Thanks again to the both of you for dropping by. It was fun and exhausting indeed...let's see what happens in PART 2 of our epic studio battle.

@rocnred

2 жыл бұрын

That was awesome. The Lewitt guys were great. Fun challenge. I have the Lewitt LCT 640. I have had it for about 9 years and I use it all the time.

@GuyXVIII

2 жыл бұрын

GG guys! Just got back from a gig with my MTP540. I have it for several years now and it's my preferred live mic!

@Killadey

2 жыл бұрын

You guys are doing great things, I have a pair of 140s on my radar!

Mix A is absolutely Glenn's mix. Not only does it sound miles better,, but there's his trademark "shit ton of reverb on the snare" technique that totally makes his signature sound.

@h1de

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, same for the toms. They have that Glenn sound.

@jakobole

2 жыл бұрын

It's funny, because in more traditional pop, it works wonders as well :) You can have a loud, dry and punchy kick, and a 50% wet snare, and wetter toms - provided the latter is only here and there.

@phantasmich

2 жыл бұрын

80's snare with a ton of reverb technique 👍

@goldstudio7738

2 жыл бұрын

and that fat kick and crystal highs

@jakobole

2 жыл бұрын

@@phantasmich or mult the snare, eq, limit to hell, plate, limit as well - and then tuck it in beneath.

I'll go with mix A: it's a bit more rough on the cymbals but it sounds more full and modern. The fact that its volume is higher doesn't help in a fair comparison.

Hah yea mix A is definitely SSS, i can't imagine Glenn being so pleased himself with the sound of the mix B kick, but both sounded really good for 60 minutes to setup, record and mix... and i imagine Glenn has vastly more experience in making quick decisions about a mix. Thanks guys, love to Lewitt and SSS

"Somebody should've been a bass player." You always sneak 'em in and I love it

this was really cool, liked both mixes, feel like Mix A was a bit raw, and Mix B went too far with a "safe" sound. that being said, its really really really amazing how you guys pulled this off in the time

@GroovingDrums

2 жыл бұрын

You mean, the mix was alive, not raw, raw sounds different. B on the other hand was muffled dead.

@DudeMcGuybro

2 жыл бұрын

@@GroovingDrums Are you just ignoring the glaring abudnance of 5-10k frequency on track A? That and the kick blended in with the rest of the band.

@GroovingDrums

2 жыл бұрын

@@DudeMcGuybro Did I say it was perfect and nothing needs to be adjusted? Heck no. But for one hour including mic placement, recording, mixing, it feels just alive. You can clearly hear how dead Mix B is when you directly listen from the End of A to the beginning of B. Not only the drums are more alive, but also the rest of the band. Track B is so muffled down, 'it's dead Jim'.

@DudeMcGuybro

2 жыл бұрын

@@GroovingDrums You have a fair point! I prefer blankets instead of razor blade because my ears are big babies and can't handle the frequencies xD

Both mixes work, for sure. Mix A has more energy, but it almost sounds a bit too crushed/hyped, whereas B sounded like it was a little too safe, not quite energetic enough, but overall tone I did prefer B. Cool video though, would love to see more like this! Maybe something with Shure?

@jthunderbass1

2 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I thought.

@anthonytsi

2 жыл бұрын

Mix A peaked so bad.

@NDQ17

2 жыл бұрын

mix b sounds a lot more like a demo

It’s so cool seeing Glenn just doing his thing and seeing him making micing and mixing decisions in the moment

@LEWITT-audio

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, he's definitely such a pro in so many things.

Super cool video guys! Looks like an absolute blast!

prefer the Team A mix, i'm assuming it's yours lol. Drums are lot more clearer there which fits better for modern sounding metal band.

@yona9798

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, only sounds a bit phasey on the cymbals xD

Amazing episode, supercool production and concept. Keep up this content!!

What a fun challenge! Great to watch such vastly different perspectives. Wow! More than a touch of jealousy at the room you got to work in as well as having carte blanche of all those amazing Lewitt mics. Of the two mixes, mIx A just has more oomph, and definitely feels like Glenn's signature mix tropes are all over it. I'm just a sucker for how Glenn crushes the drum sound. Also, as a Reaper user, it was great to see Glenn just record the drums and then take the stems to his laptop and do his thing.

Awesome video. Love the whole fun competition idea. 🙏

This is absolute GOLD!

More like this Glen! Please and thankyou!

This was great, and actually pretty hyped,Glenn managed the time so effortlessly!!

Definitely going with A here. Sounds much bigger to my ears, the snare has a lot more pop to it as well and doesn't sound as dead. Cymbals I'm more balanced and not as hissy in the top end. Both sound good but A gets my boat

Awesome job getting these sounds, including tracking, in an hour. Good job all of you 🤟 cheers // Wince

Mix Aaaaaaaaa! Great drum sound. Thanks for the vid. Learned a lot

Love the way you did this video! Please do more. :D

Mix B is clearer and more in control. Mix A sounds more up front but the bass is a bit boomy. Fun video, thanks!

