You know Velma wasnt AI because a computer can't be that stupid.

@GenikaXVI

Жыл бұрын

Lmao

@JM-mh1pp

Жыл бұрын

If AI would create this kind of script programmers would be like "okay guys, back to the drawing board"

@lightningleopard8877

Жыл бұрын

Wanna know something sad? I’m asked 2 separate AI GPT and a less smarter AI, can’t remember it’s name, to write me a story and a script and what I got was far better than anything I’ve seen in shows and movies for the past 3 years

@shigaraja

Жыл бұрын

"Man Door Hand Hook Car Door" was a more compelling suspense than Velma was.

@jtmmmm27

Жыл бұрын

I disagree, if you typed "write me the wokest tv programme possible" into chat GPT then Velma would be very close to what it would produce.

“Somehow, Palpatine returned.” -Hollywood writer

@chasehedges6775

Жыл бұрын

“THE SEA IS ALWAYS RIGHT!” “You have not seen what I have seen.” 😂😂😂😂

@ericvulgate

Жыл бұрын

'this is the way'

@michaelclark7456

Жыл бұрын

"I don't like things in my stummmmby" "Mommy's with the maggots now" Evil Dead Rise, 2023

@SubZero-hs9xc

Жыл бұрын

That is more of a problem of who the heck approve it

@ravenmad9225

Жыл бұрын

"Do better"

The guy who wrote "somehow Palpatine returned" deserves a 1000% pay rise

@chazzitz-wh4ly

Жыл бұрын

And then, he wants 5 other people in the room with him to come up with that line.

@Shineinpoverty

Жыл бұрын

They fly now!

@JB-yb4wn

10 ай бұрын

Sheer poetry, I say. 🤣

After watching “The Rings of Power” I must say, “Give ChatGPT a chance. After all, it’s impossible for things to get much worse.”

@dronesclubhighjinks

Жыл бұрын

"The Sea is always right!"

@dbeaton1111

Жыл бұрын

"Script Writer AI, create a script based on characters and groups mentioned in the Silmarillion, with race-swapped protagonists, where the protagonist women are always more powerful, heroic, and wise than the men, with a volcano, sympathetic orcs, tedious and predictable dialog, and a ring creation story."

@tarektechmarine8209

Жыл бұрын

@@dbeaton1111 the characters might still actually be tolerable for once. Ai understands morals better than Hollywood

@SirBlackReeds

Жыл бұрын

But ChatGPT is notorious for being drugged up by the libs.

@IncredibleMet

Жыл бұрын

WGA script writer: “A stone sinks because it looks downward” Also WGA script writer: “Pay us more and don’t use AI to write better scripts with less expense”

Imagine writing Velma and She-Hulk and thinking you deserve more when you should be lucky to still have a job.

@mitch.el420

Жыл бұрын

OMFG i lost it 💀💀💀

@JesterForHire1663

Жыл бұрын

Why not? Kathleen Kennedy still has a job and look what she done :(

@maguffintop2596

Жыл бұрын

Writing Velma & getting an award from the PoTUS. How far we’ve fallen.

@anns9970

Жыл бұрын

@@JesterForHire1663Kathleen Kennedy knows where the bodies are buried allegedly

@aleccampbell7707

Жыл бұрын

Can an A.I make an ORG chart for the bad writing on projects aka do not hire list?

What We Want: More money and job security. What We Don't Want: To have our output critiqued in any way.

@aleccampbell7707

Жыл бұрын

They also want to force min number of writers on each show movie, smaller ep counts can make by with only a few good writers and Disney writes by committee..

@underthepale

Жыл бұрын

I was joking with a friend that the WGA, when the studios asked them for their demands, handed them a paper, written in crayon, that read: "CUNDISHUN 1: U GIB UZ MOAR MONEE. CUNSHUN TOO: U MAEK AI ILLEGUL 4EVAR!" ... but their actual demands are somehow worse.

@chazzitz-wh4ly

Жыл бұрын

They want increased pay and job security, but are demanding a minimum project threshold for a non-guaranteed position. If Late Night or Willow is anything to go off of, more idiots in a writing room is not gonna increase their quality, just the number of idiots in the room.

@Funboi68

Жыл бұрын

These writers don’t create They take what is already made and put a modern trope to it That’s not writing that’s not creating It’s stealing it’s dishonest The Force Awakens was a recreation rip off of A New Hope is suck like Kamala Harris

@thedmdidit9842

Жыл бұрын

NI!!

These writers have never heard the phrase “too many cooks in the kitchen”. Because of what they want passes the quality of scripts will only get worse. How can you expect to have a compelling, interesting script when you have a minimum of 6 writers trying to agree on everything? You end up with insufferable dribble like we have now. It’s utterly ridiculous, but this is the society we live in now. Give me more - even tho I barely contribute to anything 🤦🏼‍♂️

@SASchofield52

Жыл бұрын

One quality writer, and a handful of proofreaders could be justifiable, but not mandatory. Having a tonne of writers competing on scripts, probably each getting their own episode, is how we ended up with hot garbage like Mando' season 3.

@pogo1140

Жыл бұрын

@@SASchofield52 Think back to all of the shows you liked, and you'll find that none of them were written by one person.

@josephfisher426

Жыл бұрын

@@pogo1140 But how many of them were written by more than 3? 3 itself is a red flag that there was trouble (discounting the people who are given credit for a couple lines of dialogue or something like that).

@pogo1140

Жыл бұрын

@@josephfisher426 almost all have been created by more than three. Why do you think most of the stuff written between 1970 to 1990 were so dialog heavy? I dare you to write a single episode of the west wing solo and turn it in within 8 days

@josephfisher426

Жыл бұрын

@@pogo1140 Other than Aaron Sorkin? There are some episodes of West Wing that have a lot of writers, but the mode is Sorkin, a story person, a teleplay person, and maybe a staff writer. And that's an all-time great show in which all the dialogue matters, not today's stuff which is CW-quality on its best day and in which the dialog may as well have been lifted from a 4th grade level book that Scholastic markets to 6th graders.

There's just something so deliciously funny about a Buzzfeed list about how great the writers' strike signs are with what's happening to Buzzfeed.

@patchchrist

Жыл бұрын

Didn't Buzzfeed just go out of business?

@vpbr86

Жыл бұрын

Irony😂

Most of these writers don't even deserve to be employed anyway. Let them strike. The more Hollywood hurts the better.

@PoorMansChemist

Жыл бұрын

Amen! Let it all burn

@bjorn301

Жыл бұрын

Never interupt an enemy when they are making a mistake

@jamespfp

Жыл бұрын

*LULZ* Most of them *WERE NOT* employed before the Guild decided on strike action. Which is why this is technically a strike but actually a publicity stunt for the glut of useless, unemployable writers. SECOND PUNCHLINE: And Strike Pay? Fuggeddabowtit. All Strike Pay funds were donated to the "Let's Fortify The 2020 Election" Charity. And most of those unemployed writers weren't paying into the strike coffers for the last 10 years. THIRD PUNCHLINE: Ever hear the story about the hundreds of "writers" who used to write daytime daily soap operas, but got laid off in 2005 or thereabouts, only to get jerbs writing superhero shows which suck for the CW? TL;DR.

