If they keep this up, Intel's lake is going to start drying up.

@dobber43

4 жыл бұрын

I both hate and love you for that

@haydenw8691

4 жыл бұрын

Won't it just overheat to the point it evaporates, then dries up?

@Screamintatatots

4 жыл бұрын

Hayden Wallis Intel will fix the high heat output on their processors with 14nm++++++++++ architecture

@jeyendeoso

4 жыл бұрын

No drying up on the Panic lake. that one is overflowing.

@dennemann8592

4 жыл бұрын

It's going to dry up soon. The CPU transistors are getting so small that they are pushing quantum physics limits. There is still some room for them to get smaller still, but not by a lot. Hopefully the alternatives are ready by then

"AMD is the clear winner of 2019" *still builds Intel system* "There's a reduction in boost clock on the 10nm" for Intel *still builds Intel system* Because of AMD "we as consumers win" *still builds Intel system* "We're rooting for you, AMD" *still builds Intel system* Feel like I'm getting some mixed messages here

@gamesandsoftwares1441

4 жыл бұрын

Well said

@LilPistacho

4 жыл бұрын

Lol true, but you have to see it for what he's using it for. Pure gaming amd still isn't as good. I how ever don't need op gaming cpu so i went ryzen :). He said in the video he's doing a over the top build just for gaming.

@spoopyangie

4 жыл бұрын

Intel: *shoves bunch of green ones in Jay's mouth* So!... about your Skunkworks... our 18 core is pretty lit ya know c: Jay: *wiggles tail in happiness*

@chaddavies1032

4 жыл бұрын

Its a gaming system intel still very marginally is better in games its just a stupid price for that jay already has the proccesor. He knows they stupid to buy but they still have a better performance. The price doesnt affect jay🤷🏻‍♂️

@chaddavies1032

4 жыл бұрын

@@spoopyangie dude intel may be stupid to buy but they still give better gaming performance marginally and the price doesnt affect jay cause hes already got one so🤷🏻‍♂️

dude, digg a little in Intel history, they've pulled every dirty trick in book, calling them the good guys hertz me in my processor

@Warptenlololol

4 жыл бұрын

Wait, shady big ass corporation have blood on their hands? Oh no, this is why capitalism failed, time to go full ermit inawood : (

@kalandarkclaw8892

3 жыл бұрын

And no one cares.

@kalandarkclaw8892

3 жыл бұрын

@WanderAbroad source?

@DKTAz00

3 жыл бұрын

@@kalandarkclaw8892 what are you doing here a year late caring then?

"Wait and see" After 10 years of dual core i have waited enough

@sigma2074

4 жыл бұрын

You could always buy a used pre built. I just bought an i5-4590 system for $125. Upgraded the RAM to 16GB for $40, and look for a decently priced 1060 or 1070 and it will be able to do anything a $1000 system for less than $400. No point in holding onto a slow computer.

@illogical1421

4 жыл бұрын

Same 10 years with the E2200.

@vyor8837

4 жыл бұрын

Zen2~

@sigma2074

4 жыл бұрын

@Calamity Which is what most people are looking to do. There wont be a game the computer wont be able to play for at least the next few years. The 4590 PC is for a friend. I personally have a 9700k and a 2080ti for my 1440p 144hz monitor. I'm aware the cheap build cant handle that, but that's not what its meant for.

@zoommair

4 жыл бұрын

Bro, upgrade yourself to a Core 2 Duo Quad!

The poor I9 is just sittin in the back like "uh, guys?!"

@nemtudom5074

4 жыл бұрын

It was a bastard child that should have never been born. As much i LOVE telling people not to assign agency to massive giants like AMD or NVidia, or intel..... I have to say, fuck intel, for their fucking cancerous SKU's. Seriously! FUCK locking down overclocking, FUCK, the USELESS I9 category, just so they can charge more money, FUCK, the fucking fucked up skews that are coming with ice and comet lake... FYI tho: AMD would be doing the same if the roles were reversed. As i said, these giant corporations dont give a FUCK about you people, they want to make money. Top dog will always be scum, underdog will always be fan favourite. Its not an intel or amd thing.... They are companies, in a reversed scenario, the top dog and underdog would still be acting the same.

@spencerosgood2399

4 жыл бұрын

@@nemtudom5074 I have nothing to add to this conversation and I feel you are mostly right. I just wanted to pop in and say that you meant to say SKUs not skews

@mikem9536

4 жыл бұрын

@@spencerosgood2399 Stews

@IND4GR0V3

4 жыл бұрын

way to sell the same chip for 4 or 5 generations i stopped paying attention tbh 6700k st 4.8ghz going strong as fuck still

@TechWithSean

4 жыл бұрын

It’s still faster for gaming than any Ryzen, even before you overclock it 🤷‍♂️

I avoid all of these tough decisions by being too poor to upgrade from my i5-3570k

@Nillaferilla

4 жыл бұрын

You should be alright for a little bit yet.

@johannesb7013

4 жыл бұрын

Atleast you have a „k“. Sitting here with a i5 4570

@monni429

4 жыл бұрын

i have a i5 3470k but ill get a ryzen 5 2600x

@filipnine

4 жыл бұрын

Jonny B i got a 4460, noticed this past year my pc is def slowing lol

@SpeedRebirth

4 жыл бұрын

Maby you guys have now learned that getting a cheap cpu is not worth it in the long run... ;) Shold NEVER buy cpus without SMT/HT!

"You just pulled a 2013 AMD Marketing Move"... murdered by words.

