🔴 Webb mirrors are aligned! kzread.info/dash/bejne/d2GksLVunaerqLQ.html

@esecallum

2 жыл бұрын

1/2 wits at NASA dragging out deployment while WEBB is being bombarded by rocks.they could have taken 20 million pictures but the morons are just dragging it out...THEY HAVE LOST THE CHANCE TO TAKE any pictures while mirrors were intact. they should be fired.

@ezekielbrockmann114

2 жыл бұрын

Please explain to me how this is an "okay thing." It's only been open for a couple of months, why can we not extrapolate this to a constant degradation? It seems like a huge design flaw. Hubble's mirrors are encased.

I was real worried about Webb until you mentioned the mirror with bullet holes only losing 1% of its capacity.

@TheActionBastard

2 жыл бұрын

right? "oh. bullets dont stop it? well then... not so much an issue as I thought..."

@N73B60

2 жыл бұрын

Actually less than 1%. 107 inches to 106 inches it's about -0,93%

@airtightbox

2 жыл бұрын

Safelite can patch up that while you are on your lunch break.

@georgevantuyl5837

2 жыл бұрын

Unless that 1% is the exact point that you are observing. So there have been 5 total impacts since JWST has been in place and operational. Or a better way of linking at it. The JWST is averaging one impact a month, for now. I see the JWST as being positioned in a shooting gallery. I personally do not see the JWST as viable after two years. I am being realistic not hopeful. In a year at this rate the JWST will see at a minimum 12 impacts. I do not believe the JWST was designed with this high of an impact rate.

@gautambuddha5018

2 жыл бұрын

It's possible Aliens fire with bullet on JWST

Thank you SO much for not resorting to a terrible click bait title like "JAMES WEBB HIT! - IS THE MISSIONS SCRUBBED!??!" I really appreciate it

Keep these great videos coming!

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you David!!!

Launchpad is such an good space channel, probably my fav.

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

@rouxdoux5323

2 жыл бұрын

It’s my fav too!

I loved this video not only for the great explanation of the issue, but because of the "DON'T PANIC" printed in big, friendly letters in the title. 👍

I'm a somewhat recent subscriber. This channel has great production value and your delivery is on point. Congrats and thanks!

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, and I’m happy to have you along for the ride!

omg the last fact about the telescope that got shot at that’s soo crazy but also so impressive how they manage to work despite the damage

Finally a channel that brings information without making the title/thumbnail seem dramatic, subbed

An honest thumbnail and title is refreshing.

I love the redundancy that has to be added to space missions. Makes me think about real life sometimes

@temerodiavolo470

2 жыл бұрын

Elaborate

@ericmelton4186

2 жыл бұрын

@@temerodiavolo470 obviously of a good idea is good then it should (after it has been proven good) be placed in a frame of calculus. In calculus they even try to figure out what’s going on in places that they don’t even really care about. Maybe math is more fundamental than we thought.

If image quality is expected to degrade over time, does that mean they’ve front-loaded the most important observations for early in the scope’s life, or at least those requiring most sensitivity?

@transformsupportedaccommod553

2 жыл бұрын

Seems so. Waste of hype and money to me.

@NoNameAtAll2

2 жыл бұрын

@@transformsupportedaccommod553 they hyped "watching early universe" from the very start

@MaRkYWaHoO

2 жыл бұрын

Space time is totally different than earth time….that thing will be crystal clear for lifetimes

@zacharybraverman4870

2 жыл бұрын

@@MaRkYWaHoO Smoke some more of whatever you got it appears pretty good.

Thanks again Christian for your clear explanation. As always I look forward to your updates.👍

Thanks Christian. Hope your situation with your back is better.

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

I'm feeling much better, thanks!