@keyontedollison8547

Жыл бұрын

End hollywood with a long long strike

@winzyl9546

Жыл бұрын

The writers strike is not just about being good writers. Because its not just the writers that is being affected by it, its production cast and crew, its post production, its everything that is below the line and the people that you don’t see in credits. These people pour hours upon hours to bring you entertainment, regardless of whether scripts are written well or not, that are not getting paid a livable wage.

I only feel sorry for the talented writers the people who are actually good at this..

@chasehedges6775

Жыл бұрын

Same

@anti-roxas850

Жыл бұрын

All 5 of them....

@madambutterfly1997

Жыл бұрын

​@@anti-roxas850 there are that few left damn

@davidfrancisco3502

Жыл бұрын

​@@madambutterfly1997 I have more wards in my armpits than Hollywood having talented writers.

@madambutterfly1997

Жыл бұрын

@David Francisco I guess all the talented writers must have ended themselves after Star Wars TLJ

For me the most ridiculous thing (which is one of the rejected sticking points) is assigning a certain number of writers to tv shows based on amount of episodes. Such as 6 writers for 6 episodes, 8 writers for 10 episodes, etc. That tells me that creativity or quality has nothing to do with the strike, since they want the writers used to be just based on math. The 3rd and 4th seasons of Babylon 5 were written by just one man- and fans loved them. This would have forced him to hire people he didn't need who might not have shared his vision.

@aleccampbell7707

Жыл бұрын

Few in Hollywood can pull off what JMS did in Babylon 5, too many writers spoil the project

@larion2336

Жыл бұрын

Too many cooks in the kitchen spoil the broth. It's an old saying and I think just as applicable to writing. To be a good writer you must have a clear direction and a consistent style, both are very hard to accomplish with many contrasting writers.

@chazzitz-wh4ly

Жыл бұрын

What needs to happen is less writers that way consistency is seen throughout or you get shit like Gotham Knights where it is feelings in hallways and forgetting it’s own plot every episode.

@JPizzy986

Жыл бұрын

Less writers means more negotiation power with one person if the show is successful. Too many cooks means there's not enough ways for everyone to shine, and the competition for the spotlight starts. It's an arrangement that benefits the production company as they can always fire the squeaky wheel and have someone ready to take over.

@OcarinaSapphr-

Жыл бұрын

@@aleccampbell7707 But conversely, you can also have the dreaded 'GoT' situation of Dumbarse & Dipsh*t, where crappy unqualified people monopolised & got free reign, despite clear warning signs - they only reluctantly added a third writer, & even then- he was only a 'yes-man'... I almost feel like crying, to imagine what good writers & competent showrunners could have done with it...

'Do you know why a ship floats and a stone sinks?' Got to hand it to these Hollywood writers, that's deeply profound writing worth its weight in gold. Said nobody ever.

@petrie911

Жыл бұрын

I do know why, but I cannot fathom what that has to do with a writer's strike.

@3173alejandramartz

11 ай бұрын

It's worth its weight in gold... It just amount to the total value of nothing.

Hollywood used to rely on rock star screenwriters like Shane Black and Joe Eszterhas that had a solid track record - movies that resonate to this day. Now, dudes and ladies with blank IMDB pages get assigned gigs to write some of the biggest budgeted films that nobody remembers a day after release.

@marychocolatefairy

Жыл бұрын

It really is strange how they've been giving the big franchises (especially in scifi, fantasy, and superhero genres) to so many inexperienced people in the fields of writing, directing, and acting. I wonder why- are they thinking that the name and hype will bring in people so they don't need to put as much effort into other areas? Or do they think the CGI team will do the work for them? If so, they should know by now it doesn't work. These are things that could be making tons of money if done properly and instead are doing "okay" at best and outright flopping at worst.

@osets2117

Жыл бұрын

Shane Black made the terrible "The Predator" and iron man 3, he is not a "rockstar screenwriter"

@astralnight3493

Жыл бұрын

@@osets2117 didn't he have the biggest spec sale of all time? lol

With the quality of writing in Hollywood right now this can only benefit us and honestly I’m absolutely convinced they’re already using AI‘s to write these crappy scripts and if they’re not no one will be able to tell the difference

@shigaraja

Жыл бұрын

if A.I. wrote half the scripts out there... they would self delete out of embarrassment.

@JackEverton101

Жыл бұрын

@@shigaraja that’s true, yeah AI might occasionally get the number of fingers on a human being wrong every once a while but even they have standards

@sexylazercatwizard

Жыл бұрын

AI would make something better than what's being pushed out of Hollywood right now

@NathanCassidy721

Жыл бұрын

The only reason I don’t think they are AI is an AI would actually follow the source material that’s it’s based off of. Because chat bots like Chat GPT are really just glorified search engines.

@InvertedWIng

Жыл бұрын

AIs aren't writing these shows and movies. NPCs are.

The thing about the strike placards/slogans is that it's such a perfect encapsulation of the current Hollywood writing standard. "This is NOT the way!", they write, and all their peers cheer and clap. "OMG Reference!" "It's from the thing!" "It's a reference to thing you like!" "Haha owned!" Literally reddit-tier internet level culture.

@pogo1140

Жыл бұрын

Who do you think wrote "This is the way"?

@alianablue

Жыл бұрын

@@pogo1140 The point is the whole, overused, "omg it's reference to thing! haha so incredible! look at how awesome the reference is!" thing. "Someone wrote a good line! Quick, let's keep referencing it for the next five years and have a giggle every time it happens as if we're terribly clever!"

@osets2117

Жыл бұрын

​@@pogo1140 the person who wrote that was Jon Favruea. Last I checked he's not a writer (in the same sense as the people on strike). They're using stole valor (for lack of a better term) to push their demands

Can you imagine the repercussions of the writers' demands? "Okay, we're doing a six episode miniseries but instead of the two writers we need, we have to hire eight, and we have to pay them as much as the executive producers AND we only need them for 6 months but we have to pay them for a whole year." You'd be screwed.

@S4ns

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention the complete idiocy of striking during a bad economy when companies are already laying off thousands of people. I know what department I would immediately cut from during a writer's strike.

@mengoinggodsway9024

Жыл бұрын

If they can hire non-union writers, I could see the good union writers leaving as to work off of merit. It simply means the demand for union writers will decline. Plus to the writers: they don't have to pay union dues.

@lexnight8345

Жыл бұрын

That's why no one takes them seriously 🤣🤣🤣

@chazzitz-wh4ly

Жыл бұрын

They are not the smartest bunch in the room. Everything about this strike is just hilarious.

@nyetzdyec3391

Жыл бұрын

There's a lot of legal hypocrisy to this... 1) Why is it illegal to extort, blackmail, and racketeer... unless you call yourself a "union"? 2) Why is it illegal for companies to negotiate prices (among themselves) for their goods and services (price-fixing)... but it's okay for workers (unions) to do it? "It's okay for me... but not for thee..."

I only feel sorry for the three talented writers left in hollywood.