Bruh, buying intel or AMD is a political act in 2019.

@Theo_Caro

4 жыл бұрын

buying anything is a political act

@Ryan-sw4xy

4 жыл бұрын

How? Seems like it's just a consumer act. The 9900k isnt running for office as far as I know. Could be wrong.

@Warptenlololol

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ryan-sw4xy Exactly, first you have a budget, then you have a targeted use, or vice versa, not hard to grasp. As far as i know, Intel, AMD, Nvidia, Samsung, Micron, etc... are big arse corporation that are shady at best, they aren't there to help people to a brighter future ffs.

@Ryan-sw4xy

4 жыл бұрын

@@Warptenlololol so I generally buy Intel products. Is that why Trump was elected? If so, I'll keep buying Intel products through 2020...

@Warptenlololol

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ryan-sw4xy Casual, through 2200 at least or you're an AMD shill >:(

I agree Jay we need a GPU war now, hopefully big navi and the new intel GPU's will shake it up.

@xnonsuchx

4 жыл бұрын

Intel GPUs... BWAHAHAHAHAHA ;-)

@DarkOracleOfDeath

4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say "will" as we don't have much official information, but rather might... I too hope they will though.

@atodaso1668

4 жыл бұрын

@Conor ok bud, go eat your crayons.

@atodaso1668

4 жыл бұрын

@@DarkOracleOfDeath so they hired a bunch of guys to hang out and get drunk?

@Tallnerdyguy

4 жыл бұрын

@Conor remotely relevant? Lulz. Nope, they don't have a $1200+ card that noone would buy.....so yes, at the $1200+ mark they aren't relevant.

I bit the bullet and went AMD last week and got a 3700x. I was an Intel only customer for over 30 years but they have become too expensive.

@MyRuger

4 жыл бұрын

B E 30 years?

@notaweeb4267

4 жыл бұрын

B E lol boomer

@BSKTCreation

4 жыл бұрын

@@MyRuger yeah the first pc I bought myself was a was a 33 mhz 486 for $4,500 in 1990! But my family also had a 286 and 386 in the 80s so I kind of count those as well.

@BSKTCreation

4 жыл бұрын

@Conor to a degree yes. Having said this I spent the 1990's chasing that ultimate pc rig but all I got was a mediocre machine after 6 month of use for a massive expense (I remember the 27% credit card interest rates back then OUCH!). I now go for mid range bang for buck builds that can last me 4-5 years comfortably. :)

@Your_username_

4 жыл бұрын

B E Yes it was golden age for computer manufacturers. They sold ”future proof” machines that were outdated and underpowered after 2 years because transistor count and clock speeds have been doubled by then.

AMD played the reverse card on Intel lol

@JohnLGalt_1

4 жыл бұрын

So many ppl ain't gonna get that - but I do!

@JohnLGalt_1

4 жыл бұрын

@Batzu-chu Blue Never said there was, man. Read my post again.

@valenciodiaz2644

4 жыл бұрын

@Batzu-chu Blue how many years did that i5 of yours served you?

@ImpiantoFacile

4 жыл бұрын

@Batzu-chu Blue You mean it's pretty.... EPYC?

@dra6o0n

4 жыл бұрын

Gee, it's like Intel often can't be original at anything... Oh wait. They are 'operating on Intel'.

Consumers need top-end competition for nvidia so badly

@DrSmugface

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe intel next year ...I'm maybe a bit a amd fanboy but even I know that AmD is just not as "good" in high end as intel in cpu or Nvidia in GpU but that doesn't matter because I don't need no high end or could afford it

@SianaGearz

4 жыл бұрын

The problem with everyone but NVidia is that you can expect a good powerful competitor to take 10 years to reach NVidia's driver quality in overhead and broad software compatibility. Look, AMD has been chipping away at it for 20 years and they're still not quite there yet. Then again maybe Vulkan will be our Lord and Saviour, DirectX platform isn't terribly hard to implement as apparently even Intel with its two left hands is kinda managing to do that, and OpenGL will be eventually just a high-quality collaboratively developed layer over Vulkan that everyone can reuse, probably from the MESA team, propped up by Intel, AMD, ARM, Qualcomm and Broadcom and whomever else. But this does sound like a dream more than a realistic assessment.

@danielporter4194

4 жыл бұрын

I think amd mid range cards are great. That's what most of the market probably is. So I think Nividia is gonna take a hit.

@iceclawz4313

3 жыл бұрын

@@DrSmugface AMD passed intel on cpus and trades blows with nvidia. this didnt age very well hehe

C'mon jay, Skunkworks was about experimental over the top. Just get a Rome based EPYC2 for it

@MrPruske

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, but maybe the accessable threadripper instead

@CodyMoore1987

4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@JWeel89

4 жыл бұрын

How would a server chip make sense for his purposes? I rather see him use a TR3 chip.

@thorodin3631

4 жыл бұрын

@@JWeel89 because for a long time people had to buy Intel server cpus to get better performance. Xeon processors were far better than desktop. So getting an epyc CPU wouldn't be much different than what people did in the past

@KadiusFTW

4 жыл бұрын

Ant Epic cpus are OCable, just with an external device

Next 14mm Intel refresh name, Drowning Lake!

@evigklytteren

4 жыл бұрын

Crystal Lake (Friday tur 13th)?

@petergriffin-cq5kw

4 жыл бұрын

Well... considering this: www.extremetech.com/computing/288808-intel-launches-new-xeons-with-up-to-56-cores-400w-tdp I'd say you'll need a lake to cool it down for sure. New Intel architecture code name "Tidal Wave" coming soon.

