If the rule was added after the beginning of the year, and not posted at the track or some notification was not issued. You got played. Track has the responsibility of informing the drivers of any changes to the rule book

Gary absolutely deserved that points championship all year he worked his ass off this year. He is the most humble and the nicest guy you’ll ever meet absolutely got cheated. We all know who the real champ is man let the water roll down off your back and off to next week

Congrats Gary on the championship and congrats Tim on the win. Great job on the video haillie. There is tracks all over this country hurting for car counts and this sort of thing contributes to some of it. Stand your ground they'll come crawling back

Gary, you had one heck of a year! Whether you get the 6' tall dust collector or not, they cannot take away your accomplishments on the year.

The racers, crew, and families that support them, are the true backbone of any racetrack. Without the backbone you are spineless. This is truly a spineless racetrack, the doesn't deserve true racers to support them.

@goldhunter9641

10 ай бұрын

Absolutely correct,, a racetrack cannot stand up and operate the correct way without a backbone and I've just started following Gary's racing and I have followed Tim's Racing for a very long time but this is a definite chickenshit move, that so many tracks across America, will do on their very own racers and it generally turns around and bites the racetrack in it's own ass..

@itisi2656

10 ай бұрын

They don't care about drivers or fans. They don't care or they would have stopped this "SERIOUS" safety issue in the spring when this rule took affect. The fans should look at that very close and question if their safety in other areas is being overlooked. Those stands look sketchy and weeds holding up the fences. (Should be fine)

This is why tracks close. Ya reap what ya sow. That was wrong. Congrats Gary & Tim.

Sad to see, and what, 4 cars were disqualified? Obviously that rule was silently put into place. I see another track go by the wayside in their future..

Did I hear someone say, the EPA may be in contact with them to check the dirt at that track, and that the IRS was going to go and check their books to make sure they have claimed all the "Cash" they have taken in over the years?

What is wrong with these places?? It`s almost like they don't want any good A-mods next year!! smh..... Great job all year Gary and family, and congrats on the championship!!!

Wow! I'm not sure if this is your local track or not, but either way that's about as low down as ours over here in NW Oklahoma!

I saw on mylaps or whatever it is the final results and all the cars that got DQed. But on the website Gross is still the final points leader. So I'm still hoping these promotors come to their senses. Really feels like a set-up, last points race of the year and thats why they decide to call out a safety issue? Here in the Northeast if a new safety issue is applied you are notified by the track, by facebook, by multiple other outlets. You are usually given a week or two, and the officials well inspect "whatever" to make sure it was done properly and too the new rule. It would be hello to pay if a promotor tried doing something like this up here. We love our lawyers!!!! lol

@rogerparliman1892

10 ай бұрын

I am from the northeast and you are 100% correct.

@bobobaggins2034

10 ай бұрын

Yuppp.. where I raced they would also tell whatever division has the new rule change to stay after the drivers meeting is done to let everyone know.

This is absolutely sad and dishearting ... to lose 3 awesome races in a week to not wanting to go to tracks cause of terrible management and cheating.. This is why tracks die... keep it up guys ypu tim and chase ❤❤

Congratulations Tim on winning feature and Gary on track championship they might have screwed yall outta money and points but karma will get them in long run

🏁🏁Congratulations Gary!!! You won.. 🏁🏁that was a cowards move by Danny, he probably had it all planed out to protest last race. In order to win Hope he gets a paper cut on the check.

I heard what happened. What a disgrace. Been planning on coming to track since moving back but not now. Congratulations on Your Championship.

I will say y’all are a power family! Wicked racers, good people and good sportsmanship! Between Gross Family Racing, The Old #7 Garage and Chase Holland Racing!! Y’all are my favorite! Much love and respect from New Mexico! PS-it would be cool to see y’all out at Vado Speedway in Vado, New Mexico this next year for the Wild West Shootout! Lol anyway God bless and keep Him as your foundation!

Exactly why there should be pre-race tech where the track looks to make sure everything is good. Our home track 411 puts everyone through pre-race tech. Bad deal for y’all

@amandagross9631

10 ай бұрын

Amén!

