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Title: 300,000$. Literally 2 seconds in: 250,000$.
@eddie_23
Жыл бұрын
it fits better i guess
@smaspa8627
Жыл бұрын
Eh factor in the cost of the engineer running the thing
@mirfalltnixein.1
Жыл бұрын
@@eddie_23 Yeah, I realize that's why they do it, but calling your own title out for lying 2 seconds in is still pretty funny.
@CallumPlayzAu
Жыл бұрын
inflation 😅
@madeinstien
Жыл бұрын
Well, it depreciated in value that fast
One thing to watch out for is the low temperature resistance of PLA if people wanna print for automotive use, I've had parts deform within minutes in summer. Stick to ABS (If not exposed to UV), PETG, ASA, PA12 or PP if you can get it to print 👌
@jonytube
Жыл бұрын
Given that most interior car parts are made of PP, I'd probably print out of it
@dotJata
Жыл бұрын
They shoulda collaborated with you instead! ;)
@alexteichner9988
Жыл бұрын
Glad to see Angus helping clarify some of the information in this video. Keep up the good work my dude
@everettebinger5956
Жыл бұрын
@@dotJata Totally agree!
@schweglerd
Жыл бұрын
So weird to see these 2 worlds come together
Massive props to Bob for coming up to an uncalibrated printer he's never used and actually producing something useful within a few hours. I've been designing, printing and selling 3D printed parts for over 5 years now. "So the printer just failed... Sometimes it happens" has got to be the understatement of the year. 3D printers are finicky af even with the best processes in place. Edit: Also, that tan PEEK material he's talking about in the SLS segment, is about $0.60 *per gram*, so not exactly cheap. PLA plastic as used in the FDM desktop printer is closer to 0.02$/g.
@asicdathens
Жыл бұрын
All metal high temp hotend + good heated bed + cheap enclosure you can print PEEK as well. Filament is VERY expensive though
@elitewolverine
Жыл бұрын
i get failed prints, but never at the level or frequency I see others get. Perhaps my corner of the house is just 'better' for printing? Even my polycarbonate prints nearly all the time without issue.
@sp0764
Жыл бұрын
@@elitewolverine I'm with you. Every failed print has a reason for failure, it's just a game of tracking down and eliminating those bugs.
@elitewolverine
Жыл бұрын
@@sp0764 Yup. I took less than 2hrs to get my ender 5 plus dialed in, and then I never touched it for like 7 months in terms of tweaking. I simply made sure the bed was dust free, hit print, and I knew every print would work. And my failure rate was less than 5% give or take a percent. In fact failure was so low, it was a fluke. I could hit print and it would work. Perhaps I got lucky? THough my ender 6 I just setup this weekend, has now produced 15 prints over 2 days with only 1 'error' where the letters on the bottom of the E3D buggy test print were messed up but the whole print still printed, and is lovely.
@sp0764
Жыл бұрын
@@elitewolverine my first printer was an ender 5 and it's almost the same story for me. It's an excellent printer. It should be recommend as a first printer over the ender 3 because of the z axis being on the bed. Helps it be very accurate and reliable.
Bob showing up in this episode is the crossover I never expected… but apparently the one we needed.
That Ender is not one of the cheapest printers you could buy. It's actually considered a decent printer in the 3D printing community. Especially that model of Ender 3 lol. You can get much cheaper.
@BurittoSandwich
Жыл бұрын
And with tons of mod support, you can actually make it a pretty decent printer that could handle basically any filament.
@MTNDEWGANG
Жыл бұрын
@@BurittoSandwich yep, just direct drive upgraded my base ender 3 and got a new board with silent drivers. Prints petg and tpu like a champ.
@PabzRoz
Жыл бұрын
@@BurittoSandwich Tell me about it lol. SKR mini v3, CR touch, dual gear metal extruder, Dragonfly BMS hotend, new thermistor, custom part cooling duct, raspberry pi with a webcam for octoprint, glass bed, noctua fan mods on all the fans, etc. etc. Once I started I couldn't stop. It's an addiction. And all of that is just a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of mods and customization you can do with that printer.
@astrofeeder777
Жыл бұрын
false. ender is a cheap model lmfao. prusa printers are twice the cost of an ender and theyre made out of 3d printed components. the point he was making wasnt necessarily about quality anyway, he said its one of the cheapest, not one of the worst. but id never buy an ender lmfao.
@MTNDEWGANG
Жыл бұрын
@@astrofeeder777 He never said it wasn't expensive. He stated that it's not the cheapest on the market, there's printers that are wayyyy cheaper than the ender 3's.
