Looks like the Volvo 240 of pistols: Simple, functional, comfortable, and totally square.

@Payne427

2 жыл бұрын

Haha

@deeacosta2734

2 жыл бұрын

I like! Nice!!! 🇰🇿

@deeacosta2734

2 жыл бұрын

Magazine cutoffs are such an easy function that modern guns should just add on.

@MrPanzerDragoon

2 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha 🤣

@Full_Otto_Bismarck

Жыл бұрын

It's hip to be square.

I possessed two of these pistols in the 1980's. I am writing to explain my ammo experimentation. First, I found out that the .455 Colt Eley will single load, chamber, fire and eject without a problem. This is one use for the magazine cutoff. The rim diameters are close to each other. The .455 Colt Eley fired a 265 gr. bullet at around 650 fps. Second, I was able to load the magazine with 175 gr. .45 ACP match ammo which would feed, chamber, fire and eject. The .45 ACP match ammo had enough power to operate the pistol yet not hurt any parts. The extractor would hold the case against the breech face allowing the firing pin to strike the primer. .45ACP bullets run about .452" in diameter while .455 Webley Auto ammunition ran about .456" in diameter. Accuracy suffered. I also custom loaded this round at that time. I had to remake a lead bullet mould and machine .45 Colt revolver brass. Lastly, I test fired one of these pistols with the recoil spring removed. It fired and ejected without any signs of pressure problems; the recoil spring stop pin held in the slide stopped against the frame without any mushrooming of the pin nor the frame. In the past I would test fire certain locked breech pistols without recoil springs installed. A good pistol design should be able to single fire cartridges without the recoil spring and sustain no damage. My only complaint of this pistol is directed at the soft steel used in construction. If these were made today, one could supply a variety of recoil springs for various loadings and of course use 4140 type steel for the frame and slide.

@Nooziterp1

3 жыл бұрын

I have read that if you tried to fire a round for the automatic in the revolver it would blow the cylinder out as it was somewhat more powerful.

@dougreid2351

Жыл бұрын

Far out! Thanks for sharing! DOUGout

@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017

2 ай бұрын

Did you ever think about making a reproduction model of this gun with better steel?

"Oh no! The Huns!" *click*

@BurningMonkey

7 жыл бұрын

Song in Silence I laughed way too hard at that, and scared coworkers

@antyrabbytmeow5021

7 жыл бұрын

Song in Silence *hello darkness my old friend *

@coitusergosum2447

7 жыл бұрын

Song in Silence Respawn in 5...

@dreamingflurry2729

7 жыл бұрын

*deer in the headlights look* BANG! *Dead!* :D

@hvymtal8566

7 жыл бұрын

Good thing he had 25 riflemen and a lewis gun to cover him, right? Right?....

A vastly underrated pistol that I feel would have served the British forces effectively for many years if it had of been adopted. Thanks again for another great video Ian, I look forward to seeing the next one.

@chrisjones6002

7 жыл бұрын

It was adopted. Watch his other video on it and he explains the details. They ordered around 8k of them with most going to the navy.

I don't think it is all that ugly. It may be a bit blockish, particularly for the day, but one would get use to it's looks like they have another popular blockish pistol.

@Hubert_Cumberdale_

4 жыл бұрын

I like how it looks

@bendynamic2150

3 жыл бұрын

I mean it looks like someone cut off the front of a glock tbf

Man, with so many pistols around the world, why do I find this one so cool and lovable? I want one...

@Gerrygambone

6 жыл бұрын

LOL not just yourself RalpGalland....read the comments.....I WANT ONE TOO

to me this thing looks like the messed up love child of a Luger and a glock

@gregbilotta2472

7 жыл бұрын

You hit it right on the nail with that one. In my eyes, it looks like a box P38 lol

@willkriegforkartoffeln4878

7 жыл бұрын

I honestly think it looks absolutely gorgeous.

@kamelionify

7 жыл бұрын

I agree, I like the looks of it.

@dmperry1974

7 жыл бұрын

Taylor_42 maybe, Walther and Luger love child. Although, it's pretty cool looking pistol.

@nimbly1693

7 жыл бұрын

A Gluger!

Ah, the pistol magazine cutoff. Comes in real handy never!

@Nukle0n

7 жыл бұрын

British weapons doctrine was and still is weird. They still do bayonet charges to this day.

@antyrabbytmeow5021

7 жыл бұрын

Nukleon nothing beats in sheer fear factor than a well executed bayonet charge and a scream birthed from the devil himself

@oiitssean

7 жыл бұрын

Nukleon Considering the SAS successfully captured a position (without casualties) by bayonet charge while under fire recently, I'd say it's less silly than you think...