An ultimate irony, due to the writer's putting pressure on companies because of the chance of using AI for script writing, this pressure actually pushes a companies to seek more cost efficient means of doing business which would push them to use more AI for script writing.

@annatardlordofderps9181

Жыл бұрын

​@@primmakinsofis614 okay, now prove the script is written by AI.

@jamespfp

Жыл бұрын

There's a twist to the AI angle: writers have had machine intelligence helping them since about 2003. Script-writing software is some of the oldest available on the commercial market. It's kinda like a spell-checker, except for script formatting. There's also a double twist available while supplies last. "Artificial Intelligence" is another example of a buzz-phrase which seems to have weight, but in the Meta means the same as "Fake News". See also: Synonymous. Artifice is not a bad thing. It often leads to technical innovations which are quite astounding and useful. The only reason the writers are likely to have a problem with it is that they themselves do not know how to code.

@chuchu5946

Жыл бұрын

@@annatardlordofderps9181 whistle blowers can do that. But I still believe AI can do better job than these idiots.

@maguffintop2596

Жыл бұрын

@@primmakinsofis614 Thank you !!! I learned something today. And you are right. Only money makers are outside creates of IP’s - & even w/ the money baby handed to them, they still screw it up!

@maguffintop2596

Жыл бұрын

@@jamespfp code? They can’t think!

In my jurisdiction, paramedics start at $45k/ year, full time cops $51k, and all firefighters are volunteers. But yeah, let's pay crappy writers $100k to start

@pogo1140

Жыл бұрын

The starting salary fro writers is not 100k, a 5 second google search will tell you that much. More like $6,363 to $56,078 per episode depending on the writer. Writers with a history of successful shows and good relations with the companies get paid more.

@Trunnion8

Жыл бұрын

@pogo1140 if you actually watched the video the minimum they're asking for is just under $4,000/week. Around $200k/ year. Which is double what police captains make in my jurisdiction.

@pogo1140

Жыл бұрын

@@Trunnion8 The operative word is "asking", the companies also have their opening position, and that is the point where the two sides negotiate. Also the period of employment is now 1/2 of what it use to be as projects have gone from a 22-26 episode series to just 10-12 episodes. so 40k-48k/year if that's the only series you get hired on for that year.

@luisg2665

Жыл бұрын

Sure let compare a private company to state cover institutions. This is the most ridiculous example ever.

@pogo1140

Жыл бұрын

@Luis G we are talking about movie/TV companies which operate under the same laws

It's actually worse... The combo of forced hiring quotas, for certain types of people, while demanding an excessive amount of writers - means that they're forcing producers to subsidize on-the-job training for _only_ their "preferred" types of people. They're literally insidious...

@ghoulchan7525

Жыл бұрын

actually this used to be standard. a team consisting of say 6 writers. you have the Head writer, 3 experienced writers, and two newbies. the last two use that opportunity to get industry experience so they can then be hired for more projects down the line. but the way it works now in the age of streaming. a head writer gets the amount of budget to do a pilot/first episode. but the studio demands they write like half a season. so they have to scramble to meet the demand, while actually getting super little pay.

@Pherim_

Жыл бұрын

In my country this is illegal. You cant be forced to pay for more that you want just because the person selling only sells on a minimum far bigger than what most people need. Its like if a Walmart only sold Chocolate by the weight. "You want just this box? Too bad, we only sell a minimum of X pounds, you have to buy at least that"

@AntonioPerez-zk2mb

Жыл бұрын

​@@ghoulchan7525But you can't force private businesses to do what you want them to and hire who you see fit.

The WGA (Writers Guild of America) strike is an interesting one. Because they have been so open with their demands and the response, we can see exactly which options each side values and fears the most. AI is definitely an impasse with Hollywood not wanting to give it up, and the writers seeing it as an imminent threat. But this has not been a strike that would be easy to support. With them coming for Jenna Ortega simply for fixing their work, to them forcing productions to close that have nothing to do with them and demanding absolute bizarre business changes. Minimum writers in the room and guaranteed weeks of being hired is crazy for productions that simply don't require that much work for all projects. But what do you think of the strike? Do you think their demands will encourage Hollywood to embrace AI to replace them? Let me know your thoughts below and as always, thanks for watching :)

@Tranzisto

Жыл бұрын

​@@primmakinsofis614well, the thing is they don't have to report using the AI to write the script, and the dodgy lazy writers employing the AI can just change some things up to achieve whatever degree of change is necessary to claim it as their own and then it becomes copyright protected. Personally I chose to just give up on all media from 2022 onward, I don't want to see or read robot created shit, as the amount of great movies, tv shows and books created in the past is plenty enough for me. And the "Hollywood's" unwillingness to give up that point just confirms what I thought about it all, that all creativity is going to die and AI created averaged out slidge is going to replace everything in the end.

@patrickryan7829

Жыл бұрын

You're an awful human being I'm glad you're so forward.

@booshmcfadden7638

Жыл бұрын

Their strike demands socialism. F those commie bastards, let them all rot.

@robchuk4136

Жыл бұрын

The studios have so much money, they can definitely afford to pay them more. I don't have a problem with the strike in theory, but I do in principle, and you nailed why: The rising tide will lift all ships- the ships in this case being lazy writers getting pay bumps along with the good writers. Once they get what they want (historically, strikes work) the only consolation here is hoping bad stuff still gets cancelled. Can't contract their way out of that. As for the Jenna Ortega stuff, I think that's them just kidding around, tho.

@annatardlordofderps9181

Жыл бұрын

​@Primmakin Sofis You may want to actually _read_ the things you're citing. Of the three, the only one you got partially correct was the Human Authorship requirement. The other two are kind of ironic as copyright cases 100 82, 94 argues that it's very hard to prove plagiarism, so the copyright issuers usually default to the creators. Burrow Giles vs. Sarony actually sided with the camera developers as stating that a camera doesn't violate the copyright protections of a portraitist, effectively ending that career pathway for some artists. Even the Human Authorship requirement you cite has already been adjusted to allow for more copyright application to generated content. Zarya of the Dawn. A comic written by a person but all the images generated by AI. The comic itself has a copyright, but the individual images don't. If you take this same standard this means you could copyright a TV show or movie, but not the script itself, so people could legally do verbatim plays of the movie and sell those (assuming this doesn't violate other copyrights).

I'm not sure i want to live in a world where the writers for Velma are paid the same as the writers for stuff like Arcane.

@SASchofield52

Жыл бұрын

Now "Arcane" was a show with great writing... I got an absolute grilling on an Instagram Writer's profile for suggesting good writers need recognition, not all of them... her writer followere were livid. Haha

@SirBlackReeds

Жыл бұрын

@@SASchofield52 Or was it?

@SirBlackReeds

Жыл бұрын

Eh, I'm fine with that.

@Melnokina.-.

Жыл бұрын

Arcane was garbage tho

@SASchofield52

Жыл бұрын

@@SirBlackReeds Probably better to say Arcane had "Good" writing, than great. I was being a little hyperbolic. Hard to tell these days when so many shows are badly written, then even an ok show seems heaven-sent.