I did expect a bit more from this episode to be honest. There are so many options and applications for cars. Like refining prints by sanding filling and painting them to really make them look like bought parts. Missing out on all the awesome metal prints that are available these days. Like F1 uses them.
@graealex
Жыл бұрын
One important application for FDM printers is to make molds for carbon-fiber parts. Which directly nets you automotive-grade, heat-resistant and light-weight parts.
As someone who has a $300 3-D printer, I personally think it prints really high-quality parts, not high enough to be in cars, but high enough to be desk toys.
@beavonmoranga9048
7 ай бұрын
its shitty to be honest . I bought anycubic kobra max. damn i regret my choice
@Tim2716
7 ай бұрын
@@beavonmoranga9048 I feel bad for you.
@archemides1517
7 ай бұрын
@@Tim2716 nowawdays 300 you can get a pretty good printer i got my ender 3 s1 for like 270 it comes with a CR Touch which to me is now mandatory on all printers and after leveling the bed knobs could print great prints even better and at 150mm after i got klipper installed on it
@Grant3758
4 ай бұрын
Thinking of buying a printer to help organize my garage? Looking at svo6 and ender 3s? Thanks
@pine1780
2 ай бұрын
@@Tim2716 Custom mounting brackets for pc parts it seems like a steal. Sometimes smaller based things are needed to fit a part but isn't a thing. For example internal temperature LCD screens, they're so different to each one, you need to have custom printed bracket.
The quality of a print really depends on tuning. I have an ender 3 that had terrible quality but then when I properly tuned it, the parts coming off the bed look almost injection molded
@creavityatrandom
Жыл бұрын
What did you tune yours to?
@chy4e431
Жыл бұрын
@@creavityatrandom calibrate e steps, level bed, install bltouch or similar, calibrate flow, calibrate retraction distance/speed, calibrate temperature. there are plenty of good guides for this online
@honkhonk8009
Жыл бұрын
My ender3 straight up came perfectly calibrated from the start lmfao Its insane how they built nowadays.
@chy4e431
Жыл бұрын
@@honkhonk8009 meh, ender 3 are notorious for bad quality. I have an ender 3v2, while esteps are perfectly calibrated the fans started breaking after a few months and its now unbearable to be in the same room as the printer.
@LithicKing
Жыл бұрын
@@honkhonk8009 it wont last, it will fall out of calibration over time
A cool project for low car would be to design a cosmetic hood scoop to cover up that elephant trunk sticking out of the hood left after doing the v8 swap. You could 3D print a mold and use it to fabricate a carbon fiber component to bond to the hood. It's not as hard as it sounds but would make that hood look like you did it on purpose instead of leaving the hood rough cut with a hose sticking out.
@markoz673bajen8
Жыл бұрын
Hi Low Car and Jerry's Bike Project I hope would happen someday.
@parallelsandtangents938
Жыл бұрын
Or 3d print it with polycarbonate filament.
@imjstcl
Жыл бұрын
That nose is an absolute tragedy on a very cool car
@Justsayin71
Жыл бұрын
They don’t do anything challenging anymore
@rikkatheconure2395
Жыл бұрын
Hi rob
This has got to be one of the most realistic demonstrations of 3D printers I've seen. Most channels just show things working in usually ideal conditions, but anyone who has worked with 3D printers knows the pain that Bob went through delivering for this video.
The sound effects every time Nolan fixes his glasses always get me lol
I'd like to see them 3D print the ridge wallet in both machines then compare them.
@R3D_Lantern
Жыл бұрын
That's a great idea right here.
@reubenmiller2142
Жыл бұрын
That would be jokes, probably some IP legal issues though
@GlorifiedGremlin
Жыл бұрын
I don't think you can print an actual carbon fiber weave tho lol
@supersandwich8967
Жыл бұрын
@@GlorifiedGremlin who knows maybe some might
@supersandwich8967
Жыл бұрын
@@reubenmiller2142 unless you call it the bridge wallet
As someone who's been 3d printing for 7 years, I hate the misinformation, but glad to see the episode.
@logostouwy1715
Жыл бұрын
As someone who knows nothing about 3d printing, what was the misinformation
@superjive8282
Жыл бұрын
Would also like to know what the misinformation was
@ExtraFungus
Жыл бұрын
@@superjive8282 prices, print quality, some of the names of the materials were wrong. Production takes a while, so it's understandable prices would be wrong, but the ender 3 has been under $200 for years, and goes on sale for $100 if you're near a microcenter. Don't get it twisted, even with the mistakes and misinformation, it's still a good episode. I find it comical they did better with information on the Pontiac Fiero episode when everyone else butchers it, but they did worse on a 3d printing episode.