@claydog6422

4 жыл бұрын

Drowning AMD. Haha 😂

@stevenwest1494

4 жыл бұрын

Urine lake would be more appropriate.

@mettalforever

4 жыл бұрын

That souns metal XD

USB Forum: Makes naming scheme for new specs confusing. Intel: Hold my beer.

@Dogsparkster

4 жыл бұрын

its starting to get hard to follow intel lol

@gelmann2

4 жыл бұрын

Intel is drunk on too much Beer!

@user-cr3pj2nr4e

4 жыл бұрын

Nweedia's 1656650 super dooper ti ass-fast cards

@SaltwaterC

4 жыл бұрын

Well, Intel is a founder and member of USB-IF.

Im happy with the CPU landscape right now, i want a GPU war that reaches up to the high end!

@NatrajChaturvedi

4 жыл бұрын

I want a GPU war at the low or mid-low end. Its so ridiculous for owners of 1060/rx580/rx570 card owners. Even after 2 or 3 years, there are no decent upgrade options for the same price. (yes the 5700/5700xt/2060s are not really mid-tier cards because of the price!!) Either you buy a 1660/1660ti which is more of a sidegrade or low priced Vega if you can get one where you live but lets face it, they are too hot and too loud!!

@techbuildspcs

4 жыл бұрын

@@NatrajChaturvedi they are loud and hot if you buy a reference model. Or a gigabyte model which is ass

@NatrajChaturvedi

4 жыл бұрын

@Ransom Messenger nope $400 is not mid tier and xx60 tier cards costing $350+ is something I can not abide. Screw Nvidia for raising prices of GPUs and AMD for following suite.

@evan6711

4 жыл бұрын

@@NatrajChaturvedi If the Vega acoustics and thermals worry you so much you can just buy an aftermarket cooler. Assuming you buy a pre-owned Vega card, which I've seen for as low as 150 USD you'll be spending $200-$300.

@Duke_of_Lorraine

4 жыл бұрын

If rumours about what consoles will have under the hood are true, I'd bet on next year's GPUs to be a big blow. Including raytracing for AMD (right now Nvidia has a monopoly on it so RTX cards are absurdly expensive).

Jay this is totally off topic but I work for an aerospace company as an RF Engineer, and each lab bench has a liquid nitrogen feed coming from a 5-story tall tank that gets refilled every few days by truck. Needless to say almost daily I think about what you and kingpin could do with that kind of LN2 hookup 🤣

@VtwinGamingKimico52

4 жыл бұрын

thats pretty dope

@WahlVids

4 жыл бұрын

Nice, wish I had that kind of cooling when I was on a sub. I was a RF technician/consultant. Seawater cooled workstations at high flow rate seemed to do the trick. Weird stuff 🤘

@John-nd7il

4 жыл бұрын

sabretechv2 go ahead. Rub it in

@kevinburns8473

4 жыл бұрын

Man... it'd be pretty freaking nice to see what you could pump into a PC from a standing case like that.. Though, I suppose that's the entire basis behind quantum computing's cooling system.

@rangerst_870

4 жыл бұрын

John Trageser he is!! LOL

I see you got a dislike. Intel does watch you.

@rangerst_870

4 жыл бұрын

Suspicious Crow I see 197/0

@mrdragonzz8270

4 жыл бұрын

patty_12 that doesn’t mean it’s the best tho, it doesn’t run as efficiently and effectively as the Ryzen 9 3950x also it’s more powerful

@Blessedup69

4 жыл бұрын

Mr.Intel

The cuts are the best part of the videos. The information runs a very close second place though. Great presentation as always.

Really Appreciate what your doing out here Jay, Thanks for the info!

Intel is honestly that try hard in your cod lobby right now.

@cardbored_

4 жыл бұрын

So... beating everyone in sight and getting called a hacker? 😅😂

@Teh_Monk

4 жыл бұрын

Casey Lane Leave us CoD try-hards alone. 😜

@watersnortmoment3734

4 жыл бұрын

@@cardbored_ No, doing the exact opposite.

@scythelord

4 жыл бұрын

@@watersnortmoment3734 except they're not. This is more like one single match going to the worse player (AMD) when the pro player was off their game.

@adamhinds8352

4 жыл бұрын

Intel is Warden AMD is Jager

Why the plethora of SKUs? "In confusion there is profit." Lt. Nicholas Holden, Operation Petticoat (1959)

@Marin3r101

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a rule of acquisition from Ferenganar

@Skyline_NTR

4 жыл бұрын

Ahh, a man of culture who watched that submarine movie as well

@staticdice5958

4 жыл бұрын

"chaos is a ladder"

Jay always has the best ads. I literally don't even try to avoid them, they're so short and informative with good music. The OPPOSITE of all other ads pretty much.

I have drowned in so many"Lakes", so now that I am "dead" I am unable to buy an Intel CPU.

@miEye1

4 жыл бұрын

Amen!!!

@Blessedup69

4 жыл бұрын

Ryzen will love you

@GregFliesVR

3 жыл бұрын

Its December 2020...you got you're wish.

Everytime newer CPU's are coming out... and i also hear of price cuts of older gen ones.. i get excited. I still rock a good old i5 2500k.

@omfgpowned

4 жыл бұрын

I just replaced my 2500k. Man what a processor that was... lasted me like 7 to 8 years with it's ridiculous overclocking capacity.

