ideas .the so called experts coming out of the woodwork putting in there two peneth in for there five minutes of fame

@hemlyns9916

7 ай бұрын

Sweden is irrelevant, because it has a small population spread widely throughout the nation.

@hemlyns9916

7 ай бұрын

She is wrong. The problem is not deaths, but the number of patients who had to be admitted to hospital for life-saving treatment.

@motogpnhmotogp7642

7 ай бұрын

The only thing she was right about is the threats

@desmondroberts6034

7 ай бұрын

@@hemlyns9916 Finally, some sense! A lot of people didn't pay attention in science lessons.

Isabel, once again, tells it like it is

@roberttucker805

7 ай бұрын

@@TOM-TOM-TOM you can talk!

@desmondroberts6034

7 ай бұрын

She's telling you what you want to hear!

@Sneezy563

7 ай бұрын

Her facial expression says it all.

I agree 100% with Isobel. Lockdowns were a terrible mistake.

@MrKeefy1967

7 ай бұрын

I disagree 100% with her and you.

Sweden didn’t lock down and it worked out far better for them.

@roberttucker805

7 ай бұрын

​@@TOM-TOM-TOMno it wasn't.

@roberttucker805

7 ай бұрын

@@TOM-TOM-TOM wrong. If that was the case the likes of whitty and van tam would be shouting it from the rooftops.

@paulneville7154

7 ай бұрын

Bs they did lock down and the unique path they took initially resulted in the highest death toll in Nordic countries

@darrenporter1850

7 ай бұрын

They wanted to not overwhelm the NHS at the start, something we could all agree on. But unfortunately they went nazi on us after

@Bertrum123

7 ай бұрын

​@@TOM-TOM-TOMthats true maybe this chap should look it up rather than listen to someone who promoted brexit .sweaden isnt as packed out as the uk. Sweden had one of the worst death rates in europe

How can we possibly have "under-funded" public services at the same time as the highest taxes in peacetime? It's nonsense.

@andrewsarchus6036

7 ай бұрын

Obviously enough because we're all paying for astronomical numbers of young third world men to enjoy totally free lives here.

@Firedancer100

7 ай бұрын

Because it’s a Ponzi scheme and we are dealing with a currency the thing we call Money has not been money since 1971 after Richard Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard. It’s now a currency Backed by nothing so they can just keep printing, but the more they print the less value it is that’s why

@22448824

7 ай бұрын

Underfunded my arse.

@madcapmikeymike4497

7 ай бұрын

Corrupt politicians dipping their dirty paws into the cookie jar

@AJ-hi9fd

7 ай бұрын

huge wastage in all public services not underfunded

“Doing their jobs”… what a bunch of crap. These scumbags ..need jail.

I think Chris Witty should be never given government ears again

@Sneezy563

7 ай бұрын

Charlie was pleased with their efforts - he gave them Knighthoods.

I’m no fan of Reagan, but when he said the most terrifying words in the English language are I’m from the government and here to help, he had a valid point.

Average age of death 84, sorry but to destroy this country because of a few whos lives may have been shortened by 6 months or until the next winter is ridiculous. A few people may disagree but the numbers are out there. Never forgive never forget.

@grahamsmith17466

7 ай бұрын

Bravo.

Now we're all paying the price for inflation which is not consumer driven, but the result of this disastrous strategy. What did the political class talent-vacuums expect to happen ffs?

@Northman_Roams

7 ай бұрын

All done on purpose. 1% want to remain rich and live in unicorn land while the rest of us fund that.

@AJ-hi9fd

7 ай бұрын

But huge swaths of the public went along with it and therefore endorsed what was being done. Those of us who vocally disagreed were shot down! Furlough was never going to be free, paid for by someone else. The government and its policies are funded by the tax payer ie you and me! The result inflation.

Everyone I know who didn't take the injection is still alive

@Sneezy563

7 ай бұрын

Yes, & they don't want to talk about all the excess deaths happening since.