Never enforced or teched the entire season and then this ? No, they had this in their back pocket. Of course they’ll use the excuse you weren’t the only one disqualified but we all know that’s a convenient excuse for them. Its not an illegal engine just a minor safety issue. I can’t imagine being proud of calling myself a track champion by winning it this way. Congratulations on your accomplishment and good luck in the future.

That is so sad. I want to know why Gary, Tim and others hadn't been protested and disqualified earlier in the year or given some kind warning or notice before this race. I know how hard you work to race. Then they do this to you. I don't blame you for not going back as long as the track has this owner!

Congratulations on the Championship Gary! That’s just wrong what the track did to y’all!!! People you think are your friends are usually the first to turn on you. I’m glad you and Tim have decided to no longer race there as long as they are the owners! Hopefully several more drivers will step up and do the same thing so it truly hurts them in a bad way!!!!

Our local dirt track closed last year in south Ga. Next year it will be a pecan orchard for the same reasons. The management ran everyone off favor picking a few.

Heres my opinion on the "Track owners". You either run a track or race a car at that track but not both. Its a conflict of interest. You cant fairly race at your track without some kinda bullshit in your favor. Its not right. Now let me guess the track owner or his son ended up with the championship? If so total bullshit. You guys have made a circus out of your little track.

Way to go I am from Tennessee there was a track her that tried that almost had to shut down because of it you can’t support local track if they cheat good job on the win from a fan

you are the second track racer that i have heard this happen to this just sucks that they bring in rules half way in the season and dont tell anyone or post it at the track

Gary, it was shitty, i have been racing A-Mods division help the C-4 since 2007 and never seen a shock tether. Its prolly need but it should never change mid-season without being addressed. You can always go to I-55 or poplar bluff. Yea its a little bit of a drive but hopefully they treat you better. You are the nicest family and i know it was there u would tell RGR to put it on the car. God Bless Sir, again Resinger has to live with it

Great job this year Gary and Tim!! 👍

I've just started following your a channel on here and I have been a follower of Tim's channel for a really long time and I live in southern WV but I'll be sure to let people know here around my area, how your guys local track has treated you all because we have racers from around my way that like to go travel to different states and race but this'll probably be a track they don't want to race at for a Weekend, after seeing the way they have done you

Keep your heads up Gross family it happens everywhere! We had a family track owner down here in the south and his son/grandson could literally wreck you and no penalty would be thrown to him. He won many of track championships during the time of their ownerships. Now track is in different hands and they aren’t racing anymore🤔🤔

Congratulations on the points championship

Track here is doing the exact same thing. Promoter has a son running and his rules are a thing goes others by his book.

I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND THEY TECT FOUR CARS NO ONE HAD THE TETHERS THIS RULE WAS PUT IN AND NO NOTICE WAS GIVEN TO ANY OWNERS WHO WON THE RACE AND DID THEY HAVE TETHERS THIS IS A TOTAL DISRESPECT FOR YOU GUYS ,TIM AND ANYONE WHO DIDN'T GET THE HEADS UP AND IF THERE ARE ANY CARS WITH THE EQUIPMENT SOME THING STINKS GOOD DECISIONS NOT TO GO BACK THIS IS WHY TRACKS GO OUT BUSINESS THIS JUST SUCKS FOR YOU GUYS I WOULD TELL EVERY ONE AND YOU DON'T WANT TO GET CRAZY BUT I WOULD POST EVERYTHING ON INTERNET HAVING A COLD ONE FOR THE TRACK CHAMPION 🏆 AND THE OLD NUMBER 7 HATE THAT THIS HAPPEN TO YOU GUYS YOU ARE BOTH CHAMPIONS GOOD LUCK AND HELLO I+55 SPEEDWAY GOOD LUCK STEVE AND PAM LONG TIME FANS 🏁🏁👍🏁

One tiny piece of good from this. I found your channel and subscribed. Looking forward to more racing between you and TIme (at other tracks).

@grossfamilyracing

10 ай бұрын

Thank you, we appreciate it!!!

why the final race? that alone makes it stink. he should have called you out early in the season. they had a plan. SMH

I would think post race tech is for performance advantages and pre race inspection would cover safety side.

