A man who has nothing he'd die for isn't living.

@Loquacious_Jackson

2 ай бұрын

I'm 14 and this is too deep

@sixman2926

2 ай бұрын

@@Loquacious_Jackson its ok. just keep these things in your head.

@sixman2926

2 ай бұрын

this is true

@frog6054

2 ай бұрын

Sounds like me, I ain't living and gonna kill myself someday.

@HearthguardHG

2 ай бұрын

Counterpoint, if you die then you are no longer alive.

He described why in modern times (despite many having luxuries that could only be imagined a century ago) misery is present and ever growing.

@ASteppingStone

2 ай бұрын

Real. And many “3rd world” or developing countries have the happiest people alive, despite having abysmally low standards of living. Money is often not freedom, but bondage

@blackshadexl

2 ай бұрын

🤔🤔 yea I always wondered why wealthy people commit suicide

@TrunksG-or4s

2 ай бұрын

"everyday there are more and more people making life easier and easier yet more and more difficult, with railways, steamboats and omnibus and other easily apprehended compendium. There remains one danger namely that the ease become too great that people will want difficulty" Kierkegaard.

@spiderjerusalem4009

2 ай бұрын

good times create weak men hard times create strong men

@xmathmanx

2 ай бұрын

​@@spiderjerusalem4009brilliant, let's make life hard for everyone, start with yourself tho 😁

"I wanted to explode like a firework, lighting the sky for an instant and disappear."

@ctrl_x1770

2 ай бұрын

Nice quote, where is this from?

@_SFW

2 ай бұрын

Deepak Throatra?

@sisyphus_squats

2 ай бұрын

@@ctrl_x1770 it is a quote from the same man in this video, Yukio Mishima, he was a rather famous Japanese poet who eventually committed seppuku after an attempted coup d'etat in Japan. He wrote many beautiful things.

@desmonides

2 ай бұрын

@ZachSnider-ts3uiNo one may come to The Father, except through The Son

@danv1324

2 ай бұрын

Maybe he felt like a plastic bag, drifting through the wind. Perhaps he wanted to start again

Perfectly explains the rampant nihilism and hedonism we see today.

@GnosticAtheist

2 ай бұрын

And? It is what it is. It is also self-correcting. It is nothing but a process that leads to whatever it leads to.

@mistermoonman6232

2 ай бұрын

@@GnosticAtheist "and?". Wdym? there were no such precedents in history for the current devilry, that's why it is remarkable

@Supe204

2 ай бұрын

Athism is the root of this … not believing in god and having no religion is not normal state of humans … God did send messengers all abrahamic religions talked almost about the same things despite it being formed hundred of years apart ..

@purplevincent4454

2 ай бұрын

Angsty atheists moved on to the "literally me" type of content where they mope around like sad losers. I have hope for the future because the solution is simple. Find Jesus. Find God. Society will have to reach a low point before society at large rekindles its relation with religion, but you can get a head start on it.

@vidguru0062

2 ай бұрын

@@Supe204atheism has nothing to do with hedonism and many atheists have ideals outside of self-interest.

As soon as he started to talk about noble causes, you knew he was going to mention how this concept was dead in today's world : it's all about becoming rich and successful and comparing yourself to others, and it's draining as hell for most people.

@gunnasintern

2 ай бұрын

facts. true success comes from inner peace and self acceptance, and no amount of material or status will change that. having good mental health and financial literacy are by far sooooo much more important than being “rich and successful” “My riches is life, forever.”

@RobertSmith-gj3mv

2 ай бұрын

>it's all about becoming rich and successful and comparing yourself to others this is not an accident, corporate influence has spread these ideas throughout our culture via media and social science research. (This is not a conspiracy theory either - there are many documents where this kind of social engineering has been discussed very explicitly.) They want you to think that you're just a selfish hairless monkey, and deny your higher emotions, lest you do things like create egalitarian worker-run workplaces and render corporations obsolete.

@ogaimon3380

2 ай бұрын

yes having money should be n1 if you want a familly,too many miserable family where i live because they got no money and 4 kids,they live slaves life their kids have shit education and get slave jobs

@Ankhar2332

2 ай бұрын

if you are not doing everything to be rich, you are going towards the poverty, and poor people are the worst - when a thief will stole you car - its probably some idiot who believed in noble causes instead of getting a job. so noble causes are basically scam to get enough poor people as collapsing economy need a lot of slaves

@TheBachB

2 ай бұрын

That's just capitalism. Commit yourself to making a better world, one without capitalism, and you'll find your noble cause.

I don’t like that KZread recommends this to me. The algorithm knows a little too much and it’s uncomfortable.

@ASteppingStone

2 ай бұрын

😂😂

@stefandobre226

2 ай бұрын

better than some miley cyrus songs or whatnot

@al-oh8fq

2 ай бұрын

The algorithm can not stop you anyway. So it's knowledge is non important.

@maximilianthiel8485

2 ай бұрын

@@al-oh8fqmakes it even more twisted tbh

@enrater123

2 ай бұрын

It just thinks you're similar to other people who clicked on this video tbh

"The world's still the same size; there's just less in it" - Captain Jack Sparrow

@homosexualbadger

2 ай бұрын

"I'm gay actor Michael Douglas" - Michael Douglas

@cheshirehat93

2 ай бұрын

And many times the amount of people, fighting for the same dwindling resources and opportunities.

@Ankhar2332

2 ай бұрын

@@cheshirehat93 good thing there are enough army and police to deal with any discontent

One of my favorite lyrics from Radiohead: I’m not living, I’m just killing time

@CraigStCyrPlus

2 ай бұрын

True Love Waits Latitude 2009 is best performance for those interested.

@NealCaen

2 ай бұрын

Now that you’ve found it, It’s gone, Now that you feel it, You don’t.

@maxn.7234

2 ай бұрын

Those who say they are killing time do not understand its real value.

@paulofurtado4925

2 ай бұрын

So am i.

@KoiNoYokan37

2 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I have NEVER heard someone else express this. In my mid 20's after a string of drug addicted partners, I tried to off myself, and when I was almost done; I realized, this is abandoning EVERYone who suffers, like me and MUCH worse. Compassion for others will give you a reason to live and to protect, look inside, we are built to care for each other, to protect each other from suffering

@sixman2926

2 ай бұрын

im glad you are here and ok. you are right too. compassion does give us a reason to live.

@r.t.5767

2 ай бұрын

This is my reason to live as well

@acex222

2 ай бұрын

This is somewhat what the Buddha taught.

@jarrodhall3686

2 ай бұрын

Bodhicitta

@Here4TheHeckOfIt

2 ай бұрын

Take care of yourself. Compassion fatigue is real.

Nothing to live for or die for.

@sixman2926

2 ай бұрын

exactly. so now you must create that something.

@lime455

2 ай бұрын

U are not nothing.

@sfridisow185

2 ай бұрын

OKAY BUT ANOTHER PERSON COULD HAVE THE SAME EXACT CIRCUMSTANCES IN LIFE AS YOU BUT HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OUTLOOK!!! IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW DEPRESSED YOU ARE!!!