They were running on Ego and were clueless

"FEAR, FEAR, FEAR" - NOTHING WRONG WITH HERD IMMUNITY - MESSAGE IS: DON'T TRUST THE GOVT, OPPOSITION PARTIES, OR THEIR ADVISORS - ONLY TRUST YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT & THOSE OF YOUR FAMILY

@grahamsmith17466

7 ай бұрын

Exactly 💯!! Especially if he had given vitamin D3, C and zinc to the elderly and the vulnerable, and also used hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin with zinc and other off patent drugs for early stage treatments!!!!

@johnwhitcher4761

7 ай бұрын

Covid was diffrent many people have had covid more than once Same with flue it mutates herd immunity does not work with these 2 illnesses.

And yet Van Tam now works for Moderna. And here's the twist, he had the job offered prior.

@Sneezy563

7 ай бұрын

And the 'unelected' has a huge investment in Moderna. We need asap to get the names & companies who benefited from the PPE contracts that we are now burning at high cost yet again to the taxpayers.

Isobal is so right on so many things it's hard to believe she isn't in politics, second thoughts maybe that's why she isn't.

@roberttucker805

7 ай бұрын

​@@TOM-TOM-TOMlocking healthy people down? What a load of nonsense. The damage lockdowns have done is a catastrophe. Kids not going to school, small businesses closed but big businesses still carried on making an absurd amount of money. Massive wealth transfer. Dancing nurses on tick tock. The BS goes on and on but even with all the evidence unfortunately some people still don't get it!

@helenandsophie100

7 ай бұрын

@@TOM-TOM-TOM…..well please explain Sweden? They didn’t lock down healthy people, only gave advice and per capita did far better than any of the countries who participated in this shocking intervention! So many lost loved ones anyway, lost jobs, businesses, sanity! You can’t honestly say that Britain in good shape after all this interference in our lives 😪

@roberttucker805

7 ай бұрын

@@TOM-TOM-TOM so you would fall for it again? Mug.

@roberttucker805

7 ай бұрын

@@TOM-TOM-TOM if anyone's guilty of ignorance I suggest you take a good look in the mirror because your feeble argument has been trashed over and over again and yet you still peddle it.

@IntoMotivate

7 ай бұрын

@@TOM-TOM-TOMwrong

Well said Isabel

GUILTY as sin! some sins will never be buried not even with the DEAD!!!

only problem is, Chris, we have a black swan. Belarus. Belarus took no action and, well, would you look at that, Belarus survived Covid in a better state than the UK did! Try using empirical evidence, if you want to be a real scientist.

@TheMishka11

7 ай бұрын

And didnt spend millions on nonsense

@grahamsmith17466

7 ай бұрын

Exactly 💯💯💯

The working class were told to go to work so not locked down, they were classed as essential workers and told to drive trucks to deliver goods to supermarkets, to work in warehouses to pick goods for home deliveries. So this was a lockdown for the better off and the chattering classes only and sod the serfs

@syddog44

7 ай бұрын

It was for privileged people in privileged countries .

@ThePitPony

7 ай бұрын

💯🎯 I'm a minimum wage security officer and worked in a hospital all the way through it,i realised immediately that it was completely exaggerated based on what i was seeing around me. I never got vaccinated despite incredible pressure from management and never got even a sniffle all the way through it largely because of my physical health through hard exercise and wholefoods diet since i was a child. What annoyed me most about it was i was expected to risk my health ( if looking through the establishment lense) daily for peanuts whilst better off people sat indoors on furlough but if i suggested that it was their piss poor underlying health ( self inflicted through poor lifestyle choices long term) i was called "selfish and arrogant" but was expected to take an unproven experimental shot to save better off lazy ,bone idle couch potatoes that can't stop eating junk food whilst they sat at home and continued to be lazy bone idle pieces of sh*t.

When they were talking about "the science" none of the media ever thought to ask what branch of science. As SAGE and SPI B (nudge unit) were composed of many psychologists, it was clear to me it was psychological warfare science.

