We Test: $1 vs $300 Zip Ties
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Is cheaping out worth it? Today we test a bunch of cheap vs expensive tools around the shop to find out. Zip ties, drill bits, air hammers, and even shop vacuums: we put them all to the test.
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@j...bro.
Жыл бұрын
They are keeping him safe and sound in my basement though.
@brother8127
Жыл бұрын
I click and scan but I don't get anything
@andredeketeleastutecomplex
Жыл бұрын
To hell with Raid bullshit. What's next, Candy Crush, Farmville. I'm unsubbing, you already have plenty of cash, you don't need Raid.
@lukeyrjb1986
Жыл бұрын
I think it wasn't a fair comparison. You used more zip cheap zip ties because they may be weaker but I think all you did was help them not stretch while you where jacking it up. If you use 15 of the other more expensive type you would have the same result.
@notcamer0n
Жыл бұрын
@@andredeketeleastutecomplex I mean they have to pay a bunch of hosts, editors, and writers. That plus buying tools, cars, parts and renting their location. Plus a ton of other random capital expenses. Running a business requires shit tons of money that’s constantly being spent so I don’t know how you could ever have “plenty of cash” when running one so long as everything’s above board and moral. Especially if it gets reinvested into shows like HiLow. Could just ignore the sponsor ads too. I skip them all the time
Nylon zip-ties can hold an engine up but they couldn’t keep Pumphrey’s Dad from leaving.
@historyfan0651
Жыл бұрын
To get milk
@Dezroy
Жыл бұрын
☹️
@muhzidon1151
Жыл бұрын
oofff ouch that hurts 😂
@stewpacalypse7104
Жыл бұрын
Too soon?
@RezboaDog
Жыл бұрын
CRITICAL DAMAGE
I deal with this on airplanes all the time. I’ve installed 1 zip tie that was worth $75. But it was a half inch, 12 inch long one. The reason for the cost is because of its chemical and heat resistance, also the certification.
@forget2bhuman993
Жыл бұрын
they didnt even test a single chemical on the ties, would have been really interesting.
@geemy9675
Жыл бұрын
hope it's reusable at least
@Earley405
Жыл бұрын
@@geemy9675 Do you really want to be flying with an airline that reuses zip ties? lol.
@zachthomas5272
Жыл бұрын
Hello, fellow A&P.
@dr.science_0177
Жыл бұрын
Yea everything in aviation has to be top tier or things go wrong
The biggest difference I've noticed in cheap vs expensive tools is how long you can use them (reliability, longevity) I do find that as a occasional use DIYer the middle of the road option often works out the best. As a student, breaking some cheap tools is a wonderful teacher.
@doom4067
Жыл бұрын
One school of thought is to buy the cheap tool. If you break it, you use it enough to warrant the expensive one.
@slinkeyj3
Жыл бұрын
Yuuup. If you're using said tools as your every-day livelihood, then it's worth it to spend more for the better durability. But for most hobbyists, the middle-ground tools will last perfectly fine
@PostTraumaticChessDisorder
Жыл бұрын
Also QoL makes a huge difference
@user-cb4es6lo3x
Жыл бұрын
Watch project farm tests he does it better this guys are for entertainment. :)
@Phelixc
Жыл бұрын
This is how I go about things. If I use the tools often, then I am going for the more expensive option. If it's occasional, I will buy cheap and just replace it when it fails.
The drill test I would argue is a user error issue in the first test, using a hand drill and timing the drilling including the transition time between holes puts too much weight on the hand of the guy doing the drilling, the second test is a bit more fair but you could still take notes from the Project Farm channel on how to do a more fair comparison.
@morsumbra9692
Жыл бұрын
Project farm is science hardcore in real life, swear the dude has to have a degree in STEM.
@Trichromasie
Жыл бұрын
The second drill test would probably have worked with the cheap drill if the two had used a significantly lower speed and coolant/lubricant
@phizc
Жыл бұрын
They don't exclude variables. I much prefer PFs approach. With the second drill bit test they should have used a weight to make the force equal for both bits. They did the worst thing possible by hand cranking it with two different operators. One could have used 3 times as much force and nobody would know, not even the other guy standing right there. If one of them had done both tests, at least he could have estimated it within 10% or so.
@EpyonRules
4 ай бұрын
Also, comparing titanium to cobalt drill bits is not really a fair comparison at all.
I'm a carpenter and we do a lot of sanding and refinish work. Don't let the cheap shop vacs fool you. It's less about getting more sucking power for the size and more about their reliability. The motors on the cheap shop vacs burn out quicker through regular use. The more expensive shop vacs are worth the money in terms of reliability. Another point about vacuuming power are the fluid dynamics like water. While a smaller hose/end might have that quick sucking power, a larger motor and wider hose/opening can move more air over distance so if you don't want to move the entire shop vac around with you all day and just move a long hose, the cheap shop vac doesn't have the power to move air over distance.
