Let's not kid ourselves. At the end of our life someone driving a vehicle will be getting a phone call and we will also be put in the back and taken away..

@GorgyPorgy65

2 ай бұрын

Hopefully when we fall over and struggling to get back on our feet, we won't have him put a bolt in our brain ?

@mariemccann5895

2 ай бұрын

@@GorgyPorgy65 That's what they do in UK care homes.

@ddhqj2023

Ай бұрын

But in the meantime, we have personal agency, can do what we chose to do, go where we chose to go and there are laws to protect our lives and well being to the highest extent possible. And we are generally speaking, cared for in our old age to enable us to end our lives peacefully, with as little pain as possible and our loved ones around us. That is most certainly not the case for the animals you eat and that I used to eat decades ago. Massive difference which belies the effort to diminish the brutality of the meat/dairy industry.

@toddberkely6791

Ай бұрын

@@GorgyPorgy65 hahaha for now

@homosexualbiologicalmaleonly

22 күн бұрын

that why it should care about each chicken and cow to try to get it back to be alive and not get slaughtered , then is being surprised when they bring laboratory meat to replace the cruelty which happen in the farm so expect masive amount laboratory meat because i am not gonna accept criminality not even for food

For those who say "this stuff doent happen in the wild" just watch hienas eating alive a pregnant zebra

As farmer myself reading through the comments I think it’s important to understand that as a public we have demanded and have a desire for cheep food. It doesn’t matter if you are plant based or a meat eater all farms are under huge financial pressure to produce cheap food all year round! Which as the tragic effect of pushing farms down more of a factory route just to survive. Which I personally hate to see. I think the fact is we need as consumers to take greater care of where we purchase our food & it certainly should be worth paying substantially more for.

@evil1by1

4 ай бұрын

Are you going to pay your workers substantially more wages so they can afford to pay substantially more to stay alive? You gonna pay substantially higher taxes to pay for the higher wages and higher food costs for the poorest citizens? You gonna pay substantially higher grain and hay prices to raise your bougie beef? No the bigger issue isnt what the consumer pays but the fact we've allowed a handful of companies to control our entire food ecosystem . They own the chicks and the grain and the seed and the processors and feedlots and distributors. Farmers shouldn't get pennies on the pound while ibp and Tyson make dollars and price the end product out of reach of so many, while simultaneously supporting regulations that prevent any real competition under the guise of food safely and biosecurity. Theres zero reason a farmer shouldn't be able to direct farm sales so long as the meat is processed in a licensed state facility or by a certified person. No reason a state inspected butcher shouldn't be allowed to sell across state lines. Farmers were killing market ready animals during covid while local slaughter houses stood empty and people went without for weeks at a time. All due to red tape. People had money and desire.. farmers had stock and processors had capacity but everything ground to a halt because ibp and Tyson set it that way.

@EzioAuditoreDaFirenze99

4 ай бұрын

​@@evil1by1If you keep talking like that people might start to realise who our masters are...

@DonnaFernstrom

4 ай бұрын

@@evil1by1 Small correction. The 'bougie beef' as you put it don't eat grain. Grassfed is the way to go for healthy food, and feeding grain to cattle shouldn't be permitted for human health.

@dawn8542

3 ай бұрын

If people went plant based, the right farmers would get subsidies.

@michaelwalsh9145

2 ай бұрын

@@dawn8542livestock are part of the farming package returning organic matter to the soil and using land that can’t grow arable crops your plant based nonsense is a pipe dream.

A lot of people don’t realise how farmers feel about their livestock and when they lose stock it’s not just about the money. They’re putting so much time and effort to ensure their animals get the best care etc they can afford.

One thing people may note is that the man collecting the dead animals is just answering questions on the fly and clearly just giving fast answers, I wouldn't take it as the explanation for the "big picture" and you can see that the interviewer was a burden on his day's work if anything 😂

As long as the animal has had a life without suffering and been cared for and also is dispatched quickly I don’t have a problem with the meat industry. Animals in the wild that have a natural death possibly suffer for weeks beforehand and are most likely eaten alive.

@dreamingspace7218

Жыл бұрын

There’s a quality of life an animal can have in nature and under human care so long as they can still do all the things the can do in nature under human care than for all intents and purpose the animals are provided free food security from predators where they people which some people think they are they would be charged money and besides we ripped most of these species from nature and after generations of selective breeding they where domesticated and the only place the have in nature is as our livestock and even if vegans got there wish and the meat industry collapsed all those animals will require care to survive and new generations would have to be separated or the would just learn by example to rely on humans and then there’s the big question of where would the money and people required to make this happen come from?

@PianoKwanMan

Жыл бұрын

Suffering is a part of life. To live without it isn't living

@sv_sup6661

Жыл бұрын

@@PianoKwanMan That buddist bullshite applies to humans not cows mate

@PianoKwanMan

Жыл бұрын

@@sv_sup6661 i believe it applies to anything with a soul. And cows have souls. I don't really care what any religion says, as an agnostic.