@qaborg

7 жыл бұрын

Cordelia's Fridge it was the Princess of Wales' Royal Regiment that did the last record charge

@xt6wagon

7 жыл бұрын

on the other hand it was a single cutout on the magazine was the sole "cost" and if they were stamping the magazine shells, then literally no cost at all.

I have to disagree on one point: not ugly, but decidedly British.

@GWR4079

5 жыл бұрын

Cheap guns for war arn't made to look nice they are made to perform.

@vorynrosethorn903

Жыл бұрын

This was designed before the war and a good portion of them were sold on the civilian market.

I picked up ne of the Webly autos about 30 years ago. What was unique about the pistol was that someone had made a complete barrel assembly for it in .45 ACP! It was extremely accurate and functioned perfectly. As I recall, there was never a malfunction. My IPSC buddies and I enjoyed the heck out of shooting hundreds of rounds thru it! Sadly I let someone talk me out of it!

Gun Jesus fighting the Huns with a british pistol from 1913. Life complete.

@robertthomas3777

3 ай бұрын

… gun Jesus… LOL. 🦘🇦🇺👍

Every time I see one of these, I am inclined to build one myself, having missed my opportunity to simply buy one decades ago when many were around and on the market here in the states. I always liked the way it is designed and functions, a very clean barrel movement and lockup.

Really nice handgun. To bad it didn't get to be more popular. Thanks for the great videos on this one.

@cardiffpicker1

5 жыл бұрын

That's because it was good and the British military like to only use guns that are shit so the enemy has a sporting chance.

@wierdalien1

4 жыл бұрын

@@cardiffpicker1 i mean no. But lols.

@caffeinatedinsanity2324

Жыл бұрын

John Browning was earlier in the game. As much as american patriots claim him to be a "self-made man", he actually gained knowledge from working with FN Herstal

The simplicity and elegance of it's mechanical design is magnificent. Beautiful despite it's exterior appearance. That slow-motion is eye-watering. I have no doubt in my mind that this is the better action and would be the better pistol if it was properly adopted and received further development.

@BryanJohnson4891

Жыл бұрын

It had a downwards-diagonal locking barrel and probably one of the only effective recoil mitigation systems in any old pistol. No fancy frizzy German “Look at my 135 degree handle that extends from my arm like a wimpy flower” - NO! This gun was given to British officer trained in boxing, and if you punch it toward the enemy the sights line up.

Someone should make this pistol great again !

I always thought the 12 o clock ejection port probably made the slide easier to machine. The fieldstrip is really good too, as are the ballistics. Definitely an underrated pistol. An autoloading carbine in 455 auto would be interesting too. Great video as always. Thank you

now imagine squads of trench raiders with these instead of revolvers or rifles

It looks like a 1910's Glock

@CommodoreFan64

7 жыл бұрын

Agreed, ugly but effective.

@TheRogueWolf

7 жыл бұрын

The purpose of a firearm is not to impress the enemy. That's the bullet's job.

@iwontdieofdeath

7 жыл бұрын

I was actually just talking about the square housing... But yeah that works too!

@boomerdimmig5648

7 жыл бұрын

The Rogue Wolf That is an amazing quote😂

RNAS aircrew had them in WW1. Lovely pistol for its time.

"Oh no, the Huns!"

@morsletum5348

7 жыл бұрын

And then they found out that they are closely related to the "huns".

@davidcassidy602

7 жыл бұрын

More like, "All Hands, Repel Boarders!" This is a mostly naval-adopted pistol, if I recall correctly.

There's something really satisfying about the lack of slide bounce on this gun, makes it seem very sturdy like I imagine all guns are before i see them in high-speed.

Is it ugly... Yes! Is it modern, no! Is it cool... Hell yeah! I kinda want one... Could be without the cut-off, but it is such a distinct gun!

@srspower

5 жыл бұрын

I really don't think it is ugly, I like the way it looks.

@GWR4079

5 жыл бұрын

To be honest it was very modern when designed for its time, it was just a basic boxy structure to make it easier to be manufactured with stamp presses

Brilliant work! Keep it up!