@R3D_Lantern
Жыл бұрын
Good to know. Thanks.
@patrickrhoades480
Жыл бұрын
@@superjive8282 It's not the cheapest 3d printer. It's the best bang for your buck printer. Also I doubt that those discs will survive in the interior in the summer heat. Most filaments the ender 3 can print will hit glass transition temps in the summer heat in the interior. For car interiors you can upgrade the ender 3 with an all metal hot end, steel nozzle, enclosure, fume extractor and an upgraded thermistor and print nylons, abs and polycarbonates that will survive the heat of the interior and engine bay. Even with those upgrades the ender 3 is the best bang for your buck. The printer that's a step up are the prusa 3d printers but will cost more than an ender 3 upgraded for higher temp filament (if I remember correctly) while only being able to print the same filaments as a stock ender 3. You pay more for the prusa for a bigger build area, higher accuracy and shorter print times which can make a huge difference on larger prints with more complicated geometries. The prusa is also less fussy compared to the ender 3
3d printers are getting pretty insane and I love to see where the industry is going you can print anything from plastic to metal to carbon fiber to glass to wood to concrete and everything in between
A highly modified ender 3 can produce the same quality print with a smaller print nozzle and a slicer setting to match. The price really only reflects size of print volume, ringing in prints, and and maybe other featuress like an I closure to keep the air arround the part warm. I reccomend Carbonfiber Nylon, it's what I use for my Saab parts (NACA ducts, replacement trim, brackets)
@MrAlexgiu
Жыл бұрын
these are car guys, 3DP is another language to them
@honkhonk8009
Жыл бұрын
@@MrAlexgiu Wouldnt that mean the polar opposite? Most car guys ik are big on DIY shit. 3D printers are worth it in hobby stuff in general.
@MrAlexgiu
Жыл бұрын
@@honkhonk8009 its a sense of mechanical vs electrical/computer science
Ender 3 is quite a powerful 3d printer. There's definetly worse printers to do for a cheap printer comparison. Most of its printii capability is based on the user's ability to tune it
@skitterlitter
Жыл бұрын
It’s actually not the Ender 3 it’s the Ender 3 S1
@fabiofanf3e813
Жыл бұрын
@@skitterlitter so its just an even better ender 3?
@DemonicAnimatronic
Жыл бұрын
@@fabiofanf3e813 sort of, it’s got a lot different. It has a sprite direct drive extruder, self leveling with matrix sensor. dual lead screws on the z axis. Filament run out detection (that they didn’t even setup properly in the video) the list goes on compared to a standard Ender 3.. mind you an Ender three is also only like $150.00. But the failures in this video are user error and not actually setting the printer up properly (which is super easy with the S1 because of the CR touch sensor.
@natecas0865
Жыл бұрын
I have a CR-10 and I can attest to the statement that most of its printing capability is based on the user's ability to tune it 😂 Definitely not the easiest to tune correctly, but once you do the printer is amazing for its price
@JonBergacs
Жыл бұрын
I have an ender 3. I Have had amazing results with mine. Once you dial it in its amazing. The biggest difference for me was the addition of a glass plate. My ender 3 is the generation before that one but still prints amazingly.
"Hi, I'm Bob at I Like to Drive Stuff!" When Bob mentioned he had done some collaboration with y'all I was super excited because he's one of my long time faves and Donut is a newer fave. This is an awesome combination and I hope there is more to come!
Had to pause, absolutely love the old NCIS reference. That scene always made me crack up laughing.
At about 9:25... Love the honesty. Watching a 3d printer falls somewhere between watching paint dry, and watching grass grow.
Ah yes the MakerBot replicator a SLS printer. 🤣 @2:15
I work for Stratasys programming these machines and setting up builds. They are super simple to use and you can adjust things easily. We make parts for all sorts of industries. We don’t use supports though. My facility does SLS and FDM, MJF mainly. Fun job being able to build whatever my mind can come up with to a point. I’ve made parts for my motorcycle and a lot of figurines. Very interesting field to say the least.