@patremagilbert682

Жыл бұрын

@Laggy88 true

Seeing the knacker man's truck when I was a kid, always made my heart skip a beat. Even if it was going th the neighbours. Most Farmers don't like the suffering of their animals either, but if you have livestock, you also have deadstock.

@annabellesippleydoucette7959

Жыл бұрын

i feel that its an important job though if your suffering and no ones gonna do anything just like putting a suffering pet down sometimes it is kinder

@lunchymunchy2984

Жыл бұрын

Grow plants then ... funny how no one likes an animals suffering but it’s fine for ‘stock’ that be the money

@annagilda1

Жыл бұрын

@@lunchymunchy2984 ah yeah, sure. Like I stated, this happened while I was a child. But why don't you be all militant behind your keyboard like a righteous warrior.

@bevanbuckwheatshea5520

Жыл бұрын

Some farmers are cruel to their stock

@annagilda1

Жыл бұрын

@@bevanbuckwheatshea5520 that's why I said "Most farmers." Have people in this comments thread lost the ability to read?

I am amazed how these 2 guys running a poultry and an abatoir are also philosophers, they show a high level of knowledge coupled with empathy towards the animals, definitely did not see this coming.

@Lifter4life217

Жыл бұрын

I think that’s what is called being a psychopath

@conjoe176

Жыл бұрын

You are very ignorant to livestock farming and thats largely the problem

@paddymac5161

Жыл бұрын

@@Lifter4life217 😂😂😂

@sonicalex2536

Жыл бұрын

What a complicated way to say “I didn’t know farmers could be intelligent”

@falsehoodbasher7240

Жыл бұрын

@@sonicalex2536 mostly empathic but yeah that too

if any of this offends you I strongly advise you to research a woman named Temple Grandin. This woman has done much to make raising, transporting, and harvesting livestock more humane.

This was uncomfortable to watch, but not because of the animals... the interviewer sits wrong with me.

I worked in the protein industry for 4 years. For me, the real horror is not in the abattoir but in the intensive farming and live transport. This is the real obscenity. Small, well regulated, local abattoirs are surely a better option. And if you have to pay more to eat humanely reared and humanely slaughtered meat then so be it or eat less meat. Just because you call yourself human does not make you humane. You need to earn that badge.

@LB-uo7xy

Ай бұрын

Exactly. Personally I think we should ALL meat consumers petition our local and state governments to ONLY ALLOWED small farms of at most 100 heads of cats each and small LOCAL abattoir and petition to have FACTORY FARMS BE BANNED COMPLETELY. The smaller the livestock amount the better the care, feeding and veterinary care the animals get. And the better the meat quality for the consumer. Also we should consume way less meat because a lot of meat just ISN'T HEALTHY for us anyway. There is no reason you should eat meat everyday.

@ratherbwithhorses

28 күн бұрын

its true that trip the government forces is the worst of the animal's life!

You have livestock you have dead stock it's inevitable someone's got to do it

I work on a dairy farm know what it’s like to lose a cow when they have to shot the animal it not nice to see the animal in pain

I think it would be much more problematic for the knackerman if he was not desensitized. Being desensitized is not the problem, it is the solution to a problem, the problem of being traumatized by all the death

@nevertethered6386

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you are trying to say that cure is better than prevention.

@krisinsaigon

2 жыл бұрын

@@nevertethered6386 you cannot have prevention though without not having farm animals - farm animals die, and when they die they need to be disposed of hygienically. There has to be a knackerman if there are to be animals on farms.

@krisinsaigon

2 жыл бұрын

@@nevertethered6386 I eat meat, and dairy products, and eggs. To me, having knackermen who are desensitized to the death is better than prevention. If you are a vegan this wouldn’t be the case

@carlyanndenyer4204

Жыл бұрын

I thought the knackerman was professional and level headed. Someone has to do his job

@clivenz1109

Жыл бұрын

The differeance between rural and urban peoples outlook is simply what they experience on the daily... City folk can't process death as realistically as rural folk.

Growing up on a farm, I can say our animals were humanely raised and processed. The meat was absolutely delicious!

@t_rizer

11 ай бұрын

You ate your friends?

@Strange9952

5 ай бұрын

@@t_rizer correct!

Such a fantastic series, one of the best things ever to come out of the Guardian. Thank you, Richard.

@DTPxD

Жыл бұрын

RIP TEchnoblade

@brantweiller

Жыл бұрын

@@DTPxD TEchnoblade never dies

@Sasgoo46-10

Жыл бұрын

It is interesting

@eleni-music3674

Жыл бұрын

Don't you feel remorse for your crimes against these innocent creatures? Don't you see that they love life like you and don't want to die? Don't you see how much they are afraid of dying and scream out of fear? Do you want someone to treat you and your family or loved ones like this? If you have an iota of compassion and conscience, stop this dirty work. (Eating meat is a crime

@jimgavin1726

Жыл бұрын

@@eleni-music3674 never a crime. It’s an industry that provides sustenance.