@grahamsmith17466

7 ай бұрын

Precisely. We were subjected to military grade fear propaganda.

A big pot of whitewash

Of course they would argue it wasn't ridiculous. It was their plan. If they admit failure, they're the ones who have to take responsibility and we all know, those with power, and SHARES IN THE VACCINE COMPANIES don't want to admit their decisions benefited their stock options. Because that was what this really was about. MONEY. one of the largest redistributions of wealth in history.

@yvonnelashford2969

7 ай бұрын

And control.

@patrickfarrell4751

7 ай бұрын

Yep...this is a classic case of investigating yourself and finding you did nothing wrong!

@wokeybrokey8006

7 ай бұрын

Spot on

I visited hospital several times during the lockdowns, I never saw any evidence of the NHS being overwhelmed, in fact the corridors were empty. The reason I was there breathing difficulties nothing to do with Covid, in fact the day clinic for breathing difficulties was nearly empty, not rushed off their feet at all

@Eric-qm5xw

7 ай бұрын

I went in too..when my son had a ruptured ligament literally a week before the bs started. Went into hospital…empty ..completely empty.

@Eric-qm5xw

7 ай бұрын

@@TOM-TOM-TOM 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

@Eric-qm5xw

7 ай бұрын

@@TOM-TOM-TOM What’s the point ..your a sheep 🐑🤣😂🤣😂🤣

@roberttucker805

7 ай бұрын

​@@TOM-TOM-TOMstill wearing your mask?😂😂😂😂

@barbaraneville5036

7 ай бұрын

@@roberttucker805 think tom tom tom works for the Psyops department of the army

In another piece on YT Chris Whitty said that at the height of the pandemic more people died of causes other than covid than of covid. That's a damning indictment of the course that the government took: businesses lost, elderly people dying without their families at the end, people not being able to attend funerals, people sacked because they refused a jab which was never tested for impact on transmission of covid and elderly people terrified many months on of leaving their house. The only people who benefitted seem to be those on furlough, Michelle Mone, Matt Hancock's local publican and Dido Harding.

@dtoora

7 ай бұрын

He failed to mention that during the "crisis"

@cleopatra5682

7 ай бұрын

Yes he did I heard that too. That is when the Covid enquiry should of stopped immediately & a criminal investigation started!

Led by Donkeys

They keep forgetting, no they are bypassing the point that Sweden is the alternative option. They did much better than we have. Our main policy was save the NHS, obviously based on the current situation saving it then was merely a prolonging of the inevitable demise of a once great institution, but alas no more.

@grahamsmith17466

7 ай бұрын

​@@TOM-TOM-TOMYou are talking out of your backside, mate. Sweden didn't trash their kids' education, trash their economy, saddle it's citizens with enormous debts, break it's health service. Moreover, Sweden has the lowest death rates after three years in Europe.

@roberttucker805

7 ай бұрын

​@@grahamsmith17466 I think you're wasting your time with Tom. He's probably still wearing his mask like an obedient little 🐑

And there we have it.. polarity. Sweden is proving with time that its reaction was the best, not the route take by other nations including the UK. And yet the zealots that prevailed will not accept the real science.

@tonyjefferson3502

7 ай бұрын

florid and various other states that did not lock down, with no difference to state that did lock down

The lockdown loons still wont give in..the poor souls who died on their own without family and friends beside them should never ever be forgotten..lockdowns were insane..

Unfortunately Isabelle lost the argument the moment she said the first lockdown was the right thing to do. I argued at the time that the source of all individual rights is life and therefore, locking down violated those rights regardless of how many lives were saved by locking down. Individual rights pertain purely to the individual, not the group, not ‘the common good’ - we aren’t yet an authoritarian collectivist state and therefore individual rights have primacy over any collective utilitarian argument. Unfortunately for us, we are stuck with a nightmare of a socialist healthcare system which was the source of concern and the reason the individual was sidelined.

