I keep coming back to this. Mike loades is brilliant. It's a great story.

@mbb05jb

3 жыл бұрын

agreed, what a great broadcaster

@colinstewart1432

2 жыл бұрын

It's no mean feat to present to camera, while riding a horse, while firing a bow.

Mike Loades is a fucking legend. He needs to be allowed to make more of his own TV programmes as his enthusiasm is contagious.

@TheZaderach

7 жыл бұрын

Stephen Keeler Agreed!

@christopheclugston

7 жыл бұрын

Other than his archery method is completely wrong.

@1stcaptainraldoron538

7 жыл бұрын

Have you ever used a longbow mate? There's nothing wrong with his method, that's how you fire an English longbow. You can;t even bring it to full draw when you're trying to shoot straight forward, nor does the strain allow you to take the time to aim down the shaft for very long.

@nickmee4617

2 ай бұрын

Yep!

Good to see people are still practicing the Longbow. and good illustration of what happened during that time.

There are two extra factors to consider. They were used by the English in the Portuguese wars against Spain (they were helping the Portuguese). Longbows were quick to cover and remove the string, in case of rain. The crossbows couldn't. Spaniard crossbows went limp in the battle of Aljubarrota, their strings too wet to proper use. The second factor, that many ignore... are hounds - They are hell against cavalry. (I remember one picture, a long time ago, from a history book. The hounds were protected with a chest plate that had a long spike at the top, and a hole where burning coal was placed. Don't know if it was to make the hound mad, or to spread coal on impact, or both. It was scary).

How awesome is that guy! Mike Loades...no soft pommie there!

English and Welsh archers were STAGGERINGLY strong. Any guy (sorry, ladies) who THINKS he's tough enough should try and draw 150-200 lbs - five to six times a minute !

@bluebow68

5 жыл бұрын

Especially when the average height of a man would be about 5 feet1-2 inches..

@marvinc999

5 жыл бұрын

@@bluebow68 "the average height of a man." Funny you should mention that ! I've just been delving into the magnificent _Blood Red Roses_ - about the findings from the Battle of Towton (1461) mass grave. Fascinating - but scary stuff................... From that 'sample' itself, the average age-at-death was 29.2 years (with a high-ish Standard Deviation of 9.25). As to stature, it would _seem_ to be something of a myth that men of this period were - on average - THAT much shorter than today (either as soldiers, or in the population as a whole): somewhere around 5' 6" to 5' 7". Bearing in mind that a 'longbow' should be roughly a hand-span taller than the archer (when unstrung, I imagine ?), this would account for all those 6-foot bows we tend to hear about. I suspect that a six-foot ARCHER would be no means as rare as many of us have been led to believe - but even so, those bows found on the Mary Rose seem EXCEPTIONALLY long, in relation to earlier estimates of a 'typical' longbow's length. As always, diet (and thus good/bad harvests over time) would have much to do with it - and so you'd expect the better-fed aristocracy to be somewhat taller. Edward I was reckoned to be 6' 2", Richard the Lionheart between that and 6', while the little-known Edward IV - the first 'Yorkist' King - was (appropriately) 6' 4". The certainties about such matters remain frustratingly elusive, I fear ! But that's part of the fun of learning History, isn't it ?

@bluebow68

5 жыл бұрын

@@marvinc999 Hi..i'm in admiration of your searchings..I merely work on old buildings at times....decoration/stained glass..(an archer..).I'm always fascinated by old discoveries...But consistently the doorways height is so often low enough for me to crouch a little upon entry..I'm a little over 5'8"..without footwear..Skeletons couldn't hide the facts,taken the bone shrinkage over time etc..And diet would have certainly played a large part in height..Little amino's in foods;/meat..at least for the peasants..minimal water intake..dairy products.....I am of a mind that if the Nordics played a part of Britains DNA..since their invasions not so long before Crecy for instance..They seemed to be known to be a very tall race..I understand the Welsh were a formidable archery force,(Ash wood I believe..?)and being half Welsh myself,i find even now they're not renowned for being a tall race..I'm dumfounded at peoples short sojourn back then..equally so of the stature of the Aristocracy..I do remind folk if the occasion arises that Henry VIII wasn't so rotund,saving the fact that to give the impression of was to express wealth..I wish you great discoveries on your path and a very happy and prosperous 2019..

@DaytonaStation

5 жыл бұрын

I have tried with 130 and it wore me out

@tonyoliver2167

5 жыл бұрын

@@marvinc999 in fact people's height, in England in particular around the 1300s in London was around five foot nine. And this is absolute average. People's height in the middle ages would have been much more varied in the sense you would have had more short people and perhaps more taller people with the average being in the middle somewhere... Of course now we have medicine to make people grow better or to stop pituitary problems, so I'm guessing in the middle ages it would have been much less widespread.

