We start work on our 96v Surron Upgrade **QS165 Motor + Prototype 96v Battery**
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After a month of owning a Surron we decided its time for some more POWAH. Looking at the options we thought lets try something new as these days every man and his dog has a 72V Surron.
We set our minds to converting our Surron to 96v using the new QS165 controller
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Hell yeah bro! The best. Looking for that next video already.
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
Thank you - More content coming on this bike next week ⚡⚡⚡
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
going to test out the max speed on a smaller rear sprocket ⚡⚡
Dope to see the encoder version put to work! I have an nd72330 and 165 encoder swapped on my mototec, limited by my battery at the moment, but 8kw and it rips wheelies like its nothing 🤘
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to do more on this project ⚡️ thanks for watching
Go Go Go Thanks for sharing the progression!!!
Well I just subscribed to your channel cuz I'm very interested in what you're actually going to accomplish with your bike looks like it's going to be pretty Epic I'm upgrading my surron also hopefully I can collect up a bunch of your ideas and a lot of other people's ideas and come up with something that's just me great video thank you
hyped ..cant wait to see this battery💯
Whats the model of the far driver controller you used and have you done any top speed and temperature tests with it compared to stock?
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
It’s a factory modded 96530 . Has been customised to accept encoders ⚡️🙏
Dope, do you have a link for the bike stand? Thanks
So you changed out the motor for a QS 165 or just the controller? Power looks insane.
MASSIVE MADNESS! 🤙🏼
Does the qs165 support 96v??? What's the max wattage you can push? 20kw? 30kw?
Cant wait for the 96v video!!
Hey, whTs the purple and blue handlebar !?
Need a blast on this bro 🥰
Proper upgrade!
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
Thank you ! More coming soon ⚡️
Where did you get the better from? I can find everything else besidesthe battery
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
We built it in-house
Can i add a 72v battery on a standard controller for longer range?
@leanderpatsch9160
Жыл бұрын
nope
I've been looking long time to get a 96v 50ah ebike battery built
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
Contact us we can help you with that 👍
Wow how come you get a 90v? what thee?
I need one of those bro!!!!!!!!
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
its a beast ⚡
hurry up and get the 96v battery and controller, idc if it's 10k for both, I need it
What do you think would be better in a quad bro, the qs165 or a geared 138 90h?
@KiloVoltBikes
Ай бұрын
100% the 138 is better , problem with 165 is it’s really designed for use in Surron as a result is a really narrow motor that would most likely overheat easily when used in a quad . My all time fave motor for a quad is the QS138 90h non geared , with a big back sprocket (60t) for wheelies 🚀🚀🙏 Thanks for the comment and hope you like the vids
@beneast5216
Ай бұрын
@@KiloVoltBikes just got a LTZ400 but going with the geared qs138.. what sprockets you think will be best?
Do you get more range because of higher voltage ? Let’s say I have a 72v 50ah molicels and you have a 84v 50ah molicels with the same exact controller and pulling the same exact amps 100A controller … who gets more range and why ??
@DescartesRenegade
Ай бұрын
Although power delivery is more efficient at a higher voltage, mechanical power conversion (by motor as it is rated at 72v for optimal efficiency) is less efficient so you'd actually get lower efficiency.
@rolandroland1485
Ай бұрын
@@DescartesRenegade thanks man I ended up going 84v 65ah instead of 72v … the motor gets less hot and I get to achieve more distance / range … I got 90miles on my pack going 20-30mph and came home at 45% 👌🏿
@jaribilesh8492
7 күн бұрын
@@rolandroland1485whats ur top speed?
@rolandroland1485
7 күн бұрын
@@jaribilesh849284mph so far
wicked! The most lethal Sur Ron ever created bro, genius. Are you or have you reinforced any parts?
Absolutely savage and without the 96v battery, you gonna burn your tires 😝 ! One question, do you have a link for the red and blue light that you mount on the handle bar ?
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video . Hopefully the thing absolutely RIPS @ 96v . The bike is seriously quick at 72v already . Sure thing here’s a link to the light amzn.eu/d/bzLIeJo
@krycesheppard5150
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the link ! Waiting for the next vid ! Your are great !
Trying to decide between a talaria or surron but it’s burning my brain out 😂 sick bike tho!
@rolandroland1485
Жыл бұрын
What you end up getting ?
What’s that square wave controller handle like?
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
Not sure if your watching the right video / no square wave controllers featured in this ..
@je7647
Жыл бұрын
@@KiloVoltBikessorry dude was a noob lol love your videos
Yoooo how much would that little 50cc looking quad cost in aus $ I would really love too cop one
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure where to find them in Aus but here in the uk can pick them up for around 700-800 brand new
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching ⚡️
Winning ☝️🤟👽🚲🎬
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching ⚡️⚡️🚀🛸
i wish i had the money for one i just have the stock battery.
Thats crazy this will be the fastes sur ron on the planet
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
We will do some speed testing when it’s all complete see how fast it is ⚡️
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching ⚡️⚡️
I would love to build this battery
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
Good fun ⚡️ thanks for watching
@bobbyjunelive1993
Жыл бұрын
You build batts?
@BigTwoTrey
Жыл бұрын
@@bobbyjunelive1993 Nope I'm a metal worker looking to take it up a notch with some cell routing
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
@@bobbyjunelive1993 ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
What controller are you using?