@noelrojas2142

4 жыл бұрын

i had an i7 3770k and i bought it this year ($75 second hand and upgraded from the i5 3570) before my cousin loved my setup and traded his acer nitro 5 2019 gaming laptop for my setup and since i travel a lot i saw it as a win

@karlisk4

4 жыл бұрын

Still rocking 2500k for a few months until I get amd 3600 in a few months

@4Leka

4 жыл бұрын

@@omfgpowned I reckon it would still be a decent gaming cpu for at least another year or two. The i5-750 lasted me 9 years (until 2019) because it OC'd over 1.2 GHz above stock. And that was in everyday use on air cooling. Although one reason I didn't upgrade sooner (and switched to AMD when I did) was because Intel has been changing sockets every generation since. If I could have dropped a newer processor into the same LGA1156 socket, Intel would have gotten more money from me. Now they got zero.

@mdd1963

4 жыл бұрын

3 more gens and you can upgrade to a 2600K for about $6 :) (I just sold a Dell Inspiron with an i3-2120 with Linux Mint 19 on it....$65!)

Awww..I wanted the Death Metal behind Jay's voice xD

@Arkayaplays

4 жыл бұрын

yeah just put nothing else matters because of i9 xd

@vicmillan522

4 жыл бұрын

same

@Mc-Derpulous

4 жыл бұрын

Nothing else matters as well as the song played, are far from "death metal"

@jooplin

4 жыл бұрын

@@Arkayaplays I'm triggered

@ulvitron

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mc-Derpulous what song was that? Korn?

this is awesome, was planning on buying my parts in November

Woah 😍 Love that lighting. Never realized that jay had such blue eyes xD

I don't think you will see Intel's new enthusiast X599 and desktop Z490 chipsets for at least another year. AMD wins this round and my cash.

@turkepic3637

4 жыл бұрын

AMD should release x599 and Intel x499.

@dieseldiesel9292

4 жыл бұрын

oof

@SoulTouchMusic93

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I wait for the next amd platform. I'll give it 6-12 months for the shake down and pull the trigger on it.

@shinysvensson7302

4 жыл бұрын

waiting for 3950x so i may as well wait for October to see how the 3950x lays out as well as intel

@olympic-ass-eater

4 жыл бұрын

And i oof

Get the 3950x jay cmon now

@lamort223able

4 жыл бұрын

@@Evtrex13 no.

@nateg452

4 жыл бұрын

@@Evtrex13 that is so false it's ridiculous.

@tylerblanco5083

4 жыл бұрын

You don't "have" to go with Intel for a gaming rig, but the entire build is about being overly robust and maximizing gaming performance, and Intel still wins that race, albeit marginally, as compared to the past. I say this as someone who suffered through Bulldozer, blindly adopted and enjoyed the 1700x and recently upgraded to the 3700x, and I'm very happy with it. I love AMD, and they crush Intel on cost:performance, especially multicore, but they are still slightly behind in gaming FPS, but that's fine, because the overall value is still better, for anyone who does anything other than "just gaming."

@jeeBisOkay

4 жыл бұрын

Just put the 3175X in skunkworks instead lol

@bepbep7418

4 жыл бұрын

@CastAway_Dave "core speed is more important to me then core count" -JayzTwoCents 2019 he doesn't care if its Intel or AMD, he just wants THE FASTEST core speed he can get.

Got a 3800x arriving tomorrow to go into my X570 taichi motherboard that I got earlier today!

@rhinavauhtgaming

4 жыл бұрын

duragamer132 I got my 3700x today god damn I finally get 60fps streams

Love the “talking head” videos! Any chance of a weekly podcast? Maybe a revival of TechTalk in podcast form?

Video should have been labeled “The roasting of Intel CPU’s”

@shelbysteiner

4 жыл бұрын

Judging by how hot they run, Intel CPUs roast themselves.

@champnotchicken4318

4 жыл бұрын

Shelby Steiner 😱😱😱😱😱😱

@dunkmaster1564

4 жыл бұрын

@@shelbysteiner oof

@Anyue

4 жыл бұрын

Ooof

@Herbertti3

4 жыл бұрын

Intel cpu's roast themselves though.

I love this type of video, please do more.

Props to Phil with the editing and dealing with Jay lol. Kidding on the last part

7:00 “Congrats Intel, you just pulled a 2013 AMD marketing move” *Intel has left the chatroom*

Amd with ryzen 3rd gen and Rome came out swinging for the fences and hitting home runs

AMD is still better because of Price for Performance

@gardriel8208

4 жыл бұрын

Many people Just dont care about price. Many Tech tubers Said a year ago, omg i9 costs 500$, thats half a PC. And now where AMD launches Ryzen 3 they all go for a 3900x / 3950x which costs 600$+.