@Steve-bc2cl
Жыл бұрын
ok nerd
@jpncaredits5178
Жыл бұрын
Basically if it's too cheap to be true it aint gonna be true and this goes to everything.
@reileymaiers9270
Жыл бұрын
@@Steve-bc2cl bros just tryna help lol
@AleksandrRudiak
Жыл бұрын
I'm working on hotline of karcher and can approve this. Usually they not just devided by price but also by purpose of use. On Karcher example they have "home&garden" line and "professional" one. And they have really simillar tools and equipment in both categories in terms of power but they are really different in terms of reliability. So we pretty often get calls from organisations who thought that's gonna be a good idea to use h&g tools on daily basis with a lot of work to do wondering why they don't have any guarantee
@gpweaver
Жыл бұрын
@@Steve-bc2cl He's right, though. Shop Vac actually puts bearings in their motors, as opposed to cheap delrin bushings that wear over time. So they last a lot longer. Admittedly, I'm biased--Shop Vac actually chose to *not* outsource production to China; they're still made in Williamsport, PA. But they *were* sold to a Chinese tool company, which kind of sucks.
This is entertaining and all, but I miss Nolan's deep dives and analytical break downs into automotive issues. Bring that back!
@odenshay9972
Жыл бұрын
He’s pretty great at explaining 😂
@hellodisdat
Жыл бұрын
actually dont bring that back please
@bonespur2728
Жыл бұрын
Yeah this is just worse project farm
@ClayRepairs
Жыл бұрын
@@bonespur2728 Right! Its like they half-ass every test and get no real results
@slipknotserge
Жыл бұрын
@@bonespur2728 🤣🤣🤣facts
Last year I had to pull a trans without my normal tools. The trans was coming out of a shell and the engine had already been removed. They stated it wasn't safe to transport as it sat. I pulled the trans out with a cherry picker, zip ties, and 1 ratchet strap. I was impressed because the zipties were holding all of the weight and they didn't even hesitate at all.
@chuni5942
Жыл бұрын
Im not that fat :(
@Jesus_Christ_is_Lord_
Жыл бұрын
It's a tranny btw we aren't talking about the mentally ill club here.
@Enderito
10 ай бұрын
?@@chuni5942
@alalalala57
10 ай бұрын
@@chuni5942 I did a spit take lmaooo.
@AndrewMcGill0
7 ай бұрын
@@chuni5942same I’m not fat either
As the owner of a carpet cleaning company I can tell you that the quality of the parts is what sets vacuum cleaners apart, not the flow rate, which is what you measured. If you bought the right vacuum cleaner, it will remain at optimal sucking power for longer at a time and also it will have a much longer total lifetime.
@mikewhitman745
Жыл бұрын
Yup, we would burn out a shop vac in less than a year, the fein vacuum has been going for years on end and is substantially quieter.
@yamatokawa
Жыл бұрын
What brand would you recomend for optimal durability?
@ministrychannelsa4216
Жыл бұрын
@@yamatokawa Dyson vacuum vacuum cleaners.
@yamatokawa
Жыл бұрын
@@ministrychannelsa4216 thank you. Will keep it in mind
I love donut. Love the crew. These videos are even entertaining and great at killing time. But when are the cars coming back? Up 2 speed, bumper 2 bumper? I miss seeing cars. Learning about their history and their engineering. Hoping to get some more automotive stuff in the future boys
@benjaminwhitmer6019
Жыл бұрын
True, but sadly there's a lot of comments saying they love the more simple content so im not sure if we'll get the old content back
@crionidel
Жыл бұрын
I believe the good content is coming back, considering their market this is it's summer season, people are on holiday so u wanna keep the good stuff for the winter. At least I hope so, their analytics (views alone in this case) seems to still be higher for car stuff more than Shop stuff.
@logicreversed18t
Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. This isn't why I subscribed to the channel. It's starting to feel like they are appealing to a younger, TikTok-attention-span audience. Even the hi-lo series was a rushed let down. Bring back the grind. Bring back the suffering!
@kepler656
Жыл бұрын
@@logicreversed18t ah yes, the tired "tik tok generation attentiom span" argument. Bro we grew up with icanhascheezeburger, 9gag, KZread Poop, Newgrounds and friendster. If anything the older I get, the worse my attention span is getting.
@sagemaster6814
Жыл бұрын
Love the do nut! I miss the the car love. I also love the the tool stuff. You are tools now, better with car stuff tho. Not complaining, just un-interested....just because 20 years back I could grow a beard better than Jeremiah's I don't think I'm better (I grew a beard long enough to turn white, chump). Broseffs, bring back the car stuffs! Overlanding and sports cars are what I signed up for. Show more Camaro (sick 35 anniversary z28ss!, mine had 486hp, 485tq), or 4 runner, a Lexus imposter of a Runner ok, show the a build. A miata, gosh dang I'm in! A super 7 or Arial Atom or lotus Elise (I named my daughter Elise RIP) and my wife is getting divorce papers and you a proposal if you get your hands on a street legal super 7.
a solid reminder that cost isn't always to do with quality but can be due to how niche a product is. The $3 zipties are for pretty specific use cases so they cost what they cost because they aren't intended for the mass market.