Oh wow. I’ve been in some insane studios in my day. The studio I grew up in was obsessed with upgrading to the newest unit every single time something came out. It was pretty insane. But this studio just looks beautiful. The studio grew up in looked like an 80s space shop, but this looks like a work of art!

@LEWITT-audio

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Much appreciated

What a great idea. Super interesting!!

Mix A is really great, everything feels like it was presented at their best. Mix B in comparison has a classic Morrisound vibe.

Love the Aux Cable ! Tone Bro !

Me: at work listening to this Glenn: Go waste a little more of your bosses time Me: Good idea Glenn *heads over to the Lewiston KZread page

“B” reminded me of the sounds from some 90’s-00’s bands that I really enjoy, so I pick it. I do believe “A” is probably the better one for modern production. I dig this type of video. Good job, y’all

@LEWITT-audio

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Matthew, glad you liked it.

A suits my ear for sure. More crisp, fat kick, beautiful snare and up in the mix. Both fantastic for an hour!

Yeah..... got to go with mix A.. Thanks Glenn,you make great content

Really Really Really cool video, more like this please!!!!!!

"A" just sounds more alive. Both the low and high frequencies are present and balanced against the guitars. "B" sounds like the drums are pushed to one side in favour of the guitar sound and everything sounds like their tone knobs have been turned down (does a Drummer have a tone knob ??!!) Same Drummer, drum kit, recording gear, studio etc etc. Just shows how much influence the individual setting it all up can influence the overall result.

Mix A sounds like it made it to some mastering. Both very well done.

Mix A is the one to beat here. Everything is so clear and forward. Nice work! I really want to send this video to my friend that said "these days, the room doesnt really matter anyway." *sigh*

Awesome! Such a fun idea for a video! I've only been watching your channel for a short time, so I'm not sure if you've done this before, but I think it's a novel concept worth doing at least once more. I think it would be cool to have each team roll a 6-sided die, and whatever number comes up, that's the number of mics you have to mic the kit. Or, maybe each team can mic a kit with, but can only use 57s. Also, mix B is my gut feeling pick, but not by that much.

One hour to record drums reminded me of some of my early serious recordings where each band had a block of 4 hours to track at least 2 songs. Most got to record 3 and some even 4 songs. Time limitations can really boost your productiveness.

@LEWITT-audio

2 жыл бұрын

That's very true, sometimes the time pressure helps to get in the zone and focus on your work 😁

I really enjoyed the different methods of "science" or "what sounds best?" attitude in the video.

Big difference - the Lewitt guys treated it like a science experiment with their laser pointers and Glenn approached it from a "where do these mics sound good, where does the drummer hit the snare" etc

@LEWITT-audio

2 жыл бұрын

Well, you better be exact when setting up room mics in stereo, otherwise you won't get a well-balanced stereo image 🤓 Hope you had fun with the video! 🤘

There is something about the bass drum EQ that I like, in B although I feel like it is more in post. Other than the China being a little washy, everything else sounds there. Really nice... Wonder how much of that is the room mic mixed in. Dunno. Wonder if we'll get a video recounting the options Glenn chose for the speedy mix. What a fun challenge.

Loving mix A!

Absolutely awesome sound! It kinda reminded me of BFMV scream, aim, fire. Inspiring too.

After a few listens I like mix a more, feels more open and natural. Mix b was my first choice on the first listen but it was darker after a few listens and I like to hear the cymbals more since there was a lot of it.

Mix A for the win! Mix A was also most definitely Glenn and Alex. Great work guys with such limited time! Mix B was more on the safe side, but the lewitt mics still let through the tamber of the toms beautifully. :) Awesome idea you guys!

Very cool video! It's hard to say what mix I'd put in the final mix... Like the kit sound (and reverbs) on mix A better, but the sound of the cymbals and hi-hat in B better... Both cool though

This was cool! Glenn you're a genius. I love Lewitt mics!!!!

@LEWITT-audio

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words 😊

@shestudiossheila7423

2 жыл бұрын

@@LEWITT-audio You're welcome! Lewitt Rocks!

Need more of these challenges. This is fucking awesome. Mix A for sure.

@LEWITT-audio

2 жыл бұрын

Glenn, do you see that? We really need to do that again sometime! 😁

I really like how clean mix b is. I dont think it necessarily fits the track but it sounds amazing

I would try to take the drums from mix B, and the cymbals from mix A, and see how that sounds together. Fun video!

I heard more going on with mix B, but for a Metal Mix it was Mix A all the way. That was great fun!