@PRODIGY5369

2 жыл бұрын

@@LaunchPadAstronomy very glad to hear it!

with all the over exeaggerated clickbait headlines und thumbnails one would have thought webb was utterly destroyed. this is such a rarity. calm, collected accurate and thorough reporting. basically anti clickbaiting with a killer thumbnail on top :D

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate it, thanks 🙏

This channel deserves more subscribers. You guys explain the details eloquently and go straight to the point. Don’t stop making such quality content

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much 😊

The debris is smaller than a grain of sand which still left a permanent damage. Now Imagine other micrometeorites/debris that will hit JWST in the span of its lifetime. And it will withstand many of them. The engineering of JWST is remarkable.

@georgevantuyl5837

2 жыл бұрын

You should look at this from a ballistics standpoint. The entry wound is always much smaller than the internal damage and or the exit wound.

@jomon723

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Big waste of money and time

@JCO2002

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, you hope it will withstand many of them. Whether it will or not remains to be seen.

The Hubble Space Telescope has a two inch hole drilled through its main mirror. During the mirror's manufacture a tiny imperfection in the glass was discovered that could have started a crack that could have eventually spread across the entire mirror surface. Drilling the hole eliminated the imperfection so that it couldn't develop into a crack. The light gathering ability of the telescope was reduced somewhat but Hubble had sufficient extra capability designed in and has performed extraordinarily well for 30 years.

@preds43

2 жыл бұрын

So...basically... Webb is more than just fine.

@joevignolor4u949

2 жыл бұрын

@@preds43 Yes. A lot of what you've been hearing about the mirror being smashed by a huge space rock is just over-sensationalized fake news.

okay, best channel i've seen so far covering this news

Bravo Christian. So many YT channels have been hyperbolically exaggerating the impact of the err impact which,of course and somewhat ironically,reflects badly on their image. I knew you wd stay cool and resolve to stay focussed on the big picture.

@joevignolor4u949

2 жыл бұрын

I've noticed the same thing. One report said that the main mirror was hit by a "space rock" that "smashed" into it. Another report showed a rifle bullet being shot through the mirror.

10:44 Nice reference there. 😂😂

I already watched coverage about this, but I had to support this video for having a thoroughly non-gotcha title and thumbnail. Well done sir.

I have never stopped being amazed at this technology. Love your channel!

Thumbnail is gold

Great explanation, thanks!

Great description! Subscribed!

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks and welcome!

Thank you so much for this explanation. This channel and Everyday Astronaut are the best space channels on KZread.

@Grak70

2 жыл бұрын

I forgot Astrum. The trifecta of space science videos!

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

I'm honored to be mentioned in the same paragraph as those channels. Thank you!

Can’t wait for the first pictures!!

What a great explanation, it really eased my concerns on this impact, thank you!

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

I’m so glad it helped!

Can't wait for the stream!!!

Was hoping you would do a video about this incident. Thank you for this ;-)

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoyed it!

Best astronomy channel, period.

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

greatest thumbnail ever!!

Much respect fo all the ones worked to this project. It's immense, the applied ingenuity.

@jomon723

2 жыл бұрын

and wasted so much money...Thank you again

I like your video quite better than the take of Anton petrov on the same topic that was a bit too misleading in title and thumbnail to my liking. Good job

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Really glad you enjoyed it! Anton does good stuff but I confess I haven't seen his video yet. Will take a look.

@thegreatwatercow2.014

2 жыл бұрын

IMO Fraser Cain didn't do a great job explaining the situation either, particularly when he kept flashing a graphic with the C3 segment covered with huge cracks. Talk about misleading! I found Dr. Becky's video to be one of the better ones. And this video is the best so far.

Sorry, I'm still panicking. Tiny sand grains, small(ish) telescope, BIIIIG space, it all spells disaster to me. I got a tiny tiny scuff on my watch glass after 8 months and I'm still in grief-stricken denial, so I can't imagine what you guys must be feeling. And while I'm here - 10:43 loved the StarWars reference.😀

@jomon723

2 жыл бұрын

They knew this was going to happen

@kernicterus1233

2 жыл бұрын

@@jomon723 I know, and I am feeling a bit better about it now. I'm taking every day as it comes, baby steps, my counsellor is happy with my progress. I just hope the 'next' scratch happens a long time from now.

