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@Grace.allovertheplace

5 ай бұрын

Hi 👋. Thanks for a great interview. I fully agree with your sentiment on the importance for a broader and more open discussion about how to keep our children safe (children as a collective and not just own children!) @AndrewGold I’m glad you’re taking a lead in this conversation because the need for safe space to talk about this is heavily underrated, and *now* is an excellent opportunity to really start addressing this huge travesty! *I want to emphasize* when a child(ren) has been s*xually abused it causes ripple effects, and now I’m not talking about the effects it has on the child’s immediate family! *MY FOCUS* here’s the *ripple effects the child subjected to this abuse many times develops/grows into!* I’m not an expert but I’m certainly confident when I say children who has been s*xual abused have a high risk of being abused again and again, and the other factors have to do with the child’s own feelings (& this goes for children who’ve been through trauma treatments, as well as for children who haven’t told about it)! The feeling of fear, and for those who have spoken about it, the fear of retaliation’s and also the true nature of when it’s out “there” many children are shamed by their peers and mocked, and most of us know that shame, and guilt builds up and can express itself in a variety of ways but there’s just too many cases where children goes into adulthood blocking their trauma out, only for the trauma to reoccur whenever the f*ck it pleases! And if the individual teenager or adult isn’t “prepared” depression can suddenly appear from one day to the next without any warning, and without the “child’s”’consent to reappear! And a depression of that magnitude takes many forms, especially if it happened 10-12-20 years ago and even more so if the “child” never disclosed anything about what they went through! (If the latter is true then the “child” will be met with a heap of new trauma due to a lack of understanding from his/her “surroundings”! The consequences that often comes with this kind of abuse is atrocious! Getting immediate access to trauma therapy is simply not good enough! Because, it should never have happened to begin with! *THEREFORE* it’s urgent that we prioritize this issue, & engages in conversations with people from all walks of life & experiences. *We’re morally obliged too!* *Lastly! And I do believe this is vital!* *As ADULTS we don’t need to DREAD the scarcity of having to risk to talk about our own experiences if we have any! It can be contra productive if someone engages in a conversation without having dealt and coped with one’s own trauma. That’s not productive and will risk that person to spiral into a situation they weren’t prepared for, so that is something I’d advise to consider before deciding whether to tell about own experiences or keep it not secret, not at all, but what feels most comfortable for every individual is where “you” need to start engaging in this extremely important, sensitive conversation on how we as a society can help keep our children safe but without prohibiting them from experiencing and engaging themselves in the world they one day are supposed to live and be happy citizens of and hopefully productive members with positive experiences!! (Why my focus is about *we the people* is solely due to the fact if a crime haven’t been committed then the authorities (police) cannot be engaged.) Respectfully Grace 🩰

I just want to comment on this. My husband found out many years after that his scout leader was sexually abusing boys in his own group, and he had no idea. This would have been in the late 70s. He's 56 now. He remembers the few boys who were violated. He said they were the more timid ones with no parent around. He further explained that since his parents were involved in his life, he already had some confidence at that young age. He says that the scout leader would have known this and would have never tried to mess with him. So first off, we should not let our kids be alone with coaches or leaders. And second, start explaining this topic to them before joining these kind of groups. It's like my husband said, "If that guy had ever tried anything with me, I would have said 'what the hell, man' , and told my dad immediately. Let's empower our kids.

@dustylong

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely! I was empowered like that at a very young age and it really helped me. I was approched by guys like that and I could actually say "no" and walk away from it. So yes, teach your children!

@Kreepyb5

6 ай бұрын

Thankyou for sharing

@thekeysman6760

6 ай бұрын

@vickilee6335 Thank you for sharing this. Was it in a certain place in Hertfordshire by any chance? I'm six years younger than your hubby, but it's ringing bells to me...

@thekeysman6760

6 ай бұрын

​@@Kreepyb5thank you*, two separate words. 👍

@GorgeouslyStupidThing

6 ай бұрын

Well, as you said, the empowered kids are the ones with parents. The ones where no dad is around will still be alone and vulnerable. No one's empowering them... no one cares.

Thank you for discussing a very sensitive issue. Good advice, be physically present for your children as much as possible. If life forces you to work 2 jobs, be sure your child is well-informed about inappropriate behavior and willing to trust you with ALL personal issues.

I had two homosexual scout leaders, and neither one of them ever touched any of us, even at camp. One was an ex-Marine who was built like a tank and knew everything there was to know about survival living and fending for ourselves. We learned an immense amount of all sorts of things from him and I'll always remember his scout leadership as being nothing short of exemplary. The other one was just sort of this laid back schlub who wanted nothing more than to sit in his camp chair and watch all the shirtless (none of us ever wore one, as I recall) boys running around. He wasn't so great at leading, but at least we could act like hooligans and he didn't care.

@welshgirl12

6 ай бұрын

That’s because he was homosexual and not a paedophile!

@eammbutler1323

6 ай бұрын

​@@welshgirl12exactly! A lot of churches, youth groups etc don't get this and exclude gay volunteers, who actually might be best at looking out for actual predators.

@pageribe2399

6 ай бұрын

​@@welshgirl12 It is always important to point out the difference!

Good on you Andrew for doing a story on this topic. Great guest too. 🙏

I told my son from age 5 about men or woman touching him. Its not ok and no matter what that person might say he needed to tell and not be scared. I did not leave him in any classes I took him too. His karate leader turned out to be a abuser of another child in the group. I was tipped off that he was wanting to target my son from information on his computer. So glad I did not leave him and was always there to support him. We need to educate our children ourselves and give them confidence to talk to use as parents . Believe your child encourage truthfulness so they will be confident you will believe them.

Last Summer my brother Matty died. At his wake i noticed this guy going around shaking hands with everyone. i didn't recognize him. iwalked over and asked him his name. When he said it - I f'n froze on the spot. it was my brother's Scout leader LD. I told him i knew what he did to my brother. He gave him alcohol and pornography when he was 12. About twenty years ago several of my brother's fellow Scouts brought a civil suit against him - my brother refused to participate. He was so damaged. This POS still is on civic boards and holds his head up. I don't get it. i want to listen to this chat

@J3nJ3nl0llip0p

6 ай бұрын

I am so so sorry to hear this! Sending all the hugs! It is uplifting to hear that you confronted him, although he likely didn't care, that pompous, evil f7ck... You are a hero!!!!!

@rebeccahansen1786

6 ай бұрын

You should expose him, IMHO. It's something your brother couldn't do for himself.

@J3nJ3nl0llip0p

6 ай бұрын

@@rebeccahansen1786 YYYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSSS

@therealdeal3672

6 ай бұрын

Good for you for confronting the scumbag. What a disgusting slime ball. Sympathies for the loss of your brother. And for what he suffered at the hands of that monster.😢❤

BTK serial killer was a scout leader and an elder at his church.

I was in a 5 year relationship with a guy who was raised Mormon, family was still heavily involved. He was a very confused man. It wasn't until after we'd split up that I started studying cults. The more I learn about the religion and the culture, the more I understand WHY he was the way he was. He and all his brothers made it to Eagle, all 5 of 'em. I know there's a lot he didn't tell me about his boyhood; the more of these exposés I watch, the more I get why. Between Andrew, Chelise, Jordan& McKay, Zelph, Amanda and her whole family...And why can't I remember Mormon Stories/NuanceHoe's names???... I'm really seeing why this man was so closed off.

@MettleHurlant

6 ай бұрын

This group doesn’t get enough scrutiny. They are more like Scientology than a Christian denomination.

I had a couple troops in the late 80's and early 90's...when I took over each troop and then moved up to regional...I instituted a policy that anyone in leadership were never to be alone with a scout at any time for any reason....this included senior/older scouts...I didn't have any reason to believe it was going on....just thought it didn't look and feel right....//

It took me a month to view this one, because of my own background of being sexually assaulted between the ages of 9 and 11 by a school teacher. Even after many many years I still feel not strong enough to view intellectual discussions about this topic. This was a very very good guest, and a very good overview of this pernicious problem. I am so relieved to know that children and parents and organizations are making strides in prevention. I was little a very long time ago when parents rarely even thought of such things, and did not make certain their children knew that any time an adult touched them in a sexual way or physically frightened them, they should tell this to parents or other adults right away. So important. So important. This protects not only one child, but many other potential victims. During my childhood, children were taught to always listen to teacher, and always be respectful to teacher, and sort of to always trust teacher!

You are brave enough to talk about this message possible . people don't talk about this message. You are a beautiful person 😍😍💓🙏😻.

Unfortunately, a dodgy scout leader tars the other scout leaders who are there for all the right reasons!

@vickilee6335

4 ай бұрын

A sad reality for sure. But pedophiles can infiltrate any group for access to kids.

Back in the late 80's and 90's they tried to organize a scout troop in our school. No mother married or single would agree to it.

andrew, there is a gentleman who does a show with tommy from the life boat who was a scout as a child and had a leader that messed with the boys. its terrible that these people who are put in a position of trust with children harm them

I had fantastic experiences as a scout when I was young. The basic skills I learned back then have accompanied me during all my life as a mountaineer. I an so sorry to hear these terrible stories.

Based on both my son's father's family history and my personal history, we never had a babysitter. We were very involved with our son and he didn't ever join the Boy Scouts. He did have after school care but that was a good environment at his elementary School campus. When he made it to 18 years old I thought to myself that I was thankful that I had successfully gotten him through his childhood without any inappropriate behavior from any adults directed at him. I also have an extremely close relationship with him so he would have told me anything that was going on. He still does tell me his life in great detail. Which is wonderful to have such an open relationship. I guess his dad and I were extra protective. His dad had a sister who had been kidnapped when she was an infant and was rescued. And then I had my own CSA history that made me not trust anybody. So it's very true that parents have to be around and don't trust anyone with your kids, that isn't in the right situation, where everybody knows what's going on and where there's essentially no opportunity or very little for privacy between an adult and your kid.

There are subtle changes in your child's behaviour. They don't want hugs or kisses good night anymore, privacy becomes an issue, they get shy and think everyone is staring at them - like people can see the emotional damage - which of course no one can see. Some kids get very angry and defiant - their trust in adults in gone. Change in clothing and eating habits. Not wanting to go to school or getting stomach aches before a sports or scouts event. Many parents are busy and don't spend the time with their kids where they would notice these subtle changes, they just assume that School, sports, arts are safe and leave the kids in the care of others without parental involvement. Put down your cell phones and talk with your kids. If your child is getting expensive gifts or special attention - be very careful.

Mark said the minute he achieved more subscribers than Scientology had he would Quit!!!!

The catholic church debacle is so infuriating because it wasn't just that they wanted to deal with child abuse internally, judging by their actions, they literally didn't care about the children. All of their actions indicate they were primarily concerned with their power, their reputation, and their money. They literally moved priests they knew to be child abusers to different locations where they would again be in charge of children.

My BIL became a scout chaperone and was on every scout outing for a decade. My nephew just became an eagle scout. That should be the norm. Sadly, not all have that option. This is a disgrace. Our laws are not strong enough when offenders are caught, men or women.

predators were prey once and the cycle and emotional ranges of trauma are awful. Not defending these people at all cause their shame tells they know it’s wrong. 😢😭

“They” wan’t to help other people protect their kids from people like “me” … huh 🤔 … True amends to the victims or panic fir one’s own karma? 🤷‍♀️ Each have to answer for themselves. That aside, I’m glad these subjects are coming to the surface. Whichever way, that’s a good thing. Lots of healing awaits us - humanity. It’s not a problem of one group or organization, it’s everywhere. The deeper question we have to start asking ourselves is why this is happening. It’s not a matter of sweeping away a few bad seeds. We’re looping in a victim becomes perpetrator etc… multigenerational cycle of abuse and trauma. This type of change can only come from the heart, each of us within (If it’s to last). Thank you Andrew for the work you’re doing 🙏

Do the US have a form of checking for sex offenders who are trying to access young or vulnerable people like we do in the UK ie (disclosure & barring service) ? We learned our lessons the hard way with Ian Huntley , but at least we have systems in place to try and stop this now. Just wondered how they deal with volunteering and these particular people who are very adept at getting around vulnerable people.

Hi 👋. Thanks for a great interview. I fully agree with your sentiment on the importance for a broader and more open discussion about how to keep our children safe (children as a collective and not just own children!) @AndrewGold I’m glad you’re taking a lead in this conversation because the need for safe space to talk about this is heavily underrated, and *now* is an excellent opportunity to really start addressing this huge travesty! *I want to emphasize* when a child(ren) has been s*xually abused it causes ripple effects, and now I’m not talking about the effects it has on the child’s immediate family! *MY FOCUS* here’s the *ripple effects the child subjected to this abuse many times develops/grows into!* I’m not an expert but I’m certainly confident when I say children who has been s*xual abused have a high risk of being abused again and again, and the other factors have to do with the child’s own feelings (& this goes for children who’ve been through trauma treatments, as well as for children who haven’t told about it)! The feeling of fear, and for those who have spoken about it, the fear of retaliation’s and also the true nature of when it’s out “there” many children are shamed by their peers and mocked, and most of us know that shame, and guilt builds up and can express itself in a variety of ways but there’s just too many cases where children goes into adulthood blocking their trauma out, only for the trauma to reoccur whenever the f*ck it pleases! And if the individual teenager or adult isn’t “prepared” depression can suddenly appear from one day to the next without any warning, and without the “child’s”’consent to reappear! And a depression of that magnitude takes many forms, especially if it happened 10-12-20 years ago and even more so if the “child” never disclosed anything about what they went through! (If the latter is true then the “child” will be met with a heap of new trauma due to a lack of understanding from his/her “surroundings”! The consequences that often comes with this kind of abuse is atrocious! Getting immediate access to trauma therapy is simply not good enough! Because, it should never have happened to begin with! *THEREFORE* it’s urgent that we prioritize this issue, & engages in conversations with people from all walks of life & experiences. *We’re morally obliged too!* *Lastly! And I do believe this is vital!* *As ADULTS we don’t need to DREAD the scarcity of having to risk to talk about our own experiences if we have any! It can be contra productive if someone engages in a conversation without having dealt and coped with one’s own trauma. That’s not productive and will risk that person to spiral into a situation they weren’t prepared for, so that is something I’d advise to consider before deciding whether to tell about own experiences or keep it not secret, not at all, but what feels most comfortable for every individual is where “you” need to start engaging in this extremely important, sensitive conversation on how we as a society can help keep our children safe but without prohibiting them from experiencing and engaging themselves in the world they one day are supposed to live and be happy citizens of and hopefully productive members with positive experiences!! (Why my focus is about *we the people* is solely due to the fact if a crime haven’t been committed then the authorities (police) cannot be engaged.) Respectfully Grace 🩰

Hey andrew...i was told about this interview u did about the abuse in the boyscouts by a friend of mine on THE LIFEBOAT CHANNEL....and as a survivor of this abuse and being part of the lawsuit...i appreciate u bringing this out...and this gentleman who did the investigation...is awesome for survivors...if u want to talk about this kind abuse and what i went thru..and others....? Let me know...ill talk with you about what and how it happened...have a blessed day ...

Scouts, guide brownies is still a big thing in England. Lots of groups in North West don't know so much about southern England

Absolutely not regarding comments at minute 35. No way would my child be anywhere near what this man is saying 'they really just want to help you avoid other molesters'. Put a child near them that is appealing to that molester and all promises to help/advise go out the door. I think this is incurable. And if it was, who am I going to believe is 'cured', I ask?

Xenos is taking over the Ohio State University. My friend was raised in that cult and it’s horrible. People need to know and I’m too old to know how too. How do you get Andrew, to read comments?

@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783

5 ай бұрын

Idk but I'm interested in what you're talking about!! I'll look it up. Do you have any videos on this? You could try contacting Megan Fox the writer, attorney Melanie Little, recovery addict, uncivil law and legal vices... I can't remember everyone's names, but there's another woman amongst the group who has exposed cult groups and you might draw attention by commenting on the chat appropriately to see if they'd cover this. After the Maya case, everyone's really focused on family issues, DFS, medical issues etc. This could be something they'd like to cover and get eyes on. ❤😊❤

@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783

5 ай бұрын

Just did a little research... Yikes. I also remembered a local anti cult researcher... Thru the black... Might want to get his attention. I'll attempt to reach him as well. Since he's very close to the area, it would be a great start, imo. ❤😊❤

My sister was being Raped While we were in foster homes. My mom had to mourn for my brother who passed away at the age of 19 and my sister passed away in her early 30s do to her heart disease.My other sister became anorexic because of the rapes she had to endure every single day. But she got married and had two beautiful sons and now she has grandkids! But she is still Anorexic 😢😢😢

@victoryak86

5 ай бұрын

So sorry for such a difficult upbringing and for your loss. It is amazing that some people are able to still live a relatively healthy productive life in spite of these kinds of experiences. Yet as you say, your sister still has some issues so becoming “whole” can be a lifelong process. God is able to heal people from the deepest of wounds.

I used to volunteer for Boys and Girls Clubs who had a strict background check policy for anyone volunteering for the organization, even if they weren’t going to be interacting with kids. I remember a discussion among the board members about how frustrated they were that multiple volunteers who had been rejected ended up waltzing over to the Scouts with no issue. When a member of the Scouting org was contacted and warned… and it was suggested they needed to do background checks too… their response was they were afraid their deniability, if an incident was exposed, would be compromised. They would rather be able to say… “oh we had no idea they were a pedo because we don’t do background checks,” rather than do checks but have them slip through anyway. It made absolutely no sense to any of us. The only conclusion we could reach was that the Scouting board members that set policy couldn’t pass a background themselves. This was in the late 80’s or early 90’s, if I’m remembering correctly.

@thekeysman6760

6 ай бұрын

@InspiringNotionz I think you should research Baden-Powell and the whole organisation, then you'll realise! And the apostrophe omits something, so it's actually '80s and '90s, not "80 is" as you said. Eighties. No apostrophe. Apostrophe omits the 19. 👍

@ediesaffron3593

6 ай бұрын

@@thekeysman6760​​⁠🚨🚔👮🏻‍♂️ Uh oh, looks like the grammar police are on patrol in Andrew’s comment section! 😂 I’ve seen you leave several replies correcting the grammatical errors of other users here. Chill out lol, you aren’t proofreading a college essay. Someone who accidentally said “thankyou” while quickly typing a casual comment on the internet doesn’t need to be told that it’s actually “two words” as you so kindly reminded them. Just like @InspiringNotionz doesn’t need to be corrected either, as we all understand what they meant.

Getting closer to the Mormon madness happening. Plenty of stories to cover. ✌️

O those poor lil girls!! And that man's baby too! But how you take your allergy baby out of the house and not be HYPER vigilant on everything that isn't home made for your child? Damn there's peanuts EVERYWHERE id be scared sh less as a parent.. heck some people do that just out of spite! I work in the food industry and I personally know that if someone is seafood I'll or meat/pork r3strictive they don't keep separated enough. No way I'm surprised as he CB l there's not more problems

Hi Andrew, Are you sure Danny M has been expelled from CoS? Rumors abound about this, but I seem to recall that several of the SPTV channels have said he remains 'a scientologist in good standing'?

Come in Croatia and I will give you intervju and many other people about spiritual abuse overe here in Croatia. It was cover by TV station...

How is this a surprise for anyone?

Omg. Kevin Fernandez in California. Makes me SICK.

The sound keeps disappearing in places. Some of what I just heard helps explain to me what Michael Jackson was saying about how he loved the kids and treated them well so it wasn't the same thing at all for him compared to the monsters who prey on children. However, one boy said Michael used him, then still had him around while Michael had chosen a different boy to be with, and the rejected boy's heart was broken, and apparently this was a recurring scenario with MJ. I can see how perps believe they're good while others are bad. Humans sure can be complicated and in major denial about their own behavior. There's evidence that MJ and his brothers were used this way as children. Unfortunately, perps were often abused when they were young.

Mr gold....I hit u up once about this content that u did....and was just curious if we're interested in hearing all this information from the side of a victim of this certain situation...?? I was one if the many boys (at the time) in the late 70s that went thru this for 3 years.....and like I've said before...this gentleman u had on was a godsend for us victims....anyway...I hope to hear from you so u can kind of put an exclamation point on this story....? I'm sure your viewers would like this...take care and hope to here back from u...👍

david walliams has repeatedly hinted in interviews that he was preyed upon in the boy scouts

I feel like this is all part of a "path into the light" for the things sexuality does to human beings. On the one hand, institutions can provide power imbalances that allow "romantic self-deception" such as the ones that can affect people with pedophile tendencies to find a niche. On the other hand everybody has this irrational areas in their mind where they are subjected to tendencies out of their own control - "romantic taste", drug addicition, addiction to smoking or a lot of other areas can subvert the conscious intentional control of a person over their own life. Some of these things can be accepted as "part of life", but it can also lead to behaviors such as Armin Meiwes, who ended up acting upon his desire to becoming one with the romantic partner by eating him - if you look at the interview, almost kind of a nice guy otherwise. I wonder when the truth about all this will see the light of day - it all seems surrounded by a veritable minefield of taboos. Unfortunately right now, the accusations against pedophile scout leaders has an unhealthy alignment with an atmosphere more and more hostile to romance and sexuality in gerenal - in part of this video, there is almost a "them" of "narcissist gay boy scout leaders out to abuse children" being constructed, that is a little "too easy to hate" - imho. There is a fine line between hanging on to an "unrequited love affair" that borders on harrassment, and an abuse of power where someone "takes what they want", tricking themselves into thinking it is what the other person really wants as well (boss vs. secretary, weinstein vs. actresses, etc.) and a narcissist enjoying the act of manipulating the people they are with. But differentiation would definitely behoof the discussion.

Yes, the tribal response is because many people have been abused and can’t face it so they speak out against it because I don’t want to admit it. Or they are participants. People who haven’t had it happen or are not perpetrators WANT it to be EXPOSED. It is a widespread problem… Just read the Bible.

Hiya ❤

Also all institutional and global? Pzzagate is also of that?

@TheSapphireLeo

6 ай бұрын

Also far-left, with spiritual and truth seeking interest, hence?

Andrew I think you hear about more situations of female teachers who abuse students. So... 🤷🏻‍♀️

Oh, no what now Andrew?

I had a wonderful experience in scouting both as a Girl Scout and as a den mother in Cub Scouts. I hope scouting can be saved

It makes me very sad at how minimized children who are molested by females teachers or other positions of authority are. It was talked about in this interview on how rare it is. I'd say half the people I know who were molested; had it done to them by a woman. I know of two boys who were 10 and 13 who would go over to a 35 year old females house. She would buy them alcohol and cigarettes. Then have sex with them. That was back in the 70s. Two girls know had a gym teacher who would watch them shower after gym while touching herself. Nothing was ever done when they came forward. One guy I know was molested by his own mother. Boys don't report when it's from a female. Because they think it's consensual. And girls are too embarrassed to say anything and when they do they are egnored. Please look further into this topic.

@blazefairchild465

6 ай бұрын

You knowing more male molested by females is in itself abnormal as the figure is a ratio 1 woman xmolester vs 9 male xmolester per 10 . It’s a good reason not to trust your children to others.

Nobody expects the spanish inquisition

These are the exact positions groomers seek out. They destroy the perception of every organization they corrupt! It's nearly impossible to detect these facades, these wolves in sheep's clothing, as they perfect a way to echo your behaviors back to you, where you then "read" them as non threatening, and accept them. The best judge is a mom's gut instinct. You don't want a legal discrimination suit in some businesses, so it's very hard to get rid of them without a real cause... You might be legally challenged for firing a guy cuz he's creepy. I still would do it, but this could deter many less Irish people. 😂🍀💜 Obviously, everything I'm saying is assuming they ran the basic background checks etc. The predator doesn't care much about anything besides hunting their prey, so they'll just agree without conviction... Making them likeable to many people, especially those seeking power or looking for alliances, etc., which can gain them positions they desire. I suspect they are often agreeable, fitting in like wallpaper or going the other way, where they amass a bunch of people admiring them, likely having their self reflected to them seems totally cool...but it's all a trap, because they make you an accomplice by association so to speak, where it they go down, there will be heavy consequences for you as well. This is used by them, as a weapon in their manipulation, where they benefit from your fear of shame, fear of public scrutiny, fear of being shut down, fear of litigation if true, etc., affecting those working with them, etc. They build a wall of safety around them by their manipulation of associates. That could be you. They force you to enable, ignore or expose the both of you as your scrutinized for what you should've known. (once again, assuming all checks were already done and you didn't know better.) for this I think we should support anyone "fixing" this issue. Those aiding and abeting predators to save face wouldn't feel they have to if we support orgs fixing the issues legally and justly for the victims. I think there should be generous forgiveness and no repercussions for the organization who willingly deals with these vile offenders legally. Praising their bravery and supporting them. They were victimized as well. These predators seek out positions that offer them access to what they hunt. Think about it. If they're sitting home single, how would they get access to their prey? This is how they think. They realize this and start looking for opportunities in vulnerable organizations they think won't be able to retaliate or fight them, as the shame could overtake the innocent associate, and sink their entire organization. I expect the predators know this and use it to their advantage, as a weapon, like it's literally part of their plan. Search your area map for sex offenders and be amazed. While I have a heart against incarceration, I realize that's not good, so I defer to the men to take up consequences, but in this situation, why are so many allowed to be released back into the community to reoffend?! They need to have a location where they're sent to live out their days away from society. We should not have these people forced on us by the state being weaker in sentencing, even than my sympathies. Keep them away from society forever in a place built just for them. We can be humane to them, but keep them away, first offense. No second chance to offend a child. Ever. and, I'm not talking about the teenagers dating and one is a year or two older... That's another issue. I'm talking about actual child molesters and those with images can join them because they're ticking time bombs. Use this chomo island to study them by psychologists, with checks and balances to ensure none get swept away by their manipulation, etc. Just some thoughts as I watch, I could be horribly wrong, to which I would apologize because I only want the best for children, communities and a just recourse for the victims who shouldn't fear these perps being released! God comfort all affected. 💜🙏🏻😔🕯️❣️🌸

Andrew, I wanted to tell you that there are a couple of people who you should take an interest in. Your friend A Aron. Is an important person in this and that Mark and His Wife are fake people makes me mad. If you look back at Mark talking to A-aron and Mike about him not being in the least interested in ever getting more followers than Scientology.

So, any man that seems just a bit too eager to be a scout leader has to be thoroughly vetted! Unless, of course, he's a man of the cloth.

I worked in a special needs school...a side hug was an option...

I’m wondering if the kids themselves should be given instructions and examples of what’s an ok touch and what’s not based on age? I mean more than the usual school talks. Maybe literally before each camp trip as part of the safety talk so it’s an open and clear topic to them and it’s ok to tell and they are asked to tell? 🤷🏼‍♀️I dunno, just thinking out loud. Sadly most predators were abused themselves so if a 15 year old was abused at 5, he’s likely to do the same.😢

@katee8147

6 ай бұрын

Yup informed consent is easy to teach from birth. Teaching your children to say no, be assertive. Tell tell tell if they are concerned.

@thekeysman6760

6 ай бұрын

@LynnHfromCO I'd hope that due to the natural shyness of a child regarding the body that they would know inherently when it's not okay. I did. Otherwise, they aren't being brought up properly by their parents or parent. And when it's just a 'parent', then those children are very often the victims to be chosen. There's a fine line regarding what you should prepare them for as you imply if you think about it. Btw, " before each camp"? Yeah, just "before" will do! Before is before, literally! Don't misuse the word, eh?

@susanfifi285

6 ай бұрын

​@@thekeysman6760I think people have the right to use whatever words they want!!! This is not an English exam.

@thekeysman6760

6 ай бұрын

@@susanfifi285 I think people do too; but they must use the words they choose correctly if they want to be understood by all & not promote misuse. Very clever to point out we're not in an English exam, yet to forget that language & spell-ings are how we are divided, controlled, & misled, let alone since 2020, is missing the bigger picture of unity of the people through proper communication. But I'm sure you have valid reasons for ignoring that and communicating with me in the way that you have, eh? It's not all about you, though. Be well.

@susanfifi285

6 ай бұрын

@@thekeysman6760 whatever

KOS on a CHOMO.

Scouts founded by a know Offender

I was sexually abused by a female family member from 5 to 8 years old.

@thekeysman6760

6 ай бұрын

Oh. I'm sorry to hear that, sister. That seems a bit more uncommon. Or maybe it just isn't heard of publicly so much, akin to protecting a boy from being thought of as gay due to his abuse. Similarly, I was abused by a male doctor when I was around 8 years old, but in full view of my mother! So I see her as complicit. Coincidentally, her mother's side of the family, my uncle, was accused of such by my second cousins. I could always see the wrongness from young, and eventually it came out when they were all old enough. The uncle then got cancer really bad and died quite quickly. Is the woman who abused you still alive? And I easily forgave the doctor, but not my mother. How is it for you now?

@katee8147

6 ай бұрын

@@thekeysman6760 that’s tough buddy. Lotsa therapy to understand it’s not ok. Lotsa predators out there hey! Yes still alive. I have not repeated the pattern & worked in advocacy for animal/ care in disability sector & ethics & empowerment for mandatory reporting of abuse!

Stop it stop gossiping about other people

@thekeysman6760

6 ай бұрын

Huh? Are you a child abuser? So shut up. Have some empathy for the victims at least! 🤦‍♂️

@powderandpaint14

6 ай бұрын

This is not gossip, it's journalism.