I definitely go with the drum sound on A, which sounds much livelier and the stereo imagery is better to me. I wasn't super fond of the kick sound and something about it in B I liked a touch better, though I'd probably like a more aggressive kick than either. Absolutely great video!

Gotta go with A. Not sure if that's the mic they put outside of the room that I'm hearing or if that's synthetic reverb but it's really nice.

Great video Glenn! I will go for Mix A being Glenn and Alex's. Kick drum is missing in mix B.

Glen you should do more of this, it’s awesome. Also Glen have you heard of the Fresh Air plug-in I wanted to know how it works in a metal mix.

Man, that Mix A is definitely a Glenn Fricker mix. Over-compressed cymbals and guitars, sponging in and out, way too many layers of harmonic enhancement... sounds a lot like "The Eagle Has Landed."

Mix A drums sound like they are cutting through the mix more. Fantastic fun in the studio

Fun watching these vids then seeing people you know appear :D Hey, Dani :D

Great video! I like A but B is good too, especially with the rush job everyone done. Obviously everyone would have wanted more time but this shows how much time a lot of people waste .

WOW Big drop switching from A to B. The team from SpectreSoundStudio did a Great Job . Only Pro can make that look Fun and EZ

I’m going with Mix A as the SMG mix. The cymbal volume sounds a lot more like Glen’s mixes that Mix B. Mix B is Lewitt’s mix; they kept the overhead volume low to try and ensure clarity of the close mics, but for the genre, the overheads sound a bit soft (to my ear).

There's more high end in A, I like that one over the other. But I couldn't have done either of them in a day, let alone an hour!! Well done guys, loved this episode!

@LEWITT-audio

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear that you enjoyed this episode! Have you already watched part 2? What do you think about it? 😊

That's some serious business there. Great work both of you for setting that shit up so quickly. I thought A sounded very full and dynamic. B was a bit rough sounding like there was only 2 minutes left for editing.

I like the part at 1:54 where the Lewitt guys are putting up a foam tunnel in front of the Kick drum. I must assume they have never seen your video on stop cupping the Mic LoL!!!!

Glenn nailed the mix. No replacement for experience (I'm working on that)

waaaait a minute, GLEN F knows what hes doing?! hahaha just kidding, love the channel man! We already know you kick ass in the studio great vid!

There are things I like about each mix. Mix B kick sounds more genre appropriate. Mix A has more high end, cymbals up. They're both a bit dark on the snare.

Fun video! A is my preference. A feels much more present, though still a bit mushy in the lower-midrange. B has nice separation in the overheads - maybe to a fault, but lacks punch in both the snare and kick. Cymbals don't cut enough in either mix, and I would have put the drums more forward overall in the mix for this demo.

Strong preference for Mix A. Didn't listen on headphones, had some Neumann KH120 monitors in front of me instead, haha. Kick and snare punched through well, whereas they felt a bit buried in the other one. Mix B was less crispy and felt less defined overall, but an aggressive mastering chain might help it to sound as loud as the song feels like it wants to be. I err on the side of drums over guitars in my mix level preference though, so as always, YMMV!

They both turned out really good yet very different! Great work by all! Mixing drums is super challenging and to add an hour limit to it?!? Very impressive! Mix A - Glen's, felt a little more pushed and mixed more to Metal. Awesome work! Mix B - Lewitt, seemed to be mixed less and captured the drums more naturally giving it an overall more organic feel, if it was a drum instrumental mix I would love to hear Lewitt mix for that!

I'd like the symbols of MIX A thrown onto the drums of MIX B :) The rolls went from ear to ear!

This was awesome 👌

Glenn is Mix A. Snappy snare gave you away. Good job guys. Love my Lewitt mics.

Gear used: Sennheiser HD800S/RME ADI-2 P FS R -Internet Opinion Only- Adjusted for loudness difference, I preferred Mix B. "A" stylistically might be a better overall song fit. For me Mix A had some unpleasant stuff occurring with the upper bass/low mid transients along with the overly present cymbals. Both have something slightly odd going on with the cymbal attack & release in parts of the mix. Enjoyed the panning of the toms more in Mix B. Anyway, time constraints; nice shootout.

In Downtown Detroit at work watching this. All I gotta say is MIX A and a good old fashioned Rick Flair "Woo!"

Mix A gotta be Glenn's. Awesome video btw!

i enjoy both for different reasons. the kick in mix B is more punchy and has more weight. mix A's snare is perfect though. more cymbal definition in mix A though. mix A feels like a finished product though, but if we took the kick sound from mix B and put it into mix A it would be *chef kiss*

Mix A has a brightness that reminds you of Glenn almost immediately. It was also apparent Mix A had a regular kick drum while Mix B had that coffin sound in the bass, which I kinda liked even tho they called it a fail

Mix A is absolutely Gelnn's mix because the snare sounds like the intro from his videos that signature crack im familiar with and that reverb on the snare.