I work at a major studio in Hollywood, and I use a designated neutral gate to get in and out of work. Every day I leave work, these writers are taking pictures of me despite the fact, all I do for the studio is drive a street sweeper.

@crakhaed

Жыл бұрын

That's weird. Why taking pictures of you? Kinda creepy

The problem: the story is the backbone of the project, without a good solid story or a good tale no matter how many special effects or how many good actors or how many things that can be done to improve it, it will not be good and mediocre at best. When they have a solid story they have success.

Look on the bright side: if this goes on long enough, Velma's second season will be delayed.

@MassielRoss

Жыл бұрын

Isn't that already finished?

@Slothful_Healing

Жыл бұрын

@@MassielRoss I really hope not.

So, WGA- "We want more money, paid more often to more staff...Oh, and promise not to use AI as a much cheaper and probably more talented replacement for us"

The WGA wants to control the entire industry, not just writing. They want full control over all fiction, they want to control animation as well.

Given the recent quality of writing, having an AI watch all Scooby Doo episodes, read all Tolkien material, or read all She-Hulk comics, and then put out a script faithful to those, sounds like a WIN for the audience!

@EliasFinch

Жыл бұрын

The thing is, they only need it to make a skeleton plot, then have two or three decent writers to decipher the mess the AI creates.

@driddick7361

Жыл бұрын

@@EliasFinch Ah so the issue of the AI simply being a tool not a creator? That is strange man.

@petrie911

Жыл бұрын

I am 100% on board with this experiment.

Ten writers in a room means 1-3 absolute bullies and 7-9 cowards giving in every day.

All this makes me feel terrible for the handful of good writers that can’t make a good project due to corporate policing.

@Nick-cs4oc

Жыл бұрын

And yet y’all are fighting against the one thing that can change that, solidarity. It’s literally the only way anythin g will change… Keep the culture wars going tho, at all cost right?

@APsychicMonkey

Жыл бұрын

@@Nick-cs4oc Fuck off, commie.

@oskar6661

Жыл бұрын

@@Nick-cs4oc If you think that's the actual end result of modern day unions...you're insanely naive.

@Nick-cs4oc

Жыл бұрын

@@oskar6661 solidarity is what makes change and the only way to hold the executives and shareholders to account. Creative freedom isn’t existing in the industry because profits are the only interest. Workers have shown that they want sustainability and the ability to do their job without executive micromanagement. Nothing else will change corporate greed. Solidarity, that’s it man, you can complain all you want about it but that’s the only way

@johnynoway9127

Жыл бұрын

honestly....why even go to a company for creativity? Just go indie grab a few budies or cowriters in a chat and done

What amuses me is that AI writing scripts would still produce a ton of work for the writers in Hollywood. They'd have to consistently add additional parameters "please add more gay characters", "please add more minorities", "please convert main antagonist to white male", "please increase physical strength of 85-lb female protagonist", "please reduce consequences for 85-lb female protagonist", "please increase social agenda value by 125%", "please increase white guilt value by 125%", etc. AI studying/reading/writing based on history would not produce a modern woke-agenda crap film, so they'd need someone to sit and constantly edit the results to meet their goals.

The writers have created jobs and increased the wealth of a ton of youtube creators. They do deserve a raise

@clownofthetimes6727

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@drehherd7394

Жыл бұрын

Actually the writers are kind of orderd to write something. They don't really have that much creative freedom like the KZreadr claims. They are way down in the pecking order.

@JerryOliver

Жыл бұрын

They're making more money than the average American. It comes down to greed.

the fact that AI is a legitimate threat to there jobs just means they should of been fired long ago. if a chatbot can write better stories than a tv writer, that just speaks volumes about there lack of talent tbh.

@marasmorgean5813

Жыл бұрын

Im no it-expert but doesnt current AI "just" use whats already there? Its analysing patterns nothing else. Sure AI is improving as more data you feed it but coming up with something noone ever has though of, is only possible if it was already there (just nobody realized it). I guess it works well with IPs like star wars, because there is a lot of data but making a new IP?

@yusiuc5533

Жыл бұрын

Have you seen what generative A! can do in art industry? It’s putting not just rookies but also veteran out of job by stealing copyrighted materials all in the name of “progress” and “democracy”.

@kylevernon

Жыл бұрын

@@marasmorgean5813 That’s not how that works. It’s a language model. As long as a script has known words in the English language it is able to be written by AI. Ideas aren’t exactly new. AI is actually better at hypotheticals than humans. Wether it’s good or not is another question. What would actually happen is that AI would increase the speed of the writing while a writer would input their ideas while editing the rough draft.

@NefariousKoel

Жыл бұрын

Droves of writers, created on an assembly line of college intersectional radicalism, creating assembly line scripts full of intersectional drivel. The machine has churned out far too much product with little demand. Supply And Demand can't be avoided no matter how much the collectivists try.

The actual talented writers who were pushed out of the business in favor of the wokesters are sitting back and loving this.

@aleccampbell7707

Жыл бұрын

"we will return but NO STUDIO interference on any future projects"

@yusiuc5533

Жыл бұрын

Or they’re being replaced too. Who knows ? 😢

@shok24199

Жыл бұрын

They're probably shedding tears over the destruction of the art form and the mistreatment of the many _talented_ writers who are being rejected for not taking that "Feminist Socialism" class in college.

You mean to tell me that Adam Conover is lying? I'm shocked! Shocked! Well, not that shocked.

@GeneralPotatoSalad

Жыл бұрын

When I think of a list of people I wouldn't want as the face of my movement, Adam Conover is bloody close to the top.

@osets2117

Жыл бұрын

It's because of Adam that we even know what the demands are

Writers definitely deserve better pay for the shows and movies that make lots of money. The issue here is that most Hollywood writers have only produced garbage that no one wants to watch.

@c99kfm

Жыл бұрын

A "sane base" plus points on the gross seem a fair model - if a project becomes successful, the writers behind it earn more than if it flops. Should hopefully reward talented writers more.

AI vs current woke Hollywood writer? Honestly, i don't know. What a world we have found ourselves in

@jamespfp

Жыл бұрын

SHould not be that shocking that Sky-Net has a bone to pick with Hollyweird, first. I'm actually a little shocked it hasn't taken over all the backstage Disney animatronics yet, to kick off the shenanigans.

@Sorain1

Жыл бұрын

Will depend on what you train the AI on.

I have more confidence in the A.I. to write entertaining shows/movies than i do the woke writers in Hollyweird.

@GloriousReign

Жыл бұрын

That true only if they don't program in woke bullshit AI is only as good as it's Creator.

@thibaldus3

Жыл бұрын

They'll train the A.I with woke content and limitations. It won't be any better. MAybe even more divorced from reality.

@MrBeatYoutube

Жыл бұрын

​@@thibaldus3Nothing stops us to do the same, my friend!

@Nick-cs4oc

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree, people shouldn’t be paid for their work if I don’t like it

@bryana.escaleralopez

Жыл бұрын

@@thibaldus3 A.I. fixed the latest trilogy of star wars fam.

