Your camera men deserve a lot of praise lol .. they're always running around to get the shot

@handduggraverdronline

Жыл бұрын

That's their job

@handduggraverdronline

Жыл бұрын

Good job Jonny. You came in last place but here's a trophy for participating. Lzzzzz

@mrPauljacob

Жыл бұрын

@@handduggraverdronline shut up

Garage54 is one of the best car youtube channels out there. Never any click bait and no BS. Keep it up!

@calebr4191

Жыл бұрын

Click bait titles that ALWAYS deliver

Maybe bigger circles to digging a little deeper would probably help because if it digs deeper than there’s more to bite and therefore more propulsion but just a thought you guys are amazing

@nigelqflarp

Жыл бұрын

Also to dig deeper for clearance for the rear axle pumpkin, which hangs lower than the drive shaft. Maybe tapered front to back.

@600wheel

Жыл бұрын

No it’s meant for very deep liquid mud the kind that Americans use trucks with 40+ inch tires into where the mud is basically liquid it’s a stupid pointless thing in this situation because unless it’s basically the only thing on the ground something is going to hang it up you’re never going to get enough surface area pushing against ground that is solid enough to actually do anything

@UberLummox

Жыл бұрын

@@600wheel Yeah it didn't really do much as he said. I was thinking it was more for rock crawling, but maybe I can see it helping in mud, but I wouldn't think it would help that much. Just my guess.

@600wheel

Жыл бұрын

@@UberLummox it only works in the mud where it’s basically like water and it doesn’t work that well but sometimes all you need is just a tiny little bit to get you back into the traction zone again but like I said the machine has basically gotta be floating on its own tires before it really does much the guys actually find it works better when they put a propeller on the backside of the pumpkin because most of them are running military axles that have an input and output on the top of the pumpkin for the Piñon so axles can be put together in tandem or more depending on the weight you want to haul and even then the propeller doesn’t do much more than the screws but it does do something and when there’s $10,000 on the line for the first person who can make it through the hole you will try any little trick to get you a little bit more. And as far as rock crawling something like that would be known as a rock magnet if anything guys want to find ways to make their driveshaft smaller not bigger there’s no situation where something like that wouldn’t cause more problems than it’s worth you would have a great deal of added weight meaning vibration you would have a massive driveshaft that would hang up all the time and likely bend. And I’m not a guy punching a keyboard I’m a guy who was very heavily in the offloading world before I broke my back and rock crawling was what I loved trust me that wouldn’t benefit in anyway and if you think I’m wrong just go to an off-road rock crawling message board and ask those guys that question and believe me you will not get nearly as polite of an answer but you will definitely get an answer

@UberLummox

Жыл бұрын

@@600wheel Haha cool! Thanks.

I don't know how I could keep on going without this show i am from ontario canada and I will make sure to support you guys as best I can with our high value dollar I verry much like to see everyone on your show thrive while sticking to your roots all at the same time the entertainment you guys have given has saved me from suicide and I want to thank everyone from the bottom of my heart involved in the show

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

he's got a great imagination to keep coming up with great new content

Reminds me of the screw driven tractors. The US made one called Armstead Snow Motor and Russia made a ZIL-2906

@csi1392

Жыл бұрын

tyco made the terrain twister

The concept is good. You should try it in deep snow, it might work better there.

@friendlycanadianhalfbreed13.5

Жыл бұрын

i agree yup deep snow would be better

You guys should build twin screw tracks on the rear of this thing

@erigabu

Жыл бұрын

I think they already created something similar with barrels..

Bigger screw threads , this is a cool idea! It does have potential .

@teardowndan5364

Жыл бұрын

And an actuator to keep the differential's input pointing slightly down. In most of the clips, you see the differential's input going up whenever torque gets applied and that raises the screw by 3-4cm.

@kirdot2011

Жыл бұрын

@@teardowndan5364 yes but too bad they dont seem to pay attention to the comments and the ones that they do notice is a new project rather than improving on the old one

Imagine that vibration 😂😂

@volvo09

Жыл бұрын

A top speed run would be terrifying!

