Richard and Leah are inspirational! As a realtor I have applied portions of my commissions to helping young families to purchase a home. Also, I was inspired to advocate a program for Down Payment Assistance in Davis, CA. Thanks to both the Rothstein's and I so appreciate their book Just Action.

@misstunes1765

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your contributions to the Down Payment Asst. program! Continued success to you.

@Rnankn

6 ай бұрын

Isn’t that perpetuating the problem? Home ownership is why inequality exists. When real estate becomes a market, it transforms from homes into savings vehicles, financial collateral, and a casino. When everyone is gambling, the house wins (no pun intended).

Richard Rothstein's "The Color of Law" is an absolute masterpiece that I wholeheartedly endorse and cannot recommend enough. I recently acquired a copy of "Just Action" and I am eagerly looking forward to exploring how communities of color can address and rectify the long-lasting impacts of legalized segregation.

@imperialmotoring3789

Жыл бұрын

What does that book say about illegals and borders? Does the ukraine now have to accept people of color into their all White nation?

@robinaluko

Жыл бұрын

Please, if you mean "Black" people, say "Black" people, not "communities of color."

@imperialmotoring3789

Жыл бұрын

@@robinaluko Just call them "people". Why are Democrats so hung up on color???

@lynneanderson4255

Жыл бұрын

The Color of Law is, as you said, a masterpiece. I've recommended it to so many people.

@imperialmotoring3789

Жыл бұрын

@@lynneanderson4255 Sounds like a good read. Hunter Biden got off because of his White privilege. Any Black man would be in prison for his crimes.

Excellent interview! I grew up in Jim Crow south. Segregation was awful! It’s still going on!

@imperialmotoring3789

Жыл бұрын

I grew up in open border Chicago. It was also pretty awful.

I like the talk. I believe everything they said is true. I hope Leah and Richard will expand their research to the most harmed people in America. Native people who have the highest poverty rate, highest drug problem issues, lowest medical help, Probably the worst schools in America, highest suicide rate per one hundred thousand and the worst housing of any people in America. And most likely the lowest number of people in University. No where has racial discrimination been more obvious than with Native Americans. Whoops I forgot its not even known by must people in America. Which means almost never talked about. I not saying to take away the light on Black folks. I'm saying sharing the light with the people who have been harmed the greatest throughout out American history.

@imperialmotoring3789

Жыл бұрын

Maybe they are all trans abd need you to help trans them?

@roberth2627

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I think they said that this is not to take away from other marginalized groups of color...Native American surely have a claim to make about the inhumane treatment in this country..I've noticed over the last couple of years more visibility with the plight of Native Americans ..which is a good thing & hope to see more of this..As I see it the issue with Native American is" out of sight out of mind"..because many live on far away reservations..& those that live in cities seem to be mixed in with Latinos with Spanish last names & don't stand out.. Also their is a myth as untrue as it is, that many Native Americans have been wiped out....Just this year I've seen more news stories about these horrible. Christain schools in which many Native children were taken from their families to civilize them by white people in these schools ; going back a hundred years. America is going through a reckoning which includes Americas two original sins the treatment of both Native Americans & the thief of their lands, & the enslavement & degrading treatment of African Americans in the past 400 years.. Working together of both groups when they can will be a great advantage ..We have more in common than many know ...

@imperialmotoring3789

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@@roberth2627 Can I complain about something that happened hundreds of years ago to other people and use that an an excuse today?

@roberth2627

Жыл бұрын

@@imperialmotoring3789 Your comment is revealing you said to" other people." we live in a world short on empathy" for others; as long as it's not me ..not in my back yard mentality. A creeping" Narcissism " has taken hold in societies. One sees it in our politics of today. A kind of Sicking of the collective Soul..People talk of taking responsibility , when it comes to" others..but when it's their turn..they use all manner of Gas lighting to avert from doing so themselves; be it Indvidual or collective. When it comes to harm to others be it a individuals or collective..thier is no limit on the scales of justice..sooner or later one has to take responsibility. No matter how much time has passed..

@imperialmotoring3789

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@@roberth2627 When other nations pay into my tax base I will consider "the other". In the meantime stay in your own backyards and respect our border.

I would go farther and say not only an Apartheid society but also a burgeoning Aristocracy. Wealthy families gain more wealth after every economic downturn because they can afford to buy when everyone is selling and they are also networking in closed societies that include Country Clubs, Ivy League Universities and Boardrooms. We now have a class system whether we admit it or not.