@kingwarking1295

4 жыл бұрын

@@gardriel8208 3900x is only $500 retail

@alexmarin7897

4 жыл бұрын

Intel is marketing 1.74x-2.09x increase in performance per dollar for the Cascade lake X Vs Skylake X. This is how I believe they will do it: (i) increase of stock frequencies by around 10%. For example, compared to the Skylake X 7900X that has an all-core turbo boost of 4GHz, the Cascade Lake X 10900X will be have an all-core turbo of 4.4GHz. Similarly, they will increase the single-core turbo 2.0 from 4.3GHz to 4.7GHz and the single-core turbo 3.0 from 4.5GHz to 5GHz. (ii) increase in IPC by 3-5% by reducing the latency of the mesh topology (and bringing it closer to the levels of ring bus) (iii) increase in IPC by 3-5% by increasing the L3 cache while reducing the latency of accessing it. Remember that Intel already increased the L3 cache for the Skylake X Refresh chips by switching from the LLC chip to the HCC chip and by allowing access to the cache of some of the disabled cores. The 10 core 7900X had 13.75MB L3 cache while the 9900X had 19.25MB. However, there was a latency penalty for accessing that extra cache resulting to almost zero increase in performance. It is very possible that after a year Intel has found a way to access that extra cache with reduced latency thereby increasing performance. (iv) so with the above Intel could have 1.17x-1.21x performance increase. The rest of the performance per dollar (PPD) increase will come from price reductions. To achieve a PPD increase of 1.74 they will need to drop the prices by 30-33% while to achieve a PPD increase of 2.09 they will need to drop the prices by 42-44%. (v) so the 10 core part will be around $555-$575 in the best case and $663-$692 in the worst case. My personal guess would be $589. For the 18core part my guess is that it will drop at least down to $1399 but Intel might surprise us and drop it all the way down to $1199.

@gardriel8208

4 жыл бұрын

@@kingwarking1295 Retail maybe, but Look at the prices in the streets. Its just Not available and is being Sold for 600+

@jamesunknown6016

4 жыл бұрын

@@gardriel8208 AMD is still better

I know your set isnt fully set up in the new workspace but i have to say, the blue lighting and the background looking busy, really works man.

AMD and Popeyes chicken sandwich are the big winners of 2019.

@InnovativeNationOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

ya and neither have their desired products in stock

@bernhardtsen74

4 жыл бұрын

@@InnovativeNationOfficial getting Threadripper 1900x for about 200 dollars here in denmark!was about to order I7 kaby lake that has 2 cores less and costs about 80-90 dollars more!going to build a pc that can produce nice 4K videos next year!using old I7 920 that is a bit slow these days!!!

I think he is right about the "new nodes doesn't reach 5ghz" part.

Brushing on those Cablemod's aluminium anodised cable combs make it look like layers on a 3D printed cable comb lol

lol!!! I love the ks "keep spending" line Jay I laughed so hard almost spit my food out...

Best short video ever 😍 wait it still going dang it lol

currently on a i5 6600k build. next 1 is definitely gonna b an amd build if it happens within the next couple years

@boingkster

4 жыл бұрын

Go a 3600 on a used B350 Pro4 board. Great chip, great board, very affordable. My 6600k got sold off as soon as I got my Ryzen rig running!

@Breadlocks

4 жыл бұрын

My school has better processors lol

@Zefar77

4 жыл бұрын

Look, if you have an i5 6600K you can probably bump it up to a 8700K or higher and overclock it because I believe the same motherboard will support it. I jumped from a i5 8400 to an i7 8700 non K and drastically improved FPS in a lot of games. I didn't need to go out to buy an entirely new motherboard either. So if I wanted an AMD at a similar power level I'd had to shelf out more money. Quite a bit more in fact. Now the reason I didn't go with the K version was because I'm not an overclocker type. Also the Non K ran at lower temps too so I could install a Notcua L9i on it. All though temps go a bit high in certain games. Near 100 C mark. Getting a Watercooling solution instead.

@boingkster

4 жыл бұрын

@@Zefar77 you need a new board between intel generations. 6600k, you can only go to a 6700k. May as well go to Ryzen. 8400 to 8700 is a good move, definitely liquid it though.

@Zefar77

4 жыл бұрын

@@boingkster Okay, then going AMD could be good idea if one has to buy a new motherboard.

Well Guess Jays new PC should be named Skunk Rigs XD

cool video +1 for the music part!

Hi Jay! I remeber a few years ago you were wanting to quit your day job to chase your passion....Looks like you are on board! Continued great success to you! Congrats!

Agreed. I love keeping up with tech (conceptually), but haven't built a new rig in 10+ years. Decided to get back in it (physically) and am going AMD this time. Just waiting to see how the 3950x does (who am I kidding, it will be mine) before wrapping it up.

@joshuasterling2144

4 жыл бұрын

That cpu should be good for at least 5 years...loll

@ayuchanayuko

4 жыл бұрын

Running a Core 2 Quad or Phenom II X4 or something?

@ivanlagrossemoule

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't even keep up that much yet I randomly watched some 3900x benchmarks and quickly realized it was time to build a new computer. Plus I just started a job so I have the finances too.

@mohdfaizal6773

4 жыл бұрын

Windows still sucks 😂📺

@constibonsti7917

4 жыл бұрын

Mohd Faizal why a tv emoji tho?

Currently on X99 and waiting for 3950X to launch. If Intel can't show me something new before that, I'm probably making the switch. Would be my first time back since Athlon64.

In the middle of this video where you talk about tried and true. That’s one of the reason I have stayed with my old Hackintosh. Maybe, next year an upgrade will be in order. Good rant Jay.

Hey Jay! Very informative vid. Did my first stock Cinebench r20 runs last night with my 3900X got roughly 7200 point score and it only got to 76 degrees=)

im waiting for the 3950 chip 16 cores to build my new rig ;0

@adamtajhassam9188

4 жыл бұрын

I saw in one of Jays buddies vids PUT it simply- if your working AMD is your friend , if your Gaming - Intel- and the price isnt as that much difference :) Final note a 3rd party - said the sweet spot 4 gaming is in fact 8 cores, wher in servers the sweet spot was 24 not 32. take note :)

@captaincrazy5008

4 жыл бұрын

@@adamtajhassam9188 bruh you just posted cringe

@DiegoUbachNieto

4 жыл бұрын

@@adamtajhassam9188 I don't really get why on servers the "sweet spot" should be 24 cores, it all depends on your workloads... as for Desktop, have you realized that AMD can game as well? its not like AMD gives 10 fps while Intel 500 fps :/ specially on ryzen 3000 also there are productivity apps that run better on Intel like Adobe Premiere, CPU choice is not as simple as "gaming vs working" ...