@sfridisow185

2 ай бұрын

THERE'S A STATE OF MIND WHERE YOU REALLY CAN'T "SENSE" POSITIVITY, AND EVERY IMMEDIATE THOUGHT THAT GENERATES IN YOUR HEAD IS NEGATIVE!!! I REALLY BELIEVE IT'S YOUR PHYSICAL HEALTH THAT DETERMINES THE BALANCE OF CHEMICALS IN YOUR BRAIN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT!!! SO GET FULL UNBROKEN SLEEP EVERY NIGHT, RUN FOR MILES EVERYDAY, AND I'M NOT A PHYSICIAN AT ALL BUT I THINK EATING TOO MUCH SUGAR STOPS YOUR SYSTEM FROM WORKING PROPERLY!!!

@ad-ui6ey

2 ай бұрын

​@@sfridisow185 it's not a competition buddy.

this rings so true with me, 24 years old, never worked towards something I cared for and it shows in everything... when I'm done with uni finally, I swore to myself to not work for meaninglessness anymore and to work towards something and for something that I really care for (in my case, music)

@ASteppingStone

2 ай бұрын

Hell yeah, just be careful not to set high expectations. Often it’s the guilt and shame of not achieving what we feel we should* do that holds us back from enjoying life. I encourage you to accept yourself where you are, be honest with yourself, and try your best. Be mindful of what is in your control and what isn’t. Best of luck!

@broncoxy

2 ай бұрын

@@ASteppingStone Thanks man, I tend to be quite the perfectionist, but I think in my current situations, my goals and expectations seem reasonable~ I'll do my best and see how it turns out ^^

@obsessiforgenb8374

2 ай бұрын

We're on similar paths. I wish you luck on your journey. Perfectionism is the enemy of the satisfaction we deserve. Keep going.

@broncoxy

2 ай бұрын

@@obsessiforgenb8374 and best of luck to you too~~

@elEterno144

2 ай бұрын

As a musician I can tell you music is one of the most vain things in the world, also useless when you see it the right way. If you hope to be fullfilled making music, being famous and having it's pleasures, entertaining masses of people you don't know and you don't care about. Giving them a moment of "satisfaction" in exchange of their money; you're in for a rude awakening.

This goes back to Nietzsche and the existentialists who basically said without God nihilism is a serious threat, when nothing means anything people start to despair and must be strong enough to deal with the void.

@jmanners

2 ай бұрын

Maybe we should go back to worshipping multiple gods like the Greeks and all ancient civilizations that predate Christianity

@HeyMomonia

2 ай бұрын

So instead of finding true meaning we should believe in religion? What if religion is a lie should we still believe in it for this false sense of meaning? That's always been the issue for me Nietzsche never actually found an answer to nihilism so he turned blindly to religion because the only way to combat it that he found was through blindly believing in something. And for the people that don't believe in religion they never got a true answer. I don't think that religion answers nihilism. I think the true answer to nihilism is finding our own sense of meaning. What gives us personal purpose. For exemple i hate working useless in offices and such so i'm on my way to find a job that will give me a sense of meaning like becoming a firefighter or an ambulance worker. One or the other if i saved a single life then it'll all be worth it and if it's not at least i saved lives. That's what answers nihilism not religion. Religion is putting duck tape on a problem that's too big to be fixed with it.

@MiloFPS

2 ай бұрын

@@HeyMomonia Nietzsche despised religion and thought Christianity was worse than the others (because it values the weak and the sick and holds back the strong and the courageous). His ubermensch was meant to be to man what man was to ape and would be able to find its own values, answer to itself, control its impulses so that was his answer.

@KeepCalmCapybara

2 ай бұрын

​@@HeyMomoniaYou clearly don't know what true religiosity is, man. Do not think about codes and laws and doctrines, for these are just exteriorities, manifestations. The true religion resides in one's heart, and it is not an individual thing, but rather a social thing: the way you get along with others; things like love and compasion; the desire for peace and enlightment of the spirit; the desire for truth and meaning that is not bound to materialism, but to positive things that makes us human. We humans have a heart and reason: the meaning of life resides in between these two things, I think. I, for example, find the meaning of my life in caring for my family, and working to improve my life and my family's life, turning myself into a better person, and helping others. It requires patience, and many other virtues to achieve this. The meaning of life don't need to be something spetacular: it can actually be something pretty simple.

@HeyMomonia

2 ай бұрын

@@KeepCalmCapybara Those are values that you personally have they are not necessarily religious. You don't need religion to live like that. Trust me i used to be religious for actually most of my and quit it less than 10 years ago. And guess what? I still hold the same values but without the problems i had with religion. Like the way they often see women as inferior, the way they treat none believers and gay people, the way they make you believe that if someone doesn't hold the same belief he's gonna end up in hell and be tortured forever. You don't need religion for this. Hell you can believe in and an afterlife without religion. Those concepts existed way before Christianity or even judaism. Religion tells you to treat others well but also tells you they're probably gonna end up in hell. Also why do you do good things? Because it makes you feel good? Because god asked you to? Or because you fear hell? Those are all questions i had to go through and confront my beliefs until i realized i always made my own morals and meaning in life and religion was corrupting it. Maybe it's not the same for you but i think it's important to have different point of views and show people there are different options instead of telling them if they don't believe the same way i do they're gonna end up in hell tortured forever.

Strange this pops up. I was born into solitude and 41 years later im still there. Being of service to people is where im at my best. A decade has passed since the last time I had any sort of company. The colour is stripped from the world. Money buys me things I don’t care about and i eat food i no longer enjoy. 30yrs was long enough to fight the inevitable.

@godart369

2 ай бұрын

Wow man

@CraigStCyrPlus

2 ай бұрын

Cry baby cry.

@One_Preacher

2 ай бұрын

Inevitable is like a cloud, it passes You are not you're Body, not even The Mind Foregoing Self, the Universe grows I ☸

@ezakustam

2 ай бұрын

​@@CraigStCyrPlusWith a comment like that, you completely missed the point of the music you listen to.

@ezakustam

2 ай бұрын

Don't forget: you don't need a government or social system or bad friends to be compassionate and ethical or to exist. I'll be your friend if no one else is wise enough to do so.

We traded a dangerous vividness of daily experience and the full range of our emotions for safety, comfort, and predictability. There are more years in our lives, but they are mostly empty.

@steely4729

2 ай бұрын

last part of your statement kinda struck a cord with me

@booshank2327

2 ай бұрын

Sometimes I think life would be much better if we put a hard cap on our lifespan. Like Blade Runner replicants. Let's say 70yo. Having that finality set in stone, people would be less likely to walk around aimlessly as if they're going to live forever.