Excellent documentary, thanks for posting it :)

Highly interesting ! I will soon be speaking about the longbow before English learning elderly french people like me and needing information about the making , using of the weapon and the appropriate english words , Thanks for the info and the passion !

@cityandsuburb

6 жыл бұрын

Youenn I'm glad that we are now close European cousins Youenn.... (Both endangered species....!!)

@Thepourdeuxchanson

4 жыл бұрын

You are a very good writer of English!

Great video

I hope this never dies out, I have a bow but I haven't yet found a class to go to.

@jeffridley2564

5 жыл бұрын

a class? lol. all you need is a bale of hay

@bluebow68

5 жыл бұрын

I am an archery coach..

@chroma6947

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffridley2564 The joys of living in england is that you cant find a town without an archery club

Fascinating doccie. My only crit is that I would have liked to have seen tests with the recurve bow. Otherwise excellent.

Great doc, thanks for uploading!

@TheZaderach

7 жыл бұрын

Ben Lewis you are most welcome.

Imagine being at war n watching your enemies kill each other

When the archers were loosing there arrows upon the French armoured knights, their breastplates weren't stationary, as in the air cannon test. Rather, they were moving towards the English at full charge. Wouldn't that increase the penetrating power of the arrow?

I tried a 50lb bow at Cabela's one day. Then a 30lb bow. I'm glad that I trained with rifles.

@tonyoliver2167

5 жыл бұрын

Still learning with a 120lb. Seems like a lifetime

@jimathybindlenim6359

3 жыл бұрын

I've spent some some time in the gym now I fire a 60lb bow daily

@chroma6947

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimathybindlenim6359 Good job mate, most longbows were in the range of 70-100lb in its prime so your almost there take it easy

So rare to have someone present well who can also really do all this stuff. Brilliant doc.

I like mike he is so entheuastic ,enthueastic ,oh shit passionate

He appears to be using a one piece arrow instead of having 8" [20cm] of oak immediately behind the arrow head which was a more rigid and a heavier mass when used with a bodkin head which gave a better piercing ability.

What weight were the arrows? We have the arrow speed (52 m/s or 170fps) but we don't have the arrow weight to calculate the Joules of energy produced.

Dude at 32:00 minutes: What kind of low draw-weight is the longbow? He is drawing it with seemingly now effort and not even to full draw length. This would do nothing against (plate) armour. The longbowmen would be more exhausting then this, he had to use his whole body "leaning into the bow" for drawing it. This shooting depicted looks like Legolas LOTR fantasy.

Love this old film.

THANK U GARE

@cityandsuburb

6 жыл бұрын

Gary Chynne Wonderful to see your seal of approval Mr. Chynne.....!! It tells me that this document warrants further perusal...

Brilliant, thank you. Cleared up a few questions I had.

I agree with @Tim Hare. Mike Loades - i respect him but he as you said underestimates longbow - in this particular case i would use word warbow rather than longbow and tries to replicate it on machine which is not a bow at all and its not on battlefield rage. Also bows used in video didn't have more than 80 pounds draw weight and bows from Mary Rose have draw weight over 100 - biggest approx 180 which is fu*king mindblowing. Also it really depends on type of used arrowhead whether or not is hardened. Platecutter or generally broad bodkin is not good against cuir bouilli here is better long niddle bodkin for instance or bodkin with cutting edges like tudor/towton bodkin. Also quality of armor was different and we can't replicate armor from 13th-14th century. If longbows weren't effective why would be here continuous improvement in forking arrowheads and new type of arrowheads was being created (example is war of the roses where was used different arrowheads in compare with Crécy or Poitiers). Have a nice day brothers in arms ;) Ask Jaro Petrina if you want detailed explanation. He is genius and has totally massive knowledge about medieval archery. He is student of Chris Boyton as well (Rest in peace Chris).

I was in texas a few days ago for a long bow conference and as many years as I have been shooting bows something stood out a rogue shooter fired in a wrong direction his mistake fortunate no one was killed however the 21 inch arrow slammed into the ground inches from my foot ! The thump it made stood the hairs up on my neck 😳 can you imagine thousands of these little bastards screaming down out of the sky at you? If even one hits your leg your done , out of the fight! And trust me everyone of us was ru ming for cover screaming ceasefire ceasefire lmao!!!! I would imagine the fear of being impelled by an arrow was the same in the 12th century as it most certainly is today!