Animal's do indeed have feelings, they feel joy, fear, happiness, depression and anger and they respond to love and kindness!

@verwonderingalom

Жыл бұрын

Yes that is acting out of their instinct.

@marcusmason3440

Жыл бұрын

Not true........

@verwonderingalom

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusmason3440 what exactly do you mean?

@Lucas-jy7cv

Жыл бұрын

I think he means it's not the same with the ability to reason like humans. I agree

@samanthasfortunes

9 ай бұрын

@@marcusmason3440how’s that?

I love animals myself. The problem is animals die in nature. If you ever watch a documentary of animals out in the wild most predators don't treat their prey with dignity. They start eating while the animal is still alive. At least humans usually try to treat the animal with respect.

@SuperYtc1

4 ай бұрын

Yeah but breeding over 1 billion chickens every week isn’t natural. So your “but it’s nature” argument fails miserably.

For me the issue is not death, that is inevitable for all living creatures. Its about how we treat the animals and I believe many farming practices amount to cruelty. Of course nature is cruel but we have a choice and I choose to have no part of meat production and consumption.

@globalist1990

2 жыл бұрын

What do you think will inevitably happen when you pay for someone to do it, while always choosing the cheaper option? I agree with you. No meat is the only solution.

@mainbrain6301

2 жыл бұрын

Global ist you can eat articisl meat, vegan meat, or just wait till the animal dies natural to eat it.

@globalist1990

2 жыл бұрын

@@mainbrain6301 i will never eat artificial meat unless i make it myself.

@mainbrain6301

2 жыл бұрын

Global ist why? Artificial meat isn't chemicals, it's just getting cells from animal and replicating it.

@mikegrizzle3014

2 жыл бұрын

I'll have a steak in your honor my guy.

Maybe we can say that we are so disconnected from farming from many generations not being on the farm and going to college has made people soft and weak and this is most definitely a 1st world problem there wouldn't be any kind of problem in a 3rd world country

heart breaking but I get it. my father never hid the processing from us as kids. not that he did a lot but he hunted. He was raised on a working farm and respected the animals he worked with and slaughtered. that's what it comes down to. respect. I agree with the need to close down the big slaughter houses. there is no need for an animal to suffer, travelling time and crowded conditions, no water or shade.. they suffer for our plates. there is a better way to do it. right now, there is no respect for the animals travelling to slaughter. as a side note, Canada is now shipping live horses overseas for slaughter, again, the conditions are foul and it's not something we as a country should in any way be proud of.

@adamstjames4564

Жыл бұрын

It's amazing how you just know everything. How exciting for you.

@Pink_pr1ncess

10 ай бұрын

@@adamstjames4564are you actually complimenting him or are you being sarcastic?

@adamstjames4564

10 ай бұрын

@@Pink_pr1ncess You need to check your email addresses more carefully. That isn't mine.

@samanthasfortunes

9 ай бұрын

There’s a better way and that’s not doing it at all

@davidpalk5010

4 ай бұрын

Small slaughter houses are no kinder than big ones because slaughter can never be a kind or respectful act. Simple way to stop the vast majority of this exploitation and violence - or at least your personal responsibility for it - is to go vegan. And that's as simple as putting different stuff in your shopping trolley each week. The choice is yours. It certainly worked for me. Celebrating ten years as a vegan on New Year's day. Best choice I ever made.

An Animal should never be shot in front of the other animals. These are intelligent beings .

@davidpalk5010

Жыл бұрын

An animal should never be shot at all. They are intelligent beings.

@countryside_guy

Жыл бұрын

They do school trips in Denmark to this day.

@presidentofallfoodnice8113

Жыл бұрын

​@@davidpalk5010 shutup

@davidpalk5010

11 ай бұрын

@@robertjohnstanley LOL. There's no food chain in Sainsbury's. You have choices.

@kayleemarie1901

4 ай бұрын

@@davidpalk5010not everyone is entitled to believe what you do. Animals are sentient creatures, but they are also resources for ALL other animals, including humans.

Pretty simple solution by from a local producer, I'm not saying that they don't have animals die because that is also true. However the quality of life of their animals is much higher and they actually care about the animals they are not employees of a corporation those are their livelihood.

I was brought up on a small holding where my parents bred chickens, ducks, geese and rabbits etc. I was taught that it was important that animals should always be killed humanely and that was that.

Filming all these animals that have died on the farm accidentally and saying it’s unusual. Imagine what it would be like as an undertaker

See some people just don't understand a job is a job somebody has to do it

Ah yes, the Guardian, just left of the Kremlin.

9:30 he's just described me. I must be a chicken.

@igorsiliano3655

2 жыл бұрын

Have you laid your egg today?

@truth-hurts3089

2 жыл бұрын

@@igorsiliano3655 I laid 5. Very fertile I am. Cluck cluck.

