Welding Table part 2: Fireball Tool Test, CLAMPS and more!
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@andriuszeizys2623Ай бұрын
"If you cant make it perfect-make it adjustable"(this old Tony ). love ur videos viny 👍
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
So true! ..cause pretty much waht I did...😉
@1978garfieldАй бұрын
Those tools are pretty awesome. If I find a local laser cutting place that doesn't require a life time contract or a 10,000 piece order I may be in touch! Liked and subscibbled for Al Gore's rhythm.
@rpe3715Ай бұрын
Too bad we can only hit 'thumbs up' once! Great, entertaining videos, with excellent engineering/mfg content. Should be required viewing for college students!
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Heu thanks man for your comment, glad ypu appreciated it! Not sure about the college think..there s a few crunchy jokes in there..😅
@wheellifeАй бұрын
Awesome video Viny!!! Your humour is top notch!
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jimwi9592Ай бұрын
Nice work Viny B. I Think your weld table is awesome. Just an observation not a criticism of you or Fireball Tools is that you both did not test your material before hand to show that it is in spec before you stared the job weld test . I work with RHS a lot and it's not all the same it .varies length to length. end to end and side to side and then on long lengths it can be twisted. The stresses in RHS are huge. If you cut the side out of a piece say 75x75x3mm 300mm long that side you cut out will bow like a banana and the C shape will close up a mil or two. I recently made a table out of 75x50x3mm RHS mitered the corners using my 6" machine square to square and clamp the corner only to find the out side set to 90* only to find the inside angle was out 2mm over 6" because the miter released some stress on the 75mm faces, they bowed out making it hard to square up. If you take some 100x100x3mm and cut a piece 25mm long off the end you will be very lucky if you can find a right angle on it. Jigs are awesome but you have to take in to account all the variables for the level of perfection you are trying to achieve.
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
you,re right Jim! And just the sheer fact that I used 2 different types of tubing and that they have been already welded in some other project...I didn't really give myself a chance! But that's ok, cause I uselly work will used material and wanted to see how bad the part would have been, it was a test to see if how precise I could build a part but also how to work with the table and what methods I should avoid!
@ejpnАй бұрын
Love the videos! I'd love to see some videos on basic fab work for noobs like me. For example: I'd like to build a front bumper to hold a winch for a Polaris RZR, but there aren't many examples of that on youtube. Thanks and keep up the good work!
@kenwood8665Ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant video
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Hey thanks, glad you liked it!
@keithviolette5870Ай бұрын
I loved the William Shatner school of overacting bit, well done! The table looks like a great option, going to have to consider it.
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
William Shatner...🤣!! Good one...Yes you really should think about getting one!
@benjaminbutler5739Ай бұрын
I love your videos Viny B is the KING!
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Hey thanks, glad you like them! 👍
@DatBoiOrlyАй бұрын
13:01 theres actually 5 things I would like to see you build for the tractor 1: a rotavator for the PTO 2: a hedge cutter for the front loader 3: a mower attachment for the PTO 4: a four-way bucket for the front loader 5: make it into a half track that is all for now...
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Bro!! These are some cool projects!! 🤯 I started a list and they're noted! Thanks!
@YamahaYZFR6RJ05
Ай бұрын
As a German I support #5.
@DatBoiOrly
Ай бұрын
@@YamahaYZFR6RJ05 yeah personally half track tractors are superior to normal wheeled version especially on a work machine since the only thing it effects is top speed & you ain't going fast on a tractor.
@DatBoiOrly
Ай бұрын
@@VinyB57 no problem buddy I'm just a weirdo that works on heavy agricultural machinery if you need more idea's I'll be sure to let you know, personally if I was going to start on one I would recommend going for the half track one first since that extra traction & surface area is handy when using the tractor on grass (since you don't tear it up) even when using the digger attachment since it gives extra support, also IMO i think if you do it properly like the john deere four track 8rx styled tracks it'll bring In more views since over the past few years there's been a growing interest in converting old tractors into half tracks ;)
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
@@DatBoiOrly OK, I'll think about it..thanks! 👍👍
@joeg7755Ай бұрын
Excellent video Viny. Glad you went back for that steel as well, I would do the same considering the prices today. Are you racing this year?