@roberttucker805

7 ай бұрын

​@@TOM-TOM-TOMwe have never been told to stay in our homes with a one hour a day exercise unless you're in prison.

@nockianlifter661

7 ай бұрын

@@TOM-TOM-TOM what do you mean by freedom ? My definition is freedom from the initiation of force, not freedom to do anything - I’m pointing that out because it’s a common equivocation. If you mean we have a mixed social system - half socialism, half capitalism-then clearly we do have an initiation of force by the state against its population, but lockdowns are an example of extended statism, that, even during the second world war, there were no such violations of individual rights.

@roberttucker805

7 ай бұрын

@@TOM-TOM-TOM lockdown is the sort of thing they do in China and other communist countries because they live under a dictatorship. Anyway the whole sorry business was encouraged by the modeling of a certain "prof" Ferguson, you know, the Muppet who f'ked up with the foot and mouth disease twenty years ago that devastated hundreds of farmers. Is that the same "prof" Ferguson who ignored his own advice to have a rendezvous with his married lover? Oh it's sad to see someone still falling for the 🐂💩

@nockianlifter661

7 ай бұрын

@@TOM-TOM-TOM Only because they have violated other peoples rights - initiation of force against otherwise peaceful people. Being temporarily asked to restrict your movement if you are a provable danger to others - in the case of Covid, being quarantined at home is an acceptable role of the state, but not being quarantined when you are healthy. You have to be careful with that phrase ‘benefit of others’. Individual rights hold each persons rights inviolate, so the reason you choose to act in any given situation is in recognition of other peoples rights. The danger of ‘of benefit to others’ is that some group can then decide that your sacrifice is of benefit to others. It’s important to recognise this distinction, because authoritarians throughout history have used the ‘common good’ claim to rid themselves of individual rights completely. We are getting close to that with Covid lockdowns and jab mandates.

@nockianlifter661

7 ай бұрын

@@TOM-TOM-TOM Yes, I made that clear did I not ? The Government has a role to force those who won’t quarantine to do so. A reckless transmission of infection would be another example - if it’s pre-meditated, then justice would demand a harsher punishment in the same way as manslaughter Vs murder.

What on earth is Vanessa Feltz on? And Adam Schwarz- just look at the data!

@James-gf9jl

7 ай бұрын

They just can't help themselves. Feltz is a vaccine zealot and they must recite the mantra, whatever contrary evidence emerges. We all know people like this.

@toadisonthemove

7 ай бұрын

A LOT OF DRS DEFENDED THE GOVT STATUS QUO BECAUSE THEY WERE COERCED INTO IT, OR FEARFUL OF BEING UNABLE TO PAY THEIR MORTGAGE. THE INDEPENDENT MEDICAL EVIDENCE ABOUT C19 VAXX HARMS HOWEVER IS ONLY VERY SLOWLY BEING ACTED ON BY DRS

That guys logic and argument falls apart rather quickly. The fact we discuss lockdowns as even an option after this fiasco is just really disturbing. In the US it won’t happen again, and if it does people will flee to states that aren’t locking down.

@fin1131

7 ай бұрын

He thinks the defective jabs were such a success, as hearings are being heard in court, and 17m paid out already.

@Logans3Run

7 ай бұрын

Exactly what people did by migrating to a State led by a Governor that wasn't interested or worried, about all the BS Covid hysteria and kept the State economy in great shape: Florida.

You all happily complied, now you all moan, look at yourselves first. You were tested for your obedience

Who made the money.... All we need to know...

Adam, another one drinking the government coolaid…

If the 'experts' have already pre-judged the outcome, what's the point of an enquiry?

The politicians made a mess of it but cheered on by the media : when is lockdown; make it soo er make it longer make it tougher

We didnt know the vaccines were to be as effective as they are😂😂😂😂😂.