@monopolybillionaire5027

2 жыл бұрын

Mmm I like you

I gave up meat 2 years a go due to my disgust at factory farming. I was impressed with the guy that ran the small abitior. I think smaller farms and meat consumption would be a move in the right direction.

@drbubonic4942

2 жыл бұрын

You should try to find more local farms around your area if you can, trust me they are out there sadly not advertised enough

@rossothecrimson7

2 жыл бұрын

My neighbor raises kobe (I believe) he does the slaughter in his backyard with a butcher when the time comes. When I hear one gunshot randomly a few times out of the year I know what's going on.

@tobbs5410

Жыл бұрын

I don't really understand why you'd be disgusted with factory farming if you have no problem killing animals anyway.

@KenziBabenzi

Жыл бұрын

@Tony Paterson I don't think animals were meant to be in factory farms. I could be more at peace if there was a sustainable and respectful way of killing and processing animals for food. Similar to how the native Americans were

@markrainford1219

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you have given up completely, means I don't have to give up or cut down at all.

Back in the sixties when i was at secondary school we actually had a day trip to a slaughter house .Cant ever see that happening today !!

@verwonderingalom

Жыл бұрын

Our secondary school goes to the school for learning how to become a butcher.

@mikeross4

Жыл бұрын

I believe that in Denmark, schoolchildren visit an abattoir as part of their education so that they understand what meat production involves.

in the USA they've made it illegal to film any terrible conditions on farms. The whistleblowers can be put in prison....the conditions on the farms NEVER improve. Not for the workers on the farms either....they are often illegal, and kept in almost as bad conditions as the animals.

@joeblogs6598

Жыл бұрын

That's because people demand cheap meat. If there is an economic demand for better conditions, then there will be a supply created for it.

@kittyfan

Жыл бұрын

@@joeblogs6598 ppl demand cheap meat because about 40% of the population is really struggling. And it's the best, fastest way to get protein Those ppl CANNOT demand more expensive meat or then they would have none. Plus, many of the owners of the factory farms are driving around in Mercedes Benz SUV's and pickups....and have big houses and swimming pools. .....they don't want to spend more on the animals'.....or workers' conditions, because that would mean they couldn't get a new model of Mercedes every year. If it's a really big corporation, the company's chief officers also have yachts. cheers anyways

@newshound2521

3 ай бұрын

Im shocked the USA would put the precious $ above all else

@kittyfan

3 ай бұрын

@@newshound2521 hee hee! is that sarsasm? The children of Medjugorje said that the USA would Never bring the world back to religion....they're all too rich.. All the best to you!

Thank you to all on here for your honesty.

Does not bother me a bit,when I shoot a deer that deer is dead b4 it hit the ground. ITS FOOD PEOPLE! 😭😢😓😥😪😮‍💨

The knackerman showed quite a bit of patience with Sprenger's one-note yammering. What else should be done as it concerns the humane dispatching and economical handling of that which is, well, now surplus to agricultural requirements? The entire segment is a bit precious, and it's nothing to do with the validity of the nature of the service that the knackerman provides.

I'm having to ask myself some really difficult questions that I've been trying to avoid all my life

@djayjp

2 жыл бұрын

I highly recommend the film Earthlings.

@batousan_

2 жыл бұрын

I did 3 years ago, glad I did. Very few people are actually this cruel when they took a good long look at what's going on and whether they want to contribute to it. I started out just cutting out beef, eventually you just don't miss it, then the next thing etc. 2nd year in and I was in the best shape of my life so not looked back 😎

@waulie_palnuts

2 жыл бұрын

I recommend watching 'Land of Hope and Glory (UK 'Earthlings' Documentary)' here on KZread. It won't be an easy watch but it will settle the question for you

@mageksena2002

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, why on earth did you like google plus?

@u.martin6917

2 жыл бұрын

You have to consume to live, it's how loving life works. If you're concern is to minimize your impact on the suffering of other living things, I recommend to look into sourcing your food locally, whether plant or animal. Just advice from someone who has been trying to do this for almost a decade.

We used to have at least 1 abattoir in each town. Since EU in the late 80's Early 90's. Everything went Bad.!

In the southern states of America chickens often die of heat exhaustion. They get ground up and put into animal feed.

@GrooveSpaceArk

2 жыл бұрын

Based

@Napoleonwilson1973

2 жыл бұрын

That’s asking for trouble

Hasn't put me off meat in any way, shape or form.

Personally , I've always seen hunted meat as being the most humane meat. That deer is out living its best life, and then, bam! lights out. Also, hunting supports wilderness, can’t grow deer in town. Very environmental. Hunting might be different in Europe tho. It’s also important to remember that farms in general cause massive deaths every time they plow, harvest, etc. so veg isn’t cruelty free .

@t_rizer

11 ай бұрын

I don't like hunting AT ALL. But I think you hit the nail right on the head there about the hunted animal having the better life then one raised in a large industrial farm.

@SuperYtc1

4 ай бұрын

@@t_rizerno, he didn’t. One raised on a farm wouldn’t have been bred and born in the first place. Stop looking for excuses just to make yourself feel better about the next time you have a dead animal on your plate.