Looks like they would have did a better job of informing people of the rule changes and had a couple weeks grace period to where the drivers could get their cars legal. Then, after the month mark they should have teched everyone. Doing it this way at the end of the season is kinda screwy to me.

Congrats Gary. You did win. You got to get Tim to put up his video.👍🍻

Don't blame any of you for not going back there to race this is what helps get tracks closed doing your racers wrong he needs to remember what he done to everyone when he starts losing money

So, if I heard Gary correctly, this addition to the rulebook occurred in April? I'm pretty sure one of the two of you has been through post race tech since then! At least you didn't get thrown out for trying to run over the track owner with the 4wheeler like Chavus.....

I posted my opinion on the track page and Danny Resingers page in regards to how they propose to handle the points controversy: By cancelling the points for 9/9/2023 racers are not getting the spot they deserve in the points standings and the pay out they deserve. So the track is saving money. To make things as right as you possibly can give all the racers the payout they deserve and the position they deserve in the point standings as of 9/9/2023. Also the Resingers should be removed from the points standing as if they never raced this season. That would move some racers up 1 or 2 spots in the standings and they should get paid for those positions accordingly. I noticed that you did not apologize to your sponsors. I also noticed on the track page the track has about 35 sponsors listed. Some are very notable business names that may not want their names associated with under handed management. Hopefully if the track makes everyone as whole as possible the track will survive. Again by doing what is being suggested the track is saving money by not giving racers what they deserve, adding insult to energy. Waiting to see how it goes. It is a very sad situation.

That’s exactly why the small family owned tracks are closing. And it’s just not the dirt tracks. The smaller drag racing tracks are doing the same thing. The Hollands got treated the same way, which I know you know. and they said they’ll never be back to that track where they were at.

@JeffWeselyan

10 ай бұрын

Having family business treat u like outsider and crap so much favoriteisim

Never spend a dime at that track! Owners are obvious shysters!

If they did amend the rules so everyone knows its call fraud especially when there's money involved

why i got out of dirt racing man local track favs an fights over 300$

Gary is the Champion in my eyes, great win for Tim. That track is a joke. Might have lost a few drivers and fans. sad

If you find your self in N.W. Missouri on a Saturday night, drop in on I-35 Speedway in Winston. They run their program on the up and up. I'm not affiliated with the track other than my nephew runs an E-Mod there. It's a shame you guys got the shaft. Especially since you've obviously supported that track for quite a while. Good luck and be safe out there!

If it was a safety issue why wasn’t it found before the race when they tech the cars. And how many races have been won that they didn’t disqualify you all.

@grossfamilyracing

10 ай бұрын

3 races won by Dad, and some by Tim..

thats the reason tracks loose fans and cars you cnat choose favorites thats nonsense wait to the last points race and then pull stunt like this especially when it was the owners son that protested it that should have been teched weeks ago or at least been given a warning about it not sneek it into the rues after the season started thats shady sorry bout the robbery in our eyes Mr.Gross you are the points champion nd Tim won that race i bet the could of teched every car there and the owners son would have been the only one with a tether sucks for them though bet this will put a hurtin on this track especially as many followers you and Tim have us youtube fans are not pleased by this tracks actions

I would never go back to this track!

Seems to me that if you implement a rule after the beginning of the season, the track should have a "complimentary" tech of all cars affected. Doing so would ensure all cars were in compliance and all teams understood the new rule. That way everyone is on the same page and the track is promoting a good track-racer relationship. I had that happen when the track I raced at went to a different system to mount fuel cells. I understand it's not the tracks responsibility to make sure you understand the rules , but this is pure chicken shit. I hope you have continued success at the track/tracks you choose to race. They are the losers in this situation.

That just bs they let the rules slide till his championship mattered. You bust your ass to make all there races to just be shit on. Your a great family and to good for that bs. Great job Champ.

Great race every one knows your the champ they will get what they deserve specially if no one shows up there anymore

Whats the name of the track? Tag kenny Wallace aout this

Don't tear em down yet. Come to the spooktacular in park city and have some candy with friends. It's officially a USMTS event again. Big money and chocolate were all winners in this event. Congratulations on a great season!!!

Wow what a bunch of sh**!! Congratulations Gary! Iv been saying I’d like to come up there and race with y’all there but I can take that track off the bucket list for sure!