My sister and I inherited our family home after our father passed in 2015. Our father purchased a 3-bedroom, single-bath, two-story home with a detached garage in a mixed-race neighborhood in West Dayton, Ohio after he got out of the Air Force in 1966. Within little over a decade, due to “White Flight '', the neighborhood became and continues to be nearly entirely African American. When we inherited the property in 2015 the valuation by the city for tax purposes was $30,000. My father paid off the mortgage decades ago, so when I got the deed as the executor of the estate, I learned my father had originally purchased the house for $15,000 Starting early in the 1980s, as the manufacturing jobs that attracted so many workers to Dayton began to be moved to Mexico and overseas, abandoned homes abounded on my block and in the surrounding communities. My sister and I left Ohio in the 1980s because of diminished employment opportunities in that area. In Ohio, to be the executor of the estate, one must be a resident of the state, so I returned and lived in the house for the first time in decades. Our inheritance from our father came mostly from life insurance policies and his 401(K) savings account from his years working for General Motors which was reinvested after GM bought out retirees such as him. Dayton was a vibrant community for hourly wages African Americans to enjoy the lower reaches of the American middle class. Yet, as I visited parts of the surrounding community, areas I had never ventured into during my youth, I found a nearly deserted community with dozens upon dozens, if not hundreds of abandoned boarded-up houses. I sought out Richard Rothstein's book “The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America”. I'm now 63 years old and the history of White flight is well known. What I did not know is why many of my father's generation had lived with such thrift, why no one made improvements to their property, why when people left Dayton, no one moved in behind us and none of us who had left came back. Why the closed storefronts I saw in the early 80s are still closed or have become vacant lots. Each of the major shopping centers on the West side of town had closed decades ago. My old community is designated a food desert. Downtown is practically devoid of businesses. PBS Frontline produced a story that aired on September 11, 2018, titled “Left Behind America'' focusing on Dayton, Ohio as an example of many such rust belt cities, former industrial economic engines of the past economy, that had not benefited from the economic improvements seen across the country after the 2008 financial crisis. My old neighborhood's decline started after the 1981 & 1982 recessions. It was soon after that I and many young Daytonians left the area or the state. In the four years, I lived in the house after my dad passed, I have rarely seen a for sale sign on any property's lawn. Just before I left, yes I abandoned the property and left it to my sister to deal with, a house one block south of ours had a for sale by owner sign placed on the lawn in May of 2019 asking $14,900 in cash or $1400 down and $364/month. By October the sign was still there and the asking price dropped by $1000. Adjusted for inflation, all the homes in my childhood neighborhood had lost value since they were purchased. At the peak of the housing bubble, my father told me the house was valued at $60,000, when I left in 2019 the house value had dropped back down to $25,000 from a peak of $35,000 two years earlier. Neighborhoods like these are prime locations to set up halfway homes for drug rehabilitation and sex offenders. There are even abandoned Habitat for Humanity homes in this neighborhood. When I placed $15,000 into an inflation calculator for money invested in 1966, the house should be valued at around $156,000 just to keep pace with inflation, that is without any equity. In the Frontline story I mentioned above, a group of European Muslims took up residence in Dayton, in an interview with their representative they claim they were able to purchase houses for as low as between $8000 to $4000. To Mister Rothstein, I may read your current book “Just Action: How to Challenge Segregation Enacted Under the Color of Law”, but for my neighborhood and many others just like it across the nation, improvements will come, but not for us and those who may still title to those houses but live in other states. Over the four years I lived there, I have seen the city make infrastructure improvements; repave streets, fix underground water leaks, and replace underground gas lines up to the home property line. AT&T laid down fiber optic cable for an area with mostly abandoned homes and elderly people. All my childhood schools have been closed or demolished. The city mows the lawns of abandoned and unkempt properties at a rate of $250 per visit. Houses for cash signs are all over telephone poles. I'm predicting that these neighborhoods will be revitalized, a handful of white homeowners have moved in, but real change will not come, I believe, until nearly all of the African American residents die off and the renters have been pushed out.

@4cberry

Жыл бұрын

This was sad to read. 😢. Thank you for sharing your story.

@robertpendergrass7996

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely thank you for your great story !