@bluebow68

5 жыл бұрын

That was a very short arrow at 21 inches!..That was my draw well over 40 years ago as a young teenager!..More like a 28-30inches..But a rogue archers arrow flying in the air heading for a crowd of people is nothing short of a killing missile..That 'conference' organising body ought have some security and health and safety procedure in place in future..Clowns..

@DaytonaStation

2 жыл бұрын

you should never allow stupid people near weaponry this is an old army principle

long may the long bow reign in England

Wasn't it a law that a farmer had to put in several hours practice per week?

The archer actually spelled the end of chivalry. At the battle of Argencour the English took so many prisoners that there was a real worry that there would not be enough reserves to guard them. The reason they took prisoners was that they were held for ransom. This was what motivates the other barons and Earls ect. to go to war with the king. Because of this they did not want to kill their prisoners. The king broke with tradition and ordered the common archers, who had no stake in remaining prisoners, to cut the throats of the prisoners. That was the end of chivilary. The battle conditions were terrible. Mud and a crowded field prevented the effective cavalry. So the armored French knight simply fell and stuck to the mud unable to move.

@tomashize

3 жыл бұрын

Agincourt was about 80 years after Crecy and the French nobility still didn't seem to have come to terms with the long bow. Amazing really!

@projectilequestion

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomashize The French totally came to terms with the longbow.... then forgot, then remembered again. Your understanding is extremely simplified.

21:15 for The Falchion/Wakefield/Archer’s Sword that Tod made, for anyone else like me that came looking for it!

RIP Chris Boyton.

@terryleddra1973

5 жыл бұрын

Kev, shame to have read that comment. I met Chris about twenty years ago, found him to be very knowledgeable and thorough gent.

he is good at what he does

@lorddiethorn

3 жыл бұрын

He is nuts but you got to love him

7500 archers each with a single sheaf of arrows would be 180,000 arrows. At Crecy the British would have had to have roughly 3 million arrows available. Fletching was a major industry.

@wyno9991

5 жыл бұрын

not a good time to be a chicken eh?

@bluebow68

5 жыл бұрын

@@wyno9991 ..Or even a turkey..

@joshuaa2780

5 жыл бұрын

Actually it was a goose...

what was the name of the cannon?

Isn't it STILL on the Statute Books that every man is supposed to practice Archery on a Sunday ... also, it's STILL legal to kill by an arrow, a Welshman, in the precincts of York Minster

I think you under estimated the effect of the arrows when you showed the outlines of the mounted knights because if the English archer missed the knight he was aiming at he would probably hit the knight next to him and vice versa. So the pin cushion you showed with the close knight would still have been replicated at longer range by the archers hitting the knight next to the knight he aimed at, so I think you would still get almost as many hits per knight at long range as you would get at close range.

I really like these history videos,they should be shown in our schools. However, the word 'herse' does NOT come from the French for hedgehog, ie hérisson, it comes from a type of spiked harrow used by farmers at the time. "Le terme « harcèlement » est d’ailleurs issu du Latin hirpex, à l’origine du mot herse, instrument d’agriculture munie de grosses pointes qui écorchent la terre." Hérisson comes from the Latin 'ericius'.

Only 900’s kids remember 😩😩😩💯💯🍆🍆

@Lo-tf6qt

5 жыл бұрын

*1415 kids

@UkuleleAversion

5 жыл бұрын

Crassus was alright, Pompey was the asshole. Fuck Pompey

Thanks. Got at least 30% extra draw.

7,500 archer's how many arrows is that to be properly equipped??

@1stcaptainraldoron538

4 жыл бұрын

Assuming they all had the standard two quivers of 24 arrows, then around 360,000.

2:20 Some things never change then.

Just a couple of things, The longbow dates back to antiquity and the Egyptions. Bows of 6'2" have been found at Viking burial sites. The Vikings morphed into the Normans who used long and short bows at Hastings. The Normans become French who also used a 6 foot bow during the 'Le Guerre cent ans" made from Italian yew although their war bow was square cut and not round as retained it's spring longer. The English and Welsh take turns at claiming the bow as their own but wasn't the bow that made history it was the incredible system of citizen archers and the logistic miracle of keeping them supplied with ammo hence the broad arrow on military equipment today. Oh, and they did not fire into the air Hollywood style as the arrow just bleeds energy and two hundred metres would not penetrate a Jupon with chain let alone plate armour which cannot be pierced at even ten metres.

If I were an archer, my thinking would have been: I don't have to kill the knight if I can kill his horse.