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
manufacturer modded fardriver 96530. specially tweaked for encoder support
@AirTsinelas
Жыл бұрын
@@KiloVoltBikes is there a reason you went with the 96530 instead of the one you originally planned on using?
Install a 6 speed cassette gearbox .. and a clutch
Alien Bikes!!!!!!
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
👽👽👽👾👾👾
96 volt battery 😵 with a stock Sur Ron can ride for Miles 👍
@rolandroland1485
Жыл бұрын
Do you get more range because of higher voltage ? Let’s say I have a 72v 50ah molicels and you have a 84v 50ah molicels with the same exact controller and pulling the same exact amps 100A controller … who gets more range and why ??
@paulhope3401
7 ай бұрын
Its quite complex and I cant give you a definitive answer without a full lab test. With an identical power level for both bikes and with sprocket sizes adjusted to give the same top speed... In theory the Higher voltage should run cooler and therefore be a bit more efficient as less energy is wasted in heat.... or at least that would be true if you could also choose a lower kV motor for the higher voltage. Power in watts is Voltage x Amps (P=V x i) ...so if you run a higher voltage less Amps are drawn..... higher Amp draw means more heat. There will other variables which will interfere with the above though such as motor design, windings and kV suiting a voltage sweetspot.... as when you go up in voltage you normally choose a motor with a lower kV (RPM's per volt) rather than adjusting speed via sprocket size. With identical kV motor on higher voltage you could end up saturating the motors electromagnetic fields which then requires FOC field weakening which creates a lot of heat... so then you could end up with lower overall efficiency. I think you'd really need to have a lower kV motor to be sure of a higher voltage efficiency increase.
Very cool!
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
thank you glad you enjoyed it
@rickvassell8349
Жыл бұрын
@@KiloVoltBikes I've got a Leili 12K witha 72V 48A, so happy with it, dual front disk. It's got volcano shocks in front and rear to match. I got it from China in December 2021. I'm in the US, much more lax than UK or Europe in general. Cops don't bother me, they have more pressing matters in New Jersey. I'm not into wheelies or stunts, but I like going 60mph if I want, with the stability of a motorcycle. I Don't normally, but it helps to get me out of situations. Sometimes I peddle when cops are around. You might say I'm an outlaw.
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
@@rickvassell8349 that is awesome , I really like those frames . I bet it’s awesome riding around New Jersey on that . 12kw is plenty power to have some fun. Most the time your right cops have so much better things to do then pester bikes . I’d love to see some of the places you ride in your city . Thanks for the comment and glad you enjoyed the vid
Standing backflip machine
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
way too easy to loop 😅 defo not for the faint of heart
I need more fardriver vids. These Walmart bikes are cool but the controller situation is far more valuable. We have sabvoton burning out due to ass flux Kelly ass VTOL asss ASI 2-8000 line is a god dam cult, assssss. Really need someone to save us. Have nd72850 on my "stealth" clone but can't get it to drive the motor. I think the halls are not wired correctly. Wish I had more fardriver vids.
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
We will do some more fardriver based videos , we really like them and have used them for a good number of builds
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
Add a cheap 5speed gear box too the EV motor 😌👍
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
Would be cool ⚡️⚡️ thanks for watching
So encoder is better? I hate halls
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
So far this encoder motor is absolutely RIPPING
Surronster would get this lol
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
His videos are sick ⚡️⚡️🙏
@GaelLazerYT
Жыл бұрын
@@KiloVoltBikes agreed and so are yours
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
@@GaelLazerYT thank you - glad you enjoy them
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
@@GaelLazerYT thank you glad you enjoy them ⚡️🙏 lots more coming soon
@GaelLazerYT
Жыл бұрын
@@KiloVoltBikes cant wait to get a surron i have to get a car first cuz my parents you know how it is when it comes to monye lol
MAD🤯🤯
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
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Stock Motor Better than QS and Bac Better than FarDriver
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
Any evidence to back up those claims? Willing to bet you’ve never tried Fardriver or the QS motor . We would rather hear tested facts rather then opinions based on rumours
@SurRon-GLE
Жыл бұрын
@@KiloVoltBikes EMoto Bro just uploaded a Data research video and Test
@SurRon-GLE
Жыл бұрын
@@KiloVoltBikes kzread.info/dash/bejne/qIWmqLyKmJu4crQ.html
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
@@SurRon-GLE Which version of the 165 ? Encoder or hall sensor as the 2 perform very differently . Also very doubtful he tested the motor conclusively at a full range of voltages and gearing setups . So one video and a few silly comments won’t stop us testing the QS165 Vs stock vs KO . Overall your comments are non constructive and also have no context as we have proven in this video the 165 and fardriver IS faster then stock setup - the draggy times don’t lie…
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
@@SurRon-GLE “Motor won’t take no more power” If you believe such statements provided in this video then I think it’s probably a waste of time us discussing motors and controllers 😂
We tried that motor already. It is terrible,,worse than stock. it heats up quick and cant accept more power than 8000 watts. Stick to the stock motor
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
We are playing with tuning and settings currently . What voltage was you running it at ?
@Buffetology
Жыл бұрын
@@KiloVoltBikes 72v. Motor is crap. It does not take more than 8kw, while the stock motor performs at higher power and voltages and the output is linear.
@KiloVoltBikes
Жыл бұрын
@@Buffetology do you have any proof for those claims ? - it’s not what we are seeing at all . Many others have this motor and are pulling allot more then 8kw also .