@tradeprosper5002

Жыл бұрын

Real estate comes down to location in the end. Most of what you described applies to much of the Rust Best regardless of race. I supported manufacturing as an engineering consultant and was heart-broken to see so many jobs outsourced.

@robertpendergrass7996

Жыл бұрын

@@tradeprosper5002 For years federal state and city red lining along with banks and insurance companies has caused these neighborhoods to be bad locations ! You say it had nothing to do with race ? Systematic racism in American HOUSING has everything to do with racism. Even in the rest belt Mself being a 72 year old United States Marine Corps veteran and a retired unionized steel mill worker lived what I speak .

@tradeprosper5002

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@@robertpendergrass7996 For some areas, but for the many Rust Belt areas where there are now no jobs has it made a difference? Not that I can see. I've seen a lot of towns where the plant or mill closed. Rural towns are dying all over. I was born in a small wheat farming town in Oklahoma that is dying.

I so appreciate these topics being discussed. Such a much-needed book! Fantastic interview.

It's interesting that you don't see slums in Europe. And you know why? Subsidized housing keeps the "playing field" level for all. Different income levels live in the same neighborhoods and miraculously - it works!!!!! When you segregate where people live based on income level, you get the mess that is the United States.

@pattiderosamusic3292

Жыл бұрын

And when you fund public schools from local property taxes from those economically and racially segregated communities (US), you get unequal schools (vs national funding of public schools in Europe).

@RamadonPiano

10 ай бұрын

@@pattiderosamusic3292 And when you concentrate disadvantaged young men in areas of urban decay you will get violence. Yet many alt right Republicans will blame it on, “Black Culture”.

I wonder if they deal with the relatively new policy of mixed income housing? The reasoning behind it is that previous efforts to eliminate poverty by relocation efforts like vouchers simply relocated lower income people together in the same communities and thus just recreated the same kind of environment they came from - pockets of poverty they call them. This new strategy is to spread them out in smaller numbers and in even more affluent (more often suburban) communities. The better amenities in these communities and the culture in them is supposed to benefit and influence them, and thus break the cycle of poverty. This policy may be two decades old now. There has to be some track record of it. Has media made it known to the public? Many Black people are up in arms about gentrification, but Nicole Hannah Jones is on record as having said it in itself is not a bad thing. She has also said that Black children would benefit from having White children in their classrooms. These are certainly controversial statements coming from a Black person, especially one who is receiving so much criticism from conservatives for her work - The 1619 Project. How can she get so much attention for it, but little to nothing be said about her previous comments on segregation and gentrification? I have yet to hear even Black media cover her statements or question how this newer housing policy has fared. Government isn't serving us well nor is media. Need I mention education relative to other leading nations?

@lynneanderson4255

Жыл бұрын

Mixed income housing certainly isn't new and is a throwback to the past. In the NYC I knew, the butcher used to live next door to the doctor who lived next door to the teacher who lived next door to the bus driver who lived next door to the musician who lived next door to the nurse who lived next door to the civil engineer who lived next door to the small business owner who lived next door to the school principal who lived next door to the custodian who lived next door to the.... Then came the expansion of redlining.

Great talk. Wow!

Look at the face on this guy. This guy has an all-business face. His face is saying, "Do I look like I'm joking?"

THANK YOU FOR THIS ESSENTIAL TOPIC. 👍🏾👍

Everyone knows what happened to us, They simply don't care.

This is a huge problem that’s bigger than local solutions. The best thing this country can do is to enact federal reparations for ADOS so that the racial wealth gap can be closed, and AA can live where they want, as well as these housing & credit initiatives that are remnants of our long history of apartheid.

@tedmom3029

Жыл бұрын

LOL NO REPARATIONS!

Black folks have known this for years. But it is nice when others join the party called civil rights where everyone else seems to benefit at the end of the day.

People are comfortable saying that wealth protects them, their gated communities are what they mean by "community," and certainly reds don't get a say. You cannot say it's apartheid without being shunned in my reality. These people certainly have a unique talent for saying the truth without being pummelled.