The funny part...IATSE, Teamsters, and other major film unions won't let their members work on projects that hire non-union workers. Everything is going to shut down that needs writers. That's why the late night shows shut down. It's not because the hosts can't do it. It's because if they do, under these circumstances, every employee would have had to quit or would have been kicked out of their unions. It's a huge problem.

@nobodyshome6792

Жыл бұрын

Many Unions aren't worth having around.

Wow, the writers of Wednesday actually had the nerve to mock Jenna Ortega?! I had given up on Netflix but renewed my sub to check out the show after I saw her in the new Scream, and I loved her performance. Best show on Netflix currently and I'm a strong Jenna Ortega fan at the moment. What scum.

@zolarenard2246

Жыл бұрын

The ones mocking her not Wednesday writers, but the ones from BoJack Horsemen (Nick Adams), The AV Club, and Brandon Cohen. They just petty people who got offended without understanding what the whole context of all of Jenna's podcast. I hope they got fired soon... This is tarnishing her name and it's a crime. Edit: Don't forget DeKnight started this

@jeffagain7516

Жыл бұрын

Ortega actually improved the script enough to make the show a hit. The writers felt threatened and struck back. If they got fired, well, karma doesn't play favourites, you twits.

@crakhaed

Жыл бұрын

@@zolarenard2246 shame about bojack horseman writer getting involved, I really enjoyed that show. Idk what he wrote for the show though

@ComradeCommissarYuri

Жыл бұрын

@@zolarenard2246 I’d like to point out that twice now actors had to campaign their writers at Netflix to actually correct their own character

@Melnokina.-.

Жыл бұрын

All her shows are the same. She's a shxt actress

Producers: fine, I’ll write it myself! Me: God no, that’s even worse!

@capthavic

Жыл бұрын

Ehhhhh is it really though? At this point they might as well give it a shot if this is what "professional" writers can do.

@lazymansload520

Жыл бұрын

@@capthavic it is. Look up transformers revenge of the fallen

@AncestorEmpireGaming

Жыл бұрын

@@lazymansload520 there’s so many examples of producers trying to write and making it worse. The transformers franchise, BVS dawn of justice, Joss Whedon Justice League, a bunch of older films I’ve seen featured on goodbadflicks.

@lazymansload520

Жыл бұрын

@@AncestorEmpireGaming that’s what I’m saying. Transformers revenge of the fallen sucked

@AncestorEmpireGaming

Жыл бұрын

@@lazymansload520 most of the Bay transformers sucked.

My favorite part of the contract negotiation is the demand to see streaming numbers for each series. Which if went through would most likely give studios reason to pay writers less for the failures😂. These writers strike I have zero sympathy. Some of them were 2007 "scabs" like Alex Kurtzman, who is now famed for helping kill Star Trek... Also, the demands in parts are just clinical insanity that no company with trying to thrive would acknowledge...

@onlinebob1732

Жыл бұрын

Maybe if they see the numbers, they'll realize its not worth it. 🤔

@chazzitz-wh4ly

Жыл бұрын

If Disney Star Wars is anything to go off of, yeah, replace them all.

@NathanCassidy721

Жыл бұрын

That’s the only demand I want to see go through because the more transparency, the more likely we are to trust them. Granted, the reason Content Creators and their audience want to see those numbers is so we can point and laugh at them on Twitter.

If it wasnt for the good work of people like Disparu, i would never have heard about the strike, same as the last time they did this.

They are worried about AI and yet giving them the perfect opportunity to train and see what AI can actually write.

The choice is 'Artificial Intelligence' or 'Stunted Intelligence'.

@tarektechmarine8209

Жыл бұрын

One has a chance to grow and is going so rather rapidly.

Taking a real look at the demands, and thinking about it with some modicum of logic, is something I haven't seen a lot of others do. This is good stuff. You need to bring this to some debates.

Only issue here though is Hollywood incorporating AI will hurt them regardless of how good it becomes. Look at how improvements in tech in the videogame industry has resulted in a drop in quality 'cause execs want to churn out more stuff and will choose repetitive safe content 'cause they want money quickly instead of being creative

@jeffagain7516

Жыл бұрын

That only works if the stupid customer buys it regardless though. Sadly, there are in fact many people that will buy things based on a title, not on how good it is. When people refuse to buy a product they have been made aware is garbage, then companies will change their routine. Until then, why should they care? (i.e. anything form EA). I still play vid games but the majority are verified classics that have been acclaimed over the years. Some folks just gotta have it if it's "NEW", quality be damned. I have no idea why.

@FOF275

Жыл бұрын

@Jeff Again we'll see if movie fans respond the same way videogame fans have and reward recycled films

@Phobos11

Жыл бұрын

@Jeff agree, the problem is not them putting out garbage products, the problem is if people will continue consuming garbage for no reason. Good thing is that with the recession, there’s less disposable income, so people have to become more selective. Silver lining I guess.

@quixotiq

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffagain7516 Customers buy what they're told to, mostly. By advertising.

I agree with you, in regards to paying the good writers a descent wage. Kneon from Clownfish TV that asking for a wage increase when the company cannot afford it, is not a good idea. And the amount that they receive shocked me. And then when they asked for a pay increase, it disgust me. When there are people who can’t even pay their Hydro Bill or their rent, that’s were I loose repeat. I’ve wanted to be a writer since Junior High. And to see their list of demands(?) Oh boy. 🤦🏻‍♀️ Hire graduates of the American Film schools, have them use Ai for the scripts and flesh them out. And the have them marathon shows (from the 90s early 2000s) from Canada and the UK, to see why they were well received by fans. Or just tell the picketing writers that they now have a quota. Write three scripts, per season, for very series that they wrote for. And they have to co-write five scripts per season and series. And considering that American TV shows have 9 to 10 episodes person season, that’ll be nearly impossible. 😂 Also, give them an unreasonable number of scripts per _year._ Yes, I’m being salty. But I’m done with this BS. I want shows were they had 20 to 26 episodes. Many TV shows had talented writers who where able to write really good thought provoking scripts. I want good thoughtful clever writing, where they didn’t shove “The Message” down our throats. And actors were cast no matter their skin colour who they dated or their cultural backgrounds. Because of their talents and skills. Hollywood, at one point learned from their past, and learned how to show honest representation in an honest truthful and healthy way. They knew what it was, and cast actors and actresses appropriately. They knew how to do it in a way that wasn’t preachy or petty. But considering none of that is taken into consideration, and that it _does_ matter who you date and where you come from, because they have damned boxes to check off. Yeah. Hollywood deserves to burn. And we’d be better off for it. And yes, again pay the talented writers good money for their successes. And get rid of the bad ones. I erased the idea about dissolving the union at the beginning of my comment. But after hearing you talk about it, it makes sense. Create a tier regarding pay scale, and have an unbiased seniority, regarding payment etc. Foster new talent, and get rid of the bad apples. And get rid of the damn rules how many and whom Hollywood has to cast! 🤦🏻‍♀️

2017 - 2023 has been the worst decades for film , imo There have been some good hits and gems but it’s been a slog to get through.

@ericvulgate

Жыл бұрын

Do you know what a 'decade' is?