In the opening shoot ( :-) ), though, longbow was not used on horseback. Otherwise, a bloody great youtube video.

@nathandurbin9260

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it was it was not common though.

Talk about DEWs and burning houses

You kill the horse, it will significantly slow down the knight. Plus, if the arrow strike dents steal, in all likelihood it would unhorse the knight.

@colinstewart1432

4 ай бұрын

There was a deliberate tactic of shooting the horse out from under the knight. Then people would rush forward with swords or spears. Many were taken prisoner for ransom. The rest were gutted where they lay...🤔

they didnt shoot up into the air in the french paintings, historic accounts

The english longbow was outclassed by the french cannon.

@daryld4457

4 жыл бұрын

And the French cannon was completely outclassed by the English cannon during the Seven Year and Napoleonic wars. Lol lol Vivre that, you collaborating wanker.

@3vimages471

4 жыл бұрын

@@daryld4457 Not true ….. Napoleon was a master of deploying his canon and he called them his daughters. From the time he was a Corporal, it was his use of the canon so effectively that made the little fella. Bonnie was way past his best and sick at Waterloo but his cannon were still a desperate threat. Luckily the heavy mud on the day made it much harder to manoeuvre the canon. I am a Brit and a huge fan of Wellington …. especially keeping the Guards Brigades hidden then used with such devastating effect against Napoleon's Old Guard. But you have to give credit where it is due. The French were never just 'cheese eating, surrender monkeys'.

Don't you have to add the forward velocity of an opposing horse rider to the force of the arrow. Like 2 cars crashing?

The French should have denied Edward his positioning by just riding 10 miles around and hitting them from the other side, it would have delayed the battle and the English scouts would have never allowed the nglish to be taken by surprise, but at least the French would have been on better ground. One of the most important rules is to never do what the enemy wants.... I'm sure hubris on the French side on account of their superior numbers played a major part in their loss though.

Excellent documentary what’s his name the presenter

@colinstewart1432

4 ай бұрын

Mike Loades. He knows loads about medieval warfare

Absolutely fantastic video and a great test as well. But I will add knights would not have worn "munition grade" armour. Knights were nobles....comparatively incredibly wealthy in contrast to the levies, militias and the common man. They would have almost exclusively worn higher quality armour. The "average" armour of a knight would be much better than this tested armour. We have many museum pieces of armour from this period to reference as well, the more recent test done on Tod's Workshop channel with Dr Tobius Capwell is more indicative of a Kights Breastplate. But this test is still very relevent. This type of armour is what the lesser soldiers could afford and it demonstrates at close range that arrows fired from a higher-end powered warbow would definitely be effective. Therefore how did this weapon defeat knights if it's unlikely to penetrate their quality plate? Well No armour 100% fully encompasses a soldier with plates. There are many gaps. Armpits, visors, elbow and knee joints, often cuisses (thigh armour) do not wrap around the back to protect the hamstring etc. When you have 5000 archers unloading 5-10 arrows a minute in the opening moments of a battle that is 25,000-5,0000 arrows literally raining down on the knights. If 1/100 arrows cause a "lucky shot" striking an unplated area we now have 250-500 knights injured, incapacitated or dead from arrows that bypassed their armour in just 1 minute. This is also where the draw weight of the bow does matter. Even though these weak spots are not covered in plate, the knight would often have gambeson or a combination of Gameson and mail in these unprotected places. These are still good armours that will slow down an arrow if not defeat them completely. A higher draw weight bow will have a better chance to penetrate deeper when these inevitable lucky shots do occur resulting in a higher chance of either lethal depth or incapacitating depth compared to lower draw weight bows. So draw weight and power 100% matters. Ppl also forget that English archers were trained in Melee. It is well documented from both sides, that at the battle of Agincourt the archers spent all their arrows then drew their sidearms and joined the melee with the English Knights and Men-at-arms. If the Bow was this Knight killing plate destroying weapon as modern-day myths suggest then the battle at Agincourt specifically would have been over without the Archers needing to join the melee. But accounts of the battle tell that the Archers did as much if not more damage to the French in Melee as they did with their bows This was the real power of the English Archers. They were multi-faceted well-trained soldiers...not just archers. It's why they were so effective on the battlefield.

Weren't the longbow men Welsh ?

@theenglishman9596

5 жыл бұрын

NO! stop being a common stupid ignorant peasant

@jamied4106

5 жыл бұрын

They were. Anyone who says otherwise is an ignorant Englishman

@jestpassinthru9915

5 жыл бұрын

There was only 300 Welsh over 90% were English.