@Trancedd

4 жыл бұрын

The vast majority of people I know use their computers for some kind of creative hobby and/or work persuite.

Got my 7820X and X299 board like 2017, delidded/liquid metal tim, EK monoblock, no plan on upgrading till I can get a used like 10-18 core chip a gen or two down the line for cheaper eventually. I want this chip to last me as long as my 2500K I had before it did (so 2024?), but difference will be on this platform can make a big core count upgrade, sell my old CPU, stick with the same platform instead of ditching entire platform, and have minimal downtime. And because of DX12 and the way chips like you said hitting a frequency wall so adding cores, hoping game developers work with what they got and use these New APIs towards that. As for GPU, New 7nm Nvidia cards due 2020, and AMD hopefully going to drop some competition at the high end, so my GTX1080 I got in 2016 gonna last at least 4 years (from 2016) which is ideally how long I keep GPUs. I got it running at 2214MHz core stable (custom loop, EK block) and it benches between the 2060 Super and 2070 Super, and closer to the latter, so I'm happy for now. As long as it can play Cyberpunk 2077 at 1440p at respectable settings I'm happy till next gen GPUs.

Hey Jay... As an individual who has been working on the 7nm conundrum with those who get it... there are a couple of problems.. 1 is that operable v-core voltage at >1.3v is still causing overheating issues which is why we have been lowering that v-core and using it as a mobile processor platform. 2. The non soldered tp"s are a product of labor issues and the toxicity levels associated with its installation... that is why the thermal compounds are being used. There are more than one problem with the etching process at 7nm... the biggest being reflectivity from heat across transistors. 10nm outperforms 7 when core voltage is lowered far enough to offset this issue. The problem is for real and being worked on. If it were as simple as sending processors out in retail packaging and the public being okay with less than 100% results then you would already have one in your hand.

I don't think gamers nexus etc is your peers. One reason I like watching your channel J is your humility. I think you're very humble. You don't gloat or anything like that you're a good man. They're your equals. They're very humble as well. Most geeks are. Geek power! LoL Another excellent video bro. Keep them coming!

@marksemple297

4 жыл бұрын

thats exactly what 'peers' means, 2. a person of the same age, status, or ability as another specified person. "he has incurred much criticism from his academic peers" comes from latin par=equal.

@Cogzed

4 жыл бұрын

Mark Semple right you are. I stand corrected.

@marksemple297

4 жыл бұрын

@@Cogzed you were probably thinking of the peerage aka peers. 1. a member of the nobility in Britain or Ireland, comprising the ranks of duke, marquess, earl, viscount, and baron. "hereditary peers could still dominate the proceedings of the House of Lords". *english language* "how may i confuse you today sir?" gotta love it.

Coming from a i9 9900k my next workstations is for sure AMD 16cores/32threads

amd is sitting on a few cards like the 3950x and threadripper and im sure they have an unannounced cpu that is even bigger and badder that theyre keeping under wraps

@wahahah

4 жыл бұрын

Tbh I have money on Inte will figure their shit out lol

@EvilTurkeySlices

4 жыл бұрын

I think the comet lake top of the line will just be a 9900k with 2 more cores. Intel will be like “look, we have a 10-Core” and then AMD says”BOOM, 16-core”

@ayuchanayuko

4 жыл бұрын

@@EvilTurkeySlices and then Intel goes -- haha gotcha BOOM FOVEROS IS HERE BIATCH. Then AMD be like "You just activated my trap card -- ZEN 4 4WAY SMT 24-CORE 96-THREADS END OF GAME EXODIA". Meanwhile Intel's Foveros tech becomes their Bulldozer just like how AMD had a hard time with HBM chips and having to advertise their BIG-little arch with 10 cores but (4big6small) getting sued for it. Game or Trump Cards

@robertvandeneijk1284

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sure the base and boost clocks will come up as 3000 series manufacturing matures. On top of that, AMD has now the management and development structure needed to put out new products in rapid pace while Intel is clearly struggling in that area. Of course this can change. But turning a large ship around may take a while.

@HD7970

4 жыл бұрын

EvilTurkeySlices it will be one of those where intel is like hey guys look we have a cpu that is $700 dollars and its faster than the 3950x and amd back hands them with a 18 core cpu saying youll get em next time

Always informative and very logical. Enjoy these types of videos

Holy crap, a sponsor talk I actually listened to to help with my poor cable management?? Who would have thought lol!

Skunk Riggs and Murtaugh, Lethal Weapon 5 Ghz

As a potential high end PC builder for September/October 2019 timeframe, I am going with the i9-9900k for 1 reason: gaming performance is king due to clock speed @ 5ghz. If AMD can get those clocks from 4.3ish to 5.0ghz, I would 100% go AMD. I want to build a new pc before Doom Eternal release in November. Maybe I will wait 1.5 months to see if there is any news from intel. Thanks for the vid.

@Malus1531

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. People keep going on about AMD's cores but it doesn't do much good if your workload can't use them, which is pretty much the rationale Jay used in this video. AMD has made amazing strides in single-core performance. 15% over last gen is way more than we've seen from Intel in years. But they still need to be a little bit faster to make it into top-tier gaming builds.

