"If I tell you that I consider one of the best jobs of my career was to finish second with Man United in the Premier League, you will say, 'this guy is crazy,'" - Mou

@kohikappu

Жыл бұрын

I mean, no one would have thought that Manchester United had a chance to even finish on top 2. Overall, it's a top 6 squad plus Fred, young and reckless McTorminay, and Jones as the Achilles heels.

@brandonayong5823

Жыл бұрын

But also that season he reached 81 points. Nobody since Ferguson to this day reached 81 points at united. That season he beat man city away. Chelsea at home. Arsenal twice. Liverpool at home and tottenham twice. He finished ahead of Conte and klopp who had a much better squad

@ehiokioyajoshuauyiosa6188

Жыл бұрын

@@brandonayong5823 And they're people that actually compare that to ole's second.

@haimainjauo242

Жыл бұрын

Okay but can we at least acknowledge that he wanted to sign HARRY MAGUIRE? He was actually mad he didn't! And he spent 150 million of that 400 million on Pogba and Fred!

@ehiokioyajoshuauyiosa6188

Жыл бұрын

@@haimainjauo242 😂

De Gea was unreal in 17/18. Almost single-handedly pushed United up to 2nd. Also broke the save record vs Arsenal.

@DailyWord3832

Жыл бұрын

Many saves against Tottenham also

@viandramonisyaf8623

Жыл бұрын

@@DailyWord3832 that was in the next season though (when his decline is already beginning)

@bitchhugger4572

Жыл бұрын

Genuinely believe that if we had this de gea during Ole's second season we would've won the league

@saltpeter500

Жыл бұрын

He still is unreal. His saves against West Ham yesterday were spectacular

@Johndoe-gf7eu

Жыл бұрын

@@saltpeter500 he made 1 good save. The 40 yard shot from rice a goalie would expect to save. It’s just the media pushing the narrative that de gea saved united. In reality united should have been 3-0 up in the first half

He won Europa league with Smalling ,Young ,Jones,Fellani, Respect !!!

@thabiso5792

Жыл бұрын

young won serie a and chris smalling starts in a europa league side

@joebarnes100

Жыл бұрын

3 of those players were very expensive signings.

@pysky4u

Жыл бұрын

And DDG

@RDR2309

Жыл бұрын

@@pysky4u You mean the guy who basically kick started his career by winning the Europa league with Atlei? Bad example lol

@joker_cons7471

Жыл бұрын

They were Also good

If I remember correctly, the 2nd season we looked quite good and really well organised, but by his last season the attacking play was rigid and completely ineffectual. He also oversaw some terrible signings. Looking back though, I think he was probably the best of the post-Ferguson managers.

@HenSt-gz7qj

Жыл бұрын

Some of the transfers are not what Mourinho wants thou, like Pogba.

@GANDHIXtv

Жыл бұрын

@@HenSt-gz7qj Perhaps. I don't think anybody definitively knows which signings he wanted and which ones he didn't. Pure conjecture really. It may have been an impossible situation for him.

@mahmoudeltelt2022

Жыл бұрын

"He also oversaw some terrible signings" all of his signings were not his first, second or third choice mate

@00dude3

Жыл бұрын

Ole was better

@yakm5385

Жыл бұрын

Last trophy you won was under him. Must've been doing something right

Yes. Jose won them their last two titles, got them to another cup final AND was responsible for the best campaign in the Premier League since Sir Alex - by far. United ended the 2017-18 in second place, ahead of Conte´s Chelsea, Klopp´s Liverpool and Poch´s Spurs - not to mention Arsenal. Respect, man. Respect.

@yunfun.8893

Жыл бұрын

Meanwhile Ole finished above Lampard's Chelsea (another rookie), a Spurs team past their cycle that was constantly changing managers, an injury-ridden Liverpool and an Arsenal team rebuilding under a rookie manager.

I thought he did very well in his first two seasons. He was criminally underrated in my opinion. People get too caught up in paper talk and media hype - but in the real world, to finish top 6 and win the League Cup and Europa League in his first season was impressive, and then to go on to finish 2nd and comfortably top 4 was very good with what he had.

@brandonayong5823

Жыл бұрын

That season where he finished 2nd he also played an fa cup final. That's a very good season by united standard post fergie

@aakarmamtora3470

Жыл бұрын

He was still the architect of his own downfall. The chelsea job before and spurs job after shows that.