I understood the longbow was originally the Welsh longbow not English?

@jamied4106

5 жыл бұрын

Most of the archers at argincourt we're Welsh levvies... But the English don't like to mention that it was our weapon and us that mastered it

@davidharrison6615

5 жыл бұрын

Jamie Davies welsh design but very underpowered . the English made it the powerful weapon it became .

@jamied4106

5 жыл бұрын

@@davidharrison6615 source?

@davidharrison6615

5 жыл бұрын

Jamie Davies history books , welsh bows only drew at 50 or less . no good for killing men .

@jamied4106

5 жыл бұрын

@@davidharrison6615 Just because the English adapted it, doesn't make it English. The car was invented by a German but made accessible to the masses by Ford in the US. Does that make it American? No.

Punching through armor was not the aim of English bowmen, despite this gentleman’s overly dramatic presentations.

@FyremaelGlittersparkle

5 жыл бұрын

If I were an archer back then I'd figure a horse is a lot larger and easier to hit than a man, and will act unpredictably when injured. So damn the man, aim for the horse. A knight off his horse won't be able to bring the lance to bear against you in a charge and is nothing more than an armored infantryman. Softer spots or openings in armor are all good and well if you can hit them, but the real power behind a knight in a charge is the mount under him. Take that out of the equation and the field, so to speak, gets levelled fast.

@gwtpictgwtpict4214

5 жыл бұрын

Jack Cordial In a battle like Crecy, or Agincourt, you weren't aiming at a man, you were aiming at the french army to break up the charge. Once that was a bunch of injured blokes staggering through a field of dead and wounded horses (they're quite big) the English men-at-arms, assisted by the archers, piled in and kicked the shit out of you. They were disciplined enough that they'd pull back and reform before the next wave (hampered by charging through the casualties of the previous waves) turned up. Rinse and repeat. The English were massively helped by the French failure to see it wasn't working.

Santiago !!!!

@colinstewart1432

4 ай бұрын

Saint James!

People like this dard to find now the knowledge will be lost our children will not learn of this what a shame

7,000 archers, and how many were Welsh mercenaries? This fact always escapes your descriptions! Also, the war bow was being used against the Normans by the Welsh was it not? Give credit where it's due!

can you handle a 150# warbow and shoot 60 arrows man you had to be strong and have endurance.

@gwtpictgwtpict4214

5 жыл бұрын

You'd been training to do it since you were a child, there were laws requiring you to do so.

Loades...of....arrows😊

punch through armour or not it would break arib and knock you on your back or of a horse . I woild not like to be on the receiving end of a thousand a second !

@Master...deBater

5 жыл бұрын

No...the force of an arrow would not knock you off your horse. Nor would it break a rib...unless it got through the armor.

@davidharrison6615

5 жыл бұрын

MASTER deBATER. go sit on a horse and try it . I guarantee you would be on your back no problem .

@Master...deBater

5 жыл бұрын

@@davidharrison6615: Bullshit...arrows rely on penetration to kill...not impact you dolt!!! Rifle bullets impact with many times the energy of a war arrow...and even they don't have the energy to physically knock you off your horse!!!

@davidharrison6615

5 жыл бұрын

MASTER deBATER. ok . fly in the face of every other expert . you even own a bow ? your boring me now . go away .

@Master...deBater

5 жыл бұрын

@@davidharrison6615: I've owned upwards of ten bows...and have made one out of Pacific Yew. Please provide a link to even ONE "expert" who claims that an arrow has enough energy to physically knock a man off of a horse...or break a rib through armor without penetrating...because that claim is preposterous!!!

The target would have been the horses to dismount the knights. Then what?

@jimmehjimjim4810

5 жыл бұрын

As a general rule i believe most archers carried “bollock” daggers and once a knight was dismounted and in thick mud / off his feet he was pretty much immobile and the horrid fate that awaited were numerous archers working their way through the field inserting the dagger in between the gaps in the knights armour between the legs and hips and thrusting upwards

@pault1964

5 жыл бұрын

Using axes and mulls

@TheMan-je5xq

4 жыл бұрын

Jimmeh Jim Jim a knight in armor can get up despite what some people think but as you say in thick mud and a possible arrow wound in one of the armor gaps that’s a little different

longbow is crusader warriors weapon

That's point,the horse at 500kg would be coming towards the archers at 35 miles per hour.So the velocity would be different than into a stationary target

@colinstewart1432

4 ай бұрын

Yes. It's called the Closing Speed. It's also used to model the physics of road traffic accidents.