@600wheel

Жыл бұрын

@@volvo09 14 kph

Those Ladas were designed and built for the unpaved roads of the USSR, hence why it performs so well offroad all by itself. Simple, tough and inexpensive transportation. Great video!

G54 is now the best off-roading channel on KZread. Make the blades even bigger near the differential.

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

they are the best at testing what would happen if we try this channel which is way better

Y’all did it the hard way, but It’s not like they could go to the local tractor supply store and get an auger attachment for a tractor 🤣🤣 I love the idea tho!

@kevinfitzpatrick5949

Жыл бұрын

More $$$

I think you're right it digs a groove to clear the differential and that can be enough to get through . Thanks for the videos .

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

the screw should have been the whole length of the drive shaft cause it digs into the ground it would have a better chance of moving the car if it were longer

107% success i'd say

@UberLummox

Жыл бұрын

Yeah in throwing the balance of the shaft. That's all.

@thestreetlightchannel3945

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

This might be a good thing to have when mud holing. Going through a deep mud hole the blades could act like a prop to help propel you forward through the mud.

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

it would be good if the first did a practice without the screw to figure out a base line for the test and then where the car gets stuck they can focus on testing the blades there

once the screw clears the dirt, you have nothing left. might work in a silty river edge where everything will drop deep enough to get traction.

@600wheel

Жыл бұрын

It’s built for very deep mud bogs where the mud is basically liquid and the tires are no longer touching hard ground because the vehicle is floating that’s where the design is used it’s an old trick here in Mudbog country competition Mudbog nowhere in the real world are you going to find justification for something like that but not mind losing massive amounts of ground clearance Except maybe if you are actually loading your 4 x 4 in a lake but then the tires rotating give you forward motion this screw drive shaft has one use and one application

The main thing I like about these Ladas is that the simple design allows them to last a life time with plenty of space to work with for upgrades and maintenance hell just by looking in the engine bay pretty much every thing is easy to reach and replace when needed I wish it was possible to get one in the US.

Bigger auger threads and a locked rear end would make that thing go pretty much anywhere, also notice the differential has a lot of axial wind-up. Find a way to make the rear end not wind up so much and the auger won’t be pulling itself off the dirt so much, pillow-block bearings and support brackets perhaps? The idea is cool as hell, but quite possibly impractical 🤷🏻‍♂️.

It might work on hard soil. Wet soil gives no reaction force. Love it.

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

he should have made the car amphibious that would have been interesting to see how it worked in the water

Holy shit, they finally bought a plasma cutter.

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

it's to high they need the screw to be closer to the ground that way it hits more stuff when you drive it🤣

Make 2 screws where the frame rails are on both side of the car. Then it can drive like a screw tank but just be a few inches higher than the tires.

Good idea... But we need a screw with a MUCH steeper thread pitch. It looks like the screw digs in and slings stuff out of the way, rather than providing screw propulsion. Another option is a low range gear box so that the screw spins slower. A secondary concern is if the driveshaft is strong enough to support the vehicle while spinning and pulling mud out of the way...

"It's all very curious and questionable" Perfect, right up your alley. Also, seems like just add some floats and you have an amphibious car.

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

it's stall but then the engines a bit cold love it🤣

Revisit this in winter. This would work great in deep snow

I wonder what twists most - the corkscrew or the Lada's weakened chassis! 😁

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

I say both it's a 50 50 situation the lada twists 50% and the prop shaft the other 50%🤣

Bigger screw threads close to size of rear diff to work properly so it digs a trench for the diff to slide threw, put the same style on a mud trk n works great

I just love seeing such a beat up car still driving around, it's interesting. it looks like something from a post apocalyptic movie or game.