My Grand father had a pair of these British Pistols, he traded If I remember right, a US .30 Cal Carbine and several bottles of " Apple Brandy, he made, Distilled, and I think a small amount of cash, I fired the pistols many times when I was a youngster, he carried one of them in a Brown Leather British Army Holster when ever we went hunting, fishing, or just out picking up pecans, that was in the early 1970s in East Texas, I saw him shoot several Feral Hogs with his British Automatic, it knocked them down for sure easily, he bought several wooden boxes, crates, of Ammo for them I remember he kept the Ammo in a pantry type storage Cabinet, He also had a pair of Webley Revolvers, from WW1 , and 3 Martini Henry Rifles Single Shot they had the old socket bayonets with them, these old rifles had been converted to British .303 Cal in the early 1900s These are the rifles he Deer Hunted with for 30 or 40 years, when he passed away he left my Dad all his Guns and ammo, I always liked those British Auto Pistols, they never gave my Grand dad or us any problems, fast forward 40 years and now I own all of those Guns, Yep and I still shoot those old British Auto pistols to this day. Great Pistols.

I do so envy you, I absolutely love shooting vintage firearms. I always had a policy, back when I was a gun dealer/collector; I would never have a gun in my collection, or for sale that I had not taken to the range for some testing and playing. Well there was one exception, a fellow sold me an old muzzle loading flintlock that he had tried to build from a kit many years ago. I undid all his mistakes, polished up the barrel and action to a high polish, then took it to our next bluing session, where I ran her through the tanks. I stripped the gunk he had put on the stock and put a high sheen oil finish on her, replaced the home built rubber (from a tube of make a gasket he told me) with a brass butt-plate and finished the brass trigger guard that still had casting marks on it, down to a military brass sheen then finished it with spray lacquer When she was finished she was, in deed a beauty of a flintlock, but I had not black powder or ball and didn't see any sense in buying it to fire that one, although I have since regretting not doing so. The fellow who sold it to me came to my table at the next gun show and paid me 3X what I had given him for the basket case, he was so happy he nearly cried, I think he would have had his native American blood stopped him from such actions.

Oh no! *T h e H u n s !*

@jackvernian7779

7 жыл бұрын

H U N S

Thanks Mike and AH for letting us see this gun up close and in action;

As a Brit, loving all the British content at the moment. Thanks Ian. On another (related) subject anyone else watch movies to shout out the guns. British movie called Hot Fuzz which apart from being a great movie and cast has some great firearms in.

@petearundel166

6 жыл бұрын

Yep. It's not often you see a Steyr-Solothurn on the streets of Britain . . .

@TheArgieH

5 жыл бұрын

@@petearundel166 What do you mean you've a licence for "this one" ?

Parts are so simple. I like that.

That is a Glock at the back and a P38 at the front

I just watched the earlier video before this. I strongly suspected that it would be a pleasure to shoot due to the size of the slide and its mass. I was impressed by two or three of the design elements. The simplicity of disassembly. The fact there is no loose parts that are small when you Field strip it. The ballistics of the round look good. I would love to see this reproduced with better modern materials and chambered in a 45 ACP. I would definitely buy one. I also appreciate the fact that it is top ejecting.

"It's a lot easier if you are properly British and right-handed." I guess that means left-handed British people are not proper.

@rickansell661

7 жыл бұрын

Insert a 'trained' somewhere in there and the statement is correct. You solve the difficulty by training your left handers to shoot right. Its what various militaries have done for centuries (consider the problem of the occasional firer using the left shoulder in the serried ranks of the 'Thin Red Line'). And not just militaries - my dad uses his 'off' right hand to write because thats how he was forced to do it in school.

@DaveLennonCopeland

7 жыл бұрын

Rick Ansell - Yes, "trained" fits in just nicely... I'm left handed (like Ian), but am also a bit right handed in this right handed world.

@Tipi_Dan

6 жыл бұрын

Ineffective if you are left-handed and left-eyed.

@TheWolfsnack

5 жыл бұрын

hmmnn.....or like me, left eye dominant right handed....

@cardiffpicker1

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheWolfsnack same here , I shoot pistol right handed , rifle either handed although I'm slightly better left handed and bows are always left handed.

0:20 when you see someone stealing your tea.

From the side as you were shooting , it looked like a P38

Love it, thanks for a great video for my Birthday morning coffee, I turned 66 today, workers comp declared me "presumed retired!" and cut my salary in half, how wonderful of them, thanks North Dakota! Social Security sent me a letter and said, I am no longer eligible for the ticket to work program, damn and here I thought I would go looking for a job that didn't mind my high dose narcotic use (legal of course!) but then said their contribution to my income would, of course stay the exact same other then I am no longer classed as permanently disabled, but retired! Oh what a glorious day to retire. Must go now and see my doctor, all part of becoming an old fart of course, but I could not have asked for a better video to celebrate with, thanks a million! I would really love to have one of those to sit between my Astra A100 and Citadel M1911A1 (conceal carry model)

@rogersmith9808

4 жыл бұрын

I always wanted an A-100. Seemed like a WAYYYY underrated and slick pistol for it's day.

the recoil reminds alot of a walther p1 or a walther p38 with plus P stuff

In the late 60's I got my hands on one of those. Ammo was not available so I tried my luck with military issue .45 ACP. It ran like a charm. It was to unwieldy and uncomfortable to carry, so we cleaned, oiled it and put it away.