@veevoir
Жыл бұрын
Not only niche, but also certifications. A lot of stuff used in aviation is like that, where most of the price - is paperwork/certificates because safety etc.
@TheSuperBoyProject
Жыл бұрын
300$
@jaredgarcia3335
Жыл бұрын
That’s not how prices work. If the process to make a product is cheap and the materials are abundant there is no reason for a high price. No matter how niche the market is. At least not one that’s worth a 30,000% markup (assuming cost of production is similar to the regular zip ties). The only place where how niche a market is determines the price is with collectibles. Like how a normal person wouldn’t pay $100,000 for a 50 year old car but a collector would. But scarcity also plays apart in that example as well.
@garrettzkool63
Жыл бұрын
@@jaredgarcia3335 supply and demand is a bit different when they have to be certified. that means the certification is part of the time it takes to produce. think body armor, i can buy kevlar from china for $100 non-certified but i can get the same kevlar from america that has passed NIJ certification and it will cost much more. thats how the market works with more specialty items.
@Gl-my8fw
Жыл бұрын
@@jaredgarcia3335 ... yes it is how things work.... If I am the only one with a specific product on the market than I will have a huge profit margin and nothing is wrong with that
I don’t know anything about cars but I can’t stop watching donut media videos. Best entertaining thing on KZread. And whoever does your graphics/animations, who are you?! Your team is amazing ❤
@Catladybug
Жыл бұрын
Same
Just started at my new job and I learned another reason that the blue zip ties are special. Apparently the material that they are made of is also vacuum compatible which is important for use in things like space craft
@slinkeyj3
Жыл бұрын
Yuuuup. We use blue ties (which are usually tefzel) in TVAC testing, and only buy red for non-TVAC compatible ties, so that people can quickly see they aren't TVAC compatible
@herrbrahms
10 ай бұрын
I wonder why Tefzel would do any better in vacuum than nylon. Could it be that the Tefzel does a better job resisting UV embrittlement?
@tookitogo
3 ай бұрын
@@herrbrahmsDifferent materials outgas differently at different levels of vacuum. Things that you’d never think of as volatile or absorbent start to leach out stuff at high vacuum or ultra high vacuum. For example, stainless steel - to outgas the moisture its surface absorbs, you have to heat it to 200C. Or solder - the lead in traditional solder outgasses in ultra high vacuum. In high and ultra high vacuum, the number of plastics that are usable dwindles down to a handful, the most important being Teflon (the preferred one due to cost and ease of use), Kapton, and PEEK. (Tefzel, Vespel, and Torlon are others.) Then if you add ionizing radiation to the mix, Teflon gets disqualified because it degrades quickly. Nylon is extremely bad in terms of outgassing, both itself and absorbed moisture. So is acrylic. I used to work at a university physics department (now I’m at the chemistry department) and materials compatibility was a huge part of component selection. I got lots and lots of experience working with Teflon and Kapton cables, for an experiment that involves first drawing a high vacuum to eliminate air, so that the air doesn’t contaminate the second step, which is to fill the vessel with millions of $ worth of liquid xenon. So first a high vacuum, then cryogenic temperatures. Most materials can’t handle one of those conditions, never mind both.
The Harbor Freight zip ties don't last through an Ohio winter in a garage. They get brittle and break much easier after freezing.
@desmondh7844
Жыл бұрын
they are a dollar... buy a brand new pack every year and youll never reach lifetime cost of the blue ones.
@Clay3613
Жыл бұрын
I bet neither do other comparable brands.
@sometwo2117
Жыл бұрын
Nothing makes it out of an ohio winter working like it did before lol
@TFGgarage
Жыл бұрын
@@sometwo2117 rest in piece any car made of steel ever
@kameronh9100
Жыл бұрын
Odd. They last outside in much colder ND winters. I use them to hang Christmas lights on my trees.
I used to test T&B Ty-Rap zip ties as a job. I can tell you from experience, the commercial-grade zip ties will withstand the elements much, much better than generic zip-ties. I'm talking direct UV exposure, high temperatures, low temperatures, heat cycling, etc. Usually the generic/cheap stuff's tensile rating is for right out of the bag, but that goes to dogshit once exposed to the elements for any amount of time (as indicated by the heat gun test). Often the commercial-grade stuff can still maintain 80% or more of its tensile strength after factoring in time/humidity/temperature. The cheap stuff can be reduced to just 10% of its stated tensile strength. tl;dr : if you need a temporary fix, get cheap zip-ties. If you need a permanent or semi-permanent (say, securing wiring under the hood), get the expensive stuff from a reputable company.