@stephenhegartyАй бұрын
I knew you were going in the bin after that “scrap” 😂
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
You know me too well...suspicious..🤭
@jackruel3223Ай бұрын
2 ideas that ive been planning on building but want some inspiration. DIY 2x72 belt sander for as cheap as possible. A unique way to store scrap metal/cutoffs in a small workshop/garage. Maybe a floating honeycomb shelf made from square tubes?
@matthewpeterson3329Ай бұрын
Great job, Viny. A fair portion of building your own table/tooling is gaining experience along the way. And your future projects will be considerably more precise and efficient now. Fireball goods are not for the hobbyist, they are for the professional who understands the need for precision and quality to make repeatable parts with fewer mistakes. The naysayers are obviously not working in a competitive environment where quick correctness is a must to maximize profit.
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
I had to google "naysayers"...😅 But I m 100% with you on this one!
@bobwilson7684
20 күн бұрын
@@VinyB57 man it´s all what youtube is about
@TNWWDGTFilmsАй бұрын
As someone whos running out of garage space i always toy with idea of hydraulic press that has a frame you can easily store, and mount in bench vise. Or possibly store on wall and clamp to table when in use.
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Noted, thanks for your suggestion!
@dfreadhoffАй бұрын
I would like to see a post hole auger!
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Noted, thanks!👍
@jonhy2x4Ай бұрын
Awesome
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
thanks!👍
@charlesmorissette8620Ай бұрын
Would love to see your shot at a 2x72 belt sander! If you haven't already built one 😁 saying Hi from Quebec Beauce 😁
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Noted! big thanks Charles, got this one a few times and its a pretty good idea! 👍
@whodat90Ай бұрын
I went to harbor freight and bought a bunch of cheap F clamps, cut the bottoms off and welded a bolt to the bottom.
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Cool! 👍
@DeathTollRacingАй бұрын
As always, very entertaining!
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Hey thanks Galvin! 👌 Don't forget, do multiple mid-project spare renders when editing..😉
@DeathTollRacing
Ай бұрын
@@VinyB57 Roger that!
@BrokenLifeCycleАй бұрын
Perhaps some post-weld heat-treatment might have brought it back into spec? Or heat-straighten it by applying heat in specific spots and then cooling it under stress? I don't think the tech drawing was stopping anyone from doing any of that after weld up. It would just cost more to do so, but it could help reduce the distortions.
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Oh you're right, it should brought back the part, but I wanted to see in a production situation, how bad the part would be....cause to be frank I will never reheat a frame on one of my projects..so at least I know roughly how they will come out of the jig!
@malteveerhoff897Ай бұрын
Cool Projekt: Portable Sawmill like Woodmizer LT
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
I know I,m gonna build one of these in a few years! Thanks for the suggestion!
@GiantKilla333Ай бұрын
Jason 🙏🏼 praying nobody sees this channel 😂😂
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
I don t think he worries a bit!! 😉
@GiantKilla333
Ай бұрын
@@VinyB57 Nah probably not. I'm guessing most of the people who buy his cast iron fixture table are part of a large company and not 2 car garage/ home shops. This laser cut modular fixture table suits more people in my opinion. Way to go!! 👍🏼
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
@@GiantKilla333 BTW...FireBall reply to one of the threads in this comment section...so he knows..but like we said, my product and his are 2 diffenrent things! I m 100% with the big shops owning his tables...more then the homegamer!
@GiantKilla333
Ай бұрын
@@VinyB57 That's awesome that he's watching. Makes sense, both of you are smart as hell and extremely innovative. Before I get any sort of welding/fixture table I need something better than an old 115v Lincoln flux core "handy mig" and a very very old Craftsman 30/230 amp AC stick welder. Probably have to refinance my house and sell a kidney or something 🤣🤣 cheers ✊🏼
@1one3_RacingАй бұрын
What I loved best about the Fireball tool video is that whole point of the video is saying "clamping the piece to a steel table won't stop weld distortion" Then, in the solution to the problem, they say "if you clamp the piece to our steel table, it won't distort when you weld"
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
I think it should help.....like A LOT to clamp the part...it's not pure magic...but it's better then not clamping it!