"doesn't the entire culture pretend that death doesn't happen?" - I think that was right on point.

I still believe you should have to slaughter your own animals. This is coming from someone who hunts and has also seen humans die as well. I know the feelings that go with taking a life which makes me respect the food I eat and the life men lived before their time was up.

@Dandodod1

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think my local farmer would be right happy if I went and shot one of his sheep. Also the only think wild around me is squirrel and fox, not the meatiest of animals.

@sharonjameson8412

Ай бұрын

The farmer would probably appreciate your business though, and the meat tastes so much better, same as fresh veg.@@Dandodod1

The guy with the bear head has a better understanding of factory farming than Joey Carbstrong

I’m struggling to see when some of these people were actually sensitive or caring about animals? There’s tons of comments about these people being desensitised because of their job, but most people who care don’t last in these jobs. I am genuinely interested as to whether these farmers or drivers came into the job for animal welfare or just because they see these animals as ££££

@dadshouse3349

8 ай бұрын

If money is what you're after, farming is not the way forward 😂

@ThatTallGuy0

7 күн бұрын

@@dadshouse3349😂😂

Excellent programme.

The attitude that they’re just “milking machines” is just so disheartening. Cows are not machines nor do they just continuously produce milk. They’re sensitive creatures who have strong bonds with each other and other beings, they love to play and to cuddle, they feel fear, happiness, and most likely love. Whenever I hear people speak of other animals in the way that this man did it reminds me of how easily humans are able to pick and choose of who they think is deserving of empathy and compassion and how it’s only a few more steps to apply that to people.

@michaelrch

2 жыл бұрын

☝️this

@olavsantiago

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the modern dairy herd are just milking machines, they produce too much milk with a fair number having associated ailments. I would prefer cows that produce less milk and have a good life quality

@annamiller6412

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! ✨

@jdshgaming3416

2 жыл бұрын

This is it though. They’re not human. If you think human rights only apply to humans as only humans can give moral consideration, then this is fine. What gets me is the hypocrisy. If you kick a dog you’re a monster, but chucking chickens into an incinerator is fine. It’s a philosophical argument fundamentally - these farmers do not think animals are the same as humans. You disagree. But you think you’re so right that you believe you can pass moral judgement. The farmers don’t. But here’s one thing that is true: no animal, chicken, cow, lamb, horse, dog or cat will ever think the way you did when you wrote that comment. I’m not saying which side I agree with, but it’s not as simple and emotional as you’re making it out to be

@michaelrch

2 жыл бұрын

@@jdshgaming3416 You don't have to accord non-human animals ALL the same rights as humans to at least notice and respect the fact that they are sentient and can suffer in a way that we would never want for ourselves or any human. That is where the moral consideration comes from. It's not from an accident of DNA. Farmers know that they inflict suffering as an inherent part of making their living. They know they are exploiting living sentient beings for nothing other than material gain. That's why we cannot pull out punches. Sure, they are very heavily indoctrinated to think that cows and pigs are somehow different to cats and dogs, but that doesn't take away from the horrible harm they inflict to make their living. Many slave holders thought that they were looking after black people when they enslaved them. It was still monstrous.

Even as a vegetarian I have nothing but respect for independent farmers. Its a thankless job, the profit margins are incredibly tight, and the rules are insane.

I hate that we live in a world where killing animals for food is shocking. It’s because we have an abundance of food.

Are bull calves still removed from the cow when very young and sold for veal? I think this is (or was) an inhumane practice, as it's very traumatic for the mother! It's the true price we pay for milk.

@toby5966

Жыл бұрын

Heifer calves are also removed what’s your point? Obviously the media tells you it’s traumatic but from first hand experience I’ve seen cows more interested in food and other cows than their actually calf

@bevanbuckwheatshea5520

Жыл бұрын

The Bobby calves are removed from their mum and usually killed soon after

@jg5755

Жыл бұрын

Dairy cows won't naturally wean a calf. This sets up replacement heifers with the extremely bad habit of continuing to drink milk from other cows long after adulthood which can actually damage udders to the point they don't work anymore. Dairy calves can spread diseases by nursing on multiple cows. There are many other reasons too. It's sounds 'so cruel' but the reasons are for the health and wellbeing of the whole herd. I hope veal is always available - it's the only thing our little rescue cat can stomach comfortably.

@alansummerscales3376

2 ай бұрын

New calves have no meat value so they need to be raised for quite some time before they are used. So I believe they are sold to other farmers to grow out.

Excellent piece Richard, it definitely makes you thing about what we eat and how it's cared for..

@eeth_121

Жыл бұрын

Who*

@kayleemarie1901

4 ай бұрын

@@eeth_121 who?…

Are we supposed to eat our food while it is alive???