@mikemcklieve

Жыл бұрын

He got job done but boringly. Sometime i watched united's game but never could under Mourinho. If you're not United fan, u won't watch his boring tactics

@isaac15752

Жыл бұрын

@@mikemcklieve ur not a United fan; stop capping, fans watch the team play that’s it, looking good or not is a extra

@isaac15752

Жыл бұрын

@@aakarmamtora3470 incorrect, wasn’t backed at Sprurs while asking for signings, and still managed to reach a final, using Chelsea and blaming the manager for sacking is lying to yourself to sound right. It’s literally the way chelsea found success, by sacking managers and signing new ones. At United he reach finals, got top 4 and top 2, won 2 cups. He is a woldclass manager, the only one whom could defeat pep against peps BEST team ever, not only once but twice. History looks at your sentence and laughs at it

Mourinho in general is still underrated, despite all his successes. He can be an uncomfortable personality, but he generally seems to know his stuff.

@dopargom6944

Жыл бұрын

Mourinho is overated he is good manager and made success in the past but now his unaffected and limited tactics just not working all the Time with modern football other managers progres like pep or klopp and Carlo anceloti .....

@whittar

Жыл бұрын

@@dopargom6944 Guardiola had unlimited funds at City and Mourinho is managing teams like Tottenham and Roma...

@frostmourne5280

Жыл бұрын

@@dopargom6944 Personally, i wouldn't call ancelotti's tactics modern, even from a real madrid fan. Though i would love to understand your perspective, what is modern football and how Ancelotti fit that criteria?

@PpTheGreatest

Жыл бұрын

@@whittar Fairly sure Mourinho was free spending while at Chelsea in his second stint, and at United. It wasn't like he didn't have access to money (although admittedly City were better run so did more with their cash). Spurs and Roma came layer.

@lolcall5295

Жыл бұрын

@@dopargom6944 you're comparing pep who manages city or bayern and has unlimited funds and DESTINED to win and be great no matter who's the coach against mourinho who's in small clubs with limited funds like roma or spurs. LOL. Pretty sure pep's the one who's overrated here.

The media painted him as an Evil manager. His harsh management of some players and his playing style only helped their statement. We United fans will forever remember him as the one who succeeded in one of our worst eras. Thanks for winning 3 trophies in your first season with that squad. Truly a SPECIAL ONE.

@ly7638

Жыл бұрын

A special one definitely. His man management is awful though, you can't lose a game and then in the post interview name and blame players individually and then expect them to respect you.

@gordo9104

Жыл бұрын

Real men did tho just look at the older heads mao would coach like in Porto Chelsea and Inter those guys accepted everything he said and improved. The new generation, my generation sadly are all pussys

@haaduria32

Жыл бұрын

@@ly7638 strange his best players take the absolute opposite of what you say

@thisIsFunnyLolz

Жыл бұрын

@@ly7638 It is just his style, very sink or swim, you either rise to prove his criticism wrong or leave. His best players love him and feel inspired to play for him in part because of his accountability, passion and demands. Unfortunately United for the past many years now has been full of players who would rather cry than give 100% for a full match. I am not a fan of Mourinho or United but he has been misjudged after less an ideal spells at spurs and United both of whom have owners who are intolerant to disagreements and hate managers who make reasonable demands. His way is not perfect but it has produced

@agabaire

Жыл бұрын

@@ly7638 if the board backed him and got him the players he wanted not what the board thought was glamorous 1-2 more seasons and 100% he would have won the EPL & Champions league They were blinded by star power pogba was not serious he screwed united they just finally replaced shoals and Carrick with Cassamero imagine that Just look at artetta and Klop and pep all whom

His back four were Valencia, Smalling, Jones and Young… sink about it

@kitotapgono1467

Жыл бұрын

Who had Peak De Gea behind them

@luismartins7130

Жыл бұрын

@@kitotapgono1467 That is true but still...

@senmanzero6493

Жыл бұрын

He asked for new cb and fullback which they all bought after he left. Clueless owners

@joebarnes100

Жыл бұрын

That back 4 is more expensive than what Liverpool have now. Let that sink in.

@jordanmince7613

Жыл бұрын

@@joebarnes100 did he buy them ?

Just pointing out, Sanchez was a Winter signing, not a summer one

@pacificdream5152

Жыл бұрын

I can’t believe they got that wrong

@deaconblackfire2896

Жыл бұрын

Tifo's lack of attention to detail has been shocking recently, for their standards at least

@winterrising8738

Жыл бұрын

Ironically that's when it all started to go downhill from there

@anirudhrajiyengar8317

Жыл бұрын

@@winterrising8738 actually. Martial through the left was going really good in December Jan and then Sanchez came in.

@anirudhrajiyengar8317

Жыл бұрын

Another major issue Tifo seem to not consider is José aged up the squad significantly and heavily relied on individual moments of brilliance of the big buys. United barely had any patterns of play apart from who to target aerially

Almost every manager has complained about owners not agreeing to sign the required players under Glazer ownership. Jose Mourinho was treated very harshly by our board. We United fans are thankful for his contribution and for bringing in Ibrahimovic for free.