@CalculatedRiskAK

4 жыл бұрын

I have a feeling that clock speed while maintaining IPC is gonna be the focus for AMD on Ryzen 4th Generation. If AMD can keep their higher IPC and match Intel's clock speed, then there will be one clear winner in CPUs. Right now, Intel is good for a non-streamer and AMD is a no-brainer for a streamer due to those extra threads.

@perfectdiversion

4 жыл бұрын

The 9900k is a beast but it would be perfect if it was a little cheaper

@thomastormaschy1445

4 жыл бұрын

I would still go AMD if I was you, for the same price you can get 12 cores, As an owner of both, I definitely urge you to get the 3900X instead, overall the performance is a lot better than 9900k, at best the 9900k matches 3900X, and its possible that AMDs next Cpu gen will fit into X570 boards, so you may be able to upgrade to the even faster next gen cpus with 4 threads per core

@Vartazian360

4 жыл бұрын

@@thomastormaschy1445 the 3900x is slower in gaming than the 9900k by more than 10% in many games, and average about 10% slower in games across 36 tested. That is what i care about 99% of the time. I get it that 3900x destroys benchmarks and productivity, but as a 165hz user, i care about every percent of frames for FPS gaming and VR.

At 3:55 I thought you said "Comment Lake" 😂😅

For those who wonder, intro music: Zombie Raiders - Wave Saver :-)

“I digress” Story of Jays life 😄

Call ur new rig Skunkrig XD

I'm with you Jay - keeping my 7960x overkill rig for quite a while (though mine doesn't run hot like yours - during winter benchmarks at 5.2ghz all core I never saw 90 c on any core)

Where do you get the "death metal" music? I love it every time I see the benchmarks!

Have a nice day! ♥️

HAHAHAHAHA, i love that joke on the bleeding edge, very intelligent use of the word

I love these off-the-cuff style videos that you do Jay. Brilliant.

... i appriciated the long focus lenght picture!

I have an 1800x that I bought in 2017 just before gen 2 (well the 2000 series) came out and I freaking love it for my workstation/gaming system. I use the 8 cores and 32GB 3000MHz RAM for my AI research and school projects. We just built a 24 core epyc system for neural network training and moving VM's from one host to another and it is ridiculous for spending only $2000US. The intel equivalent was over twice as much once you included board and CPU(s) and if it came from an OEM it was 8k minimum. Not an AMD fanboy but I'm on the AMD bandwagon for the time being.

@mdd1963

4 жыл бұрын

Epyc is priced darn well compared to similar core count socket 3467 monstrosities...

Intel should give away free death metal albums with their CPUs. That'll keep me buying.

Actually quite helpful. I got an X570 board but needed to save up to get the 3900X. I started getting cold feet when it's been out of stock for so long, plus the price was creeping up, meanwhile the 9900KF was down to $410, and the KS on the way. So the "if you're building an AMD PC right now, stay the course" is reassuring.

I haven't been in the tech scene for a while now, since police academy and starting up that career took over pretty much all my free time. It's great to see my favorite tech content creators still at it, and putting out good info while giving a heads up on what's going on now. Looking forward to doing a deep dive with y'alls videos while I figure out what's what for when I update my old desktop. Stay honest, keep up the great videos, keep being awesome.

I'm so drunk right now, I just wanna say I love tech youtube and if it weren't for this I'd be so depressed and straight up a dumb person I love everything about the pc reviewer side of youtube what a time to be alive

@John-fg1xg

4 жыл бұрын

Rex Gomes ha ha

Plot Twist: Ryan Shrout is a AMD plant so that AMD can make a real dent in every market not just the enterprise

I really enjoy your 'talking head' pieces Jay. They are way more relatable than the path your regular content has been going. I think this Jack Kerouac stream of consciousness talking head thing is the Jayztwocents niche. Thumbs up! Keep it up please

@JayzTwoCents I like you're videos a lot. They literally helped me jump into the tech world and build my first rig 4+ years ago. I also really enjoy that I can watch your videos and the bloopers all at once. ;)

Think I’ll happily stick to my Ryzen 1950x all core 4.0ghz

I just did something I never thought I would do. I built a AMD rig running a 3800x. Because I couldn't wait any more to build a replacement gaming/work station for intel to get off it's over priced ass!

@galactusgalan4233

4 жыл бұрын

isn't the 3800x $399, and the 9900kf $419?

@cameronb2765

4 жыл бұрын

@@galactusgalan4233 9900k in Australia is $800, 3800x is $609, and 3900x is $789 And you don't need a new motherboard or cooler, easily saving even more so I agree Intel need to get off there ass

@Saigonas

4 жыл бұрын

@@cameronb2765 so you're saying you upgrade every 1-3 years? High end cpu? That's stupid. If you top high end cpu, it will be good for another 5 years. And you see, ryzen 1000 launched in 2017. And now, those motherboards doesn't support Ryzen 3000 after just 2 years. You think if person bought modt high end AM5 socket cpu, that he will upgrade 2-3 years later? No, he won't. And if he already had good intel system, and he wanted to "get off Intel, because its overpriced", that's just fanboyism. You already have good system, and you will change it, because intel is overpriced. But you already have it, so he spent even more money to get new mobo and cpu, because of fanboyism. And if you buy high end cooler for 80-110$, it will last atleast 5 years (atleast 7 years for air cooler). So you are gonna get good cooler, which will keep your cpu and help other components be cool. And not everyone is in the Australia. He could be in USA. You don't know, so you can't compare prices. If he was in USA and bought 3800x over 9900KF, then it was horrible choice. You could've spent few dollars more on 9900kf and get around 5-20 fps more. And as i said, cooler you buy will last long time. Also it will be easier to sell 9900KF, than 3800x, because everyone knows that 9900kf is better than 3800x .