@nottodayfedboi3536
Жыл бұрын
Me and my harbor freight zip tied together engine bay thank you
@niclaskarlin
Жыл бұрын
Or buy a good hose clamp.
@himesjon
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@showmethedammovie
Жыл бұрын
What is a reputable zip tie company?
@youngmug
Жыл бұрын
@@showmethedammovie Panduit, which is where they got the Tefzel ties on this video, also sells lower cost ties. They're a pretty reliable company for those products, and there's likely a distributor nearby you can buy through. If you're just handling DIY stuff, the branded ties at a hardware store should do 90% of what you need.
I know I’m late but I thought abt it. The 300 dollar ties might be better for outdoor applications in the long run.
@arunas2627
Жыл бұрын
Would u seriously spend that much on zipties? 💀
@st_ar457
Жыл бұрын
@@arunas2627 depends on what my outdoor application is. For extreme long term (3 months to who knows) outdoors, yes. For a week or less, absolutely not.
@arunas2627
Жыл бұрын
@@st_ar457 💀
“ the weal weason “ 😂😂 3:11
Titanium nitride coated and cobalt steel drills bits have different purpose and characteristics. TiN is great for lower hardness steel and softer metals, and it's more flexible. Cobalt HSS is great for harder steels - nickel-chrome, stainless, etc. , however they are very fragile - just try to open up a hole with rough edges, and it snaps immediately.
@SaiRyan1
Жыл бұрын
No one should be buying anything based on these tests. They just aren't good or even comparing apples to apples as you said
@Yz4Life
Жыл бұрын
@@SaiRyan1 yea definitely more of a entertainment oriented video, still enjoyed them making a joke out of those $100 zip ties lol
@juzoli
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that’s why they have different price. There are no cheap cobalt bits.
@AlexanderBurgers
Жыл бұрын
TiN bits also get sticky in aluminium, so any of the other options is a better idea.
@skilledtradesscotty4896
Жыл бұрын
@@SaiRyan1 so are you saying these tests are a waste of time but bring a lot of traffic that pays? Hard to turn down more money for less content.
loved when he said "yeah it's zippin' time" they are really one of the youtube channels of all time
@johntheidiotfarmer6410
Жыл бұрын
T R U E
@El-Burrito
Жыл бұрын
They are certainly a KZread channel
@abliviustrey
Жыл бұрын
you speedran this comment so fast that it makes no sense
@pushpacharles7473
Жыл бұрын
it is one of the
@an2thea514
Жыл бұрын
You can also just shut up for once.
Panduit cable ties are god-tier. Totally worth the $$$. Edit: Clayton shop vacuums are world-class, Clayton's entire business is build around dust and chemical fume removal, the Air Force uses Clayton vacuums for maintenance on their jets.
@stephen7690
9 ай бұрын
what applications are you needing $300 zip ties for? I'd rather replace them with cheap ones every few months than shell out $3 a ziptie
@rhubarbpie2027
9 ай бұрын
@@stephen7690 an F-15.
13:05 I do believe KZread has no duration limit on your videos, so good luck with the excuse to charge us more money 😂😂
Fun fact Tefzel zip ties are also used in the space industry due to their ability to resist cryogenic and very hot temperature fluctuations. I use them all the time at work.
@FreeTrapMoney
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you have an epic career
@tylerdurden7869
Жыл бұрын
*works at McDonald's*
@zfgnerdlife
Жыл бұрын
What do you do exactly? Sounds fun.
@geoffwatches
Жыл бұрын
@@zfgnerdlife he's a zip tie tester
@Clay3613
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but seems to kinda suck at doing it's job unless you work in extreme temperatures.
Thanks for representing Harbor Freight Tools guys! I am a Store Manager there and I use your videos a lot to promote the quality and benefit of our products!
@Soundsystem504
Жыл бұрын
Let corporate know to sponsor a Donut video!
@1creep2e3r
Жыл бұрын
Ever since I learned about harbor freight sharing suppliers with the big guys I shop there a lot more
@adamhayden5152
Жыл бұрын
@@S6R15 it’s KZread stupid. You don’t have to pay anyone to use KZread videos. You must be brain dead…
@nicholasgunsmoke2285
Жыл бұрын
I work there too as a sales associate and I’m surprised how good our tools are to be honest. It’s also nice because I get a pretty nice discount on everything.
@axle1717
Жыл бұрын
Harbor freight is the bees knees for alot of stuff. Plus they got an awesome warranty. It's a pain to go thru warranty for snap on or matco
James is my favorite Donut personality but these guys are gold and have great chemistry
Love this. Actually was surprised seeing Cheap stuffs hold up sometimes better for their price
At 6:35 u guys should have said: "Hey, this is a little longer" "That's what she said"
The 2 air hammers were not of the same category. They might have had the same hammer size but the Harbor Freight one had a shorter throw. That is why it was shorter and you could hear the difference when they ran.