@trelos7431

Жыл бұрын

Add Dalot

@anggaihza3074

Жыл бұрын

Even Fergie complained

@pranavbalaji1056

Жыл бұрын

ole did'nt, infac\t that puppet was praising the owners

Had the glazers backed him when he wanted to buy Koulibaly, Griezman, Perisic and Fabinho Mourinho would’ve taken United to greater heights.

@Conici_AU

Жыл бұрын

Griezmann didn’t want to leave atleti after 16/17

@Unison23

Жыл бұрын

He wouldn’t have taken them any higher

@vta2265

Жыл бұрын

@@Conici_AU no, more like 2017/2018, that's why United bought Lukaku instead. Also he didn't want to leave because Atleti had a transfer ban then

@joebarnes100

Жыл бұрын

How much would that transfer list cost at the time? Give any manager players of that talent and costs and they will do well.

@learnfilminaminute9509

Жыл бұрын

I was the owner, I wouldnt have backed him. He was playing defensive football that didnt yield results at the time of his sacking. There was also a toxic dressing room

In 17/18, the maximum amount of goals that Manchester United conceded was 2

@jean-paulwalters8855

Жыл бұрын

Do you mean in 1 game by game?, that's pretty good tbf

@siphomnisi3842

Жыл бұрын

@@jean-paulwalters8855 his Chelsea team was even better conceding maximum of 1 g per game

Mourinho is still for me a genius. People have short memories in football but some of his achievements. Such as winning a champions league with PORTO. Are nothing short of remarkable. One of the best to ever do it without doubt

@mohammedsuliman8072

Жыл бұрын

True he was also very unlucky in both Chelsea and Madrid and his Inter UCL winning side was nothing short of Legendary

@IASP17

Жыл бұрын

even winning the Conference league this year. people downplay it but its not like he won it with Chelsea or Real. he didnt go in there with a big club against these smaller clubs.

@eureka0107

Жыл бұрын

@@IASP17 He won a Mickey Mouse cup with a stacked Roma team relative to what they faced. Of course there's zero merit in that.

You guys done David Moyles dirty with that drawing of him. Jheez.

Everybody tainted Mourinho until they saw Ole in shambles. Now everyone wonders how Mou did it. Thats the sign of a maestro.

@TimTomJimJom

Жыл бұрын

In a few years we’ll probably be saying the same about Ole. Played in a far more competitive time in the prem too. That along with the fact he wasn’t a proven manager

@RaunakJain11

Жыл бұрын

@@TimTomJimJom Ole's tenure wasn't completely his fault. The players were lazy and demotivated and the board didnt care (still doesnt care). From a tactical standpoint and expectations I'll rate Mou higher than Ole. Lets see how history remembers them.

@yunfun.8893

Жыл бұрын

@@TimTomJimJom No they won't especially if Ten Hag wins a trophy this season and finishes with more points than him. If ETH finishes with more than 75 points and wins a trophy he's already exceeded what Ole did in 4 seasons.

ibrahimovic injury clearly effected the squad. he was not only striker, also the player who has been working long time together with mou and could handle players like pogba and lindgard.

Yes, I always thought they overachieved under Mourinho. I didn't think the players were good enough except De Gea who was so annoyingly good during those years that he should've been not only Best goalkeeper in the world but even at least nominated for best football player of the year. And it always seemed Mourinhos tactics and De Gea earned them points. They shouldn't have no business being in 2nd place or fighting for CL places. - Liverpool fan

@JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw

Жыл бұрын

of course we have business being in those places xD

@BoereViking

Жыл бұрын

Y.N.W.A

@saiyerugara9038

Жыл бұрын

It was certainly a dysfunctional squad and Jose Mourinho was able to get quite a bit out of them.

@jean-paulwalters8855

Жыл бұрын

@@saiyerugara9038 2 seasons in, he should have had his team by then, he brought Bailly, Lindelof (didn't use them), Pogba, Matic (didn't get the best out of them), Lukaku, Ibrahimovic, Sanchez (his defensive tactics, isolated them, starving them of chances), inherited Rashford, Martial, De Gea (then best PL GK, under LVG),

@saiyerugara9038

Жыл бұрын

@@jean-paulwalters8855 He at least won trophies though. I believe he's the only manager since Ferguson to win a domestic trophy, a European trophy and finish top 4. What's more, he had an 80+ point season as well.

I’ll always respect Mourinho, he won us couple of trophies in one of our worst eras.