@OccuredJakub12

2 ай бұрын

​@@booshank2327 Bruh we already do have that and it hasn't helped a lot If anything there's a bigger pressure to make something of yourself but since we live in an individualist society, we have nothing to put our lives into except get rich and indulge in hedonism People who lived a quarter our age built pyramids and cathedrals

@user-jk7vp7vn2k

Ай бұрын

when did we trade one for another? was it the industrial revolution or maybe it was during ancient times when we cultivated the arts, built baths and spas, had a sewer system and other amenities and luxuries? humanity's goal has always been to better its quality of life and make it easier

@mtheory85

Ай бұрын

@@user-jk7vp7vn2k That's the folly.

This is another reason I’m glad I didn’t reenlist. There are no noble causes anymore.

@theslyngl

2 ай бұрын

When were there? And how is defending Ukraine not a noble cause

@daroachdoggSR

2 ай бұрын

​@@theslyngl Not my problem plus people in authority always lie when it comes to war. I'm not going to die for Ukrainian or Russian propaganda.

@daroachdoggSR

2 ай бұрын

​​@@theslyngl>there were never any noble causes >Fighting for Ukraine is the only noble cause Huh?

@crazyrr144

2 ай бұрын

@@theslyngl are you posting from ukraine in the field?

@CinHalCedHerChance

2 ай бұрын

@@theslyngl It's a B.S. "war", you need to dive into some rabbit holes and you'll see the entire world is all scripted and they're literally all in on all of it (behind closed doors).

This is so True. Withot a real purpose, life is pretty much meaningless. You have to know who you truly are and where to go. If you have a gift or a talent, then use that to make the world a better place. It's your duty to do so and you know it.

@sixman2926

2 ай бұрын

right

@True38

2 ай бұрын

@@sixman2926 *True.

@nightfighter7452

Ай бұрын

Nah

@True38

Ай бұрын

@@nightfighter7452 Nobody cares about you :)

@scrung

Ай бұрын

what is this interaction LOL

I found this out 20 years ago. There's a limit in how much joy you can find in chasing your own selfish desires. Real happiness comes from a purpose to live for people and causes greater than ourselves. It expands beyond the self. Its why selfishness and depression go hand in hand. If you want to cure it immediately, stop thinking about yourself so damn much and volunteer your time for others. You can have all the money in the world but hedonism and living for your own sake has no greater meaning. Even though the uneducated don't understand why this is, they feel it nonetheless. The human spirit craves purpose, dignity, real love and connection to others. Look at all the centerian communities around the world and you'll find the same. Look at all those people around the world who live a non modern lifestyle, with deep connections with others and their environment. This is all common knowledge.

@sixman2926

2 ай бұрын

beautifully said. im only 19 and im glad im realizing this early on.

@JophielThe

2 ай бұрын

im tired and drained of my selfishness how can i change

@sixman2926

2 ай бұрын

@@JophielThe you are already much further than many people. you are much further just for the fact that you can recognize it. now what you have to do is be very conscious of it during your everyday life. changing is not about making huge drastic changes very quickly. its about consciously making small decisions that bring you closer to where you want to be. i would suggest you start with kindness. start with kindness without expecting anything in return and i mean anything. be kind to everyone even those who hurt you. im sure you can do it.

@quanganhdobui1432

2 ай бұрын

Now we've got to figure out: "What is the right ultimate purpose for humanity?" Be careful, because you don't want to go down the path of fascism, as many have done before.

@marsship921

2 ай бұрын

I seriously doubt that being exploited will cure anyones depression, because I see people complaining about that too

The purpose in life, in my eyes, is to find that something you'd be willing to pass away for. Thing is, there are very little things nowadays that are worthy of your life.

@user-jk7vp7vn2k

Ай бұрын

that's the dumbest shit ever, did you even read what you wrote before posting it? mishima's a psycho who could only see things through his biased perspective so obviously his solution was to emulate the samurai he idolized and end everything with him dying. you're not in the middle of a war and even if you were you'd be of more use to your cause alive than dead and left to rot. get your head out of your ass and realize that you don't need a flashy and cinematic ideal to strive for in order to have a fulfilling life - what you need is to LIVE it. whether it's charity, social change, activism, doing something for your local community, creating art or just taking care of your friends and family it's all perfectly valid starting points. sitting in your room and thinking about how you wish someone would give you a sword and hype you up to go to war is infantile

@jaybuck9124

Ай бұрын

Love for others.

@nightfighter7452

Ай бұрын

​@@jaybuck9124 mid

When you live for yourself you live for what is already dead. Live for what never dies.

@halionextra

Ай бұрын

rocks?

@ohwell2163

Ай бұрын

@@halionextra 😂it’s funny until you realise you’re degrading the most valuable experience you will ever have ever just to appease someone else views or feelings

@halionextra

Ай бұрын

@@ohwell2163 nothing that is valuable lasts forever. I'm sorry to break it for you

@ohwell2163

Ай бұрын

@@halionextra The only thing that’s valuable lasts forever.

This hits like a truck.

@_SFW

2 ай бұрын

like a rock, a ticking clock... *BERSERKER!*

I've been a fan of Yukio Mishima's work for years now and this is the first time i'm hearing him talk. If it wasn't that the algorithm recommended me this i would have missed it. Thank you for uploading!

there still exist so many unjust structures, so much suffering, that if ones educates themselves even a little about them, they can find a noble cause

@Juliana-rw6pt

Ай бұрын

very true.

I understand the sentiment, and the lack of strong causes is a real one, but this is what spiralled into the negative aspects of Japanese culture. Unnecessary and unproductive self-sacrifice. Not to mention the exploitation of loyalty and a sense of righteousness by liars and greed. Finding a noble cause to LIVE FOR is what should be sought after, not dying for one, even if it's a testament to the commitment of the individual. Giving your life is moment of dedication, living for one is a life-long responsibility. You just have to make an effort to find a cause, instead of waiting for one to be presented to you.

@HeyMomonia

2 ай бұрын

What he's saying is that there was a time where there wasn't even an effort to make to find meaning. Now it's so hard to find. I also disagree with you when you say people need a cause to live for and not to die for. Because both are actually connected. For exemple a firefighter lives for a cause but is also willing to risk his life and die for it. A lot of the time both are connected and some people need them to be connected. Of course not everyone an artist doesn't need to risk his life for his art. But even this could also be a cause to die for to some artists. I do think your point of view is very interesting and positive but i felt it was a little bit incomplete. If you disagree with me feel free to answer my comment.

@rzt430

2 ай бұрын

as far as results go, it went pretty well for japan. they would be living much better lives as individuals if the USA did not decide to pull them down out of irrational fear and for the sake of preserving its place in the global status quo. the USA is doing the same thing to china nowadays. now these people have to grind harder for less thanks to the state of the economy, while you see what the USA is doing to itself lol i would rather have japanese culture than whatever the hell you call this in the USA any time of the day

@wilhelmu

2 ай бұрын

mishima was suicidal, and ultimately he killed himself.