A is definitely Glenn, but I really enjoyed the stereo imaging and the smoothness of the cymbals of the mix B

I prefer Mix A, despite what appears to be some phase issues with the overheads. It just had more punch, and the snare sounds amazing. I'm gonna take a wild guess that mix A is Glenn's.

@DonnyV77

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely phase issues happening

Mix A is Glenn’s mix. Glenn always goes drummer perspective so the rack tom is on the left side and the floor tom is on the right.

Mix A...amazing drum tone...heavy, powerful, and full of clarity.

Got a set of matched Lewitts mostly based on what I've seen Spectre demo/discuss - I only use one but if it dies I know I don't have to touch a knob and just swap em out to get right back to where I was. Punches above its price point in that I've heard more expensive mics sound worse; disclaimer - not clear on all my mics yet, but tryna learn. I'll have to as I've been experimenting with ruggedized tube/strip mic designs and at some point I'll have to learn what it's actually supposed to output instead of just making the thing work.

Mix A! By far the best drum mix. I believe this one is Glenn's mix. If so, it just show how capable Glenn is. Master of his craft!

love the the team A mix, snare sounded a little dead, but other than that, it sounded sick

Mix b was the best in my opinion the symbols could have been a bit louder, but mix a was definitely raw sounding and the drums were a bit loud. Though both were better than I could do in that time frame so kudos to both.

I listened to this on my 5.1 system and Mix 1 made me feel like I was center stage. A bit unbalanced but a very live feel. I felt the kick needed tweaking, but overall the best IMHO. Mix 2 was less sonically pleasing and had less use of stereo, but had a better kick sound and felt polished and with some more time might've outshone Mix 1 with some extra tweaking.

Gotta go with A, sounded more alive to me. Either way, really cool vid, loved this!

I definitely prefer A overall. They weren't afraid to hit the drums with a little more compression, and they EQ'd the shells for a good top end attack. I actually think the way the overheads were EQ'd on mix B sounded a bit more natural, but the overall level of them could've been brought up in that mix. Very cool video! Always interesting to see more-or-less direct comparisons in how different people approach a mix.

I prefer Mix A because it’s brighter and more crisp. The guitar sounds solid. Mix B seems muffled and far. I’m pretty sure both team are great. An hour challenge for all this, is absolutely crazy (and fun to watch). Looking forward for part 2 😁😈🤘

A for sure, it’s just a little bit on the higher freqs on the EQ, sounds a bit “hissy” but is overall more present and in my face. B sounds a bit dull and muted.

Mix A is Team Specter Sound. It has more top end sparkle on the overheads and a livelier kick drum. On mix B you can hear the dampening of the kick by their "foam tunnel".

mix A seems alot clearer comparatively altho both sound killer thanks guys

Do more of this please 😎😎😎

To my ears, there is a pretty huge volume difference between mix A and B, with A being the loudest. It makes it a little more difficult to not fall for the "loud is better" thing, but having jumped back and forth while adjusting the volume I'd still say mix A sounds bigger and more hard hitting. That being said, both mixes done in an hour is pretty incredible.

I went back and forth a few times listening with my Kali LP6s and my Sennheiser HD 280 headphones. Besides the drums having different mixes, I found the overall mixes were different. I thought that Mix A's kick needed a bit more snap but Mix B's had too much. Mix A had louder cymbals and and overall better sound although I did like the snappy crack of Mix G's snare. I think mix A was Glenn's and also the winner!

I prefer Mix A. The drums just pop out of the mix a bit more and that snare tone is amazing. Really cuts through the band with the backbeat. Love it.

SUPER refreshing to see glenn hyped hahaha

Mix A is louder and more compressed(i think), and i find the snare a few dbs too loud for my taste. Mix B is the opposite, and as others noted, a bit too safe. I would prefer something in between of the 2. That beeing said, i lean more towards mix A because it conveys more excitement.Regardless, that is a top video! Looking forward to the next one!🤘

In short, I prefer Mix A. Great job on both teams' parts, cuz doing all that in an hour is amazing! 🤘🏻In more detail: without reading any comments, and after listening a few times, adjusting for volume level (mix A was overall louder than mix B, but one click of my keyboard volume matched them quite well), I lean towards mix A as "better" for my ears. The cymbals are more present and swirl around my head, and the snare and kick are clearer. I like the sound of the snare in mix B a little more, though.

Mix A sounds killer!!

A mix the drums are very front and center and sound loud and filling. Mix B the guitars where more out front, but the Drums we were looking for were EQed way down and you could not make out the individual drum sounds as well as you could in A.