@KingHarry
Жыл бұрын
Yep, I was wondering if I'm the only one who noticed that!
@saeiamiller6637
Жыл бұрын
it's because all they do is shill for harbor frieght now. The zipties are not the same ether. They are made for a certain application. These videos are trash now.
@coreyl3642
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, Jobe was using a 2x by the looks of the length. Jeremiah maybe a 4x?
@akidim13
Жыл бұрын
Shhh , it’s donut media , they never do anything right
@rempaulocainag8997
Жыл бұрын
the harbor freight is a 4x hammer gun and the other one is 1x hammer gun. shorter = faster throw but less impact, compare to 4x longer = slower throw but more impact
Idk who my favorite duo on YT is; Jobe and Jeremiah or Cletus and James.
Watching Jerry try an knock that bolt out brought a smile to my face. He was so sure it wasn't working only for it to be no problem. He reminds me of myself and how you just need to try again a different way. You go Jerr, keep at it fam.
As a machinist those drill bits might not be for drilling that type and thin metal. If they had holes in them like he said it’s for through coolant.
@abrownduck3
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget about speeds & feeds. A fast bit dulls a slow bit breaks
@lennychorn147
Жыл бұрын
You are missing the point of the tests. Which was to see which lasted longer, under torture conditions.
@Shocker99
Жыл бұрын
As an engineer. This speed run tool comparison video hurts to watch. What's right about it?
@Justtrying420
Жыл бұрын
It's real life comparison Mr engineer
@BRENDANTHERED
Жыл бұрын
@@Shocker99 Considering you're an engineer, why don't YOU tell us what's WRONG with it?
The secondary cut in the drill is for drilling blind holes. The smaller radius at the center of a drill travels less distance in a rotation, so it requires a different angle of attack to effectively cut material. Without this the drill just kinda pushes the material to the side until the drill gets deep enough cut, hence why large straight tip drills are so hard to use without a pilot hole. Love the video guys!
@HavokTheorem
Жыл бұрын
You're broadly correct but the mechanism at work is not to do with the angle of the cutting edge - it's the fact that the cutting edge entirely ceases at the web in the centre of the drill. The cutting edges cannot make contact with the material being drilled until the web has sunk into the material, which for something like steel can be quite difficult - it's displacing the material, not cutting it. By split-point grinding, the cutting edge is extended all the way to the centre of the drill web.
The scientific approach to the ridiculously unscientific tests will always keep me watching 🤣🤣🤣
Nothing will ever beat a Henry hoover as a shop vac 😂
i remember expensive blue zipties from working in a bread factory, they are mandatory to use there because they get found by detectors checking for metal parts in the bread, regular nylon ones would go undetected.
I love how unscientific these are. The complete and total lack of variables, control and designed use case is hilariously stupid 🤣
@markwhoeverdafuck4114
Жыл бұрын
this
@DaveWraptastic
Жыл бұрын
I mean it didn't even look like those fish tanks had equal amounts of water in it, while measuring 5 gallons is the easiest shit to do 😆
@CapnFlappyJaw42
Жыл бұрын
obviously these videos aren't supposed to be for professional shops. these videos are there to show average joes who like to work on their own car, that they don't need professional grade products just to do garage work.
@louisgonzalez9489
Жыл бұрын
Project farm is much better
@jonsauce
Жыл бұрын
Yup with no data being recorded and analyzed these tests are useless haha
Please bring back the good ol days where we had Wheelhouse on mondays, B2B on tuesdays, moneypit on wednesdays, up to speed on thrustdays and the Dlist on fridays. Please, I'm pretty sure most of us miss those glory days. I still watch ol videos and end up sad afterwards cuz I just keep rewatching them all. 😭😭😭😭
"3:11 for 3 lines" man that brought back some good times 😂 i tell you i do miss partying like i used to but it really isnt worth it and people that dont live like i have are honestly awesome as fuck
My dad was an aircraft mechanic back in the day, so in place of zip ties we always used the titanium cable they wrap engine bolts in to prevent them from vibrating loose. Probably the most expensive "zip ties" anyone could use
@poshun9407
Жыл бұрын
Probably still cheaper than 3$ a go. Stainless steel lock wire is cheap enough and I think would outlast pretty much any zip tie.
@alexriofrio5754
Жыл бұрын
Called lacing wire
@poshun9407
Жыл бұрын
@@alexriofrio5754 Today I learned about 'cable lacing' 👍🏼 is it ever done with metal wire? My only experience with what I call 'lock wire' is steel wire. Useful in holding motocross grips on, also required on certain fasteners especially on race tracks.
@drewdavis239
Жыл бұрын
he said titanium
@alexriofrio5754
Жыл бұрын
@@poshun9407 I guess it would be called lock wire. I guess I use the term lacing wire for any thin wire that can be used for securing fasteners.