Very true. There's ways though to create a noble cause such as craftsmanship, self discipline, good leadership and integrity at many stations still. However it seems like there's a trend toward ending all harmful things which increasingly have broadened in scope. The powers that be seem to have settled on a few noble causes to end all noble causes: the ending of death itself, homogenizing the world and reducing everyone into harmless consumers that don't get into trouble. Like, I think there could be a safe-ish society where there minimal senseless violence, but there needs to be an edge somewhere, a culture of self discipline involving physical and bookish education, festivals that celebrate nature/processes that support the society, etc.

@quanganhdobui1432

2 ай бұрын

Utopia! A world without suffering and everyone lives! Kingdom of heaven on earth, hallelujah!

@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்

2 ай бұрын

*"homogenizing the world"* Ironically, the people who are the most fervent pushers of homogenization parrot "Diversity is our strength".

needed to hear that right now. thanks for posting this.

@Rishabh-Dev

2 ай бұрын

Yup

I feel like I got nothing to look forward to in life. No purpose or hope. People prefer material wealth and superficial status over uplifting or encouraging their fellow human beings. I don't care if it's a cliche complaint at this point. This contemporary world has no place for boldness or honor.

@sixman2926

2 ай бұрын

hmm very valid. i understand where you are coming from. so why dont you create something to look forward to in life. why dont you create that purpose or hope. if you see others prefering material wealth and superficial status over uplifiting or encouraging their fellow human beings, then why dont you become the change you are looking for. it should always start with you. i think that if you believe in what you are saying then you should show it and other people will follow suit. never give up and stay positive. you got this.

@Criador42

2 ай бұрын

✝

@ConfusedRevolutionary

2 ай бұрын

​@@sixman2926I appreciate the encouraging words. I will try to gather up the strength to actually practice what I preach and perhaps someday I may feel hope once again.

@ASteppingStone

2 ай бұрын

And kudos to you already for having the strength to use your voice and share your thoughts. It seems many others resonate with what you said. I admire your vulnerability

@yush4673

2 ай бұрын

We are limited beings and to acknowledge that is to acknowledge the world around us. One cannot find tranquility living the superficial life, so the only place for us humans to be is to live beyond ourselves.

I think we kinda recognize historical noble causes as hollow, fighting for honour or loyalty to your ruler back then was a way to get you to fight and die in wars for them or a principle of personal reciprocity, cultural norms about social status and gender roles kept society stable but were also highly restrictive on freedom and our ability to make decisions for ourselves, they also allowed the ruling class to more easily control the rest of society. Religion is definitely still widely available if you choose but many in the west just don’t believe in it as strongly as before. Empires have all collapsed and most recognize they were just a way for a country to enrich themselves off the resources of others. In the present people still believe in political leaders, in ideologies, in materialism as noble causes and while I don’t think these things are bad to support, making them the purpose of your life I think will make you less happy. The challenge is to find a noble cause in modern society, and really to start I think it can be as simple as volunteering at a food bank or any charity where you can see the effects of your actions, or helping your friends out more, or living a simple but fulfilling life where you can be proud of the work you do, or starting a family and doing your absolute best to help your children achieve their own dreams. I’m not religious myself but I have many friends who have found purpose from just talking to people on an emotional level in church and helping people find their own purpose, or finding meaning in a relationship with a higher power. Ultimately the biggest benefit and downside of modern noble causes is that it’s all up to you and you get to decide for yourself what you are willing to live and die for.

@quanganhdobui1432

2 ай бұрын

Awesome take. Honestly, I think fighting for a king is still something that's beautiful and satisfying in a primal sense. It's just that humans are easily corruptible creatures, so a human king is just not a very good long-term solution for any societies.

@Garioty

2 ай бұрын

@@quanganhdobui1432 Yeah I agree with that, monarchies and "great leaders" have a sort of romantic or nostalgic feel to them and they always make for cool stories, even if the reality is different.

@user-ly7bj9gb5v

2 ай бұрын

Sorry but we are not solipsistic.

He is right. But Japan has been very suicidal society for long time even today

@noname-dk7ri

Ай бұрын

Recent data show that it is not so different from the United States.

INDEED. Thank you for posting this. 🙏🏾💛🕊🦉

Thanks Sixman for sharing this. I needed to hear this 🤝

this video came to me at the right time, i've just cried and feel realigned on how i want to live, thank you.

This is why narcissists are always miserable

@sixman2926

2 ай бұрын

true. i never thought about it like that.

@chillout8320

2 ай бұрын

Most famous narcissist/people with aspd have had groups of friends. Even they, as self centred as they are, can’t be alone

@adriansison1503

2 ай бұрын

nope

@yokothespacewhale

2 ай бұрын

I just spent a year people pleasing and boy am I not miserable at all

@javierdavidmarimoncorreaes7598

2 ай бұрын

actually they have their own personal ideals that can fulfill themselves ofcourse based on self centered motivations

“For you have made us for yourself, oh God, and our hearts are restless until they rest in you.” -St. Augustine

@GnosticAtheist

2 ай бұрын

I will not rest until I am returned to nothing. Damn God and his despotic ways, forcing me to exist in his sub-par reality. Also, why would I want to rest inside God? Isnt he a dude?

@Nace369

2 ай бұрын

@@GnosticAtheist Well said my monocled atheist friend. I'd award you a reddit gold if I could. *tips fedora*

@partly_sunny1955

Ай бұрын

@@GnosticAtheistGod is a father figure, if you ever understood, reasons why he says he is father God, and none come before him, He created everything even the Devil, and you and the devil free will, and he says repent or be cast out on the day of judgment in the place devils fear, a black and blue hell forever.

@PedroHLima12

Ай бұрын

That's why we can't be at ease for long while living alone with ourselves. We were made to be in fellowship with the Sublime, Supreme, Beautiful God-- anything leds than that won't satisfy our souls. Noble causes are but the shadows of His ways cast upon the Earth. May we awake to seek Him, and in Him find what we were made for. That's what Christ meant when He said "for he who keeps his life shall lose it, but he who gives his life for my sake, shall have it". Living in oneself is only a kind of dying, as the video suggests; but following Christ, even to the point of giving up of the comfort and ease of our life to instead better conform to His way of seeing what really matters, will give us a life truly worth living, worthy enough for an eternity of living.

@jaybuck9124

Ай бұрын

"You should remember the words of the Lord Jesus: ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”” ‭‭Acts of the Apostles‬ ‭20‬:‭35‬ ‭NLT‬‬ God bless yall. Stay loving others, of course, yourself too.🙏❤️

He hit it on the head.

I genuinely cannot name a single thing in today's world I could die fighting for.

@sixman2926

2 ай бұрын

so create that thing then

@somedude9828

2 ай бұрын

yea, same

@michaelsmith953

2 ай бұрын

why not fight for freedom and democracy? not sure where you live now but in the u.s. there has no choice in presidential candidates, the eu is governed by the unelected council, china is governed by the communist party, and everywhere in general is corrupted by the rich bribes being legal(or easy to say aren't a bribe). Just saying, your kids might enjoy a world where they can vote and afford a house. not just be a slave (atleast slaves used to be housed for free without worry, debt slavery can barely offer you a mattress without the security it won't turn into a sidewalk)

@gloop32

2 ай бұрын

If you live in a first world country look around you

@let_me_explain8572

2 ай бұрын

@@gloop32 and see what? Radfems, lgbtqwerty+++ 🤡, homeless people on the streets, veterans being treated as traitors, universities indocrinating our youth with destructive ideas and harmful narratives, aliens skyrocketing the crime statistics? The west is a decaying empire, it's not worth living in here anymore let alone dying for it.