Pretty chickenshit that they didn't enforce it all year till now IMHO. Damn Gary, you didn't even get a kiss on the back of your neck, or Vaseline did ya? On a more positive note. I think you need more camber gain in your front end, not static but gain. Anyhow Congrats on the year y'all have had there. Y'all take care.

Tim has won alot there . They didnt tell him about the new rule? What a joke of a track. Anyway congrats on the championship and congrats to Tim winning the feature.

That sounds like a bunch of B/S all the wins y'all got between ya and noone said a word I-55 will gladly except ya for sure

I think we will see Carl Edwards back in a race car before too long I'm pretty sure he will be back in a race car he was one of the best Nascar drivers out there and he needs to get back in seat

@JeffWeselyan

10 ай бұрын

What Carl edwards have do with this here lol

I'm here to tell you guys tell Tim also that if you ever want to race at a fair track I know it's in east tn but it's 411 speedway go see mitch mcarter he is the owner fair honest always pays and he has a couple big races for mods a year

What track was it? Il be Shure not to go there

@michaelburns566

10 ай бұрын

St Francis County Speedway

Why was it never caught in tech after a race all year?

@grossfamilyracing

10 ай бұрын

It was never teched, or mentioned to any driver.

@tanker335

10 ай бұрын

You'd think a rule concerning safety would have came up in a drivers meeting when they imposed it. Something stinks here for sure.

@itisi2656

10 ай бұрын

They never teched before and never teched after the race. They never cared about safety or you would not have started the heat races until you got it fixed. This tells us all we need to know about how much that track cares about car/drivers and how willing it is to let such a "SERIOUS" safety issue risk the health of all those who showed up to support their event. At least they refunded the $40 contest fee.

I have no idea what "blowed out my ass like a tater biscuit" means, but it's funny as hell. You have a new subscriber.

@grossfamilyracing

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for subscribing!

The song "You've lost that lo❤in feel'n" probably was appropriate for what happened after the feature.

Congrats on the championship that’s some bs. Similar thing happened to me in my super stock days. Won every race that year at this track and on the last race said I was illegal because I had a ford front clip but raced all year after they said it was legal a drivers voted on it. Somebody protested me and I was dq for the championship race but was paid for the track championship. Found out it was another tracks son who did it because I would go to their track for money races and beat the sin all the time for the wins. Karma is that couple weeks later his track had their championship paying 10k and I beat the shit out of all of them but funny thing is they allowed ford clips. Lost all respect for him and his dad and never went back to their track and my track made it a point to allow ford clips after what happened to me. Big in my cases my local track owner made good on my part.

That's shitty the way they did that Gary had the points. Guess the track people feeling there pockets somehow and I know chase Holland probably want there either his ole lady want allow it. Go Gary and ole Nash great year clay from mobile Alabama

@furywanabemonky05

10 ай бұрын

S so the promotors kid or grandkid could be track champ i saw

@rickyrowland9744

10 ай бұрын

I wasn't there so I can't say for sure but our track tells us in pre tech about new rules. Seems like alot of people knew about this and it's not the tracks responsibility to read you the rule book it's yours. The tracks writes the rules and the racer is suppose to read and follow them. It al sounds HINCKY to me.

Springfield raceway mo try there we would love you there

@grossfamilyracing

10 ай бұрын

We have been there a few times and have come to the Turkey bowl the past few years!

@lolaslavens5640

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for commenting back seems like every driver I watch never acknowledges my comment thanks

Why if they added this new rule back in “APRIL” , it wasn’t brought up in a drivers meeting before racing began?

Gary that is some BS they did to you and I don’t blame you and Tim for not never going back.

As ive said on Tims video, this kinda bs happens everywhere, I quit motorsports due to a few lots of bs like this or similar. Ebough that i went from doing multiple forms from drag racing, "circuit", drift, local rally etc to only burnout and street drag racing (on the track but street registered vehicles) to nothing at all. Its disgusting behaviour some people will pull for a win, or to make sure YOU dont win. Edit: i was going to get into mud racing but numerous things came into play on that, main one was my team went from me being the main driver to sub, sure whatever, to not being a driver, to being the major financial contributor on a mechanic wage then being told im out for not contributing enough after the 7, yes 7 engines i gave them kept being traded for more stupid engines and them saying i contributed nothing, even excluding the 10 grand i gave over the entire time.