A few errors: When mentioning SLA/SLS, the editor shows a picture of another FDM machine (Makerbot). There is no consumer SLS machine, and they are quite different from SLA, using lasers to melt powered plastic. SLA uses uses UV lasers or LCD panels masking a UV light source to cure a vat of liquid resin into a part. Bob would know this. It’s “StRatasys”, not “STATasys” as Zach called it. The biggest benefit to the more expensive FDM printers is the ability to print the exotic high temp materials. For production quantities that don’t require those exotic plastics, other printers like SLA or MJF can produce production lots of parts less expensively. PEEK is an amazing plastic, but it is VERY expensive because of that. People trying to get their car parts out of PEEK might be shocked at the quoted print prices.
@Nicksperiments
Жыл бұрын
Out of the errors, him saying statasys bothered me the most
@Lucas_sGarage
Жыл бұрын
actually form labs just dropped one, the fuse 1, its a "hobby grade" SLS 3d printer
I started out with an ender 3. I've upgraded the hot end, motherboard and added a touch screen and it has always worked great. I've printed several car parts in carbon fiber nylon.
Totally awesome to see Bob just show up in a Donut video!
3D printing truly is a game changer. I remember 15 years ago when 3D printers were commerical only and were less powerful than the home ones you and I could buy. I've printed so many different things. Love it
@kristofk1902
Жыл бұрын
Maybe it’s the cheapest one that actually works
@TheBreaded
Жыл бұрын
7 years ago wasn't that long ago. From then to now the main thing has been a race to the bottom on price. But even 5-6 years ago we a had a lot of the same cheap 3d printers we have today in their initial form. The CR-10 is 6 years old.
@joeno4683
Жыл бұрын
Reprap project started in 05 and commercial mainstream hobbyist printers have been around since 2012. Hobbyist FFF printers went commercial when Scott Crump’s patent on FDM (Stratasys) expired in 2009. Similar thing happened with EOS’ patent on SLA. More like 10-12 years ago instead of 7.
@Foxtrot_Foxtrot_Lima
Жыл бұрын
Did you read that before you posted it? First, 3D printers have been out way longer than 7 years. Second, if they were "commercial only" you wouldn't be buying a home one. Do you know what the word "only" even means?
@EconomicsMate1
Жыл бұрын
@@joeno4683 simple mistake on my part mate. I meant to write 15 not 7 🤷
I like how at the high end high production print shop, you can see all the neat little projects the employees work on in their spare time like that boot or the mew lol it was the exact same way when my dad worked at a metal fab shop in the military. Everybody had cool metal stuff they'd made. They made my dad an entire sword when he retired lol
@Maderasdesign
Жыл бұрын
My favorite are the muffler shops that weld a tin man out of used pipes and mufflers lol.
@staykota117
Жыл бұрын
That's why they do it because they have a love for it and enjoy it. Yes they work and build things for customers and what not but you always have to have time to build your own fun projects
@johnathonsmith6893
Жыл бұрын
I'm in tool and die and when I'm not building for the company I'm either marching tools for me to use or just a fun little project
@i8urbabi
Жыл бұрын
@@johnathonsmith6893 Yeah if i didn't tinker I wouldn't learn anything new. Because trying something different and learn something new can make us realize we've wasted so much time doing things a different way.
@natekeyawa5340
Жыл бұрын
Why not half a sword?
I’m subbed to ILTMS and Bob’s one person who is never expect to see on Donut. 😂 This is a collab I did not see coming.
Bro the lil squeak when Nolan pushes up his glasses gets me every time
This is the crossover I didn't think I needed BUT MAN, I am glad this happened
@KingSalto
Жыл бұрын
Same here!
@WovenThorns
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been paying more close attention to the Donut Media channel since Bob mentioned it on his podcast. I subscribe to both, but don’t always watch every video. Super fun to see him here. Maybe next we have Donut vs Jimmy Diresta on modifying a truck bed. 😋
@rikkatheconure2395
Жыл бұрын
Sup kev
You guys should try and get someone to show you a metal printer. I know they're common in aerospace but I wouldn't be surprised if they're used for turbo intakes, manifolds, and any weirdly shaped mounting brackets and supports
@alexteichner9988
Жыл бұрын
I've heard of them being used in NASCAR
@jakegarrett8109
Жыл бұрын
Koenigsegg makes their entire variable vane turbocharger for one, not just a turbo intake.