IMAGINE BEING SOO RICH, U CAN LOOK DOWN UR NOSE AT THOSE WHO CANT NOR WILL EVER BE ABLE TO EVEN ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF VEGAN GROCERYS. 1,600.00 MONTHLY GROCERY VEGAN BILL IS UNTENABLE. AS OPPOSED TO $600-800 When u got 4kids 3 dogs, a cat a wife, & the strays ( kids friends) the kids bring home.

There's no mention of the mass producing of death to satiate market stability. Farmers are fined for under or overproducing livestock for the supply of supermarkets.

@jimmielovett226

2 жыл бұрын

Man, I remember this video that was uploaded by some whistleblower or whatever that showed farmers basically sealing up a big pig warehouse and they pumped it full of steam and cooked them alive, when they opened it back up some were still alive and screaming so they killed them obviously, it was due to lack of demand, all they did was bury them next to the warehouse where they were killed in a big mass grave. All because it would have cost them money to keep them alive and feed them. Like, what the actual fuck?

To me the main problem is when farming becomes industrial, livestock become numbers and statistics. In an ideal world we would go back to how it was a hundred years to having family farms producing meat for the local butchers for local people to eat. Sustainability, traceability and as humane as possible.

I’ve just stumbled across this I’m hooked I love stuff like this even been a farmer

At 14:38 that bird was not dead! It was flapping it's wings when being tossed in that oven!

Dead cow Quentin Tarantino over there seems like a cool bloke - I'd love to go on a drive with him.

Bro, they are protesting when they in fact do eat meat. They have no question when eating it?

This is not for the wets we have these days.

An important issue more people have to see. When i talk to people about when eating and using animal products it has to lead to their death, I always hear the same „Ohhh i cant deal with that - dont tell me about it!!!“.

@lucifersgameroom9275

Жыл бұрын

Well unlike those people, I couldn't care less where my food comes from.. I'm aware that they die.. But it is what it is

@truecrimerip7936

Жыл бұрын

@@lucifersgameroom9275 ok edgelord

@lucifersgameroom9275

Жыл бұрын

@@truecrimerip7936 not really being an edgelord... Most people feel that way. They just don't care

@killerman19880385

Жыл бұрын

@@truecrimerip7936 Thats not called being edgy but okay.

Why the name "Human Animal" in this context? Sounds like anthropomorphizing to me.

@sharonjameson8412

Ай бұрын

because we are animals! And if you put us in a field with a pride of lions, who do you think will be dinner! (a lot slower than the other animals)

Did anyone notice the chook flap at the end when going into the fire?

I think it's important to take accountability of what we put in our shooping bag. Buying from local farms and cutting down consumption of meat, food in genersl is key. Fast food restaurants should be a treat not an occurrence. Little changes done by many can go along way to make a diffrence. It was a long time ago that we didn't know where our food came from or a long time where the animals we consumed were humanly killed.

Thank you. Very informative, and while unsettling you can see the care from the farmers and the abattoir. I’m sure while this will discourage meat eating it is also eye opening in light of those freakish American documentaries - here in the UK our animal welfare really is good.

@globalist1990

2 жыл бұрын

Did you think they had a degree on welfare?

@bg5012

2 жыл бұрын

@@globalist1990 What do you mean?

@Sssssssslf

Жыл бұрын

Utterly delusional!

@TheEmeraldMenOfficial

Жыл бұрын

As a Canadian? Agreed.

@dalebaker5030

Жыл бұрын

@@globalist1990 i know nothing of the american documentaries he is talking of but if he changed american documentaries with chinese welfare i would say yes to your question.

Can't believe how you can witness what goes on or just knowing an animal died for your palate and keep doing it ):

@The_Phoenix_Saga

Жыл бұрын

Oh I did just that at ten years old - went to an abattoir with my school, teacher trying to push veganism on us. I watched the whole process from selection, isolation, execution and so forth - when we left she asked smugly how we all felt - I sickened her by saying "I'm hungry."

@sheep-pj5nt

Жыл бұрын

@@The_Phoenix_Saga hilarious 😂......the smugness and arrogance of most vegans and their movement is what makes me want to eat even more meat.

@joeblogs6598

Жыл бұрын

Consider how many thousands of aphids and other insects died to facilitate the farming of your vegetables.

@1827Beethoven

Жыл бұрын

@@joeblogs6598 Another ignorant comment. More animals are still killed directly for meat, dairy and eggs than they are for crops. Not to mention the hundreds of millions of acres are used to grow crops that are converted to animal feed.

@jg5755

Жыл бұрын

@@1827Beethoven Have you actually studied how plant crops are grown for human consumption? Its nothing to be proud of and millions of birds, frogs, lizards, rodents and other small animals, in addition to all the insects both above and below ground, are killed every year to protect those crops or killed when those crops are harvested. Then there's the petroleum based fertilisers, the fungicides, pesticides, herbicides and degradation of the soil and water supply. And that's a bit of a myth about the animal feed. Animals are fed what hasn't grown well enough for human consumption (happened in my country last season with the wheat harvest), or they are fed the waste products that humans don't eat. I keep my own cattle and sheep for meat and milk. I'd be bored to tears growing plants but I love working with my animals. It's incredibly rewarding.