Great closer, Mr. Rothstein. But just a paragraph prior, you quickly stroll though America's racism as it was expressed towards many other races and nationalities coming to the "empty continent". A case by case solution is just another baggage that will keep any enduring answer beginning now to occur. First, Congress, both Houses, must produce and pass code of laws that make this behavior illegal, give it teeth. Follow that with a scholarship program that any child coming from a distressed home- primarily economic, but other stressors could apply- have an open door to a full boat, four year degree if qualified to enter any college or university with over say 10% in government funding or assistances. And that program should last no less than 20 years. I fully agree that American society is headed in some very ill to fatal directions as far as the future goes; the US isn't the only "great nation", or aspirant, with a declining birth rate- and for many of those nations the international brain drain is already beginning; will they come to revitalize America, as those "teeming masses" have done through her history, or will they choose more welcoming, less fraught places to live and thrive? Btw, that applies to all the low wage earning immigrants that flock to our shores- they mostly know the streets are not paved in gold, and THEY absolutely know a lot of everywhere else is much worse. It's time, again, that America sat down and shared it's Apple Pie and enjoyed the Tacos, Bier, and Goulashes of far away brought home to America.

I love his optimism that folks will fight to make these changes, but people are upset at DEI initiatives and even a conversation around reparations, so getting them to fight a long fight of this nature - en masse - is wishful thinking. The Color of Law is essential reading though, for real.

🦋🐝

An interesting story would be about how victim groups are perpetual. 1000 years from now we'll have the same outrages. These groups take on a life of their own, always seeking retribution, always raising money to pay activist salaries. There can never be any resolution. I'm of Irish descent and would like retribution for how the Irish were treated in Ireland and in the US. But oh damn, I also have German descent, so I guess I owe Jewish people some money too. And I am White so I owe Black people some money too...despite my ancestors came to the US years after slavery ended and UK Navy spend great effort trying to stop the slave trade. But never mind all that, my skin tone is white so I should be forced to hand some of my money to a person with darker skin tone. There's a reality...humans can be bastards. Life is not fair. Never was, never will be. Not sure why anyone would expect anything different.

@robinaluko

Жыл бұрын

There is one fundamental difference that most people with your attitude seem to forget: BLACK people were stolen from their land(s) and brought here forcibly. When your forefathers disembarked, they were coming here hoping for opportunities of a better life. #neverforget

#DiversityVsDistributiveJustice

As inequitable as housing and other social issues are in the US, even today, to call them Apartheid is absurd. I lived and schooled in South Africa during the height of the Apartheid system. Nothing even close to as racially discriminatory has been seen in the US for over 50 years.

Everybody Knows so very few Really Care

This kind of analysis problematizes racial inequality relationally, and in so doing, endorses the financialized economic that creates inequality structurally. Racial exclusion is not the problem. Rather, the explicit policy of creating a property owning society has facilitated the rise of a rentier economy. FIRE: finance, insurance, real estate, industrial complex turns housing into a speculative market that regressively redistributes wealth to a landed aristocracy. Speculative asset appreciation is inflationary, unproductive and follows the logic of a financial bubble. It is a form of financial colonization of the future, as future revenue is discounted to current prices, meaning investors are required to generate expected returns by raising future rents or reselling at a profit. Modern capitalism emerged as freedom from rent-seeking, or the extraction of wealth from a working peasant class by a title-bearing ownership class. America has taken the freedom it sought through independence, and turned it into the feudalism it rejected by becoming landlords for those who it claimed to have emancipated.

And yet, we find Indian developments in Florida where Indian’s want to live together (per NPR story), then there was the black area in DC where all the people interviewed did not want to sell to white people so they could maintain their black neighbor hood and they didn’t seem to think that was racist against white people either … and the list goes on and on. It is a form of cultural self-segregation.

@kwaltonverner

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NO…Not really. More like cultural self -PRESERVATION. Black people come from a LONG history where through legislation were only allowed to live with other black people . And when blacks were able to successfully do so, those areas were either destroyed by angry mobs of white people, taken over by imminent domain, (check out the history of the famous Central Park in New York) or starved of infrastructure such as good schools, and businesses. Black people who could afford to move away did. When the community is blighted it’s soon gentrified which really means whites move in and assume that community as their own. Even today blacks continue to be discriminated against when attempting to purchase new homes , especially in so called white neighborhoods even when able to afford to live there. By the way, do you call that “cultural self segregation “as well?

The people behind the business decisions that go into credit scoring should have just 4 minutes in the company of the rest of us. During which we can hold their heads underwater. This comes from someone with a high credit score. Not counting rent payment history in a credit score? Their heads underwater. Just 4 minutes.