Bittersweet relationship and fondness for Mishima. I love his work and find him to be really interesting despite the obvious problematic things. He'll always fascinate and inspire me.

This is better advice than any therapist will give you

@cesargonzalez4146

2 ай бұрын

Mishima killed himself after trying to spark a popular uprising in front of the japanese Diet, he was wearing an imperial army officer uniform with the sword and everything.

@dylanbuchanan6511

2 ай бұрын

@@cesargonzalez4146 and still better than most therapists

@RongleBringer

2 ай бұрын

​@@cesargonzalez4146just because his attemped "solution" was insane doesn't mean his observations were wrong. Marx is well worth reading even though attempts at full Communism have ultimately failed

@AKK5I

2 ай бұрын

@@RongleBringer Nah I'm good thanks

@kidkangaroo5213

Ай бұрын

Find me a therapist who opposes finding personal meaning in your life, I dare you. Mishima was a far-right nutcase throwing his life away for a LARP. That you find him inspirational, is incredibly pathetic

I am glad to have listened to this man's words, it reaffirms my views that I must start a family and that all the self improvement that I am doing to become the best man I can has to be directed to serve others and to live and die for a cause, which undoubtedly will be the family that I'll form in a future

@johnran6015

2 ай бұрын

It gets your mind directed right but it's no guarantee of any success.

@alexamderhamiltom5238

2 ай бұрын

worked for me, family truly cured my depression and makes my life not only bearable but worth fighting for.

Bro dropped a foreshadowing and thought we (wouldn't) notice.

Everyone saying that there are no causes, what the hell are they talking about? Society desperately needs people who get to work for noble causes if we want to continue with a future, whether cleaning beaches and rivers, planting a tree, helping animals or poor people, examples are everywhere, we don't need a fucking government, religion dynasty I don't care, they're all the same shit. The examples of your help can be applied everywhere, sacrifice yourself for something worthwhile, create your own noble cause.

Or you can just be strong enough to live for yourself

I randomly thought of this video (I'd seen it in a montage) and 2 hours later it's on my home page. They're in my head; get them out please.

I've found that I'm always happiest when I'm sharing in joy with friends or family, cooking for loved ones, helping friends with projects. Stuff like that, I think it's the closest thing you can get to that idea of not living for yourself. Trying to use what you have to help those who've helped you or care about you.

@jaybuck9124

Ай бұрын

Stay loving🙏❤️ God bless you.

Hmmm, very calming in a way.... nice, thank you!

wonderful interview

Life nowadays is better in allmost every way. Its just we now have more time to think.

Very powerful wisdom, the truth is scary to most.

It's so true! It's an ebb and flow. If you feel useless you're probably just tired/burned out. Don't worry, people will give you support, as long as you don't try to act above where you are, i.e. try to act helpful in order to virtue signal because you feel down. That's the problem. Stop worrying.

Perhaps nowadays, to "die for something" means to let ALL other possible future lives that one MIGHT lead cease to come into form, for to allow a single, unique life to emerge in service of something.

@sixman2926

2 ай бұрын

and i think thats worth it

@mr_phantastic

2 ай бұрын

@@sixman2926 goofy ahh take

@sixman2926

2 ай бұрын

@@mr_phantastic look at this goofy ahh

I've never had this problem. This guy also neglects to mention that these "noble causes" often used to be the perpetuation of the continued existence of a landowner/noble figure who lives more lavishly than you could ever dream to.

@YOTSUBA_desu

Ай бұрын

@@1e0isfdkorblpg No it's not. I'm not a colony insect living for a queen.

@dinoblacklane1640

Ай бұрын

@YOTSUBA_des Yes you are, that's what humans have always been. We just like to lie to ourselves and say "we are free"

@YOTSUBA_desu

Ай бұрын

@@dinoblacklane1640 Who is my queen? I will publicly denounce whichever individual you name as not a queen/king, but as an equal.

@dinoblacklane1640

Ай бұрын

@@YOTSUBA_desu Denounce all you want, your masters do not care Do you really think that the families that own the world care about what some loser on youtube says?

@NAthanM-wb8tc

15 күн бұрын

Not trying to disprove you or anything, just offering a different perspective. I feel like those who have nobody or feel they have nothing to live for feel this way, so while you may not feel it, what the man says is true in many cases. I for one (not looking for any pity) after a certain events decided to live just for the hell of it, and deeply relate to what the man is saying. I agree to an extent about what you said about "noble causes" but I feel like times were also different before... people were a lot more connected and it wasn't always a given (much like how it is nowadays in most places) that they or their loved ones would survive, thus giving them a reason. Even the pursuit of happiness was different before since there wasn't such a instant access to gratification as there is today with the internet. With these reasons, I feel like what he is saying about noble causes is true, or at the very least, I know I've felt this way for a long time.

The only reason I live is for others. Not in a negative way, but it motivates me to help, knowing I can make a difference to at least one person that needs it.

My life was already considered meaningless or evil because I'm not religious. What is it to me that some people may feel my life is meaningless because it's not "spiritually fulfilling" like this person says. At the end of the day, spirituality is about as tangible and meaningful as you feel it is. We're all gonna shit ourselves when we die no matter how much spirit or noble cause we pursue. Finding a value that transcends oneself... Where is this guy getting this all from. What manual of the universe did he stumble on and why isn't he sharing it with us if it's so true with such certainty. Why does it specifically need to transcend one's self. What if I held an ideal that I am a god. Does that transcend me? Does that make my life meaningful if I strive for all my years to be seen as a god? At the end of the day, this video, all religions, all forms of society, it's all just guesses at what is "good for us". Nobody actually knows. Anyone who acts like they do is trying to sell you something, or trying to make themselves feel better. And the second you actually put this guy's logic under any form of scrutiny it disappears into thin air just like the breath he spent saying it.

@WufflesGhosts

2 ай бұрын

Ayer fan detected. Opinion rejected.

@YOTSUBA_desu

2 ай бұрын

Good post. Mishima makes baseless assumptions that people here seen to accept unconditionally.

Out of context this seems like a very deep and insightful message. Mishima though, while a great writer, was someone conflicted with his own inadequacies, or at least a perception of inadequacies. Watching his mentor go off to war, and told that he was the future of Japan, then being denied service to Japan due to a misdiagnosed illness. Has all the makings of a man who felt like a failure after being drilled into his head all the Imperial propaganda and belief that all others were inferior. This is a guy who was made to believe that the fascist Japanese Empire was the only thing to live for and when that illusion crumbled so did his mental state.