£7.50 for a sheep? It’s €40 to get one lifted in Ireland, It’s long past time the knackers were subsided

Like most modern business...all the larger meat works thrive and smaller business falls by the wayside. Hence you get animals suffering on long trips from farm to slaughter house.....Big business wins, the animals and small business suffers.... I used to raise beef stock in small numbers....but only ever sold to the smaller local slaughter houses.....for less money...but in return one half of one of the animals was returned to me free of charge, and ready for me to butcher, pack and freeze down for my own family.... That way my animals raised with care, never suffered a journey on a stock truck for more than 20 kilometres.

He’s quite realistic.

After watching this , it hasn't really changed my opinion on eating meat

@ponnamy

2 жыл бұрын

Why? Not intelligence enough?

@kenroth87

2 жыл бұрын

@@ponnamy ? What does my decision to eat meat have to do with my intelligence?

@user-mx4sm9cv7e

2 жыл бұрын

@@ponnamy *intelligent

@kaijuvegan

2 жыл бұрын

What would change your opinion?

@brantweiller

Жыл бұрын

@@ponnamy What does his decision to eat meat have to do with his intelligence?

"Once people smell a bacon sandwich, you have to really be committed." >Stands >Tips Cap Couldn't have said it better...so true...where's my sammich? :-)

@PeacewithRhys

2 жыл бұрын

The smell of cooking meat genuinely turns my stomach. I think most people, once they've made the connection and abstained from eating it for long enough, will be the same.

great video

I like this investigator.

These chickens relly seem quite fond of there master

Is this supposed to shame me into eating veg?

@myblueheaven4424

Жыл бұрын

no, just eat cats instead.

people die every day and no one sees it as they hide it but think about it. its part of life

Can you invite the squatter @ 1600 Penn Ave to your farm

Ignorance is causing the needless suffering of animals being transported long distances to slaughterhouses. We need to bring the same "local" mentality to meat animals as we do to local produce

Abattoirs we have three different types, only one stuns the animal prior to death ?

I've seen how it is in the meet industry and it's worst. Animals are not respected anymore

@annemarie7682

4 ай бұрын

Are a Siberian husky in a small apartment respected , a dog in clothing , a animal kept alive because the owner can’t end its suffering

@sharonjameson8412

Ай бұрын

That's ok, neither are humans. How long do you think it will be before they start culling us! They have already said it's on the cards.

Some interesting, and very telling comments in this. The knackerman who says if people saw the worst of what happens they'd stop eating meat, the abattoir owner who says once an animal is unrecognisable after it's decapitated it becomes ok to eat. And the chicken farmer who complains that people are too disassociated from how their food is produced yet suggests that if he thought about the chickens he incinerates he would be able to carry on. Seems like even the ones defending their industry are affected by it despite trying really hard to repress those emotions. As a consumer, we'd either become desensitised to the violence or actually allow the violence to catalyse a change in our habits. Both outcomes infer that killing animals isn't something we should continue doing.

@tobbs5410

Жыл бұрын

I don't think we as a species have any emotional attachment to animals. Any of us could cut the head off a fawn and feel very little in the way of sadness.

@Bastillian

Жыл бұрын

The chicken farmer never said people are disassociated from their food, he said they were disassociated from death, which is true, and he meant death of fellow humans as well.

This guy is emotionally naïve to the reality of what life is for a wild animal. (To be clear, I believe the life and slaughter of farm animals should be as humane as possible. Meaning: access to the outdoors, food, water, no cruel needless abuse and as fast of a death as possible.) - In reality, life in the wild is absolutely brutal. Nobody comes with a gun to finish off half dead animals in the woods. When a wild animal breaks a leg, gets infested with ticks.. and etc. it slowly dies of dehydration, hunger.. or it becomes prey for a pack of wolves ,coyotes or bears. Which will rip it apart in the most gruesome manor possible... Alive while being eaten, screaming out as a pack of small coyotes rip into whatever part of the animal they can. - That one farmer put it best when he talked about how we associate the life of a wild animal to that which we've seen in Disney movies.. : The animals of the forest living together as friends. Each with their own personality and quirks.

Mortality is just a fact in Livestock Farming! Farming is a tough job!

14:26 "I'm not going to be thinking about it by tea time today otherwise you couldn't carry on could you" says everything right there

@originalunoriginal4055

2 жыл бұрын

That guy is definitely a psychopath! 😖

@kaijuvegan

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@drbubonic4942

2 жыл бұрын

@@originalunoriginal4055 explain a psychopath

@t_rizer

11 ай бұрын

I think that goes along with a lot of difficult jobs.

As a kid back in the 60s I liked to see the knacker arrive to collect something, I would climb on a gate or wall to see what else he had in the lorry, I was especially interested when occasionally he had to shoot something.