@tonyestvik7969Ай бұрын
Good job Viny! Really like this video and you should really have your own TV show....⁉️😜...I were thinking about clamps, how good clamp can I make useing threaded rod, and extending nuts...do you think, Obi Wan...🤔😉
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Not sure about the TV show...😅 I'm english is not as good fir such a task! But thanks Tony
@jaakkoiswatching6437Ай бұрын
Which one is flatter, your table or tire?
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
The table...I hope!
@akselbering291Ай бұрын
What order are you welding the corners in? When welding frames I start with all outside corners, then inside. Then the sides, but you still want the welds you just put down to be burning hot when you go to weld the other side so you do have to be quick about getting them done and flipped.
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Random was the order! 😅To be frank, I'm still a noob here! Gonna try your method next time! Out-In-Top then flip! 👌
@jimspeed1388Ай бұрын
Plans for a car lift for a home garage high enough to use a creeper to get underneath the car.
@DD-DD-DD
Ай бұрын
There be dragons
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
I already built one (video on my channel)...never sold the plans....to affraid that it kills someone! 😬 But it's noted!
@robertpawlakАй бұрын
Next tool mayby screw/auger wood chipper with counter knife. You just made perfect table to keep everything squared, so this machine would have a lot of round..ish parts ;)
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
thanks for the suggestion! It's noted! 👍
@connorpollmann937911 күн бұрын
Do you think this table would be accurately cut on a water jet? Not many laser options in my area
@VinyB57
10 күн бұрын
It's a good question, I heard that somebody had good results with water jet, but I never used it! But what thing you could do it's to use the test plate included in the table's package and see for yourself!
@gabrielhoy6790Ай бұрын
If I may ask, isn't the primary metal used in C-clamps cast iron? I've attempted welding to it with steel and, although it looks good, the iron inevitably snaps off right after the weld (not the weld itself). I'm a little dubious of your homemade clamps @ 4:54 would do little more than snap clean off if you attempted to really wrench down your work (or worse yet, they fail mid-weld from the heat attempting to distort the metal). Please, feel free to comment on my concern.
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Yes, you re absolutly right. Here I m not wrenching like crazy on this thing. So it hold up, for now! A few years ago, on my Smart Busa project, I wanted to modified some VW spindles. I did a test and was able knock right off the welded piece! So for mild duty, it s fine, but for something like a spindle on a car, I won t recommand it at all!
@mrvector257Ай бұрын
I can't afford a fixture table, but I do have an old cast iron table saw. Would be interesting to see how he would make a precise (as possible) fixture table from an old cheap table saw.
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
I kmow Fireball is selling a jig to drill precisly the hole s pattern! It s about a day or 2 of work, depending on the size of the table!
@mrvector257
Ай бұрын
@@VinyB57 Yeah, I saw that. The only problem is the surface of a table saw has a big oval hole that is off-center in both axis to accommodate the saw itself... So the jig they sell doesn't necessarily work for a common table saw.
@fdurocher1850Ай бұрын
Estie de patante à gosse! 🤣Welcome to Qc
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Welcome indeed !😉
@sibosifraiscompagnyАй бұрын
If you have sand your weld like fireball crew probably you result be better!!
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Not sure, cause I over grind my weld and never took mesurments from that area...
@sashababich8279 күн бұрын
What happened with Smart Hayabusa?
@VinyB57
9 күн бұрын
It's sleeping.....I have so many projects going on and not enough time, so I'm sacrificing the Smart Busa and all the fun I had with it! Could you believe I spent 5k$ on wheels and suspension and never use it since! 🤦♂But it will be back! don't know when tho!
@paulblack1811Ай бұрын
Sheet metal power hammer!
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Noted, thanks!
@Marz69181Ай бұрын
Quelle autre tool ? ???