Did you let the heat gun cool before doing the second test?
@BenDunlop
Жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing. Also depends where the heat is directed (zip ties can deform from heat more on the 'strip' before failing compared to the locking clip area) Doesn't really matter though, $3 zip ties aren't for us
@RandysRides
Жыл бұрын
Well, since they had to re-rig everything for the second test, I'm gonna guess that yes...it cooled down. It would have taken them at least 5 minutes to set up the next one.
@STDavis-em1df
Жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking exactly. Doubt it
@8:54 love the hi/low car and hi/low truck bumpers on the wall! Maybe they've been there forever but I'm just now noticing them, nice touch
Off topic, but I just love watching donut's videos. They always have fun vibes with eachother!
I feel like Detailing Tools Like power washers, shampoo, and brushes would make a good episode for this series
@kelb0y9o20
Жыл бұрын
I think they have a video about washing ur vehicle
I'm a shop teacher and have that brand-name shop vac. It impressed me a fair bit how it hasn't worn out or been broken yet. And teenagers are not soft of equipment.
Great duo of hosts, lots of fun
the carabiner you guys are using is really great for climbing! that little red ring is an indicator to tell you its not closed/locked so you know to close it before trusting your life on it!
For anyone curious I have the Bauer 6hp 14 Gallon Shop Vac, the thing is a champ. I had 3 bags of old concrete in the back of my truck that fell apart & it vacuumed it up in less than 5 minutes including big 1-2 inch pieces that were solid like it was nothing. Only downside is the Hose is a bit stiff other than that highly recommended, it's backed by a 1 year warranty aswell.
I like how you guys post right when I wake up so I can watch them while I’m getting ready for work
".....the quality of your holes is not what I expected." Solid Country gold right there. :)
I love watching you guys in the morning before work and I talk about you to the guys in the weld shop and I got them watching your videos thankyou for showing that sometimes it's not about how much money it costs but the quality and you guys show it right here thanks and you all make it hilarious
@larrykeel2739
Жыл бұрын
This is Larry Keel from Indiana and I really love watching Donut 🍩 you guys are awesome and thanks
Since you started with just 10 of the expensive ones, each one would have spent work time under tension being fatigued and stretched more than the initial 15 of the cheap ones.
@jacobpeterson628
Жыл бұрын
That's a very solid point you make there. I usually pick apart flaws in videos such as these and completely overlooked that.
@Fiwek23452
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same
@mayaibuki
Жыл бұрын
yeah, I want a video by Project farm about this. That channel is more accurate and scientific.
@Steve-bc2cl
Жыл бұрын
I mean theyre obviously not scientists lmao just some whackos with a garage full of cool cars.
@darksoul7024
Жыл бұрын
cheap is still better
As an aircraft mechanic and hobby car mechanic, spend the money on the drill bits. It goes through the hood but anything thicker and the HF bits bend almost instantly
@TheSuburban15
Жыл бұрын
The cheap ones are most likely designed only for use on wood and plastic.
They didn't let the heat gun cool off, it started from cold for the expensive zipties and was already hot for the harbor freight
@nomicwave
Жыл бұрын
It wouldn't matter. Heat guns heat up rapidly and exponentially, so basically they would go from 0% (ambient temp) to around 85% (500c assuming it's rated 1500W) in a second or two and then to 95% in another second or so and the last 5% would take as long as 10 seconds. So whether it fully cools down or not, it will still get to 500c in as quick as 2 seconds with maybe a difference of no more than a few milliseconds.
@jakehiggins5118
Жыл бұрын
Heat guns heat up stupid fast so I highly doubt that made any difference
these 2 donut bros are favorite, love seeing them together.
I'm going to guess the more expensive vacuum probably has a HEPA filter and actually traps most dust particles. What point is there to the cheap vacuum if it just spreads the dust around the shop?
@TheChzoronzon
Жыл бұрын
suck a couple litres water first and you'll get 90% of the filter job done
@jeffrobbie472
Жыл бұрын
You can only pull one atmosphere of vacuum, so the "sucking" power of the units is always going to be similar. Along with the filter, I'm guessing that it's just built much better. Made to last. Made for a shop that uses it every day vs. a guy using it on weekends in his garage.
@Nwhis
Жыл бұрын
@@jeffrobbie472 Vacuums don't actually pull a vacuum (that's very difficult, even for purpose-built vacuum chambers and such), they just create airflow (like a basic fan, but with way more pressure). So you absolutely can have a way stronger vacuum, though it can start to depend on the size of the hose and other factors like that as well.
@TheOnespeedbiker
Жыл бұрын
All canister vacs come with filters. A HEPA filter is only necessary for people who are extremely sensitive to micro fine dust, otherwise they are not necessary, especially in an open work shop environment. In cases where a person has a sensitivity to dust, face masks work much better as they are disposable and in a dusty work shop environment a HEPA filter would clog up very quickly.