@wrobinnes

Жыл бұрын

Get help

EVERY SINGLE FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICAN, AMERICAN DESCENDANTS OF US CHATTEL ENSLAVEMENT, FREEDMEN SHOULD BE FIGHTING FOR REPARATIONS. "We have No friends"- Dr.John Henrik Clarke . #FBA #ADOS #FREEDMEN #B1 #CUTTHECHECK #REPARATIONS #ECONOMICJUSTICE #DONTVOTEBLUEorRED

Yes, the J:s and the rest.

How are black home owners paying more in taxes on the value of their house? I'm amazed at the mental gymnastics Leah uses on the topic of mortgages and credit scores. People of any race can have a great credit score and never had a mortgage.

Do the Rothsteins live in neighborhoods with poor Black people?

@kwaltonverner

Жыл бұрын

Huh?

@christopher7824

Жыл бұрын

@@kwaltonverner I was just wondering if they are excoriating others for something they are guilty of as well.

@jacquelinepeoples379

Жыл бұрын

True.

@jacquelinepeoples379

Жыл бұрын

Christopher people like the Rothstein’s l believe are a part of the problem. Who needs another book? You have live in poor conditions to truly understand the inequity.

@Gabriel-pt6tq

Жыл бұрын

I highly doubt it.

This is another discussion about a fallacy based upon a misconception! Because of the Constitution of the United States we are precluded from segregation, apartheid, discrimination, disenfranchisement, or any type of separation of any type or under any conditions. It’s because of the republican form of government which is assembled by the republican principle; per capita apportionment of representation and suffrage based upon an enumeration, a census, to count the number of inhabitants within each State as a percentage of the aggregate population of the Union. This forms the People in their Collective Capacity, an exact representation of the population, assembled as the Most Numerous Legislative Branch, both in each State and in the Federal House of Representatives as required by Article 4 Section 4 of the Constitution of the United States which guarantees every State in the United States a Republican Form of Government, and to form a Confederated Republic, all constituent parts, the States, must themselves be either simple or confederate republics themselves, and by Article 1 Section 2 Clause 1, the process and qualified electorate which each State established to form their own Most Numerous Legislative Branch must be used to form each State’s representative delegation in the federal House of Representatives, only using the representative density of 1 representative for every 30,000 persons within each State, a process and qualified electorate which must be established in each States own Constitution rendering it unalterable by any means, not by congressional statute, State or Federal, or by Federal Constitutional Amendment, the process and qualified electorate can only be changed by State constitutional amendment to change the process and qualified electorate to form their own Most Numerous Legislative Branch, which still must comply with the republican principle to form The People in their Collective Capacity, an exact representation of the population of the State. If you notice the nested dependency of the Constitution of the United States on the Constitution’s of the several States, making all the Articles of the Constitution unalterable by any means, because the Constitution cannot be changed by congressional statute, as they did to form congressional districts, fix the number of representatives at 435, create the electoral college, create the two party system, taxing individual income, the voting rights act, and every amendment after the 12th, the 13th is included because it doesn’t abolish slavery because it still allows slavery as a punishment for those convicted of crimes and the proper process was not used to amend the Constitution, see Article 5, and if you notice, the Bill of Rights does not amend any of the Articles of the Constitution of the United States, they are all amendments of addition to curtail the collective power of the Union over the rights individuals, including individual States, they do not establish individual rights, they prevent the government from making laws which would deny individual rights, especially to petition the government for redress of grievances, which mostly take the form of grievances for improper assembly and operation of the government, that’s why we have freedom of speech and the press, it’s the first whistleblower law to protect those objecting to the current embodiment of the government from reprisal. When everyone participates in their government, either directly or through representation, it’s impossible to pass laws which discriminate, disenfranchise, oppress, or otherwise divide the people, especially along ideological or racial lines.

@kwaltonverner

Жыл бұрын

Yes we know that it shouldn’t! But it still happens ! And when it does that’s why there are attorneys to enforce the laws.

Many are wounded traumatized and tired of working on intergration. Has been an exercise in frutility. I like this author but.....

@Thisistheday3

Жыл бұрын

but... The fight continues or we all go back to the plantation days! Action must increase or we loose what we've gained!

@chaserofthelight1737

Жыл бұрын

I agree… I don’t look at myself as a pessimist, but a realist.