He underestimates the strength of the English longbowmen and the Penetrating ability of their arrows from yew bows. Excavations of the Mary rose yielded bows 6ft6" in length requiring monstrous strength to fire. Skeletons of the archers reveal the extra bone density and muscle structure these longbowmen possessed, honed since childhood. I doubt his machine reflected the true strength and therefore the penetrating ability of the bodkin arrows against Plate armour.

@snakes3425

7 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind in addition to a lifetime of practice the Longbowmen were aiming for weak spots in the armor such as the visor, and the joints, they were also aiming for the unprotected spots on the horse (for a mounted knight) to either kill or frighten the horse so it would throw its' rider and once an armored knight was down, it was increadibly difficult to get back up

@GrugSmesh

7 жыл бұрын

It's still easy to stand back up while wearing full plate harness.

@1stcaptainraldoron538

7 жыл бұрын

Not when you've got wave after wave of arrows raining down on you. Soon enough one of them is bound to hit a soft spot.

@snakes3425

6 жыл бұрын

Also don't forget at Agincourt the Knights that fell in the mud were also trampled by their own men

@1stcaptainraldoron538

6 жыл бұрын

Also there is the fact that even if they don't penetrate plate fully, they can still provide several solid concussive blow to the head one after the other.

Technically its the welsh long bow

@lorddiethorn

3 жыл бұрын

It’s technically the welsh warbow

@monglianland3410

Жыл бұрын

@@lorddiethorn which is technically a self bow

Why do people keep inventing fire arrows, any one who's ever shot any bow is screaming inside right now. They're about as real as horny vikings

@SomeGuy-qh6rw

5 жыл бұрын

Actually they are quite real. Just not for what he is using it for. They were typically used to test the range of your arrow. Only a few would be fired before the start of the battle, to help judge when you should start firing. Because any give day, depending on wind, and the likes, your range could be much different. They were on fire, obviously, so you could better see them. As obviously it is pretty difficult to see a shaft traveling at those speeds.

@marvinc999

5 жыл бұрын

Anton Metubby - "They're about as real as horny vikings" No - they're somewhat MORE real, I'm afraid: *Fire Arrows* kzread.info/dash/bejne/p4Bo2NConKbdfKw.html Fire arrows were NOT invented by the Victorians, it seems......................................

@davidharrison6615

5 жыл бұрын

Anton Metubby vikings can be very horny , very rude bunch given the chance !

i'm here because of Bannerlord.

Клим Жуков

2:04 Hey, very beautiful crops. It would be very bad if something happened to them. I think you should pay me, not that other guys, or else things mayl happen.

no use ..... arrow was not shot from a bow

Of course, that's exactly how to get your archers killed. at 20 meters the knight will be on you about 3 seconds, so you'd probably never even get a second shot off before being ground to a red, bloody pulp. They were used as LONG range weapons, volleyed by the thousands, and bouncing all over and thru weak points in the armor. You would think an "expert" would know this....

@haroldnations

5 жыл бұрын

and of course he's got it backwards about crossbows: they may be expensive but extremely EASY to use, so you'd hardly need a trained mercernary....if you can afford to arm your troops, you could teach any peasant to use a crossbow in an afternoon. Of course, real mounted knights would have taken twice as long, 80 seconds, given the weight of the armor of the men AND horse. It's doubtful that any French cavalry got within 50 yards, at the very closest. So, 6000 English longbowmen firing roughly 15 arrows a minute gives you about 1500 a SECOND falling on the French, so aiming is clearly secondary firing into a mass of cavalry.

@BradBrassman

5 жыл бұрын

And the arrows were fired at a steep angle, which fell like rain adding a heavier fall and penetration. The most accurate depiction of this effect in modern times is in Henry V the Lawrence Oliver version, i'd guess.

@kg4zmf

5 жыл бұрын

Should have had Robert Hardy as the presenter. Apart from being a great actor, his books on the English longbow are among the best ever written on the subject. I seldom care for the opinions of actors on anything except their art, but Mr Hardy's opinions on longbows are one of the rare exceptions to that rule.

🙄🙄🙄

Longbow, the gun of the people who are afraid to fight one on one , english or hidden behind the archers :) :)

@alistairprice2837

4 жыл бұрын

Fool.. so what are people that hide in steel armour or ride on a horse ?