@MaxC_1
Жыл бұрын
they are often used in F1 for testing out new parts and designs for cheap and SLS printers aka 3D Metal printers are not very uncommon so should be easy to find
@leviathan19
Жыл бұрын
papadakis racing youtube channel and you will see metal 3d printing of exhaust manifold on inconel if I can remember right
@alexteichner9988
Жыл бұрын
@@leviathan19 that's a serious alloy
That $300,000 printer under extruding 😆, also the vertex part was probably like $40 in material 😆
@snowboardik
4 ай бұрын
it is not, it is just have bigger (than reprap standard 0.4) nozzles and 0.254mm minimum layer high preset
@Mitsuolevel
4 ай бұрын
Nozzle size would not enough if it's not putting out enough filment because it's going to fast or is to cold
@snowboardik
4 ай бұрын
The gaps you see on the top is because this gaps are smaller than the nozzle diameter, and apparently stratasys slicer not so advanced as a modern open source ones. It is not underextrushion, all strats prints like that and bonding between layers is exceptional, it just looks ugly and always has been like that
I like how with the expensive one he was like "This looks like shit, and we hear that a lot... but imagine you wanted 1,000!" If I was wanting 1,000 identical parts, I sure as hell don't want them to look like THAT. Also the blue MSLA prints at the end had visible layer lines. The Mars 2 Pro I used years ago printed better looking parts. Was this a "quick, just hit GO" type demo with the lowest settings they could find?
Hi, 3DPrinting specialist here. Awesome video, I know when starting in a new area can be overwhelming with information, principally 3dprinting that is growing exponentially. I also understand why is important to break down to make easier to understand. Although I wanted that you break apart about the different types of 3d printer. Hopefully you guys start learning more and more about the slicer you are using, and soon you guys can get even better parts. Congrats in general!
0:34 oh yeah let me buy a ridge walet, it's a flamethrower resistant! -said nobody ever
*Amazing video! Please do more of these!*
Jobe comes in like the mature big brother who's been paying attention and saves the day.
You can print print as many colors as you want on the Ender too, but there are obviously limits. You just put a pause on the layer right before the letters raise up (in Donut for example) and then swap the filament and resume. There is usually a default macro "m600" that exists for this purpose and it will pause, move the head out of the way, etc.
@FREEJUMPER000
Жыл бұрын
if u have an directdrive feed, you can just cut the filament off at the right moment while printing and insert the new color, all without even the need to stop the print.
@drhodes4601
5 ай бұрын
Buy a multi color printer and quit fighting to make a print. Many of my prints have 4 colors on every layer. the change filament buy layer doesn't work in those situations.
This is NOT a collab I ever expected to happen, but I'm all for it !
@VAL3NTIN3
Жыл бұрын
You like ridge wallet
@ZigorMorgan
6 ай бұрын
Hi
"this thing print faster than other desktop FDM printer?" "OMG it's so much faster" me: *laughs in the Voron 2.4 r2*
You can make almost any print look factory finished off even the cheapest machines with enuff post print finishing and painting..they really help to bring ideas to life or create low volume production...
I used a 3D scanner app and my ender 3 to create and print new trim clips for my el camino. Honestly has saved me so much money. Also printed my license plate holder in 2 pieces and fused it together. Cost me about $10 in fullerene compared to $90 on eBay
@caddyguy5369
Жыл бұрын
Which app?
@jakewilliams6128
Жыл бұрын
^
@Maderasdesign
Жыл бұрын
@@caddyguy5369 heges is a good one to use with an iphone front facing camera since it has Lidar. That's what i use to scan my car, it has a learning curve though.
@caddyguy5369
Жыл бұрын
@@Maderasdesign I've been eyeing up consumer 3d scanners for a while. Maybe I should get a used iPhone.
@Maderasdesign
Жыл бұрын
@@caddyguy5369 for sure! Im about to make a handle that lets me point the phone at my object and a mirror underneath to see what im scanning lol. Its hard to use the front facing camera for scanning sometimes
I've been using an Ender 3 v2 for a few years now and works great for printing interior car accessories. A couple of mods like a glass print bed and automatic bed leveler really reduce the amount of failed prints! Using software like Ultimaker Cura can help with adding the detail to prints (while increasing print time) along with just a little bit of sanding goes a long way as well!
@NLamki2002
Жыл бұрын
What automatic bed leveler do you use?
@taylon5200
Жыл бұрын
That sounds like a spell in final fantasy lmao. Especially since Ultima, and cura ARE spells in FF 😂😂 I love it!