Thank you.

I've been waiting for your video on the topic (micrometeoroid impact). Launch Pad Astronomy is a bright start of popular science 🤩

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Really dig your channel brother. Your video's are always so well done and you clearly do your research and keep lazer focus on the topic. Nice change from all the others making quick lame click bait video's. Also LOVE the thumbnail on this. Hilariously accurate.

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, I really appreciate it!

GOSH.....'LPA'.... you do Such a GREAT Job in explaining JWST, I'm close to becoming a ' Patreon ' going to be using this vid as part of my explanation during Our " Hosting Party " in Downey, CA. Great Work and narration.

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate it!

Panic? No way. I've got my towel and my copy of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Now there's a guy who really knows where his towel is.

Looking forward to the live stream on July 12! :)

You are superb. Congrts

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏

Omg this tech is so mindblowing I can't stop commenting ahahah wow science is beautiful I wish I somehow got to see the JWST in person before it got launched

@VivekAnandJ

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. I keep thinking how ridiculous that this isn't the big news every morning?

@geemanbmw

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure there's a replica somewhere or will be 🤷🏻‍♂️

I love this channel

Saw This A Few Days Ago On NASA’s Site😢But,Expect Those Things To Happen,They Hit The ISS,and Hubble..You Just Said It Too,lol..Still All Good And Ready To Start Poppin Out Images,Thank You Christian,Have A Great Rest Of Your Sunday,Stay Safe,and God Bless❤️🙏🏻✨🌏🔭

2:47 wow that test impact photo scares me

I knew about the accident but I did not about the damage. Your explanation healed my anxiety. Thanks Christian.

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad it helped :)

That thumbnail is incredible

I approve of the Monty Python reference in the thumbnail.

I’ll definitely stay curious 🧐

Glad you did the video, the net gets so much hyperbolic and curaizee these days you go from MISSION FAILURE, to alien trying to destroy the telescope conspiracies. Peopel ahve no idea the amount of crap its floating out there so the chances of getting hit by a big one are really small. I think the best comparison is tiny hole cracks in eyeglasses, you can still see through them no problem, hell crack them and you can still see no problem unless it really begins to shatter.

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I figured I'd do my little part to stay in reality :)

CHRISTIAN!!!! JWST and I have a lot in common!!! We both will age gracefully, although I have a head start!!! Awesome video as always!!! CHEERS my friend!!!

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, my friend!

I just heard about this on Reddit.

I feel like a bad human. With all the sad news in the news over the years I’m pretty numb to it. But when I woke up and read JWT was hit by something. My heart sank. I was gutted.

Love the Monte Python thumbnail! 😄

@jakethomason5495

2 жыл бұрын

less lovable if you consider the reference.

mirror shatters? no formless reflections this time! As ever Christian you've left me hungry for the next instalment, my thanks for expanding my brain.

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Pete. Our crack team of engineers are hard at work right now getting everything just exactly perfect :)

👍 just for the thumbnail

Lil rock in space: - waits 4 billion years - 2021: - JWST launches - Lil rock in space: "My time to shine!"

When the guy shot the mirror and it went from 107" to 106" don't think that it just "lost an inch" sqrt(107^2-106^2) = ~14.6 square inches lost from those bullet holes, apparently.

So if a mirror segment gets off-pointed in order to remove its contribution, it's still going to be pointed at SOMETHING. Would they continually re-point it so that for every target, that mirror segment points toward something dark? Or would they just defocus it?