@mattiasakerblom3426

Жыл бұрын

try the game DayZ there are old Russian cars and the map is inspired by Russia

There is a use for that. Make a bucket with a spout and have a Lada salt spreader for winter. Or use it to make crops with seeds. Like farm equipment

In Tennessee we have a motto: "As Long As Your Movin You Aint Stuck"

You should use that on the car boat to make it move in the water better

@600wheel

Жыл бұрын

In those situations you just weld a simple propeller through the driveshaft and do you know how you know that would work better because if a screw works better than a propeller you would see screws hanging out the back of boats

@AlienLivesMatter

Жыл бұрын

@@600wheel it took 2000 years for humans to go from rolling tree stumps to wheels. I'm sure a version of you was saying exactly the same things back then

@600wheel

Жыл бұрын

@@AlienLivesMatter The propeller is actually just a section of a screw the propeller was created from the screw so the propeller is the next generation after the screw going back to a screw would be going back not forward. So yes the smart guys back then we’re going how do we make this more efficient and lighter and work better and there was an idiot going add more screw and there was another guy saying no let’s make it smaller and lighter and just use a section of it. So once again who is the idiot here

How about making a metal paddle wheel which can lower to the ground for ultimate traction. Or maybe a second axle that turns with the first but a few inches off the ground that way on pavement and good roads it does not touch but mud sand the factory tires sink a bit allowing the metal paddle axle to dig in and push out out.

You must make big circle, clean and precision

Use that driveshaft on the floating car. The one with the trophy atv tires. It would add more propulsion.

The gearbox mounts are so warn the screw lifts of the ground

Ahaa! Garage 54 - We prove these things don't work, so you don't have to!😁

This really demonstrates what benefit is from 4WD/AWD drive versus RWD.

Works better with higher ground clearence pickup trucks which have no added weight in the box, help like propeller when under water

Solid! Top KEK!

It would work better if the prop shaft and rear wheels spun at the same rate...

Hey guys I think the blades need to be bigger and try to put solide motor mountings same for the transmission and the rear need to stay down too . Thanks guys love the channel 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

make the screw drive from bigger circles, angle grind away the excess weld from the outer edges of the circles, the excess weld acts like a saw which removes material, and we're supposed to go across the material, not remove it and make a super low gear for the screw drive to properly do its thing instead of throw all the material out the back.

“Battle Chariot”… lol that…going to use that phrase

I think it won't really work in the Lada because it doesn't have a transfer case with low range. So the propshaft doesn't have enough torque behind it.

@600wheel

Жыл бұрын

Pork has nothing to do with it it is a design that was made up for trucks that go into mud bog competitions where the mud is so deep the truck is now floating because of the tires in the tires aren’t touching the hard bottom the driveshaft gives you a slight amount of forward motion hoping you will gain traction again it is not something that has any real world Applications

If you put it behind the rear axle and set it up so you could push it down further and maybe lift part of the rear wheels it might work better

I noticed the wheels spin faster than the screw advances. I think the screw should be the same speed as the wheels, or maybe faster. Lowering the ratio from the differential to the wheels could improve things. You might still need to make the screw larger. The screw-driven tanks have really big screws. Trying to match the screw pitch to the one they used on the tanks might be a good idea, too.

The scariest thing I can imagine is that after a whole day of hard work, we realized the blades were in the wrong direction.

The blades obviously need to be larger.

That thing is used in mud pits where the mud is at least 5ft deep and basically liquid

Definitely has some potential. A Lada lawnmower would be cool!

@blackriflex39

Жыл бұрын

theyve done that...

Now add a way to keep it afloat and try it in water!

Grt work

You should try to stretch a car widder, like the VW Lamando 5XL

even if it grabs the ground it wouldnt work on soft mud. simple physics. it needs a hard surface to get the resistance needed to push off the ground.

They just used an I've hope sugar but I like how you guys did it much more robust

"A Lada would've made it through anyway." And that's why experiments need a control Lada to compare to. :)

13:53 play it slow and you see how the prop shafts gets lifted up from the dirt as you load it up, maybe a more solid center mount for the prop so it cant flex out of the way could help?