The Man Utd board were a shambles. Chose players over the manager. Look at where those players are now. Man Utd gave him Fred and a young Dalot to bridge the gap to City after finishing 2nd. Mourinho maybe wouldn’t have won the league in his 3rd season or maybe he would have. But the Man Utd board never gave him the backing for us to ever know…

@eavyeavy2864

Жыл бұрын

And by ronaldo and casem it still player over manager

@magikarpsplashy

Жыл бұрын

He wanted those players 😂

@xXxMrHashxXx

Жыл бұрын

@@magikarpsplashy nope he openly criticised that transfer window and numerous others during his time at Man Utd. All managers before him have all said the same thing. So I’d take there actual quotes over what you’re saying fella

@magikarpsplashy

Жыл бұрын

@@xXxMrHashxXx a manager blames the players instead of himself? Quelle suprise! So which players that we signed did he want? Just the ones that did well? You probably believe him when he says he's still a top manager too 🤣

@xXxMrHashxXx

Жыл бұрын

@@magikarpsplashy there’s no way you can say Mourinho or even you as a fan were happy with that transfer window of just adding Fred and Dalot was good enough…

Mourinho is one of the few managers who is only judged by his 'problematic third seasons', and the media forgets all the great, often remarkable things he often achieves in the first two seasons. Things that no one expects him to do, and was constantly written off. Mourinho's Real Madrid is one of the BEST teams I've ever seen in my life, even though they won most of their major things later on after his departure. It was a spellbinding counterattacking team, with some of the best players in the world working at the top of their game, and an unstoppable CR7.

After Fergie, José was the best damn manager they had. They never appreciated José, never got the support he needed. He could’ve won the league with them

@TimTomJimJom

Жыл бұрын

Best of a bad bad bunch, not that hard

Rojo and Jones patnership in the heart of defence was a pleasant surprise during Mourinho's era.

Player power and horrible owners got Jose's downfall at UTD💯

@silvb4952

Жыл бұрын

And Levy at Spurs! Similar scenario.

@tomteatom

Жыл бұрын

@@silvb4952 And what just went down at Villa. Can't believe Unai joined them.

@eavyeavy2864

Жыл бұрын

Good thing eth curb egonaldo

I had a season ticket for Jose's whole tenure at United. I have to say there seemed to be as many bad days as there were good. 0-0 draws to Hull City and the like, but also beating Liverpool and Chelsea at home were fantastic

@Victor_Trumper

Жыл бұрын

Aren't you the BT Sports Community section Poll Guy?

@HonestlyBenjamin

Жыл бұрын

@@Victor_Trumper Yeah, the legend James Williams

It reminds me of Manuel Pellegrini's Real Madrid, he had one of the best campaigns in La Liga and even so, according to many, it went badly

I remember Mourinho’s first 2 seasons were great. Lukaku was actually fit and he managed the LW Martial and Rashford swap perfectly. We were easily beating teams 4-0 and the clean sheets were his bread and butter. Add that we won trophies with a worse squad then what we have now and honestly Mourinho was our best manager after Ferguson. He was brutally honest and that’s why fans didn’t like him. ETH says the right things so now fans are all in love with him but in reality ETH just started and we need to relax. I don’t see ETH playing this possession style football like Pep which most fans claim. ETH has been doing the same counter attacking with individual brilliance. I’m willing to bet Mourinho’s Man United controlled games much better.

@tukiran3953

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, ETH didnt play possesion game oriented like pep, but maybe because their squad not good enough,

@jean-paulwalters8855

5 ай бұрын

​@@tukiran3953The Ajax players are way better technical players than Man United players, he can't play possession football with the current players he has

That 3-2 win vs City has to go down as one of the all-time great managerial masterclasses

@TimTomJimJom

Жыл бұрын

Don’t see how, we did deserve to lose that day. Great game and a great spectacle but we were outclassed if we are being honest

@HonestlyBenjamin

Жыл бұрын

@@TimTomJimJom In the first half, absolutely. However, I think Mourinho set the team up really well in the second half to restrict the threat of City and actually get at them going forward too, getting Pogba forward well and combining with Sanchez. The thing with Pep's City is that they'll go 1-0 up and they could then tear anyone apart with how they exploit space in behind, but Mourinho didn't let that happen, and he did that against the City Centurions

The fact he got sacked for the happiness of players like Pogba and that Click still frustrates me. He should still be battling and rebuilding teams to go up against Pep and Klopp

@jean-paulwalters8855

Жыл бұрын

Has Mourinho ever really rebuild teams, RM he inherited a beast squad, Chelsea, the same, then just sprinkled on a Drogba, Carvalho, Cech, and 2nd stint a Costa and Fabregas, he inherited an aging Inter team, that had legendary players like Vieira and Ibrahimovic, and a then generational RB Maicon, and brought in Sneijder, but he didn't rebuild the team really

@adhambeydoun

Жыл бұрын

@@jean-paulwalters8855 my friend, Mourinho at Inter was magic. Inter were failures in European competitions. He sold Ibra for Eto’o and bought Milito for pennies and he was World Class that season with Sneijder. That inter team was built with no budget, inter were financially broken. They were by no means a legendary side. Don’t forget buying Lucio as well for nothing. Not spending $70mil on a defender whenever he’d like.