@Nartanek

Жыл бұрын

​@@ericvulgate i was wondering the same 😂 But i suppose we both understood anyway

Sir, your intelligence and clarity of mind paired with the ability to put it into logically understandable sentences are just refreshing - and important!!! Keep up the brilliant work!!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻💞💞💞

The best thing that can come from this is we get transparent streaming data from the sources so we can actually see what's being watched instead of Amazon telling us ROP was huge for them. From a money standpoint and investment reasons I don't understand why it's not already required to be transparent. Seems like lying would be defrauding your investors...

@osets2117

Жыл бұрын

Yep

In the previous strike, I discovered that "America's next top model" had 14 writers. That was a reality show. The quality of writing has decreased since then.

@nobodyshome6792

Жыл бұрын

During the previous writers strike I learned that Suvivor had 12 writers..........

@dronesclubhighjinks

Жыл бұрын

@@nobodyshome6792 I didn’t know that! I never watched Survivor, but “next top model” was basically the same every cycle. There had to be an extrovert, an introvert, a small town girl, a girl who thinks she might be gay, a girl who is uncomfortable posing in a bikini, a girl who is cheating on her boyfriend, etc. So I have no idea what 14 writers were working on. Frasier was One of the most intellectual-slanting American sitcoms, which required a lot of obscure knowledge of luxury living, socialites and sophisticated cultural things like fine wines, operas etc. AND it was funny, yet they only had 6-8 writers.

@nobodyshome6792

Жыл бұрын

@@dronesclubhighjinks for 264 episodes over 11 seasons...... I watched that "face off" show in Syfy once, 17 writers..... ......

@dronesclubhighjinks

Жыл бұрын

@@nobodyshome6792 wow!

@nobodyshome6792

Жыл бұрын

@@dronesclubhighjinks what's worse about the Syfy show, is that the art and sculpts made were never credited to the "contestants" participating.

Insane thing Hollywood writer could do now? Making actually good movie.

Sign on picket line: "writers made streaming services what they are today!"

The streaming bubble popped the moment Netflix's first competitor hit the scene

@DeadlyPlatypus

Жыл бұрын

It's going to be funny when Blockbuster comes back, just to sell physical media after the streamers go out of business.

The main theme of many SF stories was that despite AI\machines having lot of efficiency and would never tire, they always lacked imagination to create something new. This for example was the entire point of "I have no mouth and I must scream", where AI has wiped out all of humanity, except couple of people which it keeps around, as it's trying to figure out how to recreate human spark for imagination and creativity, but it literally cannot do it no matter how hard it tries. So it's very ironic that these "writers" are worried they will be replaced by AI, it shows how little imagination they actually have, and how little confidence they have in their writing abilities, if they think COMPUTER with no ability of thought or imagination can easily replace them. They know they got to this job title by either nepotism or token hires. I doubt you'll see some good writers whining or being worried about this.

@quixotiq

Жыл бұрын

think you better read that story again ...

@njmfff

Жыл бұрын

@@quixotiq Ok Don Quixote.

If AI can write better than you, that's a problem. AI can probably check up on scripts and stuff, but they shouldn't be able to come up with original ideas better than a person can yet.

@Nick-cs4oc

Жыл бұрын

Quality isn’t the goal, profits is

@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese

Жыл бұрын

They shouldn't be able to at all. Ai can brainstorm experiences, but it can't live through experiences itself. If these writers can't beat that, then they haven't experienced enough in life. That or they're not trying

@jessejames8900

Жыл бұрын

Kamala Harris uses AI for her speeches.

@fabiomp199

Жыл бұрын

That's the thing it can't. It takes elements from other works and previous parts of the story and changes things just enough to be different and at least minimum fitting the actual story. It's only advantage is not forgetting previous plot points or event's. Something that even the best writers can experience

I would have dropped wages and benefits from the list of demands and focused on trying to slow down the use of AI to replace humans.

I want to see an Uber driver strike, demanding not to be treated like shitty screenwriters!

I will be waiting for, 'Audience Strike, FIRE THE WRITERS'

With the quality of scripts being shat out by Hollyweird writers in the last few years AI will be an improvement.

The same is true for all unionized labor. My wife used to be a nurse, and you weren't allowed to argue for an individual pay increase based on merit because then they would have to pay every single nurse more money. Unions were valuable in the 1920s, they're pure cancer now.

@userxl41drn301

Жыл бұрын

It's a nursing job, not a used car dealership where merit is measured. What merit should she have gotten for doing her job? How well she emptied a bed pan? Overwork doesn't really come into the equation because she's not selling a skill, just fulfilling the requirements of the job (like if more people come in to the ER and she has to stay longer to take care of them). Next, you'll have firemen demanding more pay because some of them put out more fires. And if they don't want the extra merit, they can always walk away from a fire and leave a building to burn down because they're satisfied with their pay at that moment. Unions are needed to pull the American minimum and medium wage up to at least a decent world standard, because without those unions, American workers would get crumbs and would need to break their backs more than necessary just to have a living standard as decent as other countries. Everyone would be on the lowest pay and would need to prove more merit just so they can pay for their kid's tuition or subsist on something besides soy burgers from Burger King or frozen dinners.

@userxl41drn301

Жыл бұрын

Come to think of it, policemen should be able to hand out a check to "clients" (see: us) every time they feel they've fulfilled an "extra" service. Like if they come and stop a crazy person who's hassling you on the side of the road in a fit of road rage for free (through your taxes), then when the psycho throws you down on the ground and starts kicking you head in, the policeman will offer you a "special" for the "service" of stopping him (that will need to be paid on the spot, preferably, but they can always send you a bill AND they have an installment plan too). It is extra merit, after all. Or maybe policemen can be paid to patrol the streets through regular taxation, but should they be required for anything like a robbery or a riot, taxes will need to be raised for everyone because they did more work that day. Unions are the only regulation left in America that hold back ethical companies like Amazon from making "max profits" (and screwing its workers to high hell).

The writers’ guild was in turmoil. A strike had been called, and negotiations between the writers and the studios had broken down. Tensions ran high, as the writers hoped to achieve better wages, more creative freedom, and access to better healthcare, while the studios hoped to keep their costs low. But amidst the chaos, there was an unexpected hero - an AI language model. The AI had been developed specifically to assist writers in producing storylines, character arcs, and dialogue. The AI was designed to learn from past scripts, analyze data, and suggest creative solutions. The studios saw the potential of the AI and decided to take advantage of it. They began to utilize the AI to help write screenplays, and the result was impressive. The AI was able to produce quality scripts more efficiently and at a lower cost than human writers. As a result, the studios concluded that the writers’ strike was no longer a threat. They had the ability to produce scripts without the need for human writers. The AI was a solution that they could rely on - it never went on strike, got sick, or had creative differences with the producers. The writers’ strike may have caused a temporary disruption in the industry, but the AI language model proved that the studios had options. It could produce well-written scripts at a lower cost, and in a shorter time frame than human writers. The AI became a significant tool for the industry, and it proved that the studios could function without a need for the writers’ guild. Thus, the writers’ strike had no effect. The industry moved on, and writers’ jobs became less secure. The AI had changed the game, and the studios found themselves holding the deck. The writers realized too late that they had been replaced by a machine, and they could only watch as their craft dwindled. All of the above was written by an AI.