@dualia-s74m

2 ай бұрын

atomic arms good

@mitchellm2208

2 ай бұрын

Appreciate the context. I think the principle is still pretty noble, but even noble instincts can be misdirected towards terrible ends.

@rypo59

2 ай бұрын

His immediate postwar writings are mostly introspective and psychological. His work didn't really take on a political character until 1960, fifteen years after the war. So it was not the immediate experience of the collapse of the Empire of Japan that colored his beliefs so much as his disillusionment with the postwar society, just as he implies here. As for being conflicted over his perceived inadequacies, that's true of everyone, so I fail to see how that invalidates this message in any way.

@Oscar-ds2vb

2 ай бұрын

you clearly dont know Mishima OR more likely you are a lib/leftiard that want to undermine his works.

@JiHYoon1

2 ай бұрын

Guy sounds "deep" until you realize he literally attempted an abortive coup, then gutted himself screaming "tenno heika banzai"

People have two lives. The second one begins when they realize they only have one.😂

Our lives have become so stale that we create problems under the guise of a just cause so we can feel important again. The humble are the ones that go on without a cause or calling

It's always been something that makes me cry, when I pondered on whether I'll die a regretful death over a life wasted. Ultimately, self-improvement is self-fulfillment. The many grievances we had in life, if we can diminish it bit by bit as we go on, maybe then we can leave satisfied. A noble-cause doesn't have to be something big that affected everyone, I think living true to oneself is already a noble enough cause you can do for yourself.

@scrung

Ай бұрын

Probably the best comment in a sea of whatever the opposite of wisdom is. The humble are the ones that don’t torment themselves over the lack of a grand noble calling. I wish I could be more humble rather than seeking out a thing to be recognized for. I don’t really like the reasoning in this video

This is why I always promote a cause for Glory and Virtue among Young men. Living just for yourself till the age of 90 or 100 seems hell like to me. I would rather live a short but impactful life. And before ya'll start criticizing for preaching BS, let me tell you in advance. I am already in the middle of achieving something remarkable.

@Jimmy0123459876

2 ай бұрын

Please share if you don't mind

loved it

This is what we call "foreshadowing"

Hope everyone doing good and staying safe. If you need to talk to someone or need help, there are people who care. Sending support and hearts. ❤️❤️❤️

Didn't know he was so close to modern era

@sixman2926

2 ай бұрын

yep. this interview was in 1966.

@TheRoastedMango

2 ай бұрын

@@sixman2926Where can I find it?

The Lord Buddha taught the four noble truths, and the four noble truths are the most compassionate teaching. Compassion brings equanimity and the ultimate calm. The dhamma - the teaching of the Tathāgata, the exalted one, the Lord Buddha - is worth living for, is worth sharing, and is worth dying for.

@MemekingJag

2 ай бұрын

eh, they were compassionate teachings but in the face of such a bleak reality. our goal being to abandon our worldly pursuits and attempt to attain nirvana and break out of samsara, dispersing your soul? life is painful at times, definitely, but we are offered such exquisite rewards for experiencing it unprotected. I would take the eternity of suffering if I had a chance to find true love in each of those life paths. i intend no mean will on buddhists or buddhism - i've studied and even stayed at a monastery retreat (karma kagyu) - I feel that while it has a lot to teach us, I disagree that we should accept as a noble truth that the world is irredeemably painful.

@acex222

2 ай бұрын

@@MemekingJag "painful" doesn't comprise the truth of the word dukkha. Dukkha is more than pain, and less than pain. It is the discomfort that leads man from inaction to action, the dissatisfaction felt over time with any conditioned object, the want for something lacking. The "exquisite reward" is cope because it all ends, and it always ends in more suffering - in sickness, in death, in birth to helplessness, cyclical and eternal. There are beautiful sunsets, the light will fade; gorgeous mountaintops, but the snow will melt; friends to make, who will die. You'll have enjoyed them all, and then they will be gone, and there will only be a lack of joy. Even "true love" ends in the arising of dukkha from the craving of more time together, more love shared, more love lived. You take your exquisite reward in the moment only to long for it when the moment passes, and cope by telling yourself it was all worth it: "It is better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all" as Lord Byron put it. The cope demonstrably leads to more suffering created by yourself for yourself and for others. Aryadeva put it plainly in his 400 verses (verse 37): "With the intensification of pleasure Its opposite is seen to occur. With the intensification of pain There will not likewise be its opposite." Suffering can increase without end, pleasure is always fleeting. For the theravada, to escape the cycle of suffering brings the endless pleasure of equanimity, lacking perception or non-perception of suffering. For the mahayana, the pleasure of Buddhahood awaits, a blissful existence outside samsara. The world is beautiful and there is beauty in the world, but none of it compares to a world without craving for a more beautiful world, or for the beauty to last forever. (There's also no soul, although the tathāgatagharba can sound attractively like one...) "The world is irredeemably painful" is not a noble truth: the truths are that suffering arises, it is caused by craving, suffering can cease, and that the dhamma is the path to the cessation of craving and suffering.

@quanganhdobui1432

2 ай бұрын

I think this is very much lacking as the ultimate answer to everything that we as humans want. However, I would like to ask you some basic questions because I'm very lazy when it comes to researching about Buddha: - Can we end all suffering on this Earth? - Are cravings good or bad? - And when is suffering good? - What do you think about the pursuit of science and the truth behind the universe?

@acex222

2 ай бұрын

@@quanganhdobui1432 1. Not unless every sentient being never gets ill and never dies unenlightened. Suffering ("dukkha", better translated as "discomfort in any sense" or "discontent") is inherent to life. 2. Cravings aren't good or bad, but craving is the cause of all suffering. (tanha) 3. Why would suffering be good? You might say "touching a hot stove to learn your lesson", but you'd be better off not touching a hot stove and knowing the lesson. 4. Keep it up!

@quanganhdobui1432

2 ай бұрын

@@acex222 Thanks for the answers, but I have a couple of things to say though: 1. So if every sentient beings are enlightened and the science is good enough (perfect even) to cure all diseases and chaos, a utopia is possible? 2. Can cravings lead to good? 3. But are lessons possible without suffering though? For me, there has to be chaos for it to push people to discover order.

Nowadays, it is impossible to even think about the fundamentals of life in this way anymore.

The truth is always a noble cause. Simply fight for the truth even if you don’t like the truth.

Surely protecting the environment or helping homeless people are noble causes, no?

I have always passionately hated John Lennon's "Imagine", even before I understood why. And this is it. Louis Armstrong's "What a Wonderful World" was a far better hymn for world peace.

Better than dying for a noble cause, it is living for a noble cause.

KZread sometimes recommends you gold

For those who don't know, this is Yukio Mishima, one of the more colorful characters of postwar Japan. He was a famous writer, still considered one of the best and most important japanese writers to this day. He was also a strict nationalist and imperialist (and probably a closeted homosexual), and thought that Japan should return to being ruled by the emperor. He and several of his followers infiltrated a military camp, where he stood on the roof and held a passionate speech to the soldiers about how Japan had lost its way and needed to return to the old ways. He hoped this would inspire the soldiers to start a revolution. Instead, they only laughed. So, he went inside and commited Seppuku.