@peterkelly9669

7 ай бұрын

I think it was the Queen of hearts that had to believe 10 impossible things before breakfast. 😂

Chris whitty should be sacked and totally discredited and put in another headlock.

what happened to all the nightingale hospitals ? i don't think they ever got used

@pauldavies7251

7 ай бұрын

I built 3 of them, The company I was working for got paid £5million to build them, They never opened & they got paid again to dismantle them. I worked in 3 different hospitals during covid & it was nothing like what the BBC news were saying each night

@syddog44

7 ай бұрын

They weren't hospitals, they were warehouses with beds and ventilators. There is an army warehouse somewhere full of unused overpriced ventilators. All fear porn to scare the public,and to make off with millions of pounds of public money which the govt is now taking off disabled people to pay back. Complete disgrace,I'm never forgiving or forgetting.

@calumroney7352

7 ай бұрын

​@@pauldavies7251exactly mate

I flew back into Britain after lockdown started, and was aghast at how full all my neighbours recycling bins were. It seemed my entire town tried to drink themselves to death. I got home, binned my duty free and never drank again. Living alone, lockdown was hard enough but it ended a few friends marriages.

Relating to herd Immunity, you have to define the severity of the problem and as we all know many were reported to have had so-called COVID-19 with little consequence so it was proven to not be a serious virus, Herd immunity did work for other countries and would have work for all but that would not have sold enough vaccines to keep the drug companies shareholders happy,

Isobel is great. Well i'm not a pandemic expert and not trying to claim have hindsight but with the standard of leading politicians and civil servants we could never rely on them to act responsibility and show common sense!!!

"A range of opinions" - really? Dr Mike Yeadon should've been involved, but I guess his views were (and are), too errr, 'inconvenient' to the narrative.

@James-gf9jl

7 ай бұрын

You'll notice that Schwartz wasted no time in politicising the issue. No doubt which side of the political spectrum he's from.

Isabel was the only one talking sense here yes in fact lots of places never locked down and their death rate per million were lower but no one is allowed to say that it seems.

If you ruin thousands of people's lives.. you will receive threats.

54million reasons why witty should go down

Vanessa Feltz is still coughing into her mic damaging our ear drums, ruining the interviews, very unprofessional, I can’t believe these super new studios do not have a mic mute option.

If you look at the excess death graphs for Europe you will find that the deaths only happened in five countries namely France, Belgium, Italy, Spain and England, and they also happened in synchronicity with the WHO declaring a so called pandemic, so unless the virus was issued with a passport and refused to cross borders which is epidemiologically impossible and don't forget this virus travelled 5,000 miles from China unheeded (so they say) so the deaths that happened in those five countries were caused by the hospital procedures that were carried out on them, I believe it was either Spain or Italy that were actually bragging about putting two people on one ventilator, and then you wonder why they died, as Dr Mike Yeadon as consistently said Whitty and Vallance are a pair of liars.

Isabel the voice of conscience as always

The Cassandra Crossing being shown throughout the panademic is all i need to know.

How many long COVID cases are due to the jabs ...

Evil evil evil man

Did that happen in Sweden.

And yet letting it spread is exactly what happened in South Africa that led to the weakening of the virus and led us out of the pandemic.

@rewdwarf123

7 ай бұрын

The Omicron variant.

So, "The Science" was based on the subjective opinions of "The Experts". Better to rely on yourself for decisions around your health. This is the very kernel of informed consent.

I guess that Adam Schwarz is was and still gainfully employed! I'm with Isabel on the WHOLE subject of lockdown.

Do we lock down for a flu epidemic? SARS/COVID, was as serious as that. People die of viral infections, that is a fact of life. The average age of people dying from SARS was over the age of life expectancy.

Spineless jelly fish

Sweden and Belarus. If you know, you know.

Mr Van Tamm now works for Moderna . Funny how that works isn’t it .

Isabel nails it once again

Let's not forget what trauma has yet to come from the side effects of the 'You Know What'. This is not just about the tragedies of what has fallen behind us. What is hiding in the shadows of the future as a result of these 'You Know What'.