What was the organization that the track was running under or was it just their rules? If it was a organization or just track rules their should have been either waited till the next year, or instructed all the race tracks to inform all drivers of the new rule. If it was a organization’s that they were running under then did you have the option to appeal to them? If it was just track rules then can pretty well bet you last dollar it was a setup deal from the get go. And if it was just track rules them they were responsible for making sure all parties were aware of the new rule and all drivers should have been required to sing a paper saying they understood the new rule. So I agree with you to not go back. Best of luck to you both and all the others affected👍

Do they have pre race tech cause if they do every track I’ve ever been to IF it is a new rule they will tell you in tech about the rule if you don’t know. An IF it is a new rule then it’s the first thing they look for is the spring tether. BUT if somebody’s don’t say anything then they don’t have to pay whoever “cheated” so they say. During the year I never looked at the rule book to see if anything had been changed. Y’all didn’t do anything wrong. The tech we got was mainly safety related not mechanical. Helluva year fellas

Track owners pretty much suck. Piss poor run in general. He's going to say bye bye to a lot of money over this. I hope he goes bankrupt. Shouldn't be a problem since looks like only about 20 people in the stands. He better hope beer concessions were good.

@hhhmotorsports9550

10 ай бұрын

The track is owned by the fair boeard. Resinger just lease it to run as abusinesz

Yea id never go to tht track to race or watch....

I hope u told the owner of the track to shove it where the sun don’t shine 😂😂😂

If that track has a banquet at the end of the season that kid should be seated in the others bathroom right next to men that compete in women sports.

Sry Gary to hear this it's a bunch of BS we all no u are a champion 🏆🏆 sounds like are home track if u are good and honest racer they find a way to f--k with you sry again luv watching you and Tim race plus y'all are good peps

That will teach you to keep vlog on and rolling from now on ,,, right thanks BigAl California praise Jesus Christ grace amen 🙏

at least the track owners kid won the championship..................................can you imagine that kid telling others how he won the championship------this was planned---small change in the rule book and wait until the end to tech......................................................................

These little dirt tracks doing this stuff to the selves. Beat the drivers down and what do you have when these drivers find a better hobby that don't include these tracks making money!?

Congratulations you and Tim definitely got skewed there must be something go cra y this season Hickory Motor Speedway has done similar antics changing rule books and telling g drivers they should know well its bullshit the amount money you spend for sport we'll love not just what it costs to get car on a track get to the track licenses family's your people that help you in the pits anyway its a pleasure to watch your anyone families maybe you can get more drivers and crew's and boycott them and hit them in there pockets see how they like sorry needed to vent and I'm only a fan living in beautiful New Hampshire

Not trying to start anything but I’m really positive that spring tethers are in the ump rules. I helped a good friend on his car and I remember complaining about it being made a rule but we did it anyway

@grossfamilyracing

10 ай бұрын

They are, however it is not something UMP checks. The issue with this rule is they didn’t let anyone know they added it after the season had started. They admitted to putting them on their car two weeks ago.

@amandagross9631

10 ай бұрын

You are correct it is in the ump rules but WAS NOT IN SFCR Rules. They added it and did not notify anyone that there was rule change. The track owner and his son did not have them in their cars until the last 2 weeks. They admitted it in front of everyone last night. This was a witch hunt.

@mikessmalllawncare8940

10 ай бұрын

I was just saying that in case you guys were going to run any ump tracks the rest of the year. I should have been more specific when I made my comment. I wasn’t trying to be a smart a$$ or make you guys mad. I really enjoy yours and Tim’s videos.