@BenDunlop
Жыл бұрын
@@NLamki2002 also interested in knowing this
@mekg5430
Жыл бұрын
@@NLamki2002 I am unable to attach Amazon links so here are the names of the bed leveler and the board upgrade I used. You may need to flash a new firmware to read the bed leveler: Dawnblade Creality CR-Touch Auto Bed Leveling Sensor Kit, for Ender-3 / Ender-5 / CR-10 Series, Official 3D Printer Upgrade Kit Creality V4.2.7 Upgrade Mute Silent Mainboard for Ender 3 Customized Silent Board, Ender 3 Silent Mother Board
@NLamki2002
Жыл бұрын
@@mekg5430 is the board upgrade required?
PLEASE LOWER THE MUSIC VOLUME OR MAKE YOUR VOICES LOUDER. I’m constantly adjusting the volume to be able to watch this video.
The windows noise at 2:44 made me laugh out loud idk why
2:37 a correction, it's PET (or PETG as in polyethylene glycol), not "PT". Also, you don't print carbon fiber, you print carbon fiber additive materials, where there are carbon fibers added to the polymer material for reinforcement, as mentioned in 15:30
@Josh-jw3go
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service, Private Pedantry
@albertastrofimovas
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Gotta check your hearing as he clearly says P-E-T.
@Tuhopolttaja
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@@albertastrofimovas He says, but the annotation is incorrect
@subarududewrxt
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Polyethylene terephthalate glycol
@h8GW
Жыл бұрын
@@sylaswojciechowski6895 I feel like this was more "reporting" than making an instructional video, so it gets a pass for small errors. As you know, journalism might cover a wide variety of topics that a journalist might not be familiar about, so keep that in mind when some extremist "independent news source" presents mistakes by "the other size" to "prove" they're untrustworthy.
I've been waiting to see what Bob did with you while he was there. Very cool demo. I've got an Ender 3 v2 myself. In spite of the caveats you talked about here, which are completely legitimate, the Ender is one of the better OOTB experiences compared to others in its price class. It's a decent gateway to casual hobbiests. Now I just need to figure out what I can print with it for my car.
As someone who prints in resin I physically recoiled when you smelled the uncured print 16:09 🤣 won't catch me near it without my respirator
When your "expert" isn't an expert
this was a great episode! ive been looking into getting tinot 3d prininting and this was definitely very imfortamtive! it was nice to hear from the experts and the future of 3d printing!
I love ILTMS, Bob is such a cool dude 😎 awesome to see these two YT channels get together.
I got a 3d printer and I use PLA+ for engine Bay stuff in my Corrado. The Corrado doesn't have a good aftermarket shift linkage. So we designed one in pla+ because the plastic acts as a bushing and is easy to replace
I just received a Creality Ender 3 V3 KE and I have to say I'm quite impressed with the couple of builds I've printed. From unboxing to my first print took maybe 1 hour. The unit is built impressively solid. Nothing feels, looks or even sounds cheap so far). The calibration was 100% automated which is the way it should be. I printed the requisite Tugboat and also a Lithophane night light. I was very impressed with how smooth the print came out and also how strong (relatively speaking) the print is. I'll move on to more functional projects which require some strength and durability this winter. At the very least, having a 3D printer and learning how to design and print is just another valuable tool in my technology arsenal. A couple of observations: The cost differential while my prints are "smooth" and certainly good enough for personal use, it would be a stretch to say the output is "production" quality so newcomers should not expect injection molding quality ;) BTW your (video) editor should get props for correctly engineering the sound. It's one of the first YT videos with enough volume that your not straining to hear.
Dual extreuder doesn't justify 7k price. 'Tho iut's Ultimaker, Apple of 3d-printers so, yeah. You can DIY enclusoure and camera etc around eg. MK3 + MMU with fraction of that price.
@TheSanpletext
Жыл бұрын
Also comparing rectilinear and monotonic top infill doesn't correlate with price at al.
Nice to see 3dp in donut vids. Try out the older ender3/ender3 v2, they are about $100 less. they may require a bit more troubleshooting, but are still capable. I've had an 1st gen ender3 for a few years and it gets the job done. Also there is a large community around modifying the ender3 to make it more capable.
If you want print quality, everyone knows resin is the way to go. Nozzle size and calibration are key for quality on FDM printers. A large scale 3d printer is exactly that, for printing large scale objects.
Two of my favorite channels collide! I love KZread Collaborations!
@text7775
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☝️☝️ Thanks for Commenting message me.Congratulation you have been selected among the winning team
Damnit I really thought my old man wallet would survive a flamethrower. Never know when I’m going to spontaneously burst into flames.
@charlesrozell848
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Yes, if only your cash was on the outside of a fire resistant sleeve it would be okay.
@kentuckygardensnake4248
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Hopefully it doesn’t happen in our pockets
Am I really the only one who misses the old Donut shows?