Isabel is 100% right. Herd immunity does work and by shutting everyone away and wearing masks it reduced people’s immunity. As an elderly woman I ignored every single rule and restrictions, never jabbed, along with millions of others and majority of our friends and family, we are all healthy. The excess deaths and people dying since their boosters needs investigation but it won’t happen.

And completely ignore IO's Sweden comparison by rabbiting on about less people getting COVID. IO is right!

*Immunity via infection, has always been far superior to 'vaccines'; Sweden is a fine example here.* *In addition CV-19 had a mortality rate of approximately .30%--less than one third of one percent.* *[Human beings are not animals, the term 'herd immunity', does not correctly apply; the correct description is 'mass immunity'].*

Loved Jonathan Van Tam, his football ⚽️ analysis was awesome 😎

False dichotomy. The avg age of death: TWO YEARS ABOVE NORMAL LIFE EXPECTANCY. When people don't get sick... they are actually more vulnerable, not less.

In most British homes there are a max of two generations,parents and children

Interesting how they skipped over and ignored the Sweden' point Isobel made.

Herd immunity was apparently ridiculous yet ultimately that's exactly where we ended up. We could have saved £400bn and a whole lot of collateral damage by not locking down.

If you believe these guys you'll believe anything

Listen to this soy boy…

From the start of the SARS/Corona virus release, there were two aspects that alarmed me. One, epidemiologists were arguing about the treatment and ferocity. Secondly, I did not know of one single person who died from SARS, or anyone who knew anyone who died of actual SARS. Also, to add, The release of the SARS virus happened in 2019. By the time we heard about it in 2020 herd immunity had already been reached. In fact the 2003 release gave us immunity. Whitty and valance denied this reality. They should be in prison.

What Van Tam is saying is, We didn't know what we were doing. As for protecting the vulnerable who would that be?

You prioritize life... by living it.

If "they" hadn't have locked down everyone would be moaning how irresponsible that was, .instead of moaning about how we should not have locked down. . Dammed if they did and dammed if they didn't.

Does Adam Schwarz work for the BBC? He lies like he does.

Would those so opposed to the lockdowns feel the same if the virus mortality was highest in young people or children

Thank you Venessa.

Sweden says otherwise.🤷?

Oakshott such a tuneful songbird 😄

Well said isobel

It equates to the pro--digital theory of the paper--free office.-- It worked out on paper !! The reality is it generates more paper than ever !!

how are these people in charge of us .

Sadly a lot of people still feel vulnerable now, masks still dotted here and there. Lots of people have been permanently mentally scarred, it’s sad. I’ve had one cold after another for the past 12 months, as have lots of people. I wonder if lockdowns compromised our immune systems?

Sweden didn't lock down and where better for it

I am very grateful to Jonathan van dam , because I am so stupid and illiterate that I need everything explained in football terminology so I can understand what he is trying to convey!!!!!!!!!, very annoying.

With the Swedish response as reference, along with other relevant factors (ie: their distinct lack of interest in immune boosting vitamins, along with quinolines, amongst other known, relatively cheap, anti viral, anti inflammatory medicines), they were simply negligent leaning heavily past these factors into sustained lockdowns.

Never again!!

Ivor Cummins used the official euro mo mo data during COVID to track the _excess_ deaths by country. Not sure if the data is still presented in that form today. Obviously excess deaths need to be used, rather than deaths, to factor in population curves for aging etc As I remember it Sweden was discounted during 2020 because it had more excess deaths. However as the consequences of policies have unwound, upto today, Sweden has suffered significantly less _excess_ deaths than *any* European country that _mandated_ lockdown. Sweden simply followed WHO guidance, which was to encourage, rather than mandate, responsible behaviour

Stop talking Feltz and listen to the answers to the question you asked!

What that FW received a knighthood?

Blimey, Oakeshott and Talk TV has no shame whatsoever. They'll have Lawrence Fox and Gary Glitter co-hosting a chat show next.

Adam is clueless as to the facts.

I hate to tell Vanessa but we are bags of water full of germs and viruses and we need to meet other bags of water to swap germs etc to stay healthy!

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