@jtubachАй бұрын
Budget diy mill, for people who want to get started, but don't want to waste money on something terrible that won't work, or something too good they'll never use
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
That's a hard one! A long time agoe, I though about building my own one...but if you don't make it heavy duty, the cut quality will be close to unusable (especialy for machining steel) and in this case, it's better to buy an old milling machine and rebuild it! (Like I did twice 😅) But thanks for the suggestion and it's noted!
@swoonerlgАй бұрын
Build a diy plasma cnc
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Already built one....but I sure could revisit the original design, since I work with it for a few years and it far from perfect! 🤔 Thanks for the suggestion!
@swoonerlg
Ай бұрын
@VinyB57 cool if you do revisit this project. Can you make plan available on your website
@MankyjsJankyjsАй бұрын
All good but laser cut qualiti are fu**ing horible. I know that because i work with cnc laser cuting machine
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
You right, but we still manage to get somewhat precise tables out of this....we're not in the machining world...it,s just to weld fences, stairs and what not! 😅
@forgeperformanceand4x4Ай бұрын
But the part is +0 -1/16 so where you were over 20 It was a fail
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
one side is 20.250 minus 1/16 and the other 20 minus 1/16...width and lenght were not the same
@forgeperformanceand4x4
Ай бұрын
@@VinyB57 nice sorry my mistake. Loving the build though. The swivel angle fences are genius
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
@@forgeperformanceand4x4 Hey no problem...you got me wrorried for a bit! 😅
@alanswanson1952Ай бұрын
I don't doubt fireball tables are good but it can be done with just an ordinary table and clamps. He turned off comments in those videos
@jimysk8er
Ай бұрын
it's the quality of the fireball drawings that's bad and can understandably lead to confusion.
@timderks5960
Ай бұрын
If you're gonna bash somebody, do it for the right reason, not something you made up. Comments on ALL of Fireball Tool's video's have been off for quite a while now, I believe since the "news for 2023" video, where he announced he's stopping with long format videos on YT and putting them on his own website, with just short format videos on YT. Like he said: He doesn't want to be a YT creator, he wants to be a tool designer/inventor. Having to keep up with comments on YT is far from a fun job, so I totally understand why he turned them off. It prevents unfounded comments like yours from spreading like wildfire, like all nonsense news does these days. People are so damn gullible...
@Toolbar2000
Ай бұрын
I am working with a Siegmund table for about 5 years and for sure it's the best investment I 've made in my shop for productivity and precision. Even for a single part is faster than nothing else. And Siegmund tables are made of tool steel, not cast steel like Fireball tables. The surface has some wear, but no marks.
@VowellVentures
Ай бұрын
Totally agree.. I've made flat and square things for work with my carport floor (certain area), clamps, patience and occasional foul language. Might not be dead nuts true, but the pieces fit and didn't rock or cause mis-alignment to the rest of the project! Win in my big! I still would love a good fixture table though!!! 😂
@cowthedestroyer
Ай бұрын
yeah moving all comments to his forum really just takes away all relevant discussion about anything he does and how shit his ideas are sometimes.
@marcusharding4272Ай бұрын
unsubscribed because of your profanity
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
🤣 which one?!
@somewhat7
Ай бұрын
It's actually part of why i keep watching...
@jimysk8erАй бұрын
don't worry. the drawing is full of errors anyways and it would have made perfect sense if you didn't "pass"
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Ok to be frank it was not the best I ever saw! But, appart from the material, everything was there! 😅
@jimysk8er
Ай бұрын
@@VinyB57 the title block was incomplete. The "table" drawings were worse. He should have also specified the nature of the item to the small shops. As far as lawn ornaments go, all the shops did an amazing job. Fabrication is so much easier if you have context.
@jimysk8er
Ай бұрын
@@VinyB57 I'd be happy to mark up the drawing if you promise to read them. The level at which the drawings were made does not suit the level at which the parts were measured. You can't measure to GD&T if you don't use it in the drawing properly. Those drawings would have never been approved to be signed let alone be sent out the door of my current and past employers.