@CamAteUrKFC
Жыл бұрын
No I do too. It feels lazy lately.
@BPBomber
Жыл бұрын
@@CamAteUrKFC Thanks man. I don’t DISlike the new stuff they’re making, I just really miss the old stuff like B2B, H/L, Wheelhouse, Up to Speed, Money Pit, etc. I wish they would at least let us know if it’s in the plans to bring them back.
Great video. Surprised they didn't focus more on SLS with metals. Maybe too expensive/uncommon.
The finish on the one fan plug was because of the hole in the center, the 7k one would do the same thing but when setting up on either you could adjust the settings to make it go back over and iron it smoother
Sick! If anybody is interested, remember that for anything automotive you need a temperature resistant material (ABS, ASA, etc). PLA will soften immediately if you leave your car in the sun for a minute or two! Look in the forums, groups or KZread channels if the printer you're looking to buy can handle them! I would have loved to see a printer in the middle of those two, like a Prusa as they're about 700-900 with shipping depending on the country you're in.
Two of my favorite channels together! Awesome!
I have a set of 1.5" spacers on top of my struts that outlasted one set of struts and show no signs of falling anytime soon printed of a very old school genesis printer back in 2014 in PETG. Now these days I can print just about any material out there on a heavily modified ender 5 plus and total cost of the printer is still under $2k . Most notable is a supercharger mount made out of pa12+cf that would be normally reserved for a milling machine. 3D printing is so awesome, and you are only limited by your imagination. Haven't tried it but there's no reason I can't print the peek like he mentioned, I know for sure I can get the chamber temp high enough and my hotend can easily handle 410 degrees.
For those looking into getting into 3d printing the ender 3 is a solid option, not the best or latest tech printer bit it as it's getting a little dated but certainly capable of great quality printing and has one if not the most documented knowledge base and customization aftermarket options of any hobby printer available. Plus it's super easy to modify it to be able to print high end materials like ABS and Carbon fiber nylon with a simple hot end / nozzle upgrade and an enclosure. Been using that exact combo for a couple years now making my own cosmetic and mechanical auto parts like velocity stacks for instance. Honestly can't think of another printer that could so easily and cheaply be converted to printing these material besides the creatily Ender3 and bigger brother CR10. Anything else is usually a big jump in price.
2 minutes in and craziest crossover ever, love both your channels and so happy you guys collaborated on this!!
this is one collaboration I never thought I would see!! that's awesome!
I dunno why a squeak toy sounded when Nolan adjusted his glasses but it's one of the reasons i love this channel lol
I 3d printed a snorkel for my ST lol. Theres a couple things you can do. Snorkels, washer fluid caps, phone holders, center console organizers, pedal spacers, etc
Zack Jobe standing on a cube that can support his weight : “ this is the future “
Nolan's "system error" soundbite edit was as on point as the reloading sound when he fixes his scopes. Lmao
$185000 printer underextruding is crazy
Hey, 3D printing SME here (8yrs exp). The main difference b/t cheap printers and more expensive printers is 1. The build volume, and 2. The build chamber temperature regulation. To print the PEEK, Ultem1010, CF Nylon, materials you have to have a build chamber that can reach 150 degrees C. For FDM machines the deposition rate is similar throughout all price points. If you all ever want a metal 3D printing SME hit me up
The Creality Ender 3D printers are genuinely excellent for the price. If you’re on the fence, go ahead and pick one up. Very fun and practical. I’ve done 100s of prints with mine and she’s still going strong. I’m using the 3 year old model as well so the newer one is significantly better than mine.
@sirseriously
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I've got an older model (Cr-10) that has been going strong since 2017. Great platform.
For the ender 3 you'll need to adjust the infill and turn on ironing but other than that you can def make those look identical.
@vibinz6693
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I think one of the reasons they looked so different is because of the hole on the ender 3's part, that would make the nozzle have to go different ways to print that, which would make it have that rough texture
@shplayshiggty7537
Жыл бұрын
@@vibinz6693 so I have an ender 3 and the ironing option I talk about smooths it all out. It's not just the printer it's also the slicer they're using.
Really dig the synth wave y’all have been playing in the background.
Thanks for the great video! Super stoked! I just poured some plastic glitter into my Epson inkjet printer, gonna make some double rainbows!
Dude I love this colab. I had to double take when they introduced Bob. Some of my favorite Chanel’s!