I’m glad I watched this. Been planning on building a rig for a while. I’ve settled on a Luxe 2 case (if I could find any in stock.) I think I’ll get the case when I can and wait closer to Black Friday to purchase parts for it. Was planning on using a 9900k but if I can a better processor for the same price I think I might wait. Or snag a 9900k on sale when they drop the price. Btw need you to do something with that Luxe 2 case so you can tell me the ins and outs of it.

Jay is moisterous.... 2019!

JaysTwoCents to Intel: lower your price or, you will sitting on shelf!

What!? I thought i was the only one!!! I briked 3 ryzen mobos due to a bios update!

@TotalWarriorLegends

4 жыл бұрын

How?

@PatientZeroBalisong

4 жыл бұрын

Aygul18 I wish I knew. Tech said ram incompatibility

That's it his new pc build shall be forever known as Skunkrigs.

Jay put Ghost Love Score from Nitghtwish. Awesome

After all you said. I guarantee you go with the new chip. We'll get that, "Well, I've decided to..," video soon..

why did tech companies decided to make naming so confusing.

The "tester" thing u talk about is exactly why I recently finished my r7 2700x & Vega 64 build.... Very happy with it

hello Jay. sorry for being away from the PC content. Lets just say you really promote these brands a lot. Therefore, we thank you for making everything open by teaching us more. missed you dad

I sure hope my 4790K will last a few more years. C'mon Intel!

@DrakkarCalethiel

4 жыл бұрын

Still a solid CPU when overclocked!

@selekah

4 жыл бұрын

@@kaisercreb my 5775C has zero issues in BFV. I can even play RTX low with my 1080 (everything else maxed)

@Dani-wx9zd

4 жыл бұрын

I bought the i5 4690k in 2015 and i overclocked it to 4.4GHz on air with a 212evo. Now i wish i bought the i7 4790k because that thing overclocked will last you like 2 more years. Now i wanna upgrade might buy the i7 9700k.

@guldukat1354

4 жыл бұрын

@@Dani-wx9zd i bought i5 4460 in 2015 for a more budget build. Back then it was hard to dish out the cash for i7 k skus. Paired with a mid range gpu the performance to cost was jut not there. And with amd nowhere to be seen i recon people were hard pressed to spend money on i7's. If you had something like 2500k you can still rock that today. Also xeon conversions were weary popular back then

@Hashhakaj.Kamaluddin

4 жыл бұрын

I have PC with Intel i7-4970 and I'm very happy, I want to upgrade my CPU to i7-4970k and the price was really from 200$ as used!. When I still looking for cheaper, I found someone who sell Ryzen 5 2400G+B350 motherboard for 150$. I spent 50$ for dual channel ram and I was shock that this Rysen APU has CPU that is equivalent score of i7-4970K in CPU-Z . To sum up . I spent 200$ for CPU+GPU+motherboard+ram rather that spend 200$ for a used CPU.

I've been waiting since 2500K...

@volo1826

4 жыл бұрын

Still rocking a 2500k. Loved that cpu

Jay you named the rig "SkunkWorks" and you want to play it safe? Build big, dream big, go big and define the experimental bleeding edge - that is what Lockheed's Skunk Works symbolized. Live up to the name.

My rig runs a i7 8700k @ 5ghz, My wifes rig runs a i5 9400f @stock My friends rig i built for him runs a i5 6600k @ 4.6ghz all these chips run fantastic for gaming and editing. got most of them on sales as well.

Crystal Lake... inserts cpu into mother board..... Voorhees pops out ;)

@radioreactivity3561

4 жыл бұрын

Lol.

I've gone through Athlon 64 x2--> Ryzen 5 3600! Best buy of my life

@samba9450

4 жыл бұрын

Dutch Republic MappingTM I’m currently going from a i5 6500 to a ryzen 5 3600. Building a whole new rig. I hope it has real good performance compared to the old one

@turkepic3637

4 жыл бұрын

@@samba9450 may your frames be high!

@mdd1963

4 жыл бұрын

you stayed with an X2 rig from 2005-2006 this long?!!!!!!!!!!

@turkepic3637

4 жыл бұрын

@@mdd1963 yes. F for me.

Thanks Jay, this is such a well said video, thanks for this great video.

Meanwhile I run a converted Lenovo M82 Business PC (literally the lenovo Mobo) with a Core i7-3770 backed by a Cooler Master EVO Hyper 212 air cooler, 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RAM, showing my content with an Nvidia 650TI Boost GPU as my gaming rig, no upgrades in sight as i just built this system. My previous system Gigabyte GA-M68M-S2P Mobo with and AMD Phenom II X2 555 BE unlocked but only 3 of the 4 cores stable (effectively an X3) over clocked to 3.9 Ghz, 8GB DDR2 RAM, Same cooler and same GPU....as we can see I don't upgrade often lol and I am with Jay on IDC what name is on the CPU all I care about is the performance I see on my screen. great video and great job highlighting the confusion and strife that accompanies the "what's next" mentality of some users out there. I continue to watch in earnest as he fumbles words, phrases and laughs at himself while informing all of us on the ins and out of everything PC that matters