@jimysk8er
Ай бұрын
@@VinyB57 title of drawing is dumb no tolerance table no notes or drawing spec or weld spec 90 deg angle is not well located no weld symbol frame twist callout isn't clear no signatures or names or dates a bunch of fields in the title block should be N/A not just blank no rev BOM probably doesn't need lengths but im not sure about the rules on that stuff, I think it could lead to errors since the actual length of tube is irrelevant so long as the frame fits the criteria superfluous dimensions Grind on one side could be clearer and the leader is weird do not scale drawing but it also gives a tenth scale If they use gd&t the frame twist could be captured more simply with a dimension degree to two decimal points is absurd I don't like that where he wrote 1/16 he didn't add the " no item balloons proprietary info not filled out material no finish weird coordinate thing in the corner stating frame twist can mean many different things, the tubes themselves could be twisted, should have just added a dimension of 2" + - 1/16"
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"If you cant make it perfect-make it adjustable"(this old Tony ). love ur videos viny 👍
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
So true! ..cause pretty much waht I did...😉
Those tools are pretty awesome. If I find a local laser cutting place that doesn't require a life time contract or a 10,000 piece order I may be in touch! Liked and subscibbled for Al Gore's rhythm.
Too bad we can only hit 'thumbs up' once! Great, entertaining videos, with excellent engineering/mfg content. Should be required viewing for college students!
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Heu thanks man for your comment, glad ypu appreciated it! Not sure about the college think..there s a few crunchy jokes in there..😅
Awesome video Viny!!! Your humour is top notch!
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice work Viny B. I Think your weld table is awesome. Just an observation not a criticism of you or Fireball Tools is that you both did not test your material before hand to show that it is in spec before you stared the job weld test . I work with RHS a lot and it's not all the same it .varies length to length. end to end and side to side and then on long lengths it can be twisted. The stresses in RHS are huge. If you cut the side out of a piece say 75x75x3mm 300mm long that side you cut out will bow like a banana and the C shape will close up a mil or two. I recently made a table out of 75x50x3mm RHS mitered the corners using my 6" machine square to square and clamp the corner only to find the out side set to 90* only to find the inside angle was out 2mm over 6" because the miter released some stress on the 75mm faces, they bowed out making it hard to square up. If you take some 100x100x3mm and cut a piece 25mm long off the end you will be very lucky if you can find a right angle on it. Jigs are awesome but you have to take in to account all the variables for the level of perfection you are trying to achieve.
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
you,re right Jim! And just the sheer fact that I used 2 different types of tubing and that they have been already welded in some other project...I didn't really give myself a chance! But that's ok, cause I uselly work will used material and wanted to see how bad the part would have been, it was a test to see if how precise I could build a part but also how to work with the table and what methods I should avoid!
Love the videos! I'd love to see some videos on basic fab work for noobs like me. For example: I'd like to build a front bumper to hold a winch for a Polaris RZR, but there aren't many examples of that on youtube. Thanks and keep up the good work!
Absolutely brilliant video
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Hey thanks, glad you liked it!
I loved the William Shatner school of overacting bit, well done! The table looks like a great option, going to have to consider it.
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
William Shatner...🤣!! Good one...Yes you really should think about getting one!
I love your videos Viny B is the KING!
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Hey thanks, glad you like them! 👍
13:01 theres actually 5 things I would like to see you build for the tractor 1: a rotavator for the PTO 2: a hedge cutter for the front loader 3: a mower attachment for the PTO 4: a four-way bucket for the front loader 5: make it into a half track that is all for now...
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Bro!! These are some cool projects!! 🤯 I started a list and they're noted! Thanks!
@YamahaYZFR6RJ05
Ай бұрын
As a German I support #5.
@DatBoiOrly
Ай бұрын
@@YamahaYZFR6RJ05 yeah personally half track tractors are superior to normal wheeled version especially on a work machine since the only thing it effects is top speed & you ain't going fast on a tractor.