I remember when my school got a 3D printer for the first time 8 years ago and I took a whole day to get a cube you could fit in your hand printed out. But it was dope asf cus it just made something tangible and interactive
He said the same things when I was presenting S5 for my manager. I decided to take one of them because ease-of-use and the ability to teach how to use for people between ages of 18-60.
Nolan's face when he mentioned carbon fiber capability 😂😂 the best
IMO Donuts infomercials are worthy of their own play list
Would have been cool to see some current gen metal 3d printing. I had a custom bracket made for my engine bay in steel. Designed myself in 3d software, sent the file through a company online's upload system, paid $50 and had the part in my mailbox in 2 weeks.
@SSmallwood
Жыл бұрын
wow! what site did u use? sounds awesome for custom fab stuff i dont have the tools for
@BedroomMachinist
Жыл бұрын
Check out titans of cnc they have amazing metal prints
@stefancgxz7799
Жыл бұрын
That’s cool, what is the bracket used for and how does the quality hold up? This would be a good thing to replace certain parts you can’t find anywhere.
Damn I’ve watched “I Like to Make Stuff” longer than I have Donut, cool af to see Bob!
thanks for the help it help my every thing i need to install
I was so surprised to see Bob here, been folowing his work for a realy long time now
It would be pretty cool if you guys tossed the file for that plug on Thingiverse so people can print their own =)
16:56 That awkward moment when you are standing next to a KZreadr while they are recording their intro/outro...
Omg how did these 2 channels end up in a video together? I love it!!
The sPro60 is "good" for 15x13x18 but the outside inch or so has some weird thermals going on that causes warping, so if that matters to you the effective build area is only around 11x13x18. Unless 3D Systems fixed that in the later revisions, i have no idea.
Very cool to see them make a video about this but there is a lot of missing info about it for sure. Also there is no "Just print it" there needs to be a working and printable design. People do upload some files for free but most of the time your going to be making the parts yourself seeing that there are no files for them. Cheaper 3D scanners will help a lot but they are not easy to use for the most part so you will need to learn how to use them. My channel is gearing up to be all about how to do this. I will be showing how to make parts from scratch using different methods like 3D printing, 3D scanning, laser cutting / engraving and metal casting. 😁👍
@maryckbuilds
Жыл бұрын
I just took a peek at your channel and your videos are great. Keep it up! Truth be told I started this channel with a similar intent as I've long believed the 'mechanical' side of making could use the same kind of love software & electronics get. I find that the problem many newcomers have with kits & programs is that they teach the absolute basics then there's barely any good forms of progression/tool or design knowledge etc. and if they want to continue things quickly get out of scope. Unfortunately, I've been busy with school, but your channel has encouraged me to at least bump it as a priority.
I have 7 3d printers and am working on getting parts to build my 8th a voron 2.4r2. The ender 3v2 can print faster with the proper setup in the slicer. I have managed a 13min benchy on one of my modded ender 3 pro. Also have a dual nozzle dual extruder ender 3 pro that I modded. Pretty cool introduction into the dual filament world. My cheapest is an Ender 2 pro and it does really good quality prints with PLA and PETG they can be had for $100-$150 and are fantastic if you don't need a massive print surface. You can print engine bay parts with the right filament. Such as ABS,Nylon,polycarbonate.
Hmm. My. Cr10v2 with bl and Direct Drive has never given me trouble and prints amazing with perfect dimension. Can't imagine spending over 1k on a printer after owning this one
Completely unexpected crossover! ❤️
@emmanuelponce6380
Жыл бұрын
Pogo Shoes !!!!
These KZread collabs have been killing me. Bob at donut?? Heck yeah
@Iliketomakestuff
Жыл бұрын
😀
Love that donut are using the same royalty free music as hoonigan hahaha
Yoooo! Big props for the ratfink shirt, I was so shocked to see that. Ed roth is my all time favorite artist 👌
Dear Nolan, I NEED more Chrysler Imperial content. I'd actually love seeing more of donut employee personal projects as well.
Also with the ender for relatively cheap upgrade you are able to print carbon fibre/ nylon which would be able to withstand the heat of and engine bay so that could be something to test in the future
@thefoodcan
Жыл бұрын
You can print abs with out upgrades, you really just need to build a box around it to keep the heat in it.
I'd really like to see some information about where to go to get/make 3D models of specific car parts. It's one thing to just say you can print it but aquiring a model for a specific interior piece can be difficult unless youre lucky and someone has posted exactly what you need in some corner of the internet.
As a 3D printing enthusiast the amount of subtle accidentally misinformation is hilarious!🤣 Great video!