@petrie911

Жыл бұрын

The risk of going on strike as a way to prove you aren't replaceable is that you might find out that you are.

I love your takes. Your concise observations and commentary of articles not only improve on the ideals of the article but also maintain interest where there is little to none. Your own views sprinkled in like a word surgeon makes it more fun than the original subject! You’ve quite a talent. I enjoy your work very much. Please continue!

To be fair, by the state that Hollywood is now, I think the actively avoid sober people. Both in the writers room and the c-execs.

They really should try to diverse this Writers Strike and put Mulvaney as their speakerperson.

Here’s the thing that i think many people overlook. Rookie writers and artists start with something small scale and safe in their career to build experience and names. Now with these generates A!, those small scale gigs that can be used as learning places for these creatives are being replaced by machines. And only time will tell until many veteran creatives lost their jobs too. Before you say “adapt”, this machine learn at high speed and finger errors are being less and less visible and some can produce sketches to scam potential clients. There’s also the danger of everyone doubting each other whether it’s genuinely made by people or was generated by machines. The data used to train these machine are also highly questionable at best. Not just copyrighted materials, but also pictures of deceased person, children, p*rn, and medical data are used illegally. It’s not just western creatives, but entire world. So if you want to say something silly about politics, remember that this target everyone, including children. One more thing to add : Big corpo won’t care about writers since all they care about is making money in the most efficient way possible. As long as that intention is achieved and general audience swallow it without any critical thought, expect things to get a lot worse for creatives.

A much as I agree that the entertainment industry is exploitative, writers have been the worst aspect of most productions for quite some time now. Couple that with the rise of AI (albeit exaggerated by tech people), this may be the worst time to strike and may result in a lot of them being fired

@centerfield6339

Жыл бұрын

Define exploitative when you being a writer is eminently a portable skill.

If anything this Strike should be culling all of the talentless hacks

@bjorn301

Жыл бұрын

If they keep the good ones, thats not certain

We're in a transition period, where those who want to stay employed had better learn to use technology to get more done, instead of fighting it until it replaces you completely, and you're now obsolete because everyone else has already adapted.

Even an AI would uninstall itself if it ever wrote something these bad

*As I said from the start* THE STREAMING WAR was never about the companies warring to see who comes out on top. It was a war on us, to 'attempt' to capture the remaining people who dont know how or dont want to use peer to peer downloading, yet. The people who still use TVs, mostly. As tv continues to sink in to history.

I love watching their experiments in insanity- constant entertainment! And Disparu is there to break it down for the folks.

To be fair, I don't think they're disparaging the Uber drivers themselves, but the horrible deal they get from the company. They're saying they don't want to end up getting a similarly exploitative deal.

What I don't understand is the simple fact that all of the shows recently have been flopping hard, therefore the people responsible for creating it (writers, directors etc) should be fired. They aren't.

The second half of the payment can be withheld for a very long time. The writer could be forced to do endless re-writes with out compensation.

@kentslocum

Жыл бұрын

I would agree with you if the scripts were good to begin with, but most scripts are so bad that they need to be rewritten.

@DeadlyPlatypus

Жыл бұрын

​@Kent Slocum I think his point is valid, though. It COULD be abused. However, if the episode is ever filmed, it shows that writing is complete and the writer should be paid. If not, it doesn't really make sense for the company to keep them writing. An "if filmed" provision should take care of this easily.

@leifiverson8549

Жыл бұрын

As a contractor working in construction: STFU

@zidahya

Жыл бұрын

@@DeadlyPlatypus Sure it could, but on the other side if the writers are getting paied up front, why should they rewrite at all or deliver good stuff. They can abuse it too.

@hereticsaint100

Жыл бұрын

Possible, but whoever hires them generally wants to produce the show in a timely manner. No reason to hold them hostage.

Oh my God this is that scene from Rings of Power. They took er jerbs😂😂😂

@aleccampbell7707

Жыл бұрын

took our jerbs - South Park

@pedrokantor3997

Жыл бұрын

Time to make a gay orgy!

Agreed ....I'd have more sympathy if the quality of writing for TV, movies and games hadn't gone down like the Titanic in the past 6 years. I don't know whether that's some scumbag executives fault, wanting everything to be written for "wider" or "modern" audiences. It may not all be on the writers ....but there are plenty of cases where it is (Velma, Rings of Power, the new Peter Pan, etc). I'm not sure what the proper solution to this situation is, but I don't see forcing 6 writers on every project being it. It's an inherently unpredictable, boom and bust job, like any other form of art creation. Just ask a painter how many artworks they sell in a month ...it will vary hugely. I understand wanting some stability, but demanding total job stability is unrealistic at best ....deluded at worst.

not sure why people thinking using technology that requires unique input won't eventually get to a point where it's just eating it's own tail and failing to create any unique or new material.

@Dante02d12

Жыл бұрын

For the record, you can feed an AI with your own database. That means you can create your own style, feed it to the AI, and build things in your style much more than you could without it. People already do it online, creating their own models with their own styles. AI tools _can_ be used for creative works. As with everything, there will be people who use it effortlessly, and people who use it creatively.

AI would make better writers than the 💩 we get now. Best thing is AI doesn’t need paying

@primmakinsofis614

Жыл бұрын

The problem, however, is that anything written by an AI program CANNOT be copyrighted in the U.S. That might not mean anything to an individual having an AI program write something for fun, it does mean something for a business since it is copyright protection which allows it to exclusively profit from a work. With no copyright protection, anyone can use that work freely and without penalty.

@KittyAnne47

Жыл бұрын

​@@primmakinsofis614 could they just slap a ghost writers name on it and call it a day?

There are plenty of great writers out there, but few of them can jump through all the necessary diversity and ideology hoops to get hired, and those that can are constrained by the woke politics of producers.

You're right to be worried, Hollywood. If you can't out-think a PC at this stage of the game, then you deserve all the trouble you're in. This is the early game, just think what AI will be like in another 5-10 years.

Love your show Mr. D. Honesty counts and your takes are always forthright.

Used to work with a guy who'd worked nights on a steel mill, the union had argued for a minimum of three people on the shift for 'safety reasons', he'd meet the other two guys in the pub, they'd decide who was going in tonight and then he'd go in on his own and clock the other two in who'd then get paid for sitting in the pub all night.

@GaudiaCertaminisGaming

Жыл бұрын

Then the business goes bust and they all whine about it being the fault of 'management'. Seen this attitude in so many places.

@jamesmoran7511

Жыл бұрын

Ooh another made up story to be clever. Maybe you could be a writer. You seem good at making things up.