@jean-paulwalters8855

Жыл бұрын

@@adhambeydoun they'd won the UCL before he arrived tho, they also had prime Maicon, Eto'o, Sneijder, Cesar, in their 1st team, having players like that in your ranks, makes you, at least a garenteed UCL underdog to the United’s, Chelsea, Barca, Bayern, Real, at least

@adhambeydoun

Жыл бұрын

@@jean-paulwalters8855 Inter hadn't won the UCL since 1965 what are you talking about? Inter were defending Serie A champions when he arrived yes, but the team was average and those nugget signings like Milito, Lucio, Snjieder and Pandev was everything with Eto'o

@jean-paulwalters8855

Жыл бұрын

@@adhambeydoun 1965, was before he arrived 🤦‍♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣, Lucio was also a Bayern Munich player before he arrived at Inter, Sneijder was playing for Real Madrid before he went to Inter, Eto'o was apart of the best ever club side/period in the world, wrongfully sold by Pep

It was insane how mourinho won us our last 2 trophies with Young , Valencia , Luka Shaw and Smalling. We also have an aging Rooney but we were playing pretty well. Mourinho is the chosen one fr

Out of all post-Ferguson Era, Mourinho is definitely underrated and the media hates him for it. Man utd had Zlatan, Pogba, young Rashford Depay Lingard and Martial, Juan Mata, Schweinsteiger, Mktharyan, and Ander Herrera. Though I knew we wouldn't even expect to be going far as willing PL Title or better yet winning that shield community cup. there was flareness and Mourinho style football in sensibility given that there was toxicity in the long run.

I remember United began that season quite well and the only points dropped was a 2-2 draw at Stoke. Jose kept pace with City until early October. Matic and Lukaku looked like great buys, Martial was playing really well and Pogba at times resembled something of an £89 million player. Then United went to Anfield and stank the place out by parking the bus to grind out an embarrassing nil - nil draw. After that point the wheels fell off and the season tactically became absolute attrition until May. City pretty much won the title in early December when they beat United at Old Trafford and extended their lead in to double figures.

@ryantannehill2830

Жыл бұрын

When not allowed to roam, like with France, pogba never looks like a world class player. He's like a baby deer, all legs.

@shishsuke

Жыл бұрын

Yep, people have short memories but even the first season we looked so awful and turgid in the league games. We barely ground out results against extremely poor opposition in the Europa league and Jose started prancing off claiming he'd won a "treble". I know that our board is full of tossers but I really did not care for the Mourinho era despite how hard he tried to sell himself as a martyr

The xG should give absolutely no indication about "best" unless you had xG per game and then assessed the theoretical points that would have been made at that level

"I, myself, because of my personality, made out that the training, the games and the job were all to win, win, win, and then, when I came to situations where it was very difficult to win, which for other coaches is something acceptable, in my case it was never enough."

In this order are the best managers…Ferguson, Mourinho, Wegner. Ferguson winning the league with a team that the next season was abysma as well as motivating players to give it their alll, Mourinho with mediocre teams winning a CL and beating FCB in their prime to take the European trophy and Wegner doing miraculous things with almost no money spent because he was paying back for the new stadium built. Unreal what those 3 did.

@Arcadious10

Жыл бұрын

Ancelotti looking like🙃

@AutopilotAndChill

Жыл бұрын

@@Arcadious10 As good as Ancelotti is, most of his time has been spent beating farmers recently. I respected him more when he was the manager of Milan and Chelsea as back then the Italian league had 4 good teams as did the English League. Coaching Bayern and RM to titles always has been easy. Both are the biggest spenders in their respective leagues and SHOULD win their leagues. Yeah, he snagged some CL trophies but for me the order of trophy prestige and difficulty as of today is Premier League then the UCL. The UCL is won mostly by teams in farmers leagues as they don’t have to field their best squads on the Saturday before the UCL games unless they are playing perhaps the second place team in their league, thus they get to rest their best players and help them remain injury free or heal up. From top to bottom the PL is the strongest league.

Looking back I would say that the vast majority of the things Jose said were true, but he said them in the wrong way. The club's problems were far greater than Mourinho though. The entire system from top to bottom was a mess.

Using xGD here is ridiculous. EVERYONE knows that under Mourinho United (and other teams he's managed) would sit back after going 1-0 up and hence having a low xG If he had better players at his disposal then they would have had a better xGD and been closer to City And De Gea's 'overperfromance' was surely, in part, down to Mourinho's coaching and motivation.