And things are still going smoothly :)

I reckon they noticed some new diffraction effect on very bright objects from the edge of the impact site. Given JWST is looking at dim things, I reckon that diffraction artifact will be below the noise floor

A disgruntled employee/astronomer in the USA in the 50’s or ages ago shot his rifle into the primary mirror of a pretty large telescope at an observatory MANY TIMES. the mirror had chunks taken out of it. So the plans was swept up and the telescope is still used today and it’s perfectly ok.

It can't be too bad, since they don't even know the day it happened.

Launch Pad Astronomy ❤️👏

Something new to ponder over if the "Oversized Webb", Luvoir telescope, ever gets launched. With a gigantic mirror, it will be a sitting duck for impacts.

If the particle hit with high speed, the fact if dust accumulates or disperses at L2 is pretty unimportant to the particular case, right? It had to have come from afar and probably did not get disturbed much by gravity around L2 would be my intuition.

LIGO, the gravity wave detector got its first detection after only three days into its operational phase. Since then, it doesn’t detect black hole/neutron star collisions EVERY 3 days. Too much is being made about this event.

This makes me sad. Hopefully we still get some good pics.

One would think they thought of this... Or is this like that scene in "Those who wish me dead" movie, where lightning strikes the firewatcher and ruins the tower as if it was the first lightning to ever have occurred on the entirety of the planet?

@AttilaTheHun333333

2 жыл бұрын

did you even watch the video?

"A scratch? Your mirror's dented."

I love Monty Python. Nice reference.

I love the modernization of the "tis but a scratch" meme! Rather enjoy the settle humor

"Stanley, the Alien kids from down the wormhole are throwing rocks again!"

It feels like as if your favorite child who is in a far away prestigious boarding school has been hurt there. Now You know the kid is gonna be ok but still you are heart broken to hear that your child was hurt.

OK, camera is complicated. But couldn´t the add a few microphones to the structure? Maybe they so could monitor the area of the impact and even the severity?(not only for the mirror)

As a geologist, I consider "sand" as particles between 62.5microns to 2mm (0.0025in to 0.079in). If one was to assume spheres of density 2.5g/cm3, and only vary the particle size while keeping the velocity constant (for the sake of a "back of the envelope" experiment), it's a pretty big range of kinetic energy.

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's pretty nasty out there.

@cerealport2726

2 жыл бұрын

@@LaunchPadAstronomy I don't think "ouch" would quite cover it if hit by something...

That bit about the observatory in Texas should be mentioned a lot more, given the relevance to JWST..

After years of waiting it would be pretty frustrating if it got disabled

@SquirrelASMR

2 жыл бұрын

I was literally expecting this, like ironically as a joke. Poor telescope had so much bad luck, I'm surprised it didn't blow up in the launch. I've been excited for this telescope for too long, I'd cry if it died.

@geemanbmw

2 жыл бұрын

it never had bad luck it had setbacks. Getting hit by a meteor larger than expected is bad luck... stay +

@NothingSussed

2 жыл бұрын

@@geemanbmw they dropped it 2 days before launch

I knew this was gonna happen anytime soon

I saw a few channels discuss this and, frankly, it was good coverage. But I was totally waiting for the LAUNCH PAD ASTRONOMY scoop on the matter (lame matter joke attempt). This channel never disappoints and is the most thorough by far. You get a gold star (lame stellar joke attempt ).

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

You're so very kind, thank you!

C3 also has an arm bar across its face for the sensory camera mounted above all the mirror segments; i am really glad webb is o.k. and soldiering on. I have the first image as my desktop wallpaper, cannot wait to get some real colors going on july 12~

@executivesteps

2 жыл бұрын

What are the “real” colors in infra red? 😎

@jonnytechno2662

2 жыл бұрын

@@executivesteps spectrum.

How about fuel tanks? Even if they self-seal, could they take a 2mm hit at 5km/s? Also, could you tell us how they detect hits to non-optical segments?

Top Notch Thumbnail

glad that didn't change much

Wait, JWST is a shape shifter? Spooky action at a distance.