@DatBoiOrly
Ай бұрын
@@VinyB57 no problem buddy I'm just a weirdo that works on heavy agricultural machinery if you need more idea's I'll be sure to let you know, personally if I was going to start on one I would recommend going for the half track one first since that extra traction & surface area is handy when using the tractor on grass (since you don't tear it up) even when using the digger attachment since it gives extra support, also IMO i think if you do it properly like the john deere four track 8rx styled tracks it'll bring In more views since over the past few years there's been a growing interest in converting old tractors into half tracks ;)
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
@@DatBoiOrly OK, I'll think about it..thanks! 👍👍
Excellent video Viny. Glad you went back for that steel as well, I would do the same considering the prices today. Are you racing this year?
I knew you were going in the bin after that “scrap” 😂
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
You know me too well...suspicious..🤭
2 ideas that ive been planning on building but want some inspiration. DIY 2x72 belt sander for as cheap as possible. A unique way to store scrap metal/cutoffs in a small workshop/garage. Maybe a floating honeycomb shelf made from square tubes?
Great job, Viny. A fair portion of building your own table/tooling is gaining experience along the way. And your future projects will be considerably more precise and efficient now. Fireball goods are not for the hobbyist, they are for the professional who understands the need for precision and quality to make repeatable parts with fewer mistakes. The naysayers are obviously not working in a competitive environment where quick correctness is a must to maximize profit.
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
I had to google "naysayers"...😅 But I m 100% with you on this one!
@bobwilson7684
20 күн бұрын
@@VinyB57 man it´s all what youtube is about
As someone whos running out of garage space i always toy with idea of hydraulic press that has a frame you can easily store, and mount in bench vise. Or possibly store on wall and clamp to table when in use.
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Noted, thanks for your suggestion!
I would like to see a post hole auger!
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Noted, thanks!👍
Awesome
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
thanks!👍
Would love to see your shot at a 2x72 belt sander! If you haven't already built one 😁 saying Hi from Quebec Beauce 😁
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Noted! big thanks Charles, got this one a few times and its a pretty good idea! 👍
I went to harbor freight and bought a bunch of cheap F clamps, cut the bottoms off and welded a bolt to the bottom.
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Cool! 👍
As always, very entertaining!
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Hey thanks Galvin! 👌 Don't forget, do multiple mid-project spare renders when editing..😉
@DeathTollRacing
Ай бұрын
@@VinyB57 Roger that!
Perhaps some post-weld heat-treatment might have brought it back into spec? Or heat-straighten it by applying heat in specific spots and then cooling it under stress? I don't think the tech drawing was stopping anyone from doing any of that after weld up. It would just cost more to do so, but it could help reduce the distortions.
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Oh you're right, it should brought back the part, but I wanted to see in a production situation, how bad the part would be....cause to be frank I will never reheat a frame on one of my projects..so at least I know roughly how they will come out of the jig!
Cool Projekt: Portable Sawmill like Woodmizer LT
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
I know I,m gonna build one of these in a few years! Thanks for the suggestion!
Jason 🙏🏼 praying nobody sees this channel 😂😂
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
I don t think he worries a bit!! 😉
@GiantKilla333
Ай бұрын
@@VinyB57 Nah probably not. I'm guessing most of the people who buy his cast iron fixture table are part of a large company and not 2 car garage/ home shops. This laser cut modular fixture table suits more people in my opinion. Way to go!! 👍🏼
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
@@GiantKilla333 BTW...FireBall reply to one of the threads in this comment section...so he knows..but like we said, my product and his are 2 diffenrent things! I m 100% with the big shops owning his tables...more then the homegamer!
@GiantKilla333
Ай бұрын
@@VinyB57 That's awesome that he's watching. Makes sense, both of you are smart as hell and extremely innovative. Before I get any sort of welding/fixture table I need something better than an old 115v Lincoln flux core "handy mig" and a very very old Craftsman 30/230 amp AC stick welder. Probably have to refinance my house and sell a kidney or something 🤣🤣 cheers ✊🏼
What I loved best about the Fireball tool video is that whole point of the video is saying "clamping the piece to a steel table won't stop weld distortion" Then, in the solution to the problem, they say "if you clamp the piece to our steel table, it won't distort when you weld"
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
I think it should help.....like A LOT to clamp the part...it's not pure magic...but it's better then not clamping it!