Charity Shield , UEFA Cup and EFL Cup. I would call it a success

Man won 3 trophies in his 1st season, and then went to another Cup final whilst finishing 2nd in his 2nd season. Crazy how that results in a sacking the next season.

@ronanfitzpatrick1261

Жыл бұрын

Ah, I think you left out a lot of context there. There were signs at the end of the second season that the garden wasn't all roses. And it was abundantly clear he had lost control by December 2018. Whether or not he was right to say / do whatever he did behind closed doors is almost irrelevant; managers job is: 1) to try and win 2) control the dressing room, and keep the team a team. The separate cliques that formed then carried into Ragnicks time, even if the personnel changed. Owners aren't going to replace 24 hard to get players all at once, when they can quick fix it by sacking a manager & gradually shipping out troublemakers afterwards if they believe the manager was correct. Every manager needs to ensure for their own sake (and teams) that they don't put themselves in that position I can well imagine there was blame on both sides for the team fracturing

@RazorTooths

Жыл бұрын

@@ronanfitzpatrick1261 you're right I did gloss over many details lmao, but in the end he produced the most results out of all the post-Fergie managers. Hopefully ten Hag does good cause' United not being on top is always weird to me

@gm2407

Жыл бұрын

It all went wrong with the signing of Sanchez. Upset the apple cart beyond what the squad could cope with having already got the Mourinho intensity in place. Otherwise it was going on nicely mid season before that. Then the start of next season the results fell off.

@ronanfitzpatrick1261

Жыл бұрын

@@RazorTooths Agreed. Signs are there so far with Ten Haag. I think United are maybe 2 or 3 signings away from competing though (Ralf wasn't that far off with needing 10 signings in retrospect). Hopefully can challenge next year, more training and a few fresh faces - although I can see Liverpool, Arsenal and Newcastle all significantly strengthening too.

@ronanfitzpatrick1261

Жыл бұрын

@@gm2407 It's funny how that happens, but makes sense in a way, when you think each team is just a small group of (mostly) young lads - in terms of attitude, or 11 highly interdependent players on the pitch - for cohesion, work rate etc

The many times his Manchester United side were expected to lose against man city, Tottenham, and Liverpool only to come away with a draw or a rigid win in his favor gave me and my lil bro headaches. It’s Jose Mourinho.

the 16/17 season was better than 17/18 in terms of football played. Lack of cutting edge was why we finished 6th in 16/17.

People forgot how much pep spent that season

Mourinho's Manchester United team were half decent and his trophy haul and league finishes with them were impressive. However he's considered a failure because Manchester United fans can't accept anything other than premier league and champions league success. They were highly spoilt by the success of the Alex Ferguson era, which was still very fresh in the memory for them. Ten Hag has done okay for them and is trying to rebuild the squad, but he'll soon go the same way as Mourinho as instant gratification will not have been gained.

I love the artwork. 'David Moyes' looks much more like Marty Feldman.

Yes, they were. The media just didn't like Jose.

@jordonbooman9913

Жыл бұрын

The media don't like foreigners in general

@Irishatheist24

Жыл бұрын

😂 mourinho is a fraud

@honestmanutdfan603

Жыл бұрын

@@Irishatheist24 he's better than pep

@yakm5385

Жыл бұрын

@@Irishatheist24 best manager mate. Learn football

@user-tr1hx7jx4r

Жыл бұрын

the media don't like United you mean .

The problem with Mourinho is his interviews and antics on the touchline are more entertaining than the football his teams produce on the pitch.

We signed Sanchez in the winter not summer And that triggered a series of downward spiral after that. I feel missing out that context is key

Great summary and information presented here 💯

Don’t forget the Community Shield, as he told that touchline reporter after they won the Europa League. To be fair, I count it as a trophy, but there is no way to argue that this period was a success.

@TimTomJimJom

Жыл бұрын

It’s for charity mate. Like counting the Audi cup or somthing

We signed Lukaku without signing Perisic. United didn't sign Sanchez till January and they lost a lot of momentum. Look at the pre-January numbers. I wonder what about signing Sanchez on treble to double what everyone else was on upset the dressing room 🤔

The reason British media is still talking about this achievement and this man means it was a success. I swear this guy leaves rent-free in the heads of these guys.

2024 and what I wouldn't give for those 2 trophies and 2nd place finish in an Era where our strikers (Rashy, Jadon, Hojlund, Antony, and Martial) combined have 8 goals, and the best player is an 18 year old. We are out of UCL in what could be the easiest group for any Top 5 team, we are 7th in table with 9 losses, out of EFL Cup, and netting just 2 goals against Wigan Atheltic. We literally drew and lost to the like of FC Copenhagen and Galatrasay, we are losing to Notts, West Ham, Bournemouth, Newcastle, Crystal Palace, and Brighton. We are terrible.