@maxn.7234

2 ай бұрын

Anyone curious with his work, I recommend "Spring Snow", "Runaway Horses", "The Temple of Dawn", and the "Decay of the Angel". It's a fantastic tetralogy which chronicles the decline of Japanese culture. Beautifully written books that will break your heart, even if you're not Japanese.

@johnran6015

2 ай бұрын

@@maxn.7234 Even in English translation some of the most evocative of baroque mental imagery I've ever experienced in reading anything. Movies and popular entertainment will never reach these certain levels and should be discarded as the standard, thankfully it seems they are with their downfall in importance with how things are going. Hate that I even lived far back enough to acknowledge that honestly.

@elijahtate2370

2 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t consider him closeted at all; Confessions of a Mask is still one of his biggest works

@yetanotherrandomyoutubecha4382

2 ай бұрын

@@elijahtate2370 Right, but he was also married to a woman and had children with her. I think it's something he struggled with his entire life.

☦️

Purpose comes from within you, your heart will lead the way through its passion to express itself....but then there are tons and tons and tons of things today to deter and distract you from your hearts desires.

Interesting how he flips victir frankyl's work, from a reason to live to a reason to die for.

Hedonism: Am I a joke to you?

@jaybuck9124

Ай бұрын

本物の快楽主義者は他人を愛して他人に与え始めるだろう。そっちの方が幸せだからだ。笑

Stay away from negative people and don't let them try to control your actions, and that includes family and peers. Are they truly trying to support you and your cause? Actions speak louder than words

@TealBeal11

Ай бұрын

This is an interview with Mishima. As far as negative people go, he is definitely up there

Mishima probably never imagined that decades later these interviews would be translated and seen around the world. I, too, had thought that Yukio Mishima's presence would remain confined to Japan. It is a world apart.

Maybe we've gotten too safe. We don't fear natural predators anymore because we've tamed and caged even the strongest of animals, we've developed cures for so many previously fatal illnesses, we can predict natural disasters and take shelters to protect ourselves from them as necessary, and we've even moved past the age of daily wars between human nations - not to say that wars don't happen today, but they're way rarer than they used to be in previous eras. To feel like we're truly alive, we must also always be close to death. These two concepts are two sides of the same coin, so we can't have one without the other. Maybe that's why we don't really feel alive anymore - it's because we have nothing to fear, and we know about that very well. All we need to do is climb the corporate ladder, go to work and earn our wages, pay for taxes and insurance costs and bills and groceries, settle down and send our children to school. All the while entertaining ourselves and distracting ourselves away from the general feeling of meaninglessness with social media and the Internet. Maybe the fact that humanity has become so globalized is our downfall. In the early days, people lived in small groups like tribes. Everyone had a purpose in those small groups: the elders acted as advisors, the men hunted and fought and protected, the women gathered and nursed and cared for the children, and the children carried the burden of being the next generation. But now, with social media and globalization, our small tribes have turned into giant international groups - competition is much higher from a social aspect when compared to the tribal life, so the average person must work that much harder to get the world to notice them. We don't have a sense of purpose anymore. Everyone's expendable, the same. Our increasing loss of faith maybe has something to do with it as well. It doesn't necessarily have to be religion, but without something to believe in - we loss any sense of meaning and purpose for existing. To distract ourselves from this nihilism - we partake in hedonism: drinking, smoking, engaging in casual sex just to feel something, following petty celebrity drama and scrolling mindlessly through the Internet, posting pics of ourselves on social media to get likes from total strangers just so that we can feel noticed. And maybe this nihilistic, beliefless modern age can't be changed by us. Maybe it's just a natural transitionary period in our species - where we learn to shed outdated beliefs like religion and move onto the futuristic times of technology and digital supremacy. One thing's for sure: Gen Z and Alpha won't be changing these times, but maybe it'll be Gen Beta, or maybe even the one after that. I don't necessarily support communism, but it's clear that the meaninglessness that we suffer from today is caused by the consequences of late-stage capitalism. Money means everything these days. But, despite knowing all this, I'm not able to change the great tides of society, and neither can most other normal people. Maybe the millionaires and billionaires could - but even they are expendable and part of the greater system. Well, besides that, there's also probably the fact that they're all selfish greedy bastards looking out only for themselves - but maybe that's not a trait limited to just them. Everyone is selfish, after all.

Die for love like Jesus the way, truth, light.

@MyDemon32

2 ай бұрын

That too is meaningless cause you won't get that love back.

@ultimatebonus8072

2 ай бұрын

Love is not a transaction, law is. The Gospel is rich in this message. Love triumphing over law enabled by self sacrifice of the indebted. Rest assured that the gift of Gods love is free. Try to earn it and you will fail. Once saved by belief one is given a second nature born of God who is the one who lives as Christ in love and will never die and who is in contention with the old man who is born of flesh and cannot but sin unable to overcome the law.

@RobertMalachowski

2 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@ultimatebonus8072But that would be a long term message, the matter is earthly.

Bars 👏

thank you so much

This man committed seppuku after failing to overthrow the emperor and is one of my favorite authors when I was a young adult.

For a moment, I thought I was on the wrong side of KZread.

0:40 democracy has indeed become the ideal in itself, which is to say it has none, but it used to be a means to enthrone higher ideals. Fall of the republic and all that.

Sometimes, we must learn instead to shart harder and more powerfully.

"I came that they may have life and have it abundantly."

@Juliana-rw6pt

Ай бұрын

Amen

We’ve also “beaten the game” of life/history in that there are no more frontiers easily accessible to a lot of people to drive technological/civilizational advancement, and a machine or app can do everything for us, so we feel like there’s nothing we can do anymore to contribute

@jamesreed2888

2 ай бұрын

Crossing the Atlantic was not easily accessible to a lot of people, going to the moon felt like an impossibility for the longest time. I think it's easy to look back and see how much people have done and think "oh of course they did that, everyone knows it's possible". But it didn't seem that way back then. I agree that most people today think we have beaten the game, but I don't think we actually have.

@michaelsmith953

2 ай бұрын

I think this is actually because corporations have made everything illegal...everything these days is "proprietary" or you must work here to use it. Back in the day if I had an idea for making my accounting book better I could just do it and it could spread through the country, nowadays I'd have to reach out about the bug to quickbooks, then have 100 other people agree with me online for them to look at it and say maybe we will fix that bug you all complain about...then 2 years later maybe they make the tiny change. We just can't work together because of all the barriers designed to keep money at the top. :/

@chavzone

2 ай бұрын

@@michaelsmith953 Exactly this, there was a time where competition was great for innovation, but now it's just meaningless intellectual property consolidation with the top few conglomerates stifling new ideas to disempower competitors. Normally regulators would step in with anti-trust laws but we all know how well-oiled the corrupt public-private revolving door is these days :/

@bragiodinsen4604

2 ай бұрын

corporations and governments artificially create a scarcity of labor. ever wonder how in a world of plenty engineers and scientists are mostly unemployed?