Good job Viny! Really like this video and you should really have your own TV show....⁉️😜...I were thinking about clamps, how good clamp can I make useing threaded rod, and extending nuts...do you think, Obi Wan...🤔😉
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Not sure about the TV show...😅 I'm english is not as good fir such a task! But thanks Tony
Which one is flatter, your table or tire?
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
The table...I hope!
What order are you welding the corners in? When welding frames I start with all outside corners, then inside. Then the sides, but you still want the welds you just put down to be burning hot when you go to weld the other side so you do have to be quick about getting them done and flipped.
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Random was the order! 😅To be frank, I'm still a noob here! Gonna try your method next time! Out-In-Top then flip! 👌
Plans for a car lift for a home garage high enough to use a creeper to get underneath the car.
@DD-DD-DD
Ай бұрын
There be dragons
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
I already built one (video on my channel)...never sold the plans....to affraid that it kills someone! 😬 But it's noted!
Next tool mayby screw/auger wood chipper with counter knife. You just made perfect table to keep everything squared, so this machine would have a lot of round..ish parts ;)
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
thanks for the suggestion! It's noted! 👍
Do you think this table would be accurately cut on a water jet? Not many laser options in my area
@VinyB57
10 күн бұрын
It's a good question, I heard that somebody had good results with water jet, but I never used it! But what thing you could do it's to use the test plate included in the table's package and see for yourself!
If I may ask, isn't the primary metal used in C-clamps cast iron? I've attempted welding to it with steel and, although it looks good, the iron inevitably snaps off right after the weld (not the weld itself). I'm a little dubious of your homemade clamps @ 4:54 would do little more than snap clean off if you attempted to really wrench down your work (or worse yet, they fail mid-weld from the heat attempting to distort the metal). Please, feel free to comment on my concern.
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Yes, you re absolutly right. Here I m not wrenching like crazy on this thing. So it hold up, for now! A few years ago, on my Smart Busa project, I wanted to modified some VW spindles. I did a test and was able knock right off the welded piece! So for mild duty, it s fine, but for something like a spindle on a car, I won t recommand it at all!
I can't afford a fixture table, but I do have an old cast iron table saw. Would be interesting to see how he would make a precise (as possible) fixture table from an old cheap table saw.
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
I kmow Fireball is selling a jig to drill precisly the hole s pattern! It s about a day or 2 of work, depending on the size of the table!
@mrvector257
Ай бұрын
@@VinyB57 Yeah, I saw that. The only problem is the surface of a table saw has a big oval hole that is off-center in both axis to accommodate the saw itself... So the jig they sell doesn't necessarily work for a common table saw.
Estie de patante à gosse! 🤣Welcome to Qc
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Welcome indeed !😉
If you have sand your weld like fireball crew probably you result be better!!
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Not sure, cause I over grind my weld and never took mesurments from that area...
What happened with Smart Hayabusa?
@VinyB57
9 күн бұрын
It's sleeping.....I have so many projects going on and not enough time, so I'm sacrificing the Smart Busa and all the fun I had with it! Could you believe I spent 5k$ on wheels and suspension and never use it since! 🤦♂But it will be back! don't know when tho!
Sheet metal power hammer!
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Noted, thanks!
Quelle autre tool ? ???
Budget diy mill, for people who want to get started, but don't want to waste money on something terrible that won't work, or something too good they'll never use
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
That's a hard one! A long time agoe, I though about building my own one...but if you don't make it heavy duty, the cut quality will be close to unusable (especialy for machining steel) and in this case, it's better to buy an old milling machine and rebuild it! (Like I did twice 😅) But thanks for the suggestion and it's noted!
Build a diy plasma cnc
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Already built one....but I sure could revisit the original design, since I work with it for a few years and it far from perfect! 🤔 Thanks for the suggestion!