Waiting for this vid..

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy it.

Definitely the best space & science channel in KZread!! Very Informative and the explanation is easy to understand. Keep up the great work 👍 🌕☀️🪐🌙🌖

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Brandon!

What if A5 was impacted instead? Would that have been worse? If I could have chosen which mirror would have been hit it would’ve been the one that was just by looking at the beast of a telescope

There is a typo at 9:50, difference in meters would be around 2.72m -> 2.69m

@LaunchPadAstronomy

2 жыл бұрын

Duh…yes I duz maths. Thanks for catching that!

I'm still really sad that we'll never see the James Webb at its full potential, even though I know it can perform its job fine going forward.

@esecallum

2 жыл бұрын

thickos at NASA dragging out deployment while WEBB is being bombarded by rocks.they could have taken 20 million pictures but the morons are just dragging it out...THEY HAVE LOST THE CHANCE TO TAKE any pictures while mirrors were intact. they should be fired.

Trapipist 1 is what I want 2 know about from JW telescope. It's time to get some news

10:45 Thank you Palpatine.

Very interesting. I'm interested to know if the space station and astronauts are also effected by Micrometeoroids?

@bristlethistle7456

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, micromedioroids hit spacewalking astronauts at an average of one impact per day with a fatality rate of about 21%. It's unfortunate, but a necessary sacrifice to keep our dreams of real life Halo alive.

@AttilaTheHun333333

2 жыл бұрын

@@bristlethistle7456 That’s a bunch of bs.

Just a question… if a protective cover had been included, there is no way whatsoever to bleed off the heat being trapped by it?? I feel like that wouldn’t be a hard obstacle to overcome, yet perhaps I’m being naive.

@h.dejong2531

2 жыл бұрын

There are good reasons not to enclose the telescope. 1. You'd need a rigid enclosure consisting of two layers (a Whipple shield). This would add a lot of complexity: it would have to unfold along with the telescope. 2. The telescope is limited by the available payload and volume. Adding a heavy enclosure means the mirror would have had to be smaller. 3. An enclosure would increase the temperature by making it more difficult to radiate away the heat, making the telescope less sensitive. We've operated telescopes without an enclosure before: Herschel has a 3.5 m unprotected mirror. A 3.5 m mirror with enclosure is about the limit of what fits on current rockets. A mirror that small is too small for the science goals of JWST, making the mission pointless.

Amazing work, able to create a mirror with abilities to cancel out impacted areas and re-create then bond the image again as if it was never impacted? Correct if wrong but damn, this some some:

@JCO2002

2 жыл бұрын

It can't cancel out impacted areas, other than moving the entire segment so that it no longer points at the secondary. They'll just work with slightly degraded data until it becomes necessary.

There is a camera on it... it did make that photo of it selfs back a couple of months, remember?

I wonder if future telescopes will have micro meteoroid shields.

I'm concerned that they may have miscalculated how frequently debris are going to hit the telescope, seeing the first impact and the mission has hardly started. I hope my concern is unfounded.

@h.dejong2531

2 жыл бұрын

This meteoroid is a statistical outlier. We've had spacecraft at Lagrange points for decades, including one with an unprotected mirror (Herschel), so we have a decent basis for statistical models. What we don't have is a complete map of all meteoroids down to sub-mm sizes, so statistical modelling is the best method we have for predicting impact frequency.

@Garthinyus

2 жыл бұрын

@@h.dejong2531 I appreciate the work that has gone into trying to understand and mitigate the risk. When most of what we can see in the universe is either very close to us and big or far away and self illuminated, statistical studies don't give me a ton of faith in what the future may hold. I'm very excited to see what is discovered using this new tool! I hope it has a full service life! On a side note, I always wonder when they talk about dark matter, how many dark "solar" systems there are where the would be star never gained enough mass to self illuminate. It would be funny if there were many more dark systems than illuminated ones, but we just can't see them.