@alexjeffrey3981

2 ай бұрын

like 1/2 of the world's population still suffers from extreme deprivation. There's a cause for us right there. Why does ever-increasing convenience for those of us lucky enough to be relatively well-off have to be the goal? there's nothing noble about decadence if it's withheld for the minority.

I always wondered what motivates people to go and serve in army. This is. But they dont know. Lol. Thank you

@RobertMalachowski

2 ай бұрын

Well, a lot of my peers say their “why” is money, education, and uninspiring benefits like that. I feel I’m the only one who says I always wanted to be up there, so it’s always a bit disconcerting for me.

beautiful wisdom 🙂

He’s explaining spiritual needs, something we forget about in pursuit of physical needs.

As long as people exist, a noble cause exists

@Vingul

2 ай бұрын

Well -- as long as *my* people exists ;)

He was most likely cluster b if we’d speculate him now. Charismatic, charming, intelligent, fun, dramatic, smart but super insecure and unstable. Don’t get me wrong I love his writing

@harryhein3991

2 ай бұрын

i can fix him

Even when we had reasons to die for something, it was to serve politicians. It's hard to say that you died for your country when people are filling their pockets with the contract money from weapons sales.

...there comes a time, soldier...when the women cease to sparkle, when the gold loses its luster, when the world becomes a prison...and all that is left is a father's love for his children...those are the only causes worth left fightin for...and dyin for...gladly...VIVA LA FAMILIA!!!...

Shocks me how people who are so filled with self loathing speak with such authority on the meaning of life. If you dislike yourself so much that you cannot stand to live for yourself, then call it what it is. Trying to make it some noble thing that you lack enough self esteem to live for yourself is what I dislike.

@Monk_Chud

2 ай бұрын

Hes right, how do you 'live for yourself' anyway? People generally live for their families and god

@lombardi4

2 ай бұрын

he said it here that you cannot live for yourself, you might have missed the point

@scrung

Ай бұрын

@@lombardi4you can live for yourself. a noble cause is ultimately self-fulfillment depending on how you look at it, that’s why the original poster is rejecting this line of reasoning. taking care of yourself is the first step before you can take care of others

@scrung

Ай бұрын

@@1e0isfdkorblpg oh, that's interesting. i suppose some people have that thing they love to immerse themselves in, like a talent/skill and live for that, and some people need to find purpose elsewhere. monks of many faiths preach humility as the common denominator to happiness as well i think

"...anyway, make sure you aim at my fucking neck Morita"

GIVING > GETTING

This is why God's purpose for us is to serve others.

@Juliana-rw6pt

Ай бұрын

thank you

Starting a family, pursuing a career that you are most passionate about, honing a particular skill and try to become good at it, living a life in harmony with nature, training your body physically get stronger and healthier, have faith or a belief in something becoming strong mentally and spiritually I think those are pretty good reason for a noble cause to live for..

@sixman2926

2 ай бұрын

they are great reasons for a noble cause to live for. ur right. i resonate more with what he said about we soon tire living only for ourselves. im sure you understand considering your musashi pfp :)

@mad_scientist5597

2 ай бұрын

I personally see no "noble cause" or as I understand it "greater cause" in this. Getting good at something and optimizing your body and life are mostly ways to have a rich life from your own perspective; the guy in the video likely believes that's not enough, and I agree. A family extends yourself to two or three or ten other selves but not to a greater collective. Even a religious or spiritual belief might not be enough. I think what a real noble cause is is something almost everyone in a society would agree to be their noble cause to live for. It's good to have a rich personal life and a family, but I think that has a place in conjunction with a noble cause, not instead of. You can get a rich personal and family life but I see no noble cause in democratic developed countries. I believe one needs both.

@Tattlebot

2 ай бұрын

@@mad_scientist5597 Humans are meant to experience things within a group context. Experience in a solitary context is closed. There is a particular problem for juveniles, whose only interaction with adults is an unequal, coercive relationship, typical of teachers and parents. Children are crying out for interaction with adults and older teens on an equal relationship basis. There is a huge need in their hearts for cross-generation experience. This ranges from practical experience like teaching them skills like machining, to erotic encounters. It's no wonder manual work is shunned and the birth rate is so low.

@mad_scientist5597

2 ай бұрын

@@Tattlebot That's a very interesting idea to me cause I'm 21 years old and I've never thought of this. A very important thing to understand is that most people of my generation have an understanding of the online space that makes their parents look like cavemen in comparison. And yet this online space is a critical part of our lives, both pratically and socially. Our parents don't have a chance to understand our lives, so they can either try to intervene somehow as parents and quite likely do more harm than good because they're effectively shooting in the dark, or they can just not intervene at all, leading to all sorts of problems in children and youth all the same. I also think there is a problem with a lot of young people nowadays that they don't even get enough interaction with their peers, let alone other age groups. That is my case and so I can't imagine what exactly does it even mean to have relationships with other generations. My family surely views me more as a child rather than an equal adult (understandable given that I'm not working yet) and there are no other adults I interact with outside of institutions with rules like schools. I feel a similar way about the nobel cause thing as well actually. How could I imagine what could a noble cause possible feel like when I don't even know what personal happiness and a fulfilling life is? I'm not typing this to whine. The amount of people online who can relate to this is staggering. I believe there is a systematic issue in the society machine that is making it produce damaged people like me at an alarming rate. It seems to be an extension of what the guy in the video talked about really. There has never been so much as a sliver of a noble cause in our lives and even the personal life I brought up before is being eroded.

@Tattlebot

2 ай бұрын

@@mad_scientist5597 You were born into the most unhappy and unstable period in history. I expect a large portion of current students will be psychological casualties. Since the previous generation, the web has basically gotten simpler and the devices such as phones are far more restricted. In 2005 you might overhear teen girls talking about CSS to customize their myspace page. Although mobile devices have an extreme focus on content consumption, your parents grew up in a fairly similar tech environment. It's not like they had to manually install drivers and set IRQs for their sound card in DOS. Each generation was incompetent with modern computer technology. Most home computers were bought to pirate music. The best way forward I can think of is to follow Darcia Narvaez's "Evolved Nest" for optimal human development. Otherwise teens will flock to neoreaction, and I won't blame them.

Go with Christ, my friends.

@whoareyoutoaccuseme6588

2 ай бұрын

I'd rather fill my head with other things than fairy tales.

@AtomicRaven-zx2oj

2 ай бұрын

@@whoareyoutoaccuseme6588 God be with you, friend

@johnran6015

2 ай бұрын

You can say that about anything, like Dirt Clump is lord and will admire your virtues with reward or whatever. You're still going to die and pass into unending unconsciousness and Dirt Clump isn't going to make that not happen.

Most people end up living for their kids and/or for posterity in general.

Standing alone in the dark, eventually everything fades out and disappears...