@chroma6947

3 жыл бұрын

@@alistairprice2837 He would probably die from a punch from an english archer. ahahhaa

Thanks #freeTommy

I thought the arrowhead that was used with great armor piercing ability, in this battle, was the long bodkin, NOT the short field point shown all through this show, n`est-c pas? The long bodkin, was effective at 300 yards against heavy plate, but instead we were never shown that in action, even though it was the arrowhead used by the English. If this is so, like the comparison of the Japanese bow vs. a long bow at a third or less it's full power, the entire comparison and testing in the lab and the field, is pointless, and we are mislead by unasked for editing, by the producers and the host. Mike Loades I do not like sitting through what is, in my opinion, a historically fraudulent 45 -60 minute show, where the facts are deliberately left out, and the conclusion is false!

@gmonkey6523

5 жыл бұрын

You are right the bodkin was devastating. Some say a few units of archers with bodkin would have been amazing even so late as Waterloo if used.

My ancestry. Schuetz Family History Schuetz Name Meaning German (Schütz): occupational name for an archer, Middle High German schütze (from Middle High German schützen ‘to guard or protect’), or alternatively an occupational name for a watchman, from the same word in its original sense, ‘guard’, i.e. the warden of a piece of common land or a night watchman in a town. Jewish (Ashkenazic): ornamental name from German Schütze ‘archer’, ‘rifleman’. Compare 1.

Oh but they just HAVE to show a girl!!!

Most of the archers in the English armies were actually Welsh mercenaries, Agincourt, Cressie and banockburn, Welsh mercenaries! Once again the arrogance, or ignorance of an englishman! At Agincourt, the archers intended to bring down the horses, the Knights were trampled by the riders following, who met the same fate. Really, this clown should read his history books, we were taught this in the fifties in primary school!

@theenglishman9596

5 жыл бұрын

No you are incorrect, there was a large force from the county of Cheshire, they were the best archers at the time.

@marvinc999

5 жыл бұрын

TheBeaumarisEcho - "Most of the archers in the English armies were actually Welsh mercenaries" PURE MYTH, I'm afraid !! There were - according to the Muster Rolls - no more that around 400 Welsh archers at Agincourt. The VAST majority - well over 90% were ENGLISH !!!! And, of course, this resembles the MYTH that the Welsh formed the majority of the contingent at Rorke's Drift in 1873. Once again - 'fraid not: they formed no more than around 15% of the whole contingent. No disrespect to those brave lads.......................but Truth is Truth (and there's NO need for the Wicked English to distort it) !!

@davidharrison6615

5 жыл бұрын

TheBeaumarisEcho never let a fact get in the way of a good story taff !!!!!!

@PolluxA

5 жыл бұрын

At Crécy 1346 The English had 651 knights 2000 Esquires 109 mounted crossbowmen 194 Hobelars/archers (“de servito”) 362 Hobelars/archers (men from the cities) 2163 Mounted archers from the retinues 4740 Foot archers from English counties (including 4 Milenars, 46 Centenars, 234 Vintenars) 2290 Welsh foot archers (including 2 Milenars, 22 Centenars and 114 Vintenars) 2290 Welsh Spearmen 451 Gun crews, clerks, engineers, blacksmiths, carpenter etc. That is a total of 9749 archers. 2290 Welsh archers is 23.5 %, less than 1/4.

odd that this has nothing to do with reality or history

@TheShredworthy

5 жыл бұрын

What do you mean?

@jtzoonie2552

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheShredworthy we have a situation where Britain is involved in illagle wars and selling weponds to bomb and kill other people and the parliment lies to the people, i fail to find anypoint where the uk gov has been honest with the electorate in 30 years

@jtzoonie2552

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheShredworthy olviver cromwell disbanded the uk parliment because they were a threat to the british people

@jtzoonie2552

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheShredworthy here is what he said..It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice. Ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government. Ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money. Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? Is there one vice you do not possess? Ye have no more religion than my horse. Gold is your God. Which of you have not bartered your conscience for bribes? Is there a man amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth? Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defiled this sacred place, and turned the Lord's temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices? Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation. You were deputed here by the people to get grievances redressed, are yourselves become the greatest grievance. Your country therefore calls upon me to cleanse this Augean stable, by putting a final period to your iniquitous proceedings in this House; and which by God's help, and the strength he has given me, I am now come to do. I command ye therefore, upon the peril of your lives, to depart immediately out of this place. Go, get you out! Make haste! Ye venal slaves be gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors. In the name of God, go!.

@jtzoonie2552

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheShredworthy sorry wrong channel same period though, so sorry

Mughal composite bow is more effective than this long bow

@Mtrl-newer

6 жыл бұрын

please don't hurt these poor europeans.

@stevedjurovich194

5 жыл бұрын

Who cares....