@TheChzoronzon
Жыл бұрын
@@TheOnespeedbiker There. A mechanical workshop doesn't have much dust, more like greasy layer of paste over everything, lol And a woodwork requires much more than that. Long ago, I worked in places with HEPA filters on the air intake and negative pressure in the room... but the objetive was to control the smell of the buds not going outside...ahem...
Love these videos coming out in the AM. Starts my day out on the right foot.
My grandfather used a swing set in 1970’s to hoist and swing an engine. The set bent and almost broke, but it worked and then he put it back in the nextdoor neighbor’s yard 😂
For $300 you can legitimately fix the issue you're temporarily fixing with $300 zip ties.
@pranays
11 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking.😂
13:49 “We’re going to hit each line individually” 😂
knowing the source of the scream @ 10:51 absolutely killed me
@StoneyTomato
Жыл бұрын
What is it
@Lauen
Жыл бұрын
@@StoneyTomato it's some dude screaming at the top of his lungs while orgasming. search worlds loudest orgasm and see for yourself
I have the same expensive shop vac at work & you can buy a hepa filter bag for it which does cut down on a lot of small particles being put back in the air, but the bags are expensive also. Love the show 👍🏻👍🏻
Zach and Jer are the best duo, I enjoy your content the most... The whole team is awesome, don't get me wrong! I think everyone does a great job, but I still think Zach and Jer are the best!
5:17 kind of horrifying to think zip ties are used in nuclear power plants in any capacity
Timestamp 10:41: Zach:" Alright Jerry,, the quality of your holes are not quite as i expected ". Jerimiah:" 🗿🗿🗿 ". 🤣🤣🤣
Jobe is one of my favorite humans to ever exist
I couldn't help but think that the hosts were holding in laughter during the drill bit test. All this talk of dirty holes and whatnot.
Always a good day when Zach presents ✌️
To be fair with the heat gun it might be that it was already heated up so it naturally caused the cheaper zip tie to last less time being that it was already hot, overall tho I love this video good work guys
@stpbasss3773
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I use heat guns at work and like you said once you heat it up it's easier to heat up again, the heat stays a long time after turning it off.
@accordsedan
Жыл бұрын
yeah i was just about to comment that but found this one, not very scientific lol just quick videos for money
Why was the Raid Shadow Legends ad actually fun to watch. Donut is eternal
I absolutely love that you put on safety glasses to drop an engine... but wore regular sneakers.
Jeremiah is my favorite host from Donut, he has this cool calmness in him
I moved from the paradigm of pneumatic to electric now that I'm field maintenance instead of automation maintenance. Harbor Freight is awesome for hand tools and the shade tree mechanic, but I have insanely different standards for work and home.
I know I’m a month late but that’s the first sponsor scene I haven’t skipped 🤣 entirely too funny props on that one
This was more fun than education, I'm not sure how to feel about it, because the rest of your content is pretty "scientific" and educational, most of the time.
@msw7021
Жыл бұрын
How to feel about it?
@juliet4093
Жыл бұрын
@@msw7021 yes that is what they said
Zach pushed way too hard with that drill 😂
@youstolemyhandleyoutwat
Жыл бұрын
As a MAN SHOULD.
Your ad quality gets higher every time!!! Amazing Death Knight integration!! Good luck 🤞 and thank you for the video 🥰
Been a mechanic for 15 years and had no idea they made air hammers for babies! I kind of want one.
0:06 in and thinking, "$300 for zip ties? F___k that!"
Project farm tests a ton of products and does a great job with it. If you like review videos like this, his channel does it better (no lame overselling or goofiness).
@downsouthlouisiana
Жыл бұрын
Project Farm is legit!
@sonorangaming449
Жыл бұрын
second this
tbh jerry and zak got chemistry together on the screen i love it they funny af
You guys have finally found the nitch in videos. Love these kinds of videos.
If I could spend as much on my project car as you guys did on zip ties. It would still be sitting in my garage
@SpaceMissile
Жыл бұрын
i had a z sitting for almost a year because of a $300 battery. ...now it needs even more work than a $300 battery. 💀
I would never have guessed that 5 zip ties could hold up that engine.
@mrquackers8986
Жыл бұрын
yea, guess i never have to worry about my zip ties breaking, i zip tied my capacitor, line output converter, AMP, and TV tuner and all the wires for them to the ceiling of my trunk, best why to hide stuff.
Jeremia straight up runs this at this point. This is 11 months old and nothing changed lol. Ich ducking love him That boy can’t drill
I never realized or thought about 300 dollar zipties, i paid 25 for some once that were damn near invincible.
The heat gun was already heated up from the first run so the 2nd run didn’t have a fair advantage?