At the 0:27 second mark we see an example of degraded ammunition. The hammer falls, rebounds then falls back and only then does the round discharge. That is some scary old ammunition you need to pull the bullets on, dump the powder, discharge the primers them reload with new primers and powder to make it safe.

I have always like the way these guns looked almost steam punk like.

Great hand gun, looking forward to hearing more from you.

Wow filmed on my birthday many moons ago, whilst I was still making my winter quarters in Topock AZ! I might be a bit strange on this point, however I have always loved the look of that particular pistol, now I know that I would have loved to have had one in my collection as well, back when I had the money to buy and trade firearms. Ah for the good old days. A couple of firearms I wished I had in my collection would include this fine weapon and the Swedish Lahti, the Former STOP, and the Browning High Power. I did have a S&W Model 59 for some time and I guess that was close to a High Power but still not the same. Oh and I still kick myself for turning down a trade for one of the original Automag pistols in .44 Automag with magazines, loading dies and two boxes of ammo. At the time I thought, what the hell would I do with something like that, not a great duty gun. Could have had it for $300 bucks as the guy was desperate to sell yet I sat on the sideline and drooled but failed to move. Wish I had my Luger back to, as well as several other fine firearms I had from time to time. And my Dan Wesson Pistol Pack in .357 Mag with 3 barrels, in the DW case. Ah well now all I have is Dad's .22 and my old duty gun as well as the mandatory M1911A1, God knows I will be buried with that gun.

i love the way the slide goes back when you fire it

Yes, this pistol REALLY should had done better then it did. I wounder if it would be feasible to recreate in my workshop....I have been having fun with some old firearm designs in the last few years, ha.

@Gerrygambone

6 жыл бұрын

Someone should get in touch with Webley and link them to this...I think there is a market for this hand gun

@tarmaque

6 жыл бұрын

If you could scale this down about 10%, make it in .357 Sig, and give it ambidextrous controls, I'll buy one.

I think it looks gorgeous

VERY cool!! Would love to own one of those!!

I enjoy your videos immensely. Thank you.

Thanks for the demo.It did appear to be relatively mild recoiling.

I think this is another example of the guys buying the equipment not actually having to use it, or even speaking to someone who does. With a rifle at normal rifle ranges, you at least have time to single load a round with the magazine cutoff on, but with a handgun with a cutoff at normal handgun ranges, even a guy with a stick has an advantage on you if you miss with the first round.

As a child I always thought the pistols in "Thunderbirds" looked fake and janky but I'm pretty sure they were Webley 1913's now, thanks for clearing that up Ian.

"boop"

That thing is just too cool. Nice job Ian.

Great video Ian! This would be the perfect sidearm for survival.

I love to watch your shows on different firearms me I'm over the pond in England so we can't have anything like this you guys in good old USA are so lucky

Sounds so nice with every shot.

I had a 1917 & '18 Colt M1911. The '17 in exceptional condition. I have a '13 Webley Mk. I. .455 Auto.. I sold the two Colts years ago and still own the Webley. I won't list my preferences, but I must mention one biggie, the Webley was/is more accurate, grouped much tighter. I was very disappointed with how much the Colts "shot around".

*A hat collection video would be interesting.* *Maybe you already have a second channel that I'm not aware of called Forgotten Hats :D*

Worth mentioning (Courtesy of TFB) that the Webley's were the first automatics where the chamber acts as the locking lugs, so in its day really cool.

I've noticed how much you've mentioned how easy it is to trip the grip safety on this and maybe one or two other featured guns and I had an observation/opinion on grip safeties in general. I know it's an important thing to have a pistol grip safety that is easy to trip by gripping the pistol, but I've yet to meet the pistol with a grip safety that I had trouble doing that with. I've handled a fair few different types of pistols with grip safeties and never had a problem tripping it with a normal firing grip. I see all of the 'modern' 1911 variants with fancy grip safeties that do an excellent job of protecting your hand from the hammer and provide more surface area to soften the recoil, and most of those have a built up bump to 'make it easier to actuate the grip safety'. I've never seen much point to those bumps, as I have no trouble with 'old fashioned' grip safeties (other than a few with slightly sharp corners in a few spots that pinch under recoil). I've never been able to find a way to grip a 1911 in a reasonable firing grip and not actuate the grip safety. The only way I've been able to fail to trip the grip safety is to hold the pistol so loosely that it would fall out of my hand if I managed to fire it and probably sustain some kind of nasty hand injury.

wow, I really like the report for some reason

nice , its not ugly to me because it says Webley. as a young lad i had a few Webley air pistils and rifles , its nice to see the heritage and nice to know they were good ( obviously im English, no proper guns here )

Ta muchly, Ian. From visual teasers over on C&R, I suspect Othias and Mae could be planning to do one of their thorough historical, design, and shooting analyses on this beastie.