@theenglishman9596

5 жыл бұрын

#sudem, you moron where they at the battle of Agincourt, no you pillock so what is your ignorant remark meant to say.

@LuKaZz420

5 жыл бұрын

Didn't help you lot when the English made you your bitches.

@projectilequestion

5 жыл бұрын

And the Indian Nationalists are here.....

Crowd dynamics now challenges the primacy of the Longbow at Argincourt. There were too many armoured (read : weighty) French in too confined a space, in what soon became a quagmire. Not ideal for the French, but quite the opposite for light bowmen who took up their blades for coup de main administration. The English army, it's been said from records from the campaign, was 7,000, of which 5,000 were archers. The archery number not so much from their prowess, but out of financial constraint: a bowman-skirmisher was more affordable to supply a king than a man-at-arms. How was the Longbow in defiance of the oppressor, when it was the English abroad, in this case, who had it? Were the French oppressing the English across the channel, somehow? At twenty metres, the archers would be manning pikes and swords against the oncoming foe. The tone is self-congratulatory, rather than of earnest inquiry. It's for the Americans, this video? Or chip-munching fools on sofas 'well done England'. Still barbarian compared to France, after all these years?

@jeperstone

5 жыл бұрын

Still hurts doesn't it? 😁

@Rustsamurai1

5 жыл бұрын

@@jeperstone having wasted time with bogus historical accounts from an armchair enthusiast with an unwarranted sense of authority in the matter? If that's what you mean, then the answer could be 'no, it doesn't hurt'.

Sorry chaps, but a Longbow as told to us here did not loose off at 140mph. A 175lb Longbow would only manage 146 ftps (99.4mps) or 99.54:mph: average 25" draw using a 1.6oz arrow roughly 45:Jules of energy at the bow, dropping to less than one third of this (the Inverse Square Law) at the target at maximum effective range of 120 yards (110m). Just saying, using mathematics, not including windage and moisture.

The bows were given to the Brits as part of Lend Lease from the USA!

@JohnMacbeth

6 жыл бұрын

Your whole country is on lend lease from the British..

@MrLimborace

6 жыл бұрын

No Son, now kneel before my Yankee Doddle Warhead!

@cityandsuburb

6 жыл бұрын

'SOLD TO'....SOLD TO....

@tomaszlosinski875

6 жыл бұрын

I don't get it. Is it a joke?

Shame Mike's gone from recognising the skill of the archers and their effectiveness on the battlefield to years later trashing them in a video with his lefty tv historian mate in an attempt to rewrite history to fit in with the shameless trend of hating everything British.

More and more I read about bows, I learned only one thing about the longbow: IT SUCKS! We've been worshiping this false idol for too long! Silly video games and bias shows fooled us all! Talking about range, we either have the Turkish bow, or the infamous Korean's Gakgung using Pyeonjeon. Talking about power, the Mongolian recurve bow is there sitting in the corner. Talking about efficiency, Korean Gakgung or Japanese Yumi won't deform your body as much. ... I understand most of us're triggered by this cold hard truth, but the truth is still the truth. However, all that characteristics it doesn't have, it makes up by simplicity: The longbow can be made fairly easier. (I once made a big one with 3 heated-and-curved PVC pipe ribs + a cable) Easier to make = shjtload amount of longbows => more longbowmen + more time to train with ==> More tactics can be used and flexible moves added. And I bet we're all more interested in the tactics than in the bow. Despite its suck, it's still the one that made Britain. No hatred on either longbow or British by any means as they gotta make do with what material they had, plus longbowmen were known for their excellent skill, just that: The Longbow made Britain, but gave them any better bows and we would be all speaking English by now.

"On the continent the English were seen as the dregs of humanity".... .nothing changes. EU members have already accepted the UK is leaving and are already getting on without us. The UK is cut adrift . Not a good place to bargain from out there mid-Atlantic.

@willspencer8694

6 жыл бұрын

Gribbo9999 just have to invade them fuckers again

@theenglishman9596

5 жыл бұрын

gribbo fuck off you anti British racist shit bag, We the British brought civilisation to the known world, not your kraut friends who are still in the nazi ideology. The British sacrificed the flower of England twice in one century protect all of Europe and what is the thanks we receive from all Europe a dirty stab in the back for all our sacrifices

@pault1964

5 жыл бұрын

They will soon run out of our money

Another video glorifying the Longbow. Did you know that English archers were largely wiped out by French heavy cavalry at the Battle of Patay (1429) ? Did you know that the French field artillery won the Hundred Years War ?

They shot the horses & then stuck a dagger into the downed knights eyes or other vulnerable areas.