81 points was the highest they've had in years since and previously. They maybe lucked into a few extra points than they usually get, due to phenomenal individual players like Pogba. 81 is not enough to win a Premier league title.

@billyjean5934

9 ай бұрын

*Claudio Ranieri has entered the chat*

Mourinho can never be overrated! Ratings can never go high enough for Mourinho! Respect! Respect!

Yes! Mourinho's Manchester United Were Underrated! We won the Europa League Cup and the League Cup! And also we managed to finish 2nd in the league, with a terrible group of useless players. Considering how bad the team is and how bad they were playing before Mourinho took over. It is an impressive achievement that he managed to turn the club around. And set us on the right track! There was some major issues with players who were consistently underperforming though.

@jean-paulwalters8855

Жыл бұрын

You think this current Manchester United team is bad?

One video on how pep guardiola was bought to city and spend millions and hasn't won champions league specifically in his last 4 season or so

They should have got him Perisic when he asked for him, & Though United finished 19 pts behind City, we were competing against a centurion team, which is very difficult mentally. It was still really good year with Rashford dunking over Trent XD

Mourinho's team was underrated in retrospect but how he treated Schweinsteiger during that time is unforgivable

He also reached a FA Cup Final and Manchester United played better than Chelsea on that game. With Mou, United was always on Champions, even in his third season and later being fired, he was able to take the team to the knockout stage of Champions. Van Gaal and Ole fail to do that, well Ole beat PSG.

I think it's worth noting that of the Post-Ferguson Utd managers to manage more than 5 games, Mourinho had both the highest win% (barring Ten Hag who's got a small sample size) and the lowest loss% outright of all of them. in both cases only marginally worse off than Ferguson's records He did a good job with an unbalanced, awkward squad.

Prime De Gea happened

they had the easiest route to europa league final ever. but i did think the season after their 2nd place finish they would be real contenders. they seemed to buy only players with bad attitudes though

Can we please get a video talking about VICENTE DEL BOSQUE already he is the original Carlo Ancelloti meets Arrigo Sachi

1:14 can we just appreciate the ART

Love the man! I think unlike Ole he wasn't backed up by the board enough when they didn't even get him a CB and got Ole one in the face of Maguire

@coopaloopvt

Жыл бұрын

Eric Bailly and Victor Lindelof were both bought under Mou… not sure what your definition of a cb is

@nickd987

Жыл бұрын

He got Bailly and lindelof. The cb he wanted was aldeweireld who the very next season went to play to Belgium

Love the channel....but this time I disagree. Jose did the best with an average squad. All the players he criticized have not proven him wrong till today.

@matthewgillies6273

7 ай бұрын

Thank you! He was spot on about all except MAYBE Luke Shaw

The club took side with Pogba, Shaw etc. Turns out Pogba never met expectations. If the Special One talks, you should listen.

@learnfilminaminute9509

Жыл бұрын

Even the fans wanted Mourinho out

I had genuinely forgot we finished 6 in his first season because of the two trophies.

Mourinho did the best possible job with some of the poor player he had. I've always believed that. He wasn't supported by the board. He finished second and then was told to do better without being given the financial backing.

Best footy channel of all time. Underrated.

We was hard to break down and solid in a block. That's a since off good coaching

@TimTomJimJom

Жыл бұрын

I mean so was Burnley under dych

@footballtalk5798

Жыл бұрын

@@TimTomJimJom good coaching

Could you do a vid on why west ham aren't clicking like last season? What's changed?

Depends how you define underrated? In terms of the success it had matching the quality, possibly. The 1st season it did really well, 6th was a bit of a false position, it was really unlucky in several PL games. 2nd season did alright, before Pogba's injury it was ticking very nicely & only started running out of steam towards the end (when they bought Sanchez, screwed up the attacking dynamics). But overrated & underrated are determined by how people perceive things, and the amount of Mourinho fans who pump up that United job he did as something to illustrate his awesomeness has always been laughable. It was decent, if you pretend the 3rd season didn't exist, but he could've done MUCH better!

@ronanfitzpatrick1261

Жыл бұрын

Perfect summary imo

@kingrodney441

Жыл бұрын

So do you believe that united team was capable of winning the league or contending for the UCL or even winning it at that time? Because that's pretty much the only thing more he could've done with what he had. His time in united was no masterpiece but it's still very impressive that they accomplished so much. Especially considering talent wise they could be better now than they were before

@HHHBFResurrected

Жыл бұрын

@@kingrodney441 The problem is the success he had was scrapping the barrel. Southampton should've beaten them in the LC Final, were the better team by Mourinho's own admission. As impressive as they were in the Europa Final, Ajax were literally a team of teenagers - I think Ziyech was their oldest player in his mid 20's. Finishing 2nd looks nice but you have to factor in Conte wasn't on his game (unfocussed/wanted out of Chelsea) & Wenger/Arsenal were a total non-factor, so the only significant competition for that spot was a Liverpool team still brewing away but not complete & an excellent but mentally weak Spurs burdened with playing at Wembley - pretty good, but not outstanding. He did nothing there that left a big impression, it just kinda happened. The deserved CL exit vs. Sevilla was a big downer on the whole job, if they'd have got to the quarters/semis & they'd gone out putting up a good fight I think many people's perceptions of the job he did would've been a bit more positive.