Nice - just what I was asking for yesterday! Kudos to you Ian and now: FIRE! :) I disagree: I don't think it's ugly :) - in fact it reminds me of a Luger with the exposed barrel etc. :)

Wow, I am impressed how silent this pistol is.

"Oh no, the Haunze!" *pushed magazine in,pull slide and malfs* im dead

Nice gun there Ian.

"Properly British" XD

Some interesting info on the pistol slide.

The cutoff system was kind of a goofy requirement, but props to Webley for making it work so well.

I think it´s beautiful...

I was hoping for a shooting video of this! but now I want to see someone modernise it and make the British answer to the modern 1911

Love how it looks like the guns from a Gerry Anderson series

that is one of the coolest pistols ever

Aesthetics is the last condition to owning a firearm. Functionality over form.

2:46 boop

Nice video + gun

The world was not built for us southpaws.

@mauimudpup

4 жыл бұрын

nope, and of course I own this pistol. cz 85b someday

Looks amazing! I want one ❤️😂

Please tell me you chrono'd some of this. All the books say 224gn at 700fps or 770fps. Now I want one.

@neutronalchemist3241

7 жыл бұрын

Judging from the sound, it seems to be substantially subsonic, not only barely subsonic.I bet the books are right.

Yes I too go along with the P38 look..... and I like the P38 so I like this as well or better.

That 'box' look was something of a house style for Webley.

That "If you are properly British" just made my day!

This is one of those guns that looked small in the catalogs (A lot of Gun's Digest growing up) without something to scale them to in the picture. Something about the proportions, and shape just looks like a compact, until you see it in someone's hand. Maybe because it's a .45, and the large grip safety makes the receiver, and barrel look smaller by comparison? (With other listings in the Gun Values catalog)

A small number of 1911 Colt's were made for the RAF in this Caliber, unless it was a later model Webley Semiautomatic issued to them in world war two. Have seen these marked RAF .455 Webley.

Seems like it actually has some lock time, At least in the video it sure makes it look like it.

I think it looks good, as like, seriously functional.

Sweet hat bro

I can only imagine the line of thought that made somebody in the British army think a mag cutoff in a pistol to be a good idea.

Hank would have liked the single round feature when he was about to be axed by the Salamanca brother.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.....

i always thought it was beautiful and futuristic looking.

Saguaro cacti in the background? People, I hope you realize what we've got here. This is rare footage of a young British officer that for some unknown reason is attached to the American Punitive Expedition into Mexico, circa 1916, colorized.

I notice a bit of a hang-fire on that first shot, is this common with older ammunition?

@ForgottenWeapons

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah.

@Plymouth888

7 жыл бұрын

Hadrodon Hash it is a chemical inevitably, moisture absorbed from the atmosphere, the components for the primer dissociate. It's one of those things.

I think this magazine cutoff would be neat in a desert eagle. They’re really easy to single load given their wide open breech

The Royal Flying Corps used a small number of these pistols in the days before forward firing machine guns. Were they equipped with stocks.

The pistol is cool and all but I want that sweet service dress cap you're wearing.

@ForgottenWeapons

7 жыл бұрын

WhatPriceGlory.com

it should be nicknamed the cutoff to make it a little more popular

ya know, the reason i started building firearms as opposed to buying firearms is my very large hands. if you got big hands, there's not a lot of pistols out there that feel really good. that scott and webley looks like it can do the job quite nicely.

It looks like a pistol you'd see in a Tintin cartoon.

I only just noticed you're left handed. it would be really nice for our southpaw brethren if you could include lefty information on future videos. I have almost no experience with older firearms, however, many of the new ones are not conducive to left handed shooting. in my experience, the palm of my hand presses the mag release, thus jamming the gun after the first shot. this sort of information would be helpful to left handers interested in purchasing antique firearms. I hope you see this. please upvote if you're a lefty

The shots from this sounded remarkably quiet. Was that just an effect of the video's audio-mixing, or have you noticed anything in this regard in person?