@lindamcd1217

Жыл бұрын

Have they made a movie of your crimes? 🤣 JK

@sidneygibson1023

Жыл бұрын

@lindamcd1217 wish they would, I could be rich!😃

The use of pesticides by farmers obtains farmers twice the incidence of ALL serious diseases compared to the general population. How much LESS serious disease would there be in the general population if those pesticides were banned? Herbicide, Insecticide, and fungicide. All in the food chain and the water supply.

@stephencope7178

Жыл бұрын

And kills the wild birds, as the insects that they feed on are poisoned and have also become scarce. The birds ingest these pesticides too.

@joeblogs6598

Жыл бұрын

@public.public And how much more disease and misery will there be once you've destroyed all of these inventions that allow modern farming to supply food at these prices?

Why do you need the cable to get a 30-40lb calf in the truck

@RR-bh8vd

Ай бұрын

To reduce injuries or chance of injury to the worker. Probably due to labor laws and worker compensation laws. We had to use a lift at one of my jobs to pickup 20lb boxes. I got written up when I got caught lifting one one time. I'm 6'4" 245lbs it was kinda silly but I understand why.

Lockal bucher 🤷‍♂️ Means nothing. What about the Shelf life chemicals?

Pigs are smarter than dogs. I notice they didnt show pigs

That's how it is. What bothers me is the sentimental vegan who wants a non meat product to look and taste like meat ....why

I am subbed to a few farmers. You got to make sure that you know that these animals are not pets but working animals serving a purpose.

@inannaliban

25 күн бұрын

Sandi Brock?

@DriftyAlison0

25 күн бұрын

@@inannaliban Shes my main one.

Thank you so much for showing this, its interesting but it doesn't stop me from eating meat. Its life

Media reports highlighting animal cruelty are bound to nudge a proportion of viewers to cut their meat consumption and try meat-free dishes. And vegetarian & vegan substitutes for meat are now superb - in terms of taste & texture. Once the health benefits of meat-free diets are publicised more widely, the trend towards vegetarian & vegan living will become unstoppable!

I'm glad the truth is being widespread. There is no "humane" way to kill a living sentient being that feels pain.

@ewangent

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully you don't eat bread then...

@KvngLxo

2 жыл бұрын

@@ewangent what? lol

@stevves4647

2 жыл бұрын

There is

@kookycoolauntkaryn5884

2 жыл бұрын

@@KvngLxo wait... you didn't know that yeast is a living object.... also bacteria in yogurt is alive as well....🤣🤣💀💀💀

@KvngLxo

2 жыл бұрын

@@kookycoolauntkaryn5884 yeah but yeast dosent feel pain when u eat it lol

i think most people are not interested in the morality of eating meat. So if you exclude that part of it and consider it a health and climate issue, it shouldn't really be so black and white. It's more realistic to get people to just eat less meat and make them think about things like steak or lamb as a luxury to have once in a while.

@brantweiller

Жыл бұрын

nah, I´m staying with meat

@Bastillian

Жыл бұрын

If there were less people in the world, i.e. population control, then there would be no market for industrialised meat production. Veganism, as stated by John Dutton, a tv drama (Yellowstone), but no less valid for that, saying more critters that live on and under the green fields are slaughtered in their billions to produce vegan food. Living things die all the way up the food chain, and get eaten. Vegan food production leaves the critters to rot in the fields...

@sharonjameson8412

Ай бұрын

So your willing to eat just lettuce and think of , say peas as a luxury. Oh, and as to the climate issue, I think we need more animals, not less to compensate for the mess scientists have made, between weather experiments and rockets, plus to many humans. When they say carbon zero, that includes getting rid of us too...

As humans have evolved to the consciousness of controlling other beings they therefore beheld the responsibility of not atleast killing them for their products. Cooperation is the key and always have been for our evolution. So we have an option of mutualism rather than predation.

@d9918

2 жыл бұрын

So we have to all be vegetarians then?

@djayjp

2 жыл бұрын

@@d9918 No, vegan.

@d9918

2 жыл бұрын

@@djayjp Well good for you personal choice but nature certainly isn't vegan and it's not the way we have evolved. I wish we could farm animals more humanely and would gladly pay extra for meat if the animal had a better life. Don't forget we all have to die eventually, I don't care if they eat me when I'm gone but I want to live a good life first.

@brantweiller

Жыл бұрын

@@djayjp Nah, I´m staying with the meat

@presidentofallfoodnice8113

Жыл бұрын

​@@brantweiller based

we've been doing it for tens of thousands of years.... whats that different ?

Everything had to die in the end even us so what's the fuss nothing last for ever. The man collecting the died is just doing his group.

Do you really expect the man to cry over every dead cow? He wouldnt be able to work....

Just a sheep or cow when there are no farms and no food.

That truck driver has a serious case of cognitive dissonence There is no such thing as "human emotions". Emotions are not restricted to humans, most animals have emotions.

You can stop liking the smell of bacon. Took me about 25 years. I didn't stop because it tasted bad and would eat it to protect my health but there is plenty else to eat so I do.