@swoonerlg
Ай бұрын
@VinyB57 cool if you do revisit this project. Can you make plan available on your website
All good but laser cut qualiti are fu**ing horible. I know that because i work with cnc laser cuting machine
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
You right, but we still manage to get somewhat precise tables out of this....we're not in the machining world...it,s just to weld fences, stairs and what not! 😅
But the part is +0 -1/16 so where you were over 20 It was a fail
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
one side is 20.250 minus 1/16 and the other 20 minus 1/16...width and lenght were not the same
@forgeperformanceand4x4
Ай бұрын
@@VinyB57 nice sorry my mistake. Loving the build though. The swivel angle fences are genius
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
@@forgeperformanceand4x4 Hey no problem...you got me wrorried for a bit! 😅
I don't doubt fireball tables are good but it can be done with just an ordinary table and clamps. He turned off comments in those videos
@jimysk8er
Ай бұрын
it's the quality of the fireball drawings that's bad and can understandably lead to confusion.
@timderks5960
Ай бұрын
If you're gonna bash somebody, do it for the right reason, not something you made up. Comments on ALL of Fireball Tool's video's have been off for quite a while now, I believe since the "news for 2023" video, where he announced he's stopping with long format videos on YT and putting them on his own website, with just short format videos on YT. Like he said: He doesn't want to be a YT creator, he wants to be a tool designer/inventor. Having to keep up with comments on YT is far from a fun job, so I totally understand why he turned them off. It prevents unfounded comments like yours from spreading like wildfire, like all nonsense news does these days. People are so damn gullible...
@Toolbar2000
Ай бұрын
I am working with a Siegmund table for about 5 years and for sure it's the best investment I 've made in my shop for productivity and precision. Even for a single part is faster than nothing else. And Siegmund tables are made of tool steel, not cast steel like Fireball tables. The surface has some wear, but no marks.
@VowellVentures
Ай бұрын
Totally agree.. I've made flat and square things for work with my carport floor (certain area), clamps, patience and occasional foul language. Might not be dead nuts true, but the pieces fit and didn't rock or cause mis-alignment to the rest of the project! Win in my big! I still would love a good fixture table though!!! 😂
@cowthedestroyer
Ай бұрын
yeah moving all comments to his forum really just takes away all relevant discussion about anything he does and how shit his ideas are sometimes.
unsubscribed because of your profanity
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
🤣 which one?!
@somewhat7
Ай бұрын
It's actually part of why i keep watching...
don't worry. the drawing is full of errors anyways and it would have made perfect sense if you didn't "pass"
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Ok to be frank it was not the best I ever saw! But, appart from the material, everything was there! 😅
@jimysk8er
Ай бұрын
@@VinyB57 the title block was incomplete. The "table" drawings were worse. He should have also specified the nature of the item to the small shops. As far as lawn ornaments go, all the shops did an amazing job. Fabrication is so much easier if you have context.
@jimysk8er
Ай бұрын
@@VinyB57 I'd be happy to mark up the drawing if you promise to read them. The level at which the drawings were made does not suit the level at which the parts were measured. You can't measure to GD&T if you don't use it in the drawing properly. Those drawings would have never been approved to be signed let alone be sent out the door of my current and past employers.
@jimysk8er
Ай бұрын
@@VinyB57 title of drawing is dumb no tolerance table no notes or drawing spec or weld spec 90 deg angle is not well located no weld symbol frame twist callout isn't clear no signatures or names or dates a bunch of fields in the title block should be N/A not just blank no rev BOM probably doesn't need lengths but im not sure about the rules on that stuff, I think it could lead to errors since the actual length of tube is irrelevant so long as the frame fits the criteria superfluous dimensions Grind on one side could be clearer and the leader is weird do not scale drawing but it also gives a tenth scale If they use gd&t the frame twist could be captured more simply with a dimension degree to two decimal points is absurd I don't like that where he wrote 1/16 he didn't add the " no item balloons proprietary info not filled out material no finish weird coordinate thing in the corner stating frame twist can mean many different things, the tubes themselves could be twisted, should have just added a dimension of 2" + - 1/16"
Viny B, you are my favorite :)
@VinyB57
Ай бұрын
Wow, thanks! 🤙