@rickyrowland9744

10 ай бұрын

It is a UMP rule that's why I don't understand why they weren't running them already. I've seen springs come out and they could kill someone they have so much force.

you give a warning on the safety issues the first time, then DQ 2nd time, pretty simple

Tim and Gary! I would contact a lawyer and see what the chances are taking this to court. (all involved) This ain't about the money or money period. This is about PRINCIPAL alone! You have cameras for proof there was no written protest for one, there are other drivers involved as well. If they are not stopped somehow, they the owners will do it to someone else. Whoever the guy is that protested and the owners alike are cowards straight up! I think I heard it had more to do with more of (owners) the son more than the dad. Either way. Its not an excuse. If this is true then the elder should have spoke up. Tim I would rather see your raw emotion about racing and an incident such as this rather than you sugar coat it. I did not lose any respect for you and Gary. I gained that much more respect for the both you! Even if you all's buttholes have been blowed out by tater biscuits. LOL! Love ya guys! Keep on keeping it real. Thanks!

Im confused on what the tethers do in the first place. Someone could make the argument if its in the rule books then its the rule. If race teams are never notified of the change to the rulebook then y change it. By the way it sounds in the first place is something that helps with the set up at least from the brief research that I have done. It kinda sounds silly to dsq someone for that. Edit: Your telling me the son that raced is the one dqing everyone? at 20:32

@marvinturnmire7406

10 ай бұрын

The tethers wrap around the rear coil springs and tie them to the car so in the event of a crash the springs can't fly out and hit other drivers or fans. Nascar runs them, but I've never heard of weekly short tracks requiring them. I'm not against it, you can never be to safe in and around racecars, but not notifying the teams is bs.

I would rather be the one that got cheated rather than claiming a hollow victory daddy bought for me. That man is raising his son to be a failure that won't do anything on his own, it's sad really.

A lot of good men being cheated lately. Keep your heads up. Justice is coming and Jesus is his name

St. Francois and Callaway will DQ whoever to get their locals to win

Sounds like racing nothing but politics, it’s bad in wissota country too it’s bad for are sport period

Was the person that won the track championship after your dad was disqualified friends or family with the track owners?

@MrCorvette32

10 ай бұрын

Tim Nash said the owners son won the title after Gary Gross was disqualified.

@kingsalmon5905

10 ай бұрын

@@MrCorvette32 Now that makes it even worse. Shady BS!

@beowulf3303

10 ай бұрын

That's real BS!! How could any self respecting person feel good about being given a championship like that!! Absolutely pathetic!!

So Gary your wife is Tim’s wife sister?? I thought you was Tim’s wife sister!! Lol

@amandagross9631

10 ай бұрын

Yes Kim and I are sisters 🫶🏻

well i wont be going to that track ever. think all the drivers should protest that track and fans as well its total bull. its for safty

Grandstand is empty.....

@hoochgiese4735

10 ай бұрын

That's proof the promoter is awful at his job! He takes lessons from Big Guy Joe evidently!

If was me has ton money I would put owner out for business and suspension including for failure to notify the the racers and track officials

@hoochgiese4735

10 ай бұрын

Put the trans fluid down 👎

Race track politics.💯.

I'm surprised the county doesn't make them take the county name off the track. I know I would. I wouldn't want to be in any way associated with these lame promoters. Just bad people.

Wow talk about some BS. We dealt with this garbage also. At some tracks, yours last name is all that matters.

This was all BS period!!!!

If you wasn't legal by the rulebook, then you are illegal then & NO exceptions... That's right, act like a bunched of spoiled baby's & don't go back next week, NO one will really miss you!!!

@grossfamilyracing

10 ай бұрын

That’s funny, find your way off of our page. You clearly didn’t listen to the story. NOT ONE PERSON was notified about the SAFETY “RULE” That was added mid year. Not one person. It was NEVER teched, and never looked for. It was a decision after the feature, and not an official protest/disqualification done by the track owners son so that he could get the points championship.

@TonyWilhoit

10 ай бұрын

You must have never done any racing before and you must be deaf and didn’t hear that it was added to the rule book after the season started and no one was notified of the change and if it’s was a safety issue why wasn’t it caught before the race when the cars were checked. If you’ve watched either of these guys videos much you would have seen that they have won plenty of races here since this supposed rule change why wasn’t they protested then.

@jasonwirth1844

10 ай бұрын

So the 15 and 151 where only legal for 2 weeks? Why did they wait until the end of the year to install.spring tethers? Then protest the winners? Straight up Bullshit!

You did great on your video and dad kicked azz