@kingrodney441

Жыл бұрын

@@HHHBFResurrected you know how spoiled you are as a fan to call 2 trophies, one being a European trophy, not that impressive and something that kinda happened. A spurs or Leicester fan who had those trophies wouldn't dare call it something that kinda happened. I know united had dominated the 20 years prior to that but winning 1 trophy isn't something to take for granted let alone 2. I agree he could have done more but even a man city fan would say 2 trophies in one year is something to remember

@HHHBFResurrected

Жыл бұрын

@@kingrodney441 When you set the bar the way Mourinho does, managing the teams Mourinho does, trophies are an expectation. Most people would agree Pochettino did a FARRRRR better job at Spurs than Mourinho did a United for example, the lack of trophies is complete irrelevant to that.

Superb video!

can't believe he was there for 3 years thats mad

Dunno why Jose doesn't last more than 4 seasons in a club in one period. His sacking by ManU and Spurs were outrageous, especially by Levy who sacked him prior to Cup Final match, which is dumb.

Plz Man Utd, do not do the same mistake u did with Mourinho on Ten Hag. Plz give him time, patience and plenty of backing. He’ll turn this club into a great club. Trust him!

Where's your video on the centurions?

The problem was with the players not with Mourinho. For me in 2017/18 he overachieved with that squad.

I’ve seen Manchester City do things that’ll never ever be repeated. What Mourinho did with Manchester United is the greatest achievement of my lifetime.

Bring Jose Mourinho back please

I've never heard anyone refer to that season as the centurions

Alexis Sanchez wasn’t signed in the summer, he was swapped directly for mirkitaryan in January

people back then still live in SAF era and hasn't realize how far they've been behind

actually I feel this first season was the best under Jose Although we were 6th . the Only problem was we have too many frustrating 1:1 / 0:0 draw , and the ref was very biased to us . In the half way of the season they have 6/7 penalties not given by the ref . I guess that's a part of Mourinho's problems with the ref in premier league .

@ronanfitzpatrick1261

Жыл бұрын

Not being bad, but my brother in law (Madrid fan) and two friends (Chelsea, Spurs) all said the same thing about refereeing decisions in Joses first 8 months at their clubs (as did I at the time with United). My mates & I now call it the Mourinho Effect. If you go back and look at the decisions and compare the decisions to those for other teams, both for & against, it'll be more like 2-3 excess decisions tops - every team was getting bad decisions back then (arguably even now), it's why they brought in VAR. Jose just has a way of mixing in enough truth to convince you that yes, the world is in fact out to get your club.

Nostalgia colored glassed here we go!!

Haven’t even watched the vid yet but I’ve already liked it based on the title

Respect man. Respect

Looking at Manchester United, it's clear the problem hasn't been the managers but the decision makers in the boardroom with zero football knowledge, only chasing commercial deals. Hopefully things will turn around soon enough.

in Italy we say that "The time is a gentleman"

Only time United got over 80 points since SAF.

Mourinho would have won that 17/81 PL if City didn't cheat with their FFP in the last 10 years

He did the job despite bad situations. No excuses. Eventually he gave in but left with a legacy. Let’s see Ten Hagg can fill his shoes

still their best manager post-ferguson 3 trophies with that team is no easy feat the fans really under valued him during his time

Intersting stast Alexis Sánchez had 14 Expected Assists the season he joined Manchester United.

Love how this video gives a more context. We got an easy run on our way to winning the EL where a lot of the best teams were drawing against each other. The 2nd place finish in 17/18 wasn’t as convincing as people thought considering the xG difference and how DDG was the best keeper in the world at that point.

@TimTomJimJom

Жыл бұрын

I think you’re the only person in the comment section who realised that this is what the video is hinting at, that he wasn’t underrated in his time. Judging by most comments people saw the title and thought the video would agree that his time was underrated

He was clearly the best out of the bunch... that said a lot about his quality.

Love the Jose revisionism in the past few years

Mourinho has continued to prove, time and time again, that he is one of the greatest managers ever. He's won everywhere... except Tottenham. But that doesn't count because Tottenham are allergic to trophies and would need immediate medical attention if they let him play that final before sacking him

That's like choosing an average team in carrier mode and playing on legendary lvl. You finish 2nd is great achievement