@mmorgz6622
Жыл бұрын
It would have cooled down in the time it took them to reset the test. The heating elements or wires are very thin and cool down quite fast. And in a 13 second run, the case of the heat gun would have barely warmed. Certainly not enough to hold temp between tests
@kepler656
Жыл бұрын
Proof that youtube commenters can find an issue to complain about in a video better than a needle im the haystack
@allencoxx5739
Жыл бұрын
@@mmorgz6622 we don’t know the time between tests and you say it would barely get warm in 13 seconds but reached a few hundred degrees in a few second. It don’t take long to reach max temperature
@RandysRides
Жыл бұрын
Money advantage ?? They were comparing zip tie cost, not heat gun. Oh....you meant FAIR.
@kepler656
Жыл бұрын
Yes and we have to take into account the ambient humidity and UV index, plus what if some zip ties were stored in a warehouse longer than the other? Also, we never even were told how many clicks the zip ties were set at??? This is a very scientifically accurate test on youtube, we need consistancy!?!11
I love harbor freight zip ties I have 4 bags laying around lol. I also like the drill bit set, I've broken like 3-4 of the little ones over a few years. It's worth the money.
I love how you guys went trough the effort of putting Zack in front of a green screen so you can have two of him in the video! Next time have him do it before he changes his clothes!
I’ve been impressed with the ryobi black oxide drill bits. Never really had a problem drilling through T1 steel 😌
I would never spend that much on a shop vac And I’m convinced you two are at least related
@etherealicer
Жыл бұрын
Question is, how do they hold up after a year (or years of regular use). How do they hold up standing in a corner after having vacuumed some water. And what I found kills electronics, how well do they deal with metal dust. Mind you, I'm not claiming the expensive one is better, just saying that this test might not tell the whole story.
@backspaceninja9860
Жыл бұрын
I love the Dewalt brand so I got a shop vac from Amazon made by Dewalt for about 80$ and it’s fantastic.
@Blortoblorto
Жыл бұрын
Dating
This channel is so good at producing videos that anyone can watch, car person or not. I myself, am a car guy in the sense that I like cars that look cool to me. I also know the difference between diesel and petrol. And that's about it.
@adacskipper
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm not even into cars either and I love this channel
Really smart idea for the engine drop test. Nice job.
Good to see some tests like this
These zipties cost $300 because they are made of special plastic that resists... Corrosion? All plastic has that power!
cant really compare normal drills vs cobalt.. i would always go for cobalt since you can drill stainless steel. with that said you can find cheaper cobalt drills. flaw you guys made is that you need to drill at slow speed to avoid the to overheat and melt
@showmethedammovie
Жыл бұрын
ABC they did it wrong to induce the failure.
@krzysztofczarnecki8238
Жыл бұрын
True, ever since I got fed up with ordinary HSS bits getting blunt (especially the really small ones) and bought a set of cobalt bits I stopped buying HSS bits. I didn't even need to buy much cobalt bits, because they last A LOT longer. They are completely worth it.
@Nickerian91
Жыл бұрын
@@showmethedammovie Not exactly. the point was to test the difference between the same type of product. Cobalt drills are made to be able to drill harder materials. While normal HSS cant because they are to soft. It has nothing to do with the price difference since they bought 2 different products. Should been Cheap/expensive within the same product category. And drilling with to high speed also dont reflect the product quality since you aint really testing the product. The answear is however always cobalt but it had nothing to do with the price. You can find them cheaply online aswell
$300 for zip ties. It better come with a free personal butler to tie them for me
Lay down with a bag of chips and a donut video after a long day of school and work straight gas 🔥
These comparison/hi-low segments are my favorite. Super useful information delivered with a little hands-on action. You guys motivate me to build my tool collection and take on car maintenance myself. Keep up the great work Donut!
@billgross7947
Жыл бұрын
I honestly love this series a lot more than the Hi/Low series with James and Nolan, only because I feel like Zach and Jeremiah are more objective in comparing the value of the higher costs, and sure the the higher priced item might be better, but is it 4 or 5 times better???? Usually not, but James always preferred his expensive parts over Nolan's
Don't feel it was a fair first challenge... by having 15 to start versus 10, means the load from the start is more on the blue versus the black zip ties
@skiivisualz5700
Жыл бұрын
SAME thought i had also!
@archemides1517
Жыл бұрын
but they are also thicker thent the harbour fright ones i doubt it makes much of a difference either way
@ckl8a
Жыл бұрын
I disagree. at the start each blue tie had more load on it, but as soon as they cut the first 5 black ties, the load on each was the same. someone in another comment pointed out, the material the blue ties are made from isn't as strong as the nylon black ties. the blue ones are special because of their chemical and heat resistance, not their strength
I work in a steel wire mill and we use that exact shop vac, the old one we had lasted long before I started (2 years) and saw lots of heavy use. Pumping many many gallons of water/soap and running for hours at a time. We just got a new one this month, seemed worth it
I freaking love these guys and this channel. Such good content... and hilarious