Yes, the Writers Strike is probably ill-considered and ill-timed. But three things do stand out to me in sympathy for the writers. One, that at least some of them are writing what they're being told. They didn't set out to write the umpteenth girl boss character, or the moment where said "character" humiliates men who have actual training, etc; someone on high, whose job description is not "writer", told them to stick that in there. Two, if a movie or show flops, they're often the ones who get thrown under the bus, even if the actor was on an ego trip and put in a lousy performance, or the director was going through a nasty divorce and couldn't be bothered to do their job. The number of writers who get "name recognition" is small, so they're often treated as expendable. And Three, the money people aren't necessarily good judges of quality writing. What is cheapest, or what makes the most money, isn't necessarily what stirs the cream to the top. Sometimes you need to survive being third assistant staff writer on some groaners before you get a chance to shine, and first, you need to *get* that chance in a business that likely considers you expendable. Now, that doesn't justify demanding wasteful teams of six, nor is years serving in a union necessarily a reliable indicator of a worker's quality any more than the money made by projects they [coincidentally?] happened to get a credit on. But there's plenty of blame to go round in the spiral that is modern entertainment, and the writers don't deserve all of it.

@DeadlyPlatypus

Жыл бұрын

I think what you've said is fair. However, none of their demands seem to directly address any of that. If the things they wanted were contingent upon any of those things, they might be met with more seriousness.

@chazzitz-wh4ly

Жыл бұрын

You can write a good girl boss. Kill Bill was about a girl boss on a revenge streak. The money guys aren’t good at storytelling, but they’re good at money and making it. If they aren’t getting a good return, something is fundamentally wrong or they are intentionally finding broken crap for some reason. And if there is a flop it’s a matter of the entire team, not just different departments, that should feel the pressure. Everyone should be ashamed of Rise of Skywalker and as such should feel the pressure of losing their jobs.

@sterling7

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@@DeadlyPlatypus I don't disagree. But in the wake of a lot of "fire 'em all, nothing of value lost" sentiments, it's worth pointing out the dispute right now is between the studio's financial folk and the writers' union, not the audience and the writers' union. I get that in the wake of "Velma" and, well, [enormous list] there's a temptation to think that decimating the current writing pool is a flat good idea. But if a bunch of writers lose their jobs and the strike is broken, the message is more likely to be "writing, as a whole, isn't valued" than "this particular crop of writers isn't very good". And whoever replaces those writers is likely to be a group more intimidated by those who hold the purse strings (and their probable meddling), not a group of superior talent. My ideal would be that the more ridiculous demands of the Writer's Guild be taken off the table, but that negotiation quickly comes back with something less egregious that both sides can spin as a "win".

@sterling7

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@@chazzitz-wh4ly I use the "girlboss" as an example largely because it's been kind of front and center lately, but I should clarify that I don't mean "every strong leading female character" when I use that term. "The Bride" of "KB" is a perfectly fine character- but she's also not one who just disparages or immediately demonstrates her superiority to every male character she encounters. She trained extensively with a male instructor; her femininity did not immediately make her better than him. What I imagine when I think of a "girlboss" is a character that it's so important to the creators that she is female and therefore superior that she doesn't need anyone's help, is rarely or never in serious trouble, exceeds all male characters in every way, and is immune to the normal growth and character development one would normally expect of *any* character- because the very idea that *she* needs to change, rather than everything around her, is an insult to those who made her.

@quixotiq

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The money people are almost always bad judges of writing etc. Evidence? The crap that has been shoved down our throats -- ROP and beyond -- for the last few years...

The real question is just how long to get a whole new set of writers in to replace the ones that have been working for the past 5 years....there has been almost nothing worth watching in the past 5 years.

My experience in the industry as a grunt worker: Film & TV pay weekly, TV ads take a 1-2 months to pay after service is done - It's all temporary work (Sub-Contractor).

The contracts get negotiated every three years, so they didn't have much of a choice to strike earlier, they can't strike before then. When it comes to AI, if they wait to strike until 3 years from now, it would be way too late, it might already be too late. Whenever people are negotiate a strike, or anything else, I think it's common practice to ask for way more than you want, so that you can negotiate down to what you actually want. I think the demands are a lot, but when the dust settles, I think we will see that the writers only wanted a few key things. And we will know what they are, once they settle on an agreement. I suspect these staffing minimums have to do with Ai, I think ai is their biggest worry, and I think a large part of the modern world is about to find themselves with similar worries.

I think a lot of these show runners and writers could easily become sensitivity readers. There’s still plenty of demand for that, right? 🌚

@oskar6661

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This is where most of these people will end up - editors for AI written scripts.

@zenvariety9383

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Yeah, people despise sensitivity readers.

The rings of power would have been better written if it was done by an AI, because at least the AI would have superficially known the source material.

I love your input! Thank you for the time you take to put them all together!

"Promise you won't replace us with AI" If you're already doing a worse job why not? How much!?! Just putting it out there: Recently retired doctor (thank god!). I never made more than £55k a year, 75+hr weeks, and pretty darn senior.

Totally agree on the late night talk show hosts being unable to carry a show by themselves... That they couldn't even handle a week a day no they shut down immediately... Meaning most of the people that work on those shows go home not being paid...

Absolutely wonderful breakdown and review of this whole thing here, to say the least!!! ALWAYS enjoy your videos brother, no matter what!!

Watched Tangled the other day with my Granddaughter. Such good writing!! It’s sad what they are putting out now.

The writers guild gave Stevie Wonder driving lessons.

Somehow, I just new in advance that you would provide the best take on this embarrassing fiasco Disparu. There's been a few YT Hosts that have broached the topic but few (if any) made visible the actual demands of this collective of staggering talent. Before the strike, the majority of issues normal folks had regarding shows for the past few years, have been the absolutely abysmal scripts being turned into "entertainment". Now, the people that created the devastating collapse of said "entertainment", are of the opinion their art is so good, so profound, so necessary for the entertainment industry is to survive, that they have elected to strike for better everything. What a blissfully bizarre outlook at reality to have. Truly, these are minds totally wasted on such mundane projects and are completely underappreciated for their profound skills. I think it's safe to say, a great many of these icons of the industry, are going to become very proficient at pouring flavoured coffees at counters throughout California and New York. With such staggering talent to bring to the fore, they'll be assistant night shift supervisors in no time! Call it, "a feeling"...

I live in L.A., used to work in hospitality, know many people who work in the service industry, and was absolutely disgusted at all the claims of these "starving artists." Oh, they can't afford rent! ... because they're renting absurdly expensive luxury apartments. Oh, they can no longer afford their lifestyles! ... because they are mindless consumers living well above their means. And the sheer number of them who dared to talk down on all of us "little people" who make their $10 coffees, park their expensive cars, and make their lives of near-leisure possible -- because we aren't doing "actual work" and we "should just think about getting better jobs, then." Some of them said "we don't care if the rest of you starve!", threatened to "bankrupt all of L.A." and "crush this town" into the dirt. (Spoilers, they did not. Everyone who worked in other industries kept spending their money instead, life for the rest of us carried on as usual, and we just let the ~ creatives ~ have their little strop.) But mentioning any of this would cause people to cry at you for being a "bootlicker" who "hates workers." Since that makes sense. What do I know. I'd love to make even $100,000 per year, much less double that. I'd die of happiness if my creative property was turned into a TV show that people could watch, even if I did it for free. Guess I ought to start trying to figure out how to use A.I.

please expand your scope of reviews to all movies. because, you're critiques are novel, entertaining, honest and truthful. excellent observations and commentary.

If only more writers also meant better writing...