Great sucses!

this would work better if driving over MX whoops, in this case I believe the problem is your driving in ruts which highcenters the car in an unwanted axis.

Lada submarine!

just remove the back wheels and swap them for counter rotating screws so you het a "half track" lada

@blackriflex39

Жыл бұрын

theyve all ready done that

That potato gun car is gonna get sent straight to the frontline.

Wonder if a treadmill skid-plate would work better.

Could u bould an electric powered lada powered by a flywheel as was used in Gyrobus from the 1950's. There is no need for batteries or an engine. Would be interesting to see how far it would drive and what the handling would be like with a big gyroscope in the car.

I think if the blades were longer and at more of an angle it'd work pretty good.

should have made the screw taper from the size in the front to twice the dia. in the rear

Man you gotta build the Mole from Thunderbirds 2 or convert a Lada to Thunderbird 4 :D

Needs to be larger. Also I would like to see it in deep snow

How about Putting floatation devices on the car and see if the screw will propel the car thru water as in , on a pond or lake?

Nothing one inch longer than things dragging will move you. The screw would have to have at least 8 inches of dig...and even then would do nothing if trying to drag the rear axle.

Pls make the screw larger in outer diameter 🤘😎

the old mans 1st mistake was not allowing one of the young bucks to drive it 1st.If there is a weak link-they will find it,,,fast.

You should try to make an electric car from a lada diy style

Imagin a cat sleep under a car with a prop shaft like that the cat go shread

DAMN I THOUGHT YOU WERE MAKING A BOAT CAR!

Mint

Turn a Lada into a boat !

Should do this with boat props and then drive through water.

I was thinking making a blower run off the drive shaft have a button you touched when you're racing the drive shaft spinning at high speed hit the button and hope for a few more pounds of boost probably not but I'd like to try it. Keep up the great work

I would still like to see you guys make a legit off road vehicle. A 4x4 something with some major agricultural type tires

Blades must be switch because when you drive forward the propeller would propell the car backward if flat on the ground the video shows that clearly this will cause that the wheels wil propell against the propeller or as we call it a auger what I suggest is the switch the blades but make it bigger and put a pillow block bearing on the propshaft because the weight is pushing it in the body and there for make this a redundant mod just a suggestion

@eh6971

Жыл бұрын

No

you should make the quitest Lada

Please do another magnetic suspension maybe even a car that runs on magnets

I like the looks of the truck you are driving What did look like when it was new? What year is it?

@crown674

Жыл бұрын

You mean the purple car. It used to be a station wagon (VAZ-2104). Those guys have cut the rear portion of the car with saws. The year of manufacture could be anywhere between 1984-2012. Either way, there used to be a few factory made pick-ups which were built on the base of this model. They were called VIS-2345, there were even versions to pull semi trailers called VIS-23454.

Colin fruze made a screw driven machine kind of like this.

I cannot believe that the prop shaft did not just get a bent and the snap. !!

@csi1392

Жыл бұрын

after twisting a few i know they are too soft to snap, and they have lots of spring for bending. after being welded on who knows?

Would love to see sand and gravel

Needs to be bigger and I think it needs to be reversed as you can tell it worked great in reverse but once you began to go forward it seemed like it was holding the car back!

Bigger drill flutes and taller front tires.

I was thinking an in water thing

I wanted to put a tank tread bottom on my fwd car because im always getting stuck

Hey, this would work much better in water, I'd like to see you make an amphibous car with propshaft screw

Gas powered, clutch enabled, meat grinder.

Maybe doing on a 4x4 instead! More like Uaz! And maybe made the blades larger!👌😂👍

put some bar tires on the back

once it is in the mud and your stuck..... would be hell to pull it out... would think

%50 success

It needs paddles on back tiers

make floats to the site of the car and make a boat of it

Good try and you have proven it's not practical. Maybe build auxiliary screws that can be lowered on each side. Would take more hydraulics to run them